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Donald Trump's regime and his MAGA base are imploding as Donald Trump tries to cover up his dark and disgusting past. The COVID up gets worse and it is backfiring in Donald Trump's face. We'll break it all down. Of course, Donald Trump needs distraction. So he goes back to his old tricks and he says Rosie o' Donnell should not be a United States citizen. Just a strange reference making Rosie O' Donne references. By the way, in 2025 she's living her life in like Ireland right now. Like, just leave her alone. I'm taking away her citizenship. Donald, we're not falling for those distractions. And while America is still recovering from a massive Catastrophic weather event that took place in Texas, where the death toll continues to rise. I guess the Trump regime is just like, all right, we're moving on now. Donald Trump and Kristi Noem were out, what, just partying at the FIFA Club World cup at Medlife Stadium in New Jersey while they were getting booed at that stadium. And then Donald Trump, like, went to the trophy ceremony where Chelsea Football Club won. And then Donald Trump, like, he just wanted to be there in the center when the team was celebrating. They're like, can we, like, have this guy, like, move? Like, why is he even there? And so the White House posted their propaganda photo with Donald Trump right there in the center. And then Chelsea had to publish their own photo once Donald Trump was pushed in the back again. It's just so embarrassing. He just loves stealing the valor and accomplishments of others couldn't handle. People were booing him. No one wants him there at that football or soccer match in New Jersey or, frankly, anywhere. And then today, earlier, Donald Trump held a faith luncheon and just started, like, cursing during it, making jokes about Vladimir Putin bombing hospitals and killing children in Ukraine. And everybody at this faith lunch thought it was, like, absolutely hilarious. And then earlier, Donald Trump met with the Secretary General of NATO, and Donald Trump made his big announcement how tough he's going to get. So he went from imposing secondary sanctions against Russia in maybe two weeks. Right? That's what he said in April. And today it was 50 days. I'm going to give Putin this 50 days. And by the way, if you want to know why he said 50 days, because it was previously reported that during Donald Trump's prior call with Putin, Putin said he needed 60 days in order to conquer additional territory based on the summer offensive Russia is launching. So Donald Trump thinking he's a tough guy, because that's how he does deals. He goes, Putin wanted 60 days. I'm going to give you 50 days to do it. That's where the 50 days comes from. We'll talk about that and more here on the Midas Touch podcast. I'm Ben Meisel is joined by my brothers, Brett and Jordyn.
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Brett Meiselas
Good to be here, everybody. Good to be here, Ben. Good to be here, Jordy. Good to be here, Midas mighty. Damn. We have a lot to speak about. There is a whole lot going on. And, man, the whole MAGA movement right now just seems buried under the weight of the Epstein Trump scandal. They can escape it. They could only deflect. Their supporters aren't even buying it. But right now, you are really seeing who the propagandists are. And I know we've all known who the Trump MAGA propagandists are, the people like Charlie Kirk and the like, but seeing them right now have to bend over and just twist themselves into pretzels to defend this whole situation that they know is bad. They know it's very bad. And they know Donald Trump is all over those files and is so implicated in everything. And that Donald Trump had such a close relationship with Epstein and now that it's all coming out yet again, and now that from Donald Trump's own mouth, he is the one saying, think about something else, talk about something else. Please don't talk about the Epstein files. Now they are trying to play defense for him and it's just really pathetic. Like, how do you trust anything any of these people say? Like I if somehow you are a MAGA person and you've been watching Charlie Kirk and somehow the algorithm has fed you this episode and you are watching this now and you're like, I'll check this out. How do you possibly trust a single word out of these people's mouths now that you know that they are just regurgitating regime propaganda? It is pathetic. We are going to expose it, we're going to break it down and discuss all the rest of the news on this episode of the Midas Touch podcast. Jordi, what's the latest?
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Jordyn Meiselas
I'm excited for today's show. The short answer, Brett, is you can't trust them. You never could trust them. But if again, you are part of the MAGA circle, right, and you're watching this episode and you see Charlie Kirk saying what he's saying, I mean, you're the mark. I'm sorry, you're. You are the mark. There's no way you could take anything that's coming out of the administration or these right wing MAGA talking heads seriously, whatsoever. They were already clowns, Ben. Sorry, no offense to clowns, but they have further clowned themselves with all of this. I mean, just so delegated, legitimized, whatever legitimacy, not that they had any again, but whatever legitimacy they may have had, poof.
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Ben Meiselas
Gone. Really?
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Jordyn Meiselas
Benjamin?
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Ben Meiselas
Well, the start up with this, though, the pressure campaign for me to get a haircut was indeed successful. I read your comments and Brett read all of your emails.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Sometimes bullying works.
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Ben Meiselas
The consensus was very clear that I needed the haircut. I liked my Albert Einstein phase. I was enjoying what I was doing. Apparently the audience did it. Your suggestions worked. I was pressured, let me tell you.
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Brett Meiselas
Oftentimes, like when you, you Know, working with people who are on camera, they tell you, like, don't send the people the bad comments. You know, you want to make feel good. Right. I didn't get that memo, apparently, because I would send Ben every negative comment about his hair to pressure him into cutting his hair. And I think, you know, the pressure worked, the bully campaign worked. And Ben, you look really good. You don't look great a crazy mad scientist anymore, and you look respectable.
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Ben Meiselas
You know, there you have it. I'm TV. I'm TV ready right now, right? You're YouTube ready, YouTube ready. Right. A lot of people watch YouTube's on their TV though, now as well. All right, let's start off with what the MAGA influencers are saying. The same people who were using the Epstein list and the Epstein files to weaponize against their political enemies for years and years and years and grifting off of the Epstein list and all of the shows about Epstein that they were doing. Charlie Kirk, one of the biggest purveyors of this. Let's show you what he's been saying recently. Let's play this clip. Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein.
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Brett Meiselas
For the time being. I'm going to trust my friends, the administration, I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it.
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Ben Meiselas
Balls in their hands.
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Brett Meiselas
I've said plenty this last weekend. So if you guys want to see my commentary on it, that's fine.
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Ben Meiselas
You know, one of the interesting things to see, though, was when Benny Johnson was getting Donald Trump's post from this weekend, like, live as he was on air, and he had to read it while he was live because you actually got his, like, authentic response before.
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Brett Meiselas
Before the talking points came in, right? This is before you get the memo.
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Ben Meiselas
The talking points come in. So we know at the end of last week, the regime says, there is no Epstein list. It never existed. There's no Epstein files, and we're just shutting this down. Good luck, everybody. That's what they said then over the weekend. Donald Trump says, no, they do exist, but they were created by Obama, Clinton and Comey in order to harm Trump and the Republicans. So they exist, but it is a hoax. Donald Trump said, like, Russia, Russia, Russia. He goes, the Epstein list is a hook which also goes to tell you that Russia, Russia, Russia was not a hoax. And you don't even have to go down a rabbit hole for Russia. Donald Trump, like, talks about how much he loves Vladimir Putin. Like, almost always. Like, it's pretty much in plain view. But anyway, let's show everybody what Benny Johnson, big MAGA influencer, what he had to say when he didn't have his talking points. Let's play.
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Brett Meiselas
Okay, so President Trump has acknowledged that the Epstein files exist here. President Trump has acknowledged that the files were written and that there is something there. He says that they were written, however by his enemies and therefore will not be released.
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Ben Meiselas
Whoa, what?
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Brett Meiselas
That's new in this entire zeitgeist. This is something that is wildly interesting.
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Ben Meiselas
And then he goes all in on.
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Brett Meiselas
Supporting Cash Patel and Pam Bondi. No mention of Dan Bongino, where all of this again would sort of transpire as well.
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Ben Meiselas
Well, whoa, okay, well that's new, right?
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Brett Meiselas
Donald Trump has written, written this post. You know, he's a lot less impressive, I gotta say, off the cuff.
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Jordyn Meiselas
You see the panic kind of really setting into as he's reading it because he's just not really sure what to.
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Brett Meiselas
Say because this whole thing is blown up in their face. And you know, it's, it's what all these people are saying right now, right? Everyone's kind of saying the same thing. Like it's, it's either two things. Either they lied about these files entirely or they're engaged in a cover up to protect Donald Trump and a band of elites who were engaged in these crimes with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. It's like one of those two things or both I guess. And, and I think it little bit of both. But these people like Benny Johnson, like Charlie Kirk, they were like the main purveyors of this. If you look at Charlie Kirk's tweets from not that long ago, he literally said vote Trump to release the list. That's an exact tweet from Charlie Kirk. And now you have the same people who are the anti government people who are the don't tread on me folks. You have them going, I just gotta trust my friends in the government on this. They told me, you know what they told me what they told me and it doesn't exist, I guess. And so nothing to, nothing to talk about here, I guess. So we're just gonna move on now. Let's talk about Joe B. And you're like, give me a break. This was your biggest thing. This was your biggest thing. And now we are learning all of this and you don't care anymore.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Like seriously, the spin, the spin that they've been doing to all of them collectively. Once they did get the talking points, we have to start talking about Biden's auto pen. I'm sorry, that does not have the same bite. That is absolutely nowhere close. And Charlie Kirk, we have to trust my friends in the government. That's going to really sit well with your audience, buddy. You really know who you're speaking to there.
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Ben Meiselas
Goodness. So naturally, because this was one of the big issues from the MAGA Republican Congress members, you would expect that they want to hold hearings on this. Right? And they want to get to the bottom of it. No, they're like, why are we even talking about this now? So the talking points that went out to the MAGA Republicans in Congress, like Mike Lawler, who by the way pretends he's not a MAGA Republican congressman is. He's like, why are we even talking about this now? Why is this even an issue? This, this should not be discussed. We're done, we're over it. I could play you dozens of clips like this of other Republicans, but this is an exemplar of what they're saying here. Let's play.
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Brett Meiselas
And as I said, if somebody did something, if there is evidence of a crime committed, then prosecute them. In the absence of that, what are we talking about? You say there's a lot of nonsense.
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Ben Meiselas
A lot of nonsense from whom? What do you think?
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Brett Meiselas
Except explain to me what you think.
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Ben Meiselas
The nonsense is here.
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Brett Meiselas
Well, frankly, the fact that you're even covering this, I mean, I don't even understand frankly what, why we're spending a lot of time on Jeffrey Epstein. You know, the fact is he was a pedophile who was arrested, he committed suicide and his, you know, fixer, if you will, is being prosecuted. So at the end of the day, if there are people who were part of any crimes, then they should be prosecuted. But in the absence of that, what is, what exactly are we looking to do? The information is there, it is well documented what he did. And beyond that, what exactly are we looking for?
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Ben Meiselas
Just, just so you know, it's being.
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Brett Meiselas
Covered because the deputy director of the FBI is said to have taken off.
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Ben Meiselas
Work on Friday to protest the Justice Department own handling of this.
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Brett Meiselas
And there have been shouting matches reported.
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Ben Meiselas
Inside the White House on this.
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Brett Meiselas
So whether or not you think it's important, apparently there are people who are.
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Ben Meiselas
Quite agitated about it.
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Brett Meiselas
But I will move on.
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Ben Meiselas
It's also why you can't have rational discussions or use logic with MAGA Republicans about anything. They're not good faith actors. I mean, you know, when you see how disastrous the response was in Texas to the flash floods, what they'll basically just say is you can't question us about anything or this was the greatest response ever. We did amazing. This is exactly how it's supposed to go down. Stop questioning us. Just pray and shut up. So you. You can't even have the rational conversation with them. Well, what are you doing? So they're the ones who pushed Epstein. Epstein. Epstein. By the way, it wasn't Biden who was pushing it or Obama. This was their issue. And we were always saying here, interesting that that's their issue because Donald Trump is all over the files that have been produced already. So it just seems like it's the ultimate projection to try to insulate Donald Trump from the fact that he's like the main guy on any list or in any files. Assume about 10% of the Epstein files have been released thus far, and there's about 90% that haven't been released. I think that's roughly pretty accurate because there have been criminal files released. There have been state files, there have been civil cases. If you were to run through chat GPT. Who's the main third party other than Ghislaine and Epstein? Whose in these files? Who's like a prominent celebrity type? I bet you Donald Trump's name would likely be at the very top of that list. He's Doe 174. He's literally. He's got a. He's got a designation. He's. He's Doe 174. So I'd like to see the files about Doe 174. He's all over the flight logs of Epstein's jet. Epstein was on Trump's jet. Epstein and Trump were as close as could be. They lived two blocks from each other. They partied together in 2002 in a profile in New York magazine before all the allegations came out about Epstein. Trump says Epstein is a great guy who likes women on the younger side. Beautiful girls. Many of them are very, very beautiful. That's what Donald Trump said about Epstein. You had Mar A Lago was used as the grounds in cases to sex traffic underage girls. And this isn't me being like conspiratorial about it. Oh, bend. You got to be careful what you say. It's documented. It's actually an undisputed fact that Donald Trump hired an underage girl, Virginia Giuffre, when she was homeless. He gave her a job. This was the M.O. by the way of Epstein preying on girls who were struggling financially, giving them money and introducing them to a life where he would then sex traffic. Trump hires Virginia Giuffre, underage. She works at Mar A Lago in comes Ghislaine Maxwell, who trafficked for Epstein. She finds Virginia Giuffre at Mar A Lago, brings her to Epstein, Epstein traffics her. Undisputed fact, that's how Mar a Lago was used by Epstein. And it was right down the block. You would walk over and you would do that. You want to hear it? In the words of Virginia Giuffre, who has since died by suicide in Australia. Here's what Giuffre had to say about it. Let's play it.
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Brett Meiselas
Virginia Roberts was working in the spa at Donald Trump's Mar A Lago club in Palm beach when British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell introduced her to multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein.
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Ben Meiselas
The training started immediately. I mean, it was everything down to how to give a blowjob, how to be quiet, be subservient, give Jeffrey what he wants. A lot of this training came from Guylaine herself. And being a woman, it kind of surprises you that a woman could actually let stuff like that happen, but not only let it happen, but to groom you into doing it. And then there's Jeffrey who's telling you.
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Brett Meiselas
I want it this way. No, go slower and don't do that and do this.
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Ben Meiselas
So then in 2007, 2008, Epstein was given what's called a non prosecution agreement, an NPA by the federal government. The United States Attorney at the time was a guy named Alex Acosta. Alex Acosta went on to become Donald Trump's Labor Secretary during Donald Trump's first term in office. The non prosecution agreement also covered co conspirators like Ghislaine Maxwell. And currently Ghislaine Maxwell is appealing her conviction to the United States Supreme Court, saying Alex Costa, who was the United States Attorney, federal prosecutor in the Southern District of Florida's NPA non prosecution agreement with Epstein covered co conspirators. So it was like a contract and she should not be prosecuted because she was bound into that contract as well. And so as she's appealing that Donald Trump's Department of Justice, they, their brief was due months ago to the Supreme Court because Ghislaine appealed to the Supreme Court. The Trump Justice Department appealed to the United States Supreme Court today. So what, 24 hours after Donald Trump's post where Donald Trump said that the Epstein files were actually created by Democrats, by Clinton and Obama, I think Trump knew his Justice Department had to oppose Ghislaine Maxwell's appeal to the Supreme Court. And so it wouldn't look good if they, you know, literally said, yeah, overturn her conviction. But Donald Trump just gave Ghislaine Maxwell a golden ticket to ask for a retrial. What she's going to say, the President of the United States who oversees the DOJ and FBI says that the list and everything about Epstein is actually a Democrat hoax. It was Clinton and Obama. So how could I be a co conspirator if they're saying Obama and Clinton did it and now I should get a retrial based upon the President of the United States saying that? So I think Trump realized, look, my DOJ is going to have to oppose your request, Elaine. But Elaine, I know you want to get out the list now, so let me try to do you a solid by giving you a retrial opportunity. And by the way, if you think, oh, Ben, you sound like a conspiratorial person. Well, do you remember back in 2019 when Alex Acosta was, you know, he had to re, he resigned, but not because Trump forced him out. I think he felt once he was uncovered, I think he felt the shame and he left on his own or something. But remember, Donald Trump had his back. Trump's like lots of people at the time, thought Acosta did a good deal with Jeffrey Epstein. That's what Trump said when the allegations came out that Acosta entered into the non prosecution deal with Epstein. Here, watch what Acosta said. This was, this was 2019 during Trump's first administration. People forget this clip. Let's play it.
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Paula White
A great labor secretary, not a good labor secretary. He's done a fantastic job. Job. He's a friend of everybody in the administration. And I got a call this morning early from Alex and I think he did a very good job yesterday under a lot of pressure. He did a fantastic job. And he explained it. He made a deal that people are happy with and then 12 years later, they're not happy with it. You'll have to figure all of that out. But the fact is he has been a fantastic Secretary of labor. And Alex called me this morning and he wanted to see me. And I actually said, well, we have the press right out here, so perhaps you just want to say it to the press. But I just want to let you know this was him, not me, because I'm with him. He was a, he's a tremendous talent. He's a Hispanic man. He went to Harvard, a great student. And in so many ways, I just, just hate what he's saying now because we're going to miss him.
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Ben Meiselas
Brett Jordy. He said people thought it was a great deal at the time Great deal.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Yeah.
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Brett Meiselas
I mean, it's one of those situations where, you know, you say if. Where there's smoke, there's fire, there's a blaze blazing, and there's so much. There's so much evidence. And like Ben said, these are not our theories about what may or may not have happened. These are not, oh, we think that this could have been this or that or whatever. This is the. These are the undisputed facts that we were giving. We certainly have, you know, a lot of theories we could get into, but these are the undisputed facts. And I've already seen the change in language from a lot of people, a lot of MAGA people, people who are close to Trump's orbit, people who are Mar a Lago guests, people who are MAGA influencers who go to the White House. They're all saying kind of different variations right now of we need to free Ghislaine Maxwell. Because actually, Ghislaine Maxwell was the victim of the system, because this whole thing was a hoax by the Democrats. And we now know that's clear because Donald Trump is saying it. So why should this woman be charged with crimes that this man, Jeffrey Epstein, did on behalf of Democrats? Why? She was just a victim in all this. Right? I mean, I've seen it multiple times. There's literally a White House new media reporter, she calls herself one of these people who are in the, in the briefing room. And this woman wears a shirt that says Free Ghislaine. Literally, the shirt says Free Ghislaine on it. And she's been wearing this now for. For at least months. We've been covering it on Midas News.com and she, right now on her Instagram, is pushing for a retrial or a pardon of Ghislaine Maxwell. She says the following. I'll be pushing for a retrial or a pardon until it happens. Especially in light of recent news. What's the recent news? Donald Trump statements. Everyone should wonder why one woman is serving 20 years for trafficking minors. To no one. Note that language there. To no one. Why? Because Donald Trump call said, case closed. No more Epstein case. We're not going to be looking into this anymore. There were no clients. And so anybody who is possibly under investigation, you're free, you're free. You're free to go. So people are taking this as, oh, so why is Ghislaine in jail after all this? She's not the only person. There's a British socialite lady, Victoria Hervey, who's in Trump's orbit As well. She reshared these posts saying that Epstein had no clients and that there was no trafficking there. Photos of her and Cash Patel photos of her and Donald Trump at Mar A Lago. And she said, keep in mind, there was no trafficking, no clients, only innocent victims who were extorted for money by corrupt attorneys through a calculated scheme of blackmail. You see what the theory is right there, that Ghislaine Maxwell, she is the victim in all this, not the actual victims. This right now is kind of just what we're seeing out of the Trump administration. What did we see? What was the big story that was released a few days ago that I don't think has gotten enough attention? Prince Andrew, who's been under investigation for all of his ties to Epstein, guess what? That got dropped when all this got dropped. Right? FBI no longer looking into it. Prince Andrew's basically been under a self imposed travel ban. I think he's only left the UK once out of fear that authorities might get him. Well, now he's free to travel around. He's free to go. FBI says no clients. You're free, you're safe. Nobody did anything wrong here. That's Trump's FBI who's letting these people off the hook. So you could talk even about hypotheticals about is Trump on the list? Is Trump not on the list? Is there a list? What's Trump going to do in the future? But we know what Trump's done already in the past and we know what he did three days ago. He dropped the case on all the clients. So I don't know how people aren't picking this up. Donald Trump has let the clients off the hook. All these MAGA people who are saying, we need to know who is on this list. This list, this list, this list, the list that they've been pushing. I don't know if there's a list. I know there are a lot of files. I know there are a lot of court documents. I know there are probably a lot of names in this court. I don't even know if there's a specific list. They've been calling for the list. Pam, Bonnie said the list was on her desk, but they've been calling for all this stuff. And meanwhile, Donald Trump goes, oh, all the people who may or may not be on that list, you're free. You're free to go. Enjoy, enjoy life. I got your back. While throwing Ghislaine Maxwell, as Ben said, this golden ticket. Now to argue for a retrial in her case, to argue for a mistrial like this. This, what we're seeing right now is just corruption at the highest scale. And we are seeing Donald Trump and the Republican Party actively cover up for Jeffrey Epstein. We are seeing it play out in real time. You want to talk about the elites covering up for these powerful people who exploited young girls. That's what's happening as we speak. This isn't something we need to dig in the past for. It's happening now.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Well, this is also what we're seeing, too. Brett perfectly said, is this is almost a way for Trump to give Ghislaine a pardon without formally doing it. Look, we all know he wished her well. He wished her well, everyone. And we know from credible reporting that he also wanted to look into potentially pardoning her under his first term. So with all of this that's happening right now, I just want to look at some other facts. Epstein dies, which also isn't getting enough attention. Dies in quotes there. Take that for what you will under Trump's first presidency in 2019. Right? So now if you're, you know, one of these. One of these people who really want to get to the bottom of it, we're looking at some facts here. Epstein dies under Trump's first term, Trump's second term, what does he do? He lets everyone walk free. And you're the MAGA Republican Party. You guys are supposed to be the party that wants to uncover the truth. And meanwhile, the only thing Trump is seemingly doing is letting just Lane kind of actually walk straight out of prison. What is happening right now, it should be like, people should be fed up because at the heart of it, like, we just want the truth. You know what I'm saying? If there are Democrats on that list, expose them all. Put it out there. We've said it from day one. It's not a Republican or Democrat thing. We don't give a shit about that. That if there are credible names on that list who committed the horrific acts that they are being accused of, expose them all. And this is what the MAGA Republican Party was saying as well, up until their boy Donnie Trump was like, hey, you know that Epstein stuff, let's not look at that anymore. Now, the issue for Trump is because he's so publicly spoken about this for so long and made it such an ethos of his campaign and who he is that he's going to release these files, more than half of his base is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Donnie, no, you said that we'd get the. You said that we'd get the list.
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Brett Meiselas
List.
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Jordyn Meiselas
What are you talking about? You, you had all those influencers come.
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Ben Meiselas
To the White House.
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Jordyn Meiselas
They held up those white binders. Is that what you meant by release? The release the list was have these guys hold up the white binders when they leave the White House. And that was releasing the list. No, Donnie, we want to know. And Trump can't help himself. He's a maniac. He keeps tweeting left and right. Everyone stop focusing on the Epstein files. And I saw the Google search since he tweeted that. I mean, the results between Trump and Epstein on just, just narrative Google search skyrocketed effect. Dry zan effect times a thousand.
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Brett Meiselas
It's called the Trump Epstein effect.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Yeah, we should start to. That's exactly what is. And the last thing I have to say, Benji, before I toss it back to you. Mike Lawler out of New York, he's not getting out of this segment scot free. This is one of these guys that pegs himself as not a MAGA Republican. But the dude can't help himself and not go against Trump at any turn that he has. Like this is. Constituents want to know the real story here with Epstein. We're from New York. I know, I know a lot of New Yorkers who want to know what the heck is going on for Mike Lawler, who again pegs himself as. I'm just a regular Republican. No, you're not, buddy. You know, because if you go against the demigod that is Donald Trump, you actually don't consider yourself a Republican in 2025. And that's pathetic, man. You're a loser, Benji.
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Ben Meiselas
Well, Lawler took away all the people's Medicaid after saying that he would never do anything with Medicaid when it comes.
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Brett Meiselas
To so concerned about it. You know, we should mention too, because we need to mention the people in Donald Trump, Trump's ear. Right. And so who else is speaking about these, this case right now? Somebody who, honestly, if I were him, I wouldn't be speaking about this case. And that's Trump's former lawyer, Alan Dershowitz. If I were, if I were the Dershman. Mr. I left my underwear on when I got the massage at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. Dersh. I would not be really speaking much about this. I'd lay little low. But Dershowitz came out and he said the following. He said, quote, certainly Ghislaine Maxwell should get a commutation. The sentence was way, way, way in excess of anything she was alleged to have done. And he also called her a victim and said that he was going to be asking. And he was calling on Donald Trump to issue a pardon to Ghislaine Maxwell. Looking at the people around Trump, the people closest to Trump. Right. And what they are saying, people who have been in Trump's life for, for a very long time and they are all kind of spouting the same thing about this topic.
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Ben Meiselas
Yeah. And one other data point as well. That non prosecution agreement that was entered with the feds in 2007, 2008, said that we'll basically defer prosecution and leave it to the state to decide. You all know who the Attorney General of Florida was during most of the relevant time period. Ding, ding, ding. Attorney General Pam Bondi was the Attorney General of Florida during the critical time period when Epstein could have been prosecuted. So in many ways, a lot of the files would be files that Pam Bondi's office are very, very much aware of. She doesn't have to go searching. There are files. We'll talk about that. And I want to talk about a little bit more when we come back on that. But then I want to talk about Donald Trump's trade war against the world backfiring in his face as at the end of last week he imposed tariffs on Canada, on Mexico, on the European Union. He's very proud of his letters that were written like a fifth grader. He says his letters are the deals. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Donald Trump's bizarre appearance at FIFA when he basically he stole the trophy also from Chelsea. The team, they had to get like a replica trophy because he literally stole the real trophy that's now in the Oval Office again. He just steals people's stuff like he steals their valor, he steals their trophies. I'm not making it up. He literally kept the trophy. We'll talk about that. Talk about Donald Trump's big announcement. I'm going to be tough. I don't know why people are reporting this like, oh, there was big news. Donald Trump's going to be tough on Russia. I mean, he literally just said, I'm going to basically do what Congress already authorized already that I interfered with. So I'm going to stop interfering with what Congress already authorized. But I'm going to wait another 50 days, days to determine if I'm going to put secondary sanctions on Russia. And also I have no clue what I'm talking about. So I'm going to call the secondary sanctions tariffs. I'm going to tariff Russia. He's no clue what he's talking about. I want to remind everybody, become a member of our YouTube channel. It's one of the ways we've been growing. We have no outside Investor, so those YouTube memberships have been hugely helpful in our growth. We've got big announcements about that growth with Midas Canada. We're also looking to build out Midas Australia. We're building out other YouTube channels of some major, major figures who you all know about. You'll be excited about the other channels we're launching. Really, we appreciate you. Those memberships help make that possible. Also go to Midasplus.com that's our substack. Let's take our first quick break of the show.
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Jordyn Meiselas
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Ben Meiselas
You know, I've always said there needs to be a basic floor of character when it comes to somebody in the White House. It's why we focused so much on Donald Trump's connections with Epstein, but also Donald Trump's words in general. I mean, you shouldn't have someone in the White House who's on tape or in private or in any setting at all is saying that you should. That if you're a rich person, you know, you grab women by their genitals because you're rich and that they let you do it it. And that's what he said when he was, you know, with Access Hollywood. I mean, that's a, it's a big deal. And then he was asked about it in a deposition where he was then found liable in a, in a case he was found liable by a jury of sexual assault. Separately, in a fraud case, he was criminally prosecuted and convicted on 34 felony counts of, of fraud. Separately, he was found liable for defamation in front of a federal jury. Separately, a judge found him liable for making fraudulent valuations. And by the way, you can see all of that conduct and behavior and low character and his criminality and his just disgustingness, it permeates his regime because.
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Brett Meiselas
It permeated his businesses.
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Ben Meiselas
It's why he bankrupted things. It's why People hated this guy, yet he kept on getting the media attention because in that reality TV driven world that got clicks and oh, so outrageous. Oh, my God, look at that. And it shows, I think, just the overall decay of a society. And it's like, how are we okay with that? A little bit later in the show, you know, we're going to show you this faith lunch that they had. And it's. No, you know, it's not shocking that the leader of Trump's faith lunch and the Trump faith office, you know, is someone who's a grifter, right? It's someone who's been called by. Whether you're religious or not. I mean, this is someone who's been called a false teacher by Christians, you know, and she's out there living in mansions off the tax exempt status of her church. She speaks gibberish, which is like, I'm speaking in tongues to God. Like, and it's like, what are you doing? You're just, what the, what the hell is that? And then she's like, we need you to buy, buy golden eggs for twelve hundred dollars. We're gonna sell you golden eggs on Easter. I mean, we'll show you that video in a little bit. You know, maybe this is Trump's crew. Like, they're all just like bad people. I'll show you. I mean, Donald Trump at a deposition in the Eugene Carroll sexual assault case where he was found liable civilly for sexual assault. He was asked by Eugene Carroll's lawyer what he means when he says he couldn't sexually assault someone because he doesn't find them attractive or they're not his type. And then Trump looks at the lawyer asking the question and is like, well, I wouldn't sexually assault you because you're not my type. That's what Trump said during a deposition. Here, play the clip. When you said in that video that misleads would not be your first choice, you were referring to her physical looks, correct?
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Paula White
Just the overall not. I look at her, I see her, I hear what she says, whatever. You wouldn't be a choice of mine either, to be honest with you. I hope you're not insulted. I would not under any circumstances have any interest in you. I'm being, I'm honest when I say it. She. I would not have any interest.
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Ben Meiselas
It's a sexual assault case. And that's what he's saying. It's on tape. Like, if that doesn't repulse you, like, if that, what I just showed you is not disqualifying to you, you I. You know, I'm not gonna. I. I don't. I don't. I'm not. I'm just, like, thinking, like, could you imagine if Obama was in a deposition in a sexual assault case where he was found liable, and he's on video talking to the lawyer and saying what you just heard him. What you just heard, you'll be disqualified. What are we talking like. Like, what are we even talking about here? You think he's on the Epstein list?
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Brett Meiselas
He already is.
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Ben Meiselas
I've seen his name in Epstein's black book. I've seen his name on the flight logs. I've seen him say, epstein's a great guy. You heard what he said right there. And by the way, when Trump was on tape saying that when you're rich, you get to sexually assault women, and they let you do it because you're rich. He was asked about it at the deposition in the Eugene Carroll case, and watch how he responds. Let's play it. And you say, and again, this has become very famous in this video. I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You could do anything. That's what you said, correct?
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Paula White
Well, historically, that's true with stars.
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Ben Meiselas
It's true with stars that they can grab women by the pussy.
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Paula White
Well, that's what it's. If you look over the last million years, I guess that's been largely true. Not always, but largely true. Unfortunately, you a fortunate man, and you.
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Ben Meiselas
Consider yourself to be a star.
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Paula White
I think you can say that, yeah.
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Ben Meiselas
He says fortunately. You heard him say fortunately. He said unfortunately, too. He goes fortunately or unfortunately. Why would that be fortunately? And then do you also see there that he. That he has to also say a million. Like, why do. Like, for a million years. For a million years, rich men have been sexually assaulting women, and you get away with it because you're rich? I mean, every. And again, what more evidence do we need than his own. Than his own words right there, you know, and that's why I go back and I show it, because character matters. And we. You know, you don't have to go down this. Oh, I wonder what the file say. He's saying it right there in front of us. Anyway, I'll leave it at that.
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Brett Meiselas
Y'.
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Ben Meiselas
All. Y' all can go back and. And. And I do deeper dives in other videos, but I want to talk about a few other things. First, Donald Trump going to this FIFA match and trying to steal the valor of the Chelsea Football Club's 3 nothing victory. Trump goes on stage. Our audio listeners can't see this, obviously, but our YouTube viewers can. You have the head of FIFA now trying to basically push Donald Trump to the back back because the team is trying to celebrate. And Trump wants the photo op for his social media. So he wants to be with the team as they hold it up so he can say, I'm a champion. So he goes on stage, the players are looking at each other like, what the hell is he doing? Like, we gotta. Is he gonna stand here? And then they post a photo, Chelsea with Donald Trump not on the stage. And then Trump steals the original trophy. He takes it to the Oval Office so that Chelsea Football Club is left with the replica version of it. Now, New York Post and other right wing regime media acted like Donald Trump was celebrated. Their headlines were literally, Trump gets standing ovation at FIFA. Roll tape. Let's see if it's a standing ovation here. Let's play. Was getting booed ruthlessly. Shout out to call it activism for first finding that clip right there and multiple occasions.
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Brett Meiselas
By the way, let me say he was booed twice because I think that was the portion where they were doing the national anthem. They showed Donald Trump on the jumbotron. Everybody started booing and so they quickly cut away from him. That was number one. Number two, when Donald Trump took the field at the end for the trophy ceremony, when he stepped on the field once again, the crowd erupted in boos. I saw another clip. I wish I had it here right now, but another clip as he's walking on the field and you see all the people in the crowd giving Trump the middle finger and booing him.
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Jordyn Meiselas
They go boo.
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Brett Meiselas
And then you see all the fingers out and then you see all those propaganda rags like the Post and everything have the nerve to write. Donald Trump gets loud applause, thunderous applause. It just shows you how this propaganda works. And that's why, you know, I said in the beginning and I'll repeat it now. If these are your sources that you are trusting, if you're somebody who picks up the New York Post and thinks that you're being fed the truth, right? They're just telling it how it is. If you're somebody who watches Charlie Kirk or watches Benny Johnson, watch one of these people and think, oh, they're just telling me how it is. Guess what? They ain't. They are lying to you. They are running cover right now for Donald Trump. Trump, they're running Cover for Jeffrey Epstein. They're running cover for all of these crimes and you just can't forget that fact.
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Ben Meiselas
Yeah. So then, by the way, did you all see Kristi Noem there on the bottom left? Like, isn't there something for you to be doing Kristi Noem, other than going to this FIFA match? But, you know, they were, you know, partying on Mar a Lago when the flash floods were taking place. You know, on July 4, July 5, July 6, Trump was there, like licking his ice cream cones and playing golf. This past weekend to Donald Trump posted how he won another golf tournament at his club and he was like showing a photo that he was the club champion again. It's like Kim Jong Un style stuff. This is a real post. Our audio listeners can't see it, but we have the post up from Trump's official account saying in between meetings and phone calls, it was a great honor to win the member member championship at Trump National Bedminster Gross. No strokes. With Tommy Eurocalli as my partner, the many other competitors were not only great golfers, but also terrific people. Our editor in chief, Ron Philip Kowski goes another championship for Trump today in one of his tournaments. The guy never loses in his own events. I mean, just so you know, what normal things would happen right now while you had these flash floods taking place. Biden wouldn't just show up for a photo op. And by the way, say that you're evil. If you question the response of the federal government and state and local officials, which Donald Trump says, you are evil, you're an evil person. Or the governor. That's what losers do. Losers. We like football in Texas. That's what losers do. And then Chip Roy, the maga, Republican Congress member from that district, did you hear what the governor said? Why are you such losers asking what could be done? We need to just focus on what we're doing now. You shouldn't be asking any questions at all. So that's what Kristi Noem was, was doing. By the way, J.D. vance, he wasn't in FIFA, but he was prancing around Disneyland. The guy like, has lived in California.
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Jordyn Meiselas
I think we lost. Benji, I want to comment really quickly on the Chelsea situation because I just want, sorry to go back to this, Brett, but, but I really want to talk about it for a quick second. And it's time for everybody's favorite segment. Imagine if Biden did it. Imagine if President Biden was on the stage with the winning championship team and he's being ushered off the stage by the president or whomever they telling him, hey, hey, come to time to get off the stage. The team needs to celebrate and the man doesn't leave the stage. Could you imagine the headlines that would take place?
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Brett Meiselas
Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper would have wrote another book.
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Jordyn Meiselas
He probably would. I could tell you exactly what would happen because do you guys remember the summer of 2024 at the G7 summit when President Biden went to walk over to a paratrooper who came, you know, parachuting down? Well, he was clipped out of context. If you remember that he was clipped walking away from Joe Biden or whomever else was there and going to shake the hands of the paratrooper who just came down. People. Right wing media clip that they, they cut out the paratrooper so it looked like President Biden was wandering away. You, you could google this. You, you can literally google it right now and you'll see all these ridiculous stories that popped up on about this. And then Reuters, to their credit, they, they said it was kind of a lame headline, but they fact checked it. Clip of Biden Wandering off a G7 summit lacks context. Not that it was total BS and fraudulent. They just said it lacks context. Neither here nor there. But if President Biden was on stage with a national championship, with a championship winning team and the CEO of that league was like, hey, it's time to get off the stage. The guy's got to celebrate. And he does not walk off immediately. The outrage from corporate media. This guy has dementia. He has no idea where he is. Well, I'm looking at you, Donald, and set. Why aren't you getting off stage? You either lack the social cues or you're just there again as Ben said to do some stolen valor weird thing. And I think it's a combination of both.
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Brett Meiselas
Both.
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Jordyn Meiselas
I think this guy has totally lost it and he honestly, he needs handlers to help him in these situations because he's that demented at this point.
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Ben Meiselas
Let me show you. Here's J.D. vance before I think I lost here, J.D. vance prancing around right here. You can all see it. I mean he, I'm not sure. Is he running to the bathroom? Like I'm not even under. With all of the Secret Service around him, I'm not sure why you would ever need to be running at all yet along that's how you run. I love how these people like I'm an alpha male. That's how, that's how alpha, that's how alpha males run it. I think that's how like ducks waddle. I'm not really sure that that's how people but like that's the guy who goes, but anyway, he's in Disneyland. You get the point. He's in he before he was in San Diego. And he spends the entire. While Trump and the regime are directing raids at California farms, someone died. They're like rounding up United States citizens, disabled veterans, like as they're attacking. As they're attacking our state in California, which if it was a country would be the fourth largest GDP in the entire world. And it is a beautiful state with lots of tourist attractions. But Trump and Vance defame it. But where do they vacation? The whole summer dance has been in California way more than he's been in his own home in Ohio, if that's even lives anymore. He's been spending his time in California. Governor Newsom wrote to J.D. vance, I hope you and your family are enjoying Disneyland while you rip apart families in California. And J.D. vance responded to it. Thanks for asking.
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Brett Meiselas
Asking.
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Ben Meiselas
We are having a great time period. Literally. That's what J.D. van said. How ghoulish is that? And then Kristi Noem, who you saw in the video partying it up in fema, she was also on the Sunday shows and she was asked about the response by the federal government. As I said earlier in the show, it's why you can't have logical discussions with these sociopants because obviously it was a bad response, right? What happened in Texas, this was horrible. Now we can have discussions. Was it the local government, the state government, the federal government's false fault? Was it all of the above? Why was the Camp mystic even built there in the first place? It was a four minute walk to a mountain nearby called God Mountain. That was the name of it. If it was four minutes, why couldn't an alert be issued to get the kids up there? Why did the, the local, the county basically steal the money from the federal government? $10 million that was supposed to be used for alarms to give themselves bonuses instead of implemented because they thought that money was woke money. So they didn't want to build the alarm systems. Why didn't they use the alerts on the phones to alert people that they could have done like a major alert. Why did DOGE fire all of the National Weather Service people people and push them out six key vacancies, including the lead meteorologist coordinator. Why did it take 72 hours for the Urban Search and Rescue team to be activated? Because Kristi Noem had a $100,000 requirement that she personally sign off on any expenditures. So it took 72 hours for urban search and Rescue to actually be activated there. Why was it that Christy Noem cut the, the call center contracts so that 85% of calls were not return right away by FEMA? Because they wanted to cut the contracts. On July 5, during the crisis itself, they cut the contracts. Kind of undisputed fact. There's, there was a horrible response. This is not something that should be imitated. We should all agree, and we should figure out what the problem is now. Who's more culpable? The camp? The local government? The feds? We can have that discussion. And I'm, and I'm, I'm open to that. But Kristi Noem over the weekend Said says, no, this is what we want to do in every state. This was the model. This was perfect. And this is how we're going to do it all the time. Texas, what happened here, we're doing it everywhere. This is what she says here, play this clip. These, these emergencies need to be conducted.
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Brett Meiselas
Exactly how President Trump handled this one. It was that the local responders are the ones who execute the response. The state comes in and manages it and then the federal government comes in and supports it.
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Ben Meiselas
And as soon as Texas asked for.
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Brett Meiselas
Anything, we were there.
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Ben Meiselas
She says that's the perfect response. You heard her in her own words.
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Brett Meiselas
They keep going back to that, right, Ben? They keep going back to. It's the local response. It's supposed to be the local governments that are doing this. They're trying to put all the responsibility on the states for things that cost so much money and the things that the federal government is supposed to handle. What does the first letter of FEMA stand for? Federal. And she wants to absolve herself of any blame. They remember they wanted to shut down this agency. They wanted to shut down fema. And they only started sort of kind of backtracking on that idea once hit the fan with this storm. And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, we're not going to comment on that. Don't ask me about that. Don't ask me about that. I think it's kind of important thing for us to know if you're going to, if you still want to shut down fema, but they're kind of effectively shutting down FEMA as is, by the way, that they're not providing help to these people. By the way, they've been holding back approvals. The way they jammed up the system, the way they've let these people go. They are creating a situation. And, and they're right. If they're going to do this is going to happen every time. Okay? It's going to happen every time. The next natural disaster that comes, guess what's going to happen? There's going to be death, there's going to be destruction. They're going to be people who are unable to get their basic needs met because of Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, because they'd rather play this political battle to pretend that everything's okay and that nothing's their responsibility than actually act. It is the basic thing that we want government to do do. The basic thing that a government needs to do for the people is protect the people. That's like number one. Number one of the government. Protect the people for the safety of the people. Right. For the general welfare of the public. That is not what this government is doing. This government is actively harming people. And it's not just federal also. It's these Republicans in these states, like Texas. What Ben said before was true. They literally said they did not want to take money from Biden to improve their systems because that would be woke. Biden's a communist. They don't want to take the. That commie money. And, and you know, they got it covered. They got it covered. Well, clearly not. Their people could have used this money and then they funneled it to other places. Right. Same story every single time. And so I would like to say this isn't going to happen anymore. We've seen this happen. We've seen death, we've seen kids die. But I can't say that it is going to happen again. They're going to deflect yet again. Remember, at the beginning of this, Trump tried not even to speak about it for the first day. He like, was, no, no, no comments for a little bit. And then he finally was forced to because it became a really bad issue. He's done that with every cris this administration. He refuses to speak when our troops die overseas. He refuses to speak when our troops die during exercises here. He refuses to speak on issues that a commander in chief is supposed to speak on, that a commander in chief is supposed to assure the American public about. And they are supposed to be in a situation where they say the buck stops with me. But with Trump and with Noam, it's always the buck stops with somebody else. And that is not leadership. That's just cowardice.
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Ben Meiselas
This. I want to make a prediction here, and I'm going to talk about it and give you the data points when we come back from our break. Donald Trump is going to fire the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, for cause. In the next six months, I'll give myself, and I think it'll be sooner than that, but I'll give myself six months and Donald Trump's going to say that Jerome Powell fraudulently used government funds in order to build the new treasury building or the new, rather the new Federal Reserve building. And that's how Donald Trump's going to try to claim it was a for cause misappropriation. It's obvious the regime is already setting it up for that. They already have people auditioning for who's going to be the next chairman. By the way, Jerome Powell's term ends in 2026 anyway. But let me give you the data points for that prediction and I want to also show you that Donald Trump's trade war against the world is going horribly. Then let's talk about this faith lunch that went down on Monday, as well as Donald Trump's meeting with the secretary general of NATO. A reminder, make sure you subscribe to this YouTube channel. And if you can become a member of this YouTube channel, you'll see the button here on YouTube where it says join. If you just look right on YouTube, you'll see it has like a join feature where you can become a member. Click that. You can gift memberships to others. You can get a membership for yourself. We have no outside investor, so it helps grow this independent media platform. I think you see our expansion each and every day. All right, let's take a quick break right now. We'll be right back to close out this episode strong with our last segment.
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Brett Meiselas
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Jordyn Meiselas
Let's go shout out to our sponsors. Shout out Qualia Shout out Simply Safe New sponsor to the pod. Definitely check them out. We really stand behind them for sure. Great links in description of both the YouTube and the audio. Use the links, use the codes. If there's an exit survey, let them know we sent you. Real quick. Benji, before I toss it to you, I want to say this. Brett Ferrari, our video listeners right now is editing this podcast on hard mode so you go you like no video games. There's easy mode, there's medium, there's. And then, like, the level of difficulty. Brett's doing it on, like, super hard mode. The. The software we use just had an update, and Brett's all out of sorts right now. So I'm.
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Ben Meiselas
I've just.
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Jordyn Meiselas
I have to say, b, I'm very impressed with how you've been handling it, and. And you've been doing great. Most people wouldn't have noticed if I didn't say anything, so I just wanted.
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Brett Meiselas
To say great job. What are you gonna do? I feel like it's not something we had to mention, but I pre. I appreciate the kind of words.
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Ben Meiselas
All right, let's test Brett. Rapid fire. I'm gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna go clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip. But I'm gonna test your theory, Johnny, right now. Light lightning round. Okay. First, I want to show Donald Trump's economic adviser, Kevin Hasset. And Kevin Hassett says that, nope, we never said 90 deals in 90 days. What we said is sketches of deals before August 1st. Sketches before August 1st. Here, let's play it on.
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Brett Meiselas
On Canada, European Union, and Mexico ago. Why now? What's going on? Well, I think that we've got a deadline that's coming up in early August. And the thing about President Trump, if you go back and look at his history, that he became one of the most successful, if not the most successful businessman in the 20th century because he was able to squeeze everything out of every deal that he made. And right now, we've got that guy who wrote the art of the deal making deals for the American people. And we've got to see where the dust settles. The bottom line is that. That he's seen some sketches of deals that have been negotiated with Howard Lutnick and the rest of the trade team. And the President thinks that deals need to be better and to basically put a line in the sand, he sent these letters out to folks, and we'll see how it works out.
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Ben Meiselas
We've seen sketches of deals also, let's be clear. When you're involved in a negotiation and your desire is to destroy your counterpart and squeeze them out, that's not. That's not really a good way to negotiate in good faith. Faith. So when you're dealing with the European Union or Mexico or Canada or Japan or Australia and you go into these negotiations, I'm going to squeeze everything I can, because then what Trump wants to do is post on social media, look how I made them submit. I destroyed Australia or Japan or Mexico, Hahaha. These are proud countries that value their sovereignty, that have trading relationships elsewhere also. And they don't want to be treated, you know, this way. I mean, Donald Trump sent that letter to the European Union and to Mexico over the weekend. He waited until the markets closed. It was backed. I mean, the letters are dated on Friday, but he posts them on social media on Saturday. You know, these 30% tariffs against Mexico and the European Union. And he did it before. When it comes to Canada, all that's doing is having these other countries forge stronger relationships with each other and with China. It's helping the BRICS block rise and it's just weakening the United States. As I said before the break, I want to show you why I'm pretty confident that they are teeing up a four cause firing of chairman of the Federal Reserve Jerome Powell. Kevin Hassett was asked about firing Jerome Powell over the weekend. Here's what Hassett said. Let's play it.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Yes or no answer.
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Ben Meiselas
Does the president, in your view, have the authority to fire the Fed chair?
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Brett Meiselas
That's a thing that's being looked into. But certainly if there's cause he does. Okay, thank you very much, Kevin Hast.
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Paula White
Really appreciate it.
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Ben Meiselas
The Supreme Court in a prior ruling actually allowed Donald Trump to fire independent agency heads without cause, overturning decades and decades of Supreme Court precedent. But they just made up a rule in their order saying you can't with the Federal Reserve chairman. It has to be for cause cause. So right now, Kevin Hassett, who you saw there and others in the Trump regime have been sending letters to the chairman of the Federal Reserve saying, you know, we know that you're building this Federal Reserve building. We think money's been misappropriated. Answer these questions. So they're just teeing up before cause termination. Hassett, that guy who you just saw there, who's wrong about everything, his career. He predicted the dot com boom would go go even boomier. Right before the bust. He said bye, bye, bye. The next day there was basically a crash. He's an infamous loser, that guy. He's basically the next person in line to be the chairman of the Federal Reserve and just do whatever Donald Trump wants. The other guy is this guy Kevin Warsh, who was auditioning this weekend. And here's what War said. Here, play this.
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Brett Meiselas
The president has been considering you as the successor to Jay Pat Powell. He said some very nice things about you to me recently when I was talking with him. Powell's term is up in May, but there's also an opening in the Federal Reserve in January. Would you be poised to accept the position on the board in January? I had that job. I was a governor for six years during the financial crisis. It's a great job to have. It's up to the president to make whatever decisions he wants. But I think what we need is regime change at the Fed. And that's not just about the chairman. It's about a whole range of people. It's about changing their mindset and their models. And frankly, it's about breaking some heads, because the way they've been doing business is not working. Maybe in New York, maybe in Washington.
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Ben Meiselas
People, it actually is working. And it's the one thing that's keeping our economy alive right now. If Donald Trump were to precipitously drop interest rates, rates as he wants to now, by three points, it would lead to a massive recession and potentially a great depression. It's one of the reasons why the Federal Reserve is independent to avoid this. We may not like where interest rates are right now. They were declining before inflation went back up. They were declining under Biden. Donald Trump, that had the trade war against the world, it is causing inflation to rise. Trump and everybody around him claim that they defeated inflation. They said it no longer exists right now and that gas is $1.98 and that everything is great and that everything is so much cheaper right now, which is false bread.
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Brett Meiselas
Facts no longer exist, and they're playing off a slate of alternative facts to make their decisions. They lie about everything. And you could see this. I wanted to bring up this because Ben told you about their plan right now to try to fire Powell for cause. Right? That's what they're pushing. They're writing these letters. They're having Congress do their whole, oh, we're going to investigate this. It's the same playbook they always run to try to smear somebody, to try to pressure them to step down or have Donald Trump fire them for cause and say, listen, he was stealing money. Right? They make things up. The other leg of this is what I'm seeing online by this guy, Bill Pulte. For those of you guys who don't know, Pulte is the U.S. director of federal housing. He's a billionaire worth nearly $4 billion. And so he starts spreading a rumor about Jerome Powell, and I don't think this has gotten enough attention. Pulte starts spreading a rumor that Jerome Powell is considering resigning based on nothing other than the fact that the Trump administration wants him to resign. And so they're trying to get this rumor mill going. So he leaks this to the press. A guy who wants Powell out leaks to the press that Powell is considering resigning. So inevitably that allows the propaganda media ecosystem to go full speed into this. And then Pulte then regurgitates what the media is saying about his copy comments and it all comes full circle over and it just goes over and over again. So you could see I'm pulling up his profile here. And then he writes things like this. If news reports that Powell is considering resigning are accurate, the economy would boom like never before. It's just math. The news reports are based on your words. You are the news reports. You are the ones spreading this rumor. And there's another post he did right here. Federal mortgage regulator Bill Pulte calls on Congress to investigate, investigate Fed Chair Powell. That was like what Ben was saying before. So he's pushing the investigation and he's pushing this lie that Powell is considering resigning. Then you see, I have a screenshot of Fox here, Fox talking about him saying that Powell is considering resigning. And Pulte goes, how soon will Powell resign? And then he shows Trump responding to the rumors that Powell is considering resigning. And he shows Trump responding to it right there. Then let's see where then he says, says, I also personally was in a meeting with Jerome Powell last month and he looked completely drained of life. He also writes Pulte, the patriotic thing for Jerome Powell to do is resign. So you have these people who have these things that they want to do. In this case, they want to get rid of Jerome Powell so they could get rid of the independence of the Fed, destroy the economy for short term low interest rates to try to help Trump and help billionaires get money for free, essentially. And they're willing to smear the head of the Federal Reserve and try to, to basically threaten him with criminal charges in order to get him to either step down or get Donald Trump to fire him and say, I was just doing what's best for America. This is what's playing out right now. And so I feel like people aren't really speaking about this specific end of this story. So I wanted to make sure I just laid out all the ends of what is happening.
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Ben Meiselas
Yeah, they want a four cause pretextual justification to fire Powell. To me, that order has already been made. Right. So now what they're just waiting for and this is what Powell has to figure out. And by the way, Trump appointed Powell, so Powell is Trump's pick. So I just want to be very clear during first Trump administration and so what Powell has to figure out now is how do I respond to this letter because it's obviously intended to get me fired. And what's the right response? I mean, the truth, of course, but that's what this is. And I expect this to happen in the next, as I mentioned, six months, but I think probably sooner. And I think it's going to result in a massive tanking of the market like we've never seen before. So come back to this when that happens. Going to Donald Trump's faith lunch that he was doing. And again, I don't think it's a surprise that he's doing a faith lunch the day after he's or as he's covering for the Epstein list. Because this is what these people do, right? They cover themselves in the flag and they cover themselves in religion and they use it. And these are not religious people, in my opinion, not patriotic people, in my opinion, who use the symbols that people love and play on people's religions to ingratiate themselves, to engage in their bad behavior. So just so you see, who's the head of Donald Trump's faith office? Her name is Paula White. She goes around speaking gibberish and asking for money and has a tax exempt status status. And by the way, now under Trump's irs, churches can endorse political candidates and, and still keep their IRS tax exempt status. Other non profits aren't allowed to, but churches get to keep tax exemptions. And then, you know, someone like Paula White is, you know, has built mansions for herself and lives a lavish lifestyle. But if you go to a Paula White sermon, she just goes, mom on.
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Brett Meiselas
Here, watch for Angels are being released right now. Angels are being dispatched right now.
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Ben Meiselas
That's not even speaking in tongues. You're just gibberish. It just, it just gibberish. There's nothing there.
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Brett Meiselas
Hold on a sec. What was the guy just walking behind her like bored, like on his phone, like he's in the wrong place. Can we play this one more time?
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Ben Meiselas
Watch it.
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Brett Meiselas
I feel like it's. Have your seen that like, clip from like back in the day Internet, like Ebaum's World, when you know exactly what I'm talking about. Jordan, right? The gorilla.
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Ben Meiselas
Yeah, yeah.
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Brett Meiselas
When it's like that.
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Ben Meiselas
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what he's doing. But play the clip.
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Brett Meiselas
But they, they play the clip. No, they play. No, let me talk about Ebomb's World for a second. Yeah, just chill. Just chill, bro. You got your haircut. You think you could just cut me off?
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Jordyn Meiselas
Big Guy over here.
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Brett Meiselas
Yeah, big guy over here. So it's this ebams world clip. You play the clip, and then it says, did you notice the gorilla playing basketball? And then they play it again, and then you notice the gorilla playing. Playing basketball, walking behind the people in the footage. I feel like that is. Looks like kind of what's going on here. I'll play one more for.
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Ben Meiselas
Angels are being released right now.
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Brett Meiselas
Angels are being dispatched right now.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Come on. I mean, come on. Come on.
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Ben Meiselas
That.
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Jordyn Meiselas
That's ridiculous.
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Brett Meiselas
Ben has an explanation.
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Jordyn Meiselas
No, before we toss it to Ben, because I know he likes us talking about the Ebaums world clip so much. I just need to clarify, Brett, because I know there's a listener out there that knows exactly the clip you're talking about and yelling at their phone right now or screen. You're supposed to count the passes in the video, and as the people are passing the basketball, that's when the gorilla walks through. The gorilla is not playing basketball. So, sorry, I just need to clarify.
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Brett Meiselas
Let's count the passes.
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Jordyn Meiselas
What do you think?
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Ben Meiselas
I think he's holding up like some scripture, and what he's doing is like he's walking around to make it look like he's holding the word of God and he's like, feeling this trance. I think that's what I mean. I think that's the. That that's what they're trying to have to place. Just. I think we have another clip of her. Just so you see, like, this is a separate sermon. Like, this is just. This is. This is what she does here. Play this clip. Actually, she's speaking old Valerian from Game of Thrones. I don't know if you know that that's actually what I mean. So. So, but then. So you know how, like, Trump sells his Bibles, like during easter, she sells $1,000 supernatural eggs. Here, let's show this year.
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Brett Meiselas
Play.
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Ben Meiselas
And I believe that when you honor God on Passover, starting on April 12th at sundown, through Good Friday on the 18th, and concluding on Easter Sunday, you can receive these seven supernatural blessings for.
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Brett Meiselas
You and your house.
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Ben Meiselas
According to Exodus 23, God will assign an angel to you. He'll be an enemy to your enemies.
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Brett Meiselas
He'll give you prosperity.
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Ben Meiselas
He'll take sickness away from you. He will give you law life. He'll bring increase in inheritance, and he'll.
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Brett Meiselas
Give a special year of blessing. You're not doing this to get something, but you're doing it in honor to.
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Ben Meiselas
God, realizing what you can receive for your special Passover offering of $1,000 or more. As the Holy Spirit leads, you will also receive the beautiful 10 inch Waterford Crystal cross. Don't miss your moment to release seven supernatural blessings and provision into your. Your life.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Come on. This is right out of the righteous gemstones. This is ridiculous.
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Ben Meiselas
That's why, though, she's Trump's head of faith. I mean, Trump sells the. I mean, that's what's going on here. And then Donald Trump at this faith lunch is joking.
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Brett Meiselas
They.
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Ben Meiselas
They laugh at this. Like the audience, the faith lunch, they laugh at this about Putin bombing nursing homes and Trump finding out from Melania that Putin just bombed a nursing home home after Putin had a good conversation with Donald. And they. And the people find this funny there. Here, play this clip.
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Paula White
But we thought we had a deal. Numerous times I'd get home, I'd say, first Lady, I had the most wonderful talk with Vladimir. I think we're finished. And then I'll turn on the television or she'll say to me one time, wow, that's strange because they just bombed a nursing home. I said, what?
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Ben Meiselas
So, you know, I'm not trying to make another reference, Brett, because I have no clue what I'm even referencing here, but, like, where they do the laugh track at the most inappropriate, like, point where, like, it's like, what? There's a, There's a lot. Is that a laugh track? You know, it's like, no, no, no. That's actually the people. There was nothing funny about that story. The story was Vladimir Putin manipulating Donald Trump. Trump into believing that there could be a peace deal. And then shortly thereafter, Putin bombs nursing homes, killing innocent Ukrainians. And the audience laughed at that. Like, that was a funny situation. I mean, you, you heard that there. So all then also at this faith lunch, Donald Trump kept on cursing and saying, I was, he kept on talking. I was indicted five times. This, that. Here, play this clip. I did.
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Brett Meiselas
I see.
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Paula White
I got indicted five times, impeached two times. All right. Terrible stuff.
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Ben Meiselas
And they're like laughing at them. What the hell is going on? Okay, so then before that, Donald Trump met with Secretary General Rut, who's the NATO Secretary General. And this was like Trump's big announcement earlier in the day with the Secretary General of NATO right there. Surely Trump was going to say, say, I'm imposing secondary sanctions or we're going to give Ukraine new weapons. Not like what we were already giving them, that Donald Trump stopped and interfered with. But Donald Trump's big announcement was that I'm very unhappy with. I'm very unhappy. They make me unhappy. So in 50 days, I'm going to impose, I think he says tariffs, but he means secondary sanctions. And mind you, you, we already don't do trade with Russia. There's already a ban that Trump is allowing Russia to evade because Trump has removed the sanctions on all of the key Russian banks. Okay, so that's already happened. So now Trump is saying, I'm going to impose secondary sanctions, but we've got to wait 50 days. Now, as I said at the outset, why 50 days? Because it's already been reported, and Putin said this in other speeches, that it will take Putin 60 days. Putin has said in order to take over more areas of Ukraine based on the summer offensive. So Putin's put the marker out for 60 days. So if you want to know, why was it 50 days versus two weeks, it's because Putin said he needed 60 days. So this is how Trump negotiates.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Right?
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Ben Meiselas
Okay. He said 60 days. I'll do it in 50. Vladimir, watch this here.
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Paula White
And one of the reasons that you're here today is to hear that we are very, very unhappy. I am with Russia, but we'll discuss that. Maybe a different day, but we're very, very unhappy with them. And we're going to be doing very severe tariffs if we don't have a deal in 50 days. Tariffs at about 100%, you'd call them secondary tariffs. You know what that means. But today we're going to talk about something else. And as you as you know, we've spent $350 billion approximately on this war with Russia and Ukraine, and we'd like to see it end. It wasn't my war. It was Biden's war. It's not my war. I'm trying to get you out of it, and we want to see it end. And I'm disappointed in President Putin because I thought we would have had a deal two months ago, but it doesn't seem to get there. So based on that, we're going to be doing secondary tariffs if we don't have a deal in 50 days. It's very simple. And they'll be at 100%, and that's the way it is. That can be more simple. It's just the way it is. I hope we don't have to do it.
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Ben Meiselas
You promised there would be peace in Ukraine in 24 hours. Now you're saying you need 50 more days. By the way, that's when Putin's summer offensive and you start getting it to winter time in Ukraine, although winter's a little further thereafter. But that's usually when there's a lull in the fighting. So what? Give Putin cover for the next 50 days. You promised peace in Ukraine in 24 hours. You promised peace in Gaza in 24 hours. You promised all of these things that are now just utter lies. And the fact that even some corporate news acted like this announcement was something like groundbreaking. Oh, my God. He did what we. What did he do? I mean, what was that? I'm very upset. I'm very upset. You're very upset. What a weird thing. What a weird thing to say. Anyway, that's where I'll leave it, right there. Brett and Jordi. Brett, I'll give you the final word too.
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Brett Meiselas
Yeah, I'll just say, like, it's, it's so frustrating to me when people buy Donald Trump's bullshit because he quite literally lies about everything. I mean, I literally got a push alert notification on my phone the other day from cnn, cnn that there was a ceasefire happening between Israel and Hamas. Ceasefire, imminent ceasefire. Trump, ceasefire. This is what they were pushing, right? And guess what? No ceasefire. We've seen some of the biggest violence that we have seen in Gaza of the entire last few years. We've seen like, over the weekend, we've seen kids get killed. We like that. At water distribution plants. We've seen multiple people killed in airstrikes. And then Israel says, oh, you know, we actually just, we bombed it by mistake. Sorry, oops, what are we going to do? Oopsies. And, but I was told weeks ago from the legacy media that there was a ceasefire and it was about to be done. Do not believe Donald Trump's bullshit. Only you. You like, remember, like, trust and verify. You need to verify before you trust anything that comes out of Donald Trump's mouth. Because he quite literally lies about everything. And you could see, as we showed you in this episode, everybody around him lies about anything. And he's built up these propaganda networks and this is. They existed during his first term, but now it's different. It's a lot different right now because he's built up these propaganda networks and these who do not say no to him. So he wants to put somebody in the Fed who doesn't actually believe in the economic data, right? So he's gonna, he wants to put somebody in there who's going to do things not based on reality but based on vibes. The data that's coming out of the government right now, I don't think we could trust, I don't think we could trust any of the data that's coming out of the US Government. You have Fox regurgitating his lies, New York Post saying that he got a loud applause when he got loudly booed. We're living in the Upside down right now, so we all need to be the vanguards of truth. And I think that's what we are here at the Midas Such network. That's what we strive for, that's what we try to be. Doesn't mean we get right 100% of the time, but we strive for that. That. I know all of you out there strive for that too. So thank you for calling out the bs, thank you for staying strong, and thank you for pushing back against this regime.
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Jordyn Meiselas
Amazing. And before I before I send it off, please download the Midas Touch podcast on audio wherever you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify, wherever, download that audio. Leave a five star review. All the best. Thank you so much. Shout out to the Midas.
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Ben Meiselas
Is standing.
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Brett Meiselas
Strong against the fascist we sing our song.
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Jordyn Meiselas
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