Jordy Meiselas (3:04)

Brett and Jordy, well said. And you know, you notice when Donald Trump is caught in these lies, he then brings up like every hoax he ever does. And to me, that's just affirmation that all those other stories are true. He'll oh, it's the Russia, Russia, Russia, the Ukraine called. I'm like, yeah, you did all that stuff. So, like, the fact that you're now looping in this Epstein story with that, it's actually making me even more suspicious. And I gotta say, Trump's reaction to all of this is been absolutely wild. I mean, you know, say all the things that you say about Donald Trump. The one thing that I actually think the guy is good at is reading his base, understanding his base, and knowing how to manipulate them in the right ways. But what I've seen from him in the past few days has been such a misstep. And that is saying it lightly. He is basically saying F you to his base. I mean, he literally called them weaklings yesterday. He called them stupid. And this is just the most ridiculous part of the COVID up, the fact that he is actually yelling at his own base in this situation. They are getting confused. They are trying their best to try to figure out how do we justify liking Donald Trump after this. I've seen a lot of them be like, okay, that's it, I am out. It is so fascinating that this is the story that is finally kind of tearing apart this movement that is collecting, collapsing this house of cards. But when you think about it, it does make sense because remember, and remember, we've been reporting on this at Midas Touch now, I think since like day one of Midas Touch, we've been on this story, maybe a video a day about this topic. But remember, Donald Trump started his entire presidential run. You know, obviously you could go back to the, the Obama birth certificate stuff. But what was the big thing of Trump in 2016, the big stories back then? It was QAnon. It was the idea that there are these elite pedophile rings and it's all run by Democrats. And Trump was going to come into. Trump was going to have mass executions of his political opponents. That's. It sounds pretty sick, right? That's what Trump ran on. And this Epstein story has been seeded in that this Epstein story happens to be a true story with a lot of confirmed facts about rings like this with him. And now it's come home to roost because Donald Trump was Epstein's best friend, and now he's trying to cover it up. And this is such a kind of origin story of this movement that it's breaking them apart because this movement really came together under the. This whole QAnon thing, and this is kind of, you know, related to that. I don't know. I don't want to pretend that this is like, in any way a conspiracy theory, because this is actually a real part of all that. Not the conspiracy stuff they were spreading, but it's tearing them apart because it's so tied to what they thought this movement was about from the beginning. It's fascinating to watch. We're going to break it all down and why Trump is also terrified right now. But first, let me toss it over to Jordy. Jordy, what's the latest?

Caroline Levitt (5:50)

Hey, let me just say this. You know, a lot of people out there, they like to paint Trump as this great marketer, this great messenger. Look, this was a guy born halfway between third base and home plate who's had every red carpet rolled out for him. So now seeing him actually have to dig his way out of something where even his own MAGA fandom base is turning against him. This is the first time he's kind of ever been on. Well, maybe the second time he's been on an island. And he's trying to peel his way out bit by bit. And he is grasping for everything. You know, we mentioned it last week. What are they trying to do? They're trying to divert the story to Biden's auto pen. Sorry, said this on Monday. Doesn't have the same bite to it there, Donnie, as Epstein's island. Your bff when you Google the guy's name. Everyone, please just take a second. Google Donald Trump. Jeffrey Epstein. Look at how many photos exist now. Do me a favor, Google Joe Biden. Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, look, no photos. You know what I mean? So when you're looking at Donald Trump right now, he is a guy that is on the ropes. And this is, quite frankly, this. This is collapsing the MAGA base before our eyes.

Brett Meiselas (6:51)

Ben, look. And beyond the photos, I've said it like this before, about 10% of the Epstein files have been released to date. About 90% haven't. The 10% come from civil, criminal, administrative and other actions. Donald Trump's name appears over and over again. He's on the flight logs at least seven times, and only a small portion of the flight logs have been produced. He's on the depositions with Epstein telling sex trafficking victims he's gonna bring them to Trump's casinos in Atlantic City. Trump is quoted as saying in 2002, Epstein is a great guy. He likes beautiful women. Many of them are on the younger side. Donald Trump is Doe 170. You want to know how I know there's an Epstein list? If there's a 174, there's a 173 and a 175. That's the way lists work. Doe 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. He's a Doe because the information about him could be harmful to his reputation. And that information was not released in connection with the civil cases against Epstein. But one of the ways you would find out some of the stuff that Trump was involved in with Epstein, as you would say, turn over all the DOE 174 files. You can go through all of these connections, like in the Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking case. Now, a woman who was at the time 14 years old, identified as Jane Doe, said when she was 14 years old, she was brought by Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein to meet Donald Trump at Mar A Lago. Let's get that grand jury testimony, bring that to light. Mar A Lago was used as a crime scene. I mean, it was one of the places where the sex trafficking took place. And you go, Ben, you got to be careful what you say. I'm just telling you the facts. One of the MOs of Jeffrey Epstein, he would prey on destitute girls, underage girls. Donald Trump would give them jobs at the spa in Mar a Lago. One of those girls, Virginia Giuffre, who has since died by suicide, she was a homeless 17 year old girl, got a job as the towel girl at Donald Trump's spa. And then Ghislaine Maxwell would walk down the block to the spa and say, hey, I see you like you're working at this spa. I want to introduce you to a rich guy I know. His name is Jeffrey Epstein and he likes massages. And, you know, you may be able to travel the world with him as part of a career doing massages. You want to meet Epstein? Then they would sex traffic Virginia Giuffre. That's what happened. I mean those, those are facts. Some of the early victims would come out and say we would go to Epstein's office building. And when I went to Epstein's office building, Trump was there. Epstein would say to me, hey, you know, or tell Donald, she's not for you, yours is in the other room. And then I, and then I would watch Donald Trump go into the other room. I mean this stuff predated even the criminal charges against Epstein, people saying these things. And then it became the criminal charges which ultimately Donald Trump's labor secretary, Alex Acosta, who previously in 2007, 2008 was the United States Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, gave Epstein a non prosecution agreement and said we won't do anything at the federal level, we'll defer to the state. And guess who the state was. Eventually it was Donald Trump's current Attorney Attorney General. Pam Bondi was the attorney general of general of Florida. And they deep six that. They also gave Epstein a co conspirator non prosecution agreement saying that you can't go after Epstein's co conspirators either. And the way it was framed in the non prosecution agreement is in any court in the United States. Ultimately, the Southern District of New York federal judges said we're not going to honor a deal entered into in the Southern District of Florida. A Southern District of Florida deal can't bind other district courts. That's how Epstein was prosecuted and Ghislaine was prosecuted. But Ghislaine Maxwell's current appeal to the United States Supreme Court is on the basis of, hey, there was this deal, a contract that was entered into and Ghislaine's family wrote this statement saying Donald Trump makes deals. And if you're a deal maker, the deal was co conspirators should not get prosecuted. And Ghislaine was identified as a co conspirator so she shouldn't have been prosecuted. That's what she's arguing to the Supreme Court. And what does Donald Trump do? Yesterday he fires the lead prosecutor into Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein criminal prosecutions. He fired Maureen Comey, James Comey's daughter, who, who was the lead prosecutor in those cases. At the same time, Donald Trump says that James Comey, Comey's daughter's dad, was the one who created the Epstein hoax. That's what Trump's calling it. I want you to think about the golden ticket Donald Trump just gave to Ghislaine Maxwell. She's going to argue number one. The President claims this is all one big hoax. But number two, now I'm finding out for the first time from the President of the United States that the lead prosecutor on my case, her dad, was the person who created the Epstein hoax. So she didn't disclose that. Now, of course, Comey's daughter, who was the federal prosecutor, this is all made up. And then the judge is going to have to be like, well, I guess Donald Trump's just a liar about everything. But is that where we are in a country that the way you keep Ghislaine Maxwell behind bars and not a retrial is to say the word of the President of the United States doesn't matter at all, because just think about the golden ticket he gave her for a retrial. By the way, Donald Trump's chief propagandist, Caroline Levitt was asked during a press conference earlier in the day, would Donald Trump pardon Ghislaine Maxwell? And Caroline Levitt refused to answer the question. She wouldn't rule out whether Donald Trump would ultimately pardon Ghislaine Maxwell. So I just want you all to see what's going on here. And I wanted to lay it out because behind this, when Donald Trump says this is a hoax, there are real victims. There are hundreds, potentially thousands of girls who were raped and sexually assaulted by elite billionaire men. And this is being covered up. And Donald Trump's out there saying it's a hoax. It's all, all of this was a hoax. And not only is Donald Trump burying the files and the list, he shut down the investigation. So there was ongoing criminal investigations taking place. And now the co conspirators who were involved in this, they get a free pass as well. So that's what that gives you the full update of what's happening right now. But, but you know, that is some ghoulish, sick stuff, Brett and Jordy.

Jordy Meiselas (13:13)

And I think that's one of the biggest stories that's really not being reported in that way, Ben. It's that Trump has already let all the people on the so called list off the hook. Like, like he let them off. Folks, this already happened within the past few weeks and nobody is speaking about it like that. Like all these people are like, yeah, but you know, Trump was gonna get justice for all the, you know, for all the victims. No, Trump literally let all those people off the hook. He shut down the investigation. So I think it's important you look into Donald Trump's ties, his documented ties to everybody in this Epstein circle. I mean, you could even look at his administration right now. Ben, mentioned Alex Acosta from the previous administration. But you look right, Donald Trump the other day was speaking about this Epstein issue, and he was going through his. His, you know, lines where he says, I don't understand why this Epstein thing would be of interest to anybody. Only really bad, evil people would care about such a thing. Calling his own, you know, base of people evil. And anybody who cares about this evil and who was standing right next to Donald Trump, right behind Donald Trump, was Howard Lutnick. Howard Lutnick working. Working in the. In the White House right now. The Commerce Secretary. And let me tell you something about Howard Lutnick. Howard Lutnick was Jeffrey Epstein's neighbor in New York City. Not only was Howard Lutnick Jeffrey Epstein's neighbor, just like, coincidentally, he bought his townhome in New York City from Jeffrey Epstein. It was Jeffrey Epstein's former property, or it was Jeffrey Epstein's former property. He had actually bought the place from Lex Wex. Les Wexner, who is the owner of L Brands, who does limited, does bath and body works, and also is the guy who bought Victoria Victoria's Secret. What is. And what was his big thing that Les Wexner did at Victoria's Secret? He started the Victoria's Secret fashion show. He started bringing in the Victoria's Secret models. This was at the time. And Ben has broken this down brilliantly in many pieces. Check it out on the Midas Touch podcast. Check it out on our YouTube channel. Check out what Trump has done at the same time period with Trump models, with all these other modeling agencies with women, and how Epstein and Trump and these people who run these model agencies used these women. Just look through all of Ben's pieces. He's done very deep dives about all of this. Then you look at Pam Pondi, who is the AG in Florida. While a lot of this was going down, all this Epstein stuff was going down. You look at the people who are defending Donald Trump, people who are in Donald Trump's ears, like Alan Dershowitz, who we've spoken about his ties plenty. And he's spoken about his ties to Epstein on his own in. In quite the detail. And he's been accused of many things in these filings. You put this together. It's very clear that Donald Trump is at the center of Epstein Circle. And so the fact that he and his base use this. Use this issue to fan the flames, use this issue to smear his political opponents for so long, knowing that Donald Trump was the central figure in all of this, I mean, how stupid could you be, and how evil could you be to take advantage of all the victims of everything that happened in order to try to help yourself politically in this moment when you know how involved you are? I'm happy that this is all coming back to haunt him. But you could tell this is something that Donald Trump wanted to bury long, long ago. If I were being conspiratorial, I would say, and this is kind of a conspiracy theory, that I believe that the whole QAnon movement, that the whole Trump push from very early on, the whole Save the Children, the whole stuff about child sex trafficking, everything like that, was just to try to push the blame off of Donald Trump and get people looking in another direction. Because the stuff that we are seeing right now is everything we've seen so far is explosive. And it seems like only more is going to come.

Caroline Levitt (16:55)

And that's the really gross part about it, too.

Jordy Meiselas (16:57)

Brad.

Caroline Levitt (16:58)

You talk about how the Trump administration and the Trump regime had weaponized this, you know, during his election and while he was present the first time. It's so gross to me that just at the heart of it, forget your, like, politics aside, as just a person who lives in the society, a person that lives in the United States, don't you want to know the truth? Don't you want a real investigation into this and really, truly understand what's happening? And the guy leading the charge right now, who was BFFs with Jeffrey Epstein, is just nuking the whole thing. Nothing to see here. Nuh, not here. Not today, folks. Look over there. Oh, my supporters who believe this. Y' all are idiots. That's what he says. That's what he says. It's insane.

Brett Meiselas (17:34)

Let me show you two data points. I could show you a lot more, but I'll just, I'll keep it recent and I'll keep it even during the campaign for the presidency, 2004. Circa 2004. So Donald Trump gave a speech in front of the Young Republicans in Manhattan. Young Republicans are high school students and college students. So lots of underage kids are there. Donald Trump was giving the speech to these young Republicans of New York to underage girls and underage boys and college boys and college men and women. And what does Donald Trump talk about in the speech? He talks about how when he would describe how when you are a rich man and you sexually assault women, they let you do it because you are rich. And that's just the way it is. If you're a rich guy, that that is actually locker room talk, that that's how men Speak in locker rooms, and that's what you're supposed to do. He said that a general told him that that was the most brave and courageous thing that the generals ever hold heard. When Donald Trump called sexually assaulting women locker room talk, he goes, that's the most brave and courageous thing. So Trump tells this story about sexually assaulting women and calling it locker room talk to underage girls and underage boys and college boys and girls at a Young Republican event in New York. Watch for yourself. Let's play it.

E (19:12)

But I went onto that stage just a few days later, and a general who's a fantastic general actually said to me, sir, I've been on the battlefield. Men have gone down on my left and on my right, I stood on hills where soldiers were killed. But I believe the bravest thing I've ever seen was the night you went onto that stage with Hillary Clinton after what happened. And then that woman asked you the first question about it. And I said, locker room talk. It's locker room talk. What the hell? What are you talking about? Lack of room talk. That was not a great.

Brett Meiselas (19:50)

He's describing when he talked about sexually assaulting women and grabbing them by their genitals. And you get away with it if you are a rich person. That's what he was talking to underage kids at that keynote event that he spoke at. Or how about you go to a speech that Donald Trump gave in 2024 at a high school in Iowa. This is in a high school in Iowa. Donald Trump brings up the topic of getting peed on, getting urinated on by hookers. And he says that, I don't really like that. That's called a golden shower. He says it's called the golden shower. This is what he's talking about in a high school during the campaign. Here, play this clip.

E (20:32)

He was with four hookers. You think that was good that night, to go up and tell my wife, it's not true. Darling, I love you very much. It's not true. True. Actually, that one she didn't believe because she said, he's a germaphobe. He's not into that. You know, he's not into golden showers, as they say. They call that. He's not. I don't like that idea. No, I didn't. I thought that would be a big problem. I was going to have a rough night. But that one she was very good on. She said.

Brett Meiselas (21:03)

So then I'll connect it also to Virginia Giuffre, remember at the beginning of the show? So she was the Underage girl who was hired to become a towel girl at Trump Spa. And then Ghislaine brought her over to be sex trafficked by Epstein. Here's Virginia Giuffre in connection with the cases, the criminal and civil cases. Here she. I could show you 100 clips of her talking about Mar A Lago, but here, here's one, right?

F (21:29)

I was recruited at a very young age from Mar a Lago at. And entrapped in a world that I didn't understand. And I've been fighting that very world to this day. And I won't stop fighting. I will never be silenced until these.

Brett Meiselas (21:42)

People are brought to justice. And she died by suicide. And now the people are not being brought to justice. And I showed you those other clips, as disturbing as they are. Trump in front of the Young Republicans and Trump at the high school in Iowa, because I made a very big deal about those clips. Clips at the time. And I've always been talking about clips like. But there's hundreds of others that are like that. But those are two exemplars of the situation, which in my own view was. This was never a political thing to me. Like, I just, I never understood and I can never understand how the United States of America as a country has come to allow that what we just, what we even heard yet alone, the Epstein cover up, but just him saying those things in a presidential campaign, you know, has it been that the, you know, the gamification of politics on corporate news, the social media atmosphere, people living on there. How did we lose touch with a basic reality that that is a sick, sick human being saying sick things in the public, that I would not want that human being to be anywhere near my family, anywhere. This guy's not qualified to have a leadership position anywhere. Small business, medium sized, large business, nonprofit. If somebody in a social club, whether you play cards with people that, you know, or, or fantasy football leagues or whatever, just started saying, hey, I like it. I'm like being peed on by hookers. Golden shower, you know, locker room talk.

Jordy Meiselas (23:30)

Grabbing, grabbing people by their genitals.

Brett Meiselas (23:33)

I would, I would get a restraining order against them. I would. I would. Why? Who, who, who is this person? The President of the United States. Sometimes Brett Jordy and Midas. Mighty for me. It's. It's as simple as that. That. Yeah.

Jordy Meiselas (23:47)

And I think, you know, I think there are a lot of organizations and folks who are almost afraid to touch the story for so long because they put this in the conspiracy theory bucket, you know, and, and I think a lot of it is because of like what I was saying earlier in the show about the QAnon and that whole movement that came out of it. But the Epstein stuff that we're talking about, and the only things we're talking about are the undisputed facts of what we have witnessed, what we have seen, what is well documented. We're not veering into any conspiracy theory, theory territory, but there certainly conspiracy by these various groups of people to do what Epstein did. And it is very apparent that Donald Trump in some form or fashion was very tied into what was going on here. And I think the thing you always have to remember, and we know this because of court cases, we know this because of the many accusers, we know this because of Eugene Carroll, that Donald Trump is a sexual predator. That is just a fact of life that we all know. And so I think, what do you, what do you think that Donald Trump was doing when he was with Jeffrey Epstein playing baseball? You think he was, you think he was. They were shooting hoops. I mean, this was a guy who was his best friend. Epstein has said this is from Michael Wolf that Donald Trump slept with Melania for the first time on his jet. I mean, these are people who were not only just acquaintances or close or ran in the same kind of circles of high net worth wealthy people. These were people who were very tied into each other on a very intimate level. They've been described as Trump and Epstein as attached at the head.

Brett Meiselas (25:13)

Hip.

Jordy Meiselas (25:14)

Attached at the hip. And you got to look at the comments before people knew about Epstein's crimes that Trump made, like the one that Ben said earlier about him being into very, you know, young women, I think was the term that he used at the time. But you look at that, that was before anybody knew about Epstein's crimes. You know, all the stuff when Trump starts to say, you know, I actually kicked him out of Mar a Lago and I actually didn't like that guy. He wasn't. That was all after people knew about the crimes. And so I think the stuff before the stu public is a lot more telling than the kind of COVID that Trump is trying to play after the fact. And this attempt to gaslight the public about it from Donald Trump and from some of those kind of paid influencer supporters is pathetic. And it's not fooling anybody.

Brett Meiselas (26:02)

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Caroline Levitt (26:43)

Sorry to jump in there, Ben, but Ask the Editor is quickly becoming one of my favorite segments on the entire network. So definitely grab that membership and check it out because it's well worth it just for that alone.

Brett Meiselas (26:52)

Sorry. We've got a lot more show we're going to be discussing here. I want to talk about the new findings of what we're, what we're learning in Iran. I want to talk about the fact that the Patriot missiles that Donald Trump said he was going to Ukraine is, you know, I'm not, I'm not sure that was an accurate statement that was being made by Donald Trump. Will, will break that down. I to talk about Trump's health, cover up and more. I want to take our first quick break of the show. We will be right back. Saturday, a special edition of the Best People. Nicole Wallace is joined by the hosts of the Midas Touch podcast for a compelling conversation speaking truthfully on on these issues. To me, that's the Midas way. Saturday at 4 on Ms.

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Brett Meiselas (31:08)

Thanks Jordy. I want to share this montage that Nicole Wallace, our friend created about all of the things that Donald Trump has claimed are hoaxes involving him which turn out to be not hoaxes. They're actually things that he's actually involved in. But this Is what he does that the Epstein one, because from the outset he said was real, makes it a little more difficult for him to now say it's a hoax. Because he was the main, you know, he was the main Epstein. He's like the main.

Jordy Meiselas (31:40)

And everyone around, Don Jr. Charlie, Kirk, the whole administrator, Bongino, Cash, Patel, like they were all the Epstein people. They were the ones who were pushing all this, this stuff. And then he goes, oh, no. It started by Democrats. It started by Comey. It started by this person, by that. It's like, okay, bro.

Brett Meiselas (31:56)

And then he fires the lead prosecutor, Comey's daughter, Maureen Comey, anyway.

Jordy Meiselas (32:00)

Screams innocence.

Brett Meiselas (32:01)

Screams absolutely screams innocence. All right, let's. Let me show you this, this montage that Nicole put together.

E (32:08)

So Obama's talking about all of this with the global warming and that, and a lot of it's a hoax. It's a hoax. They didn't know what to say, so they made up the whole Russia hoax. Now it's turning out that the hoax has turned around a brilliant jurist, a man that did nothing wrong, a man that was caught up in a hoax that was set up by the Democrats. I think we had a tremendous week with the hoax, you know, the great hoax, the. They call it the impeachment hoax. Now the Democrats are politicizing the, the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. There is nobody that feels more strongly about our soldiers, our wounded warriors, our soldiers that died in war, than I do. It's a hoax. With this unhinged insurrection hoax that we're all going through now, but with this insurrection hoax that they're doing. But the insurrection hoax, the radical Democrats are putting our country into a two tiered system of justice because the public understands it's a hoax, it's a scam, it's a political witch hunt. I call it the Epstein hoax. Takes a lot of time and effort.

F (33:25)

One of these things is different than the other. While he's employed that strategy of crying hoax the great political fact in the past, this time it doesn't appear to be working.

Brett Meiselas (33:35)

I don't even understand how any of that worked in the past. How like, like one of the fundamental things, I guess not being in the Trump MAGA cult and not like watching a lot of cable news or not like whatever. Like I fundamentally. He seemed. He's the stupidest person. Like I watch the biggest idiot right there, who's clearly a criminal, who's clearly a sexual abuser, who's clearly A bankrupter who's lying about everything. And I just, I can't even understand. And this may be my frustration and the existential reason for my existence. I just, I can't even understand how anybody looks at that any. No matter. And goes, that's raises some good points. Crazy. We're literally watching a crazy person. We'll show you in a little bit on the show. He like came up with a story this week when he was in Pittsburgh that his uncle teaches the Unabomber at mit. Like, like that didn't even happen.

Jordy Meiselas (34:34)

Whatever.

Brett Meiselas (34:35)

Who even makes up like Susan, who makes things up like that, you know, oh, you know the Hannibal Lecter have, you know, the Hannah Balakta, the late, great Hannibalecta, my friend.

Jordy Meiselas (34:44)

I'm like, what the hell are we even talking about?

Brett Meiselas (34:46)

What, what is this?

Jordy Meiselas (34:48)

And I would wish that, you know, his supporters who know that he's so obviously bullshitting about the Epstein stuff. I would wish that they would be able to say, oh, maybe all those other things that he said are hoaxes, just like he's saying this hoax. Maybe he was lying to me then as well. But don't worry, don't worry, guys. I'm not going to hold my breath on that one. But this definitely seems to be breaking through. That was a great montage by Nicole Wallace, by the way. You may have, if you're listening during the break, we're going to be on the show this weekend, Saturday 4pm they're going to play our episode with her on MSNBC. So definitely check it out. Set your DVRs. That's exciting. So definitely check that out. But yeah, I mean, this is, come on. Everything's such an obvious cover up with him and this is the most defensive that I've seen him be yet.

Brett Meiselas (35:30)

So you got to have the propaganda network, state, regime, media, Fox, which is like worse than even what Kim Jong Un's got in North Korea or Putin's got. So they bring on this lawyer, John Yu. And John, you, you know, he's dressed up. He sounds like a very serious guy. You know, I think that we need to be focusing on the auto pen. Biden's auto pen. That's the real scandal.

Jordy Meiselas (35:51)

I think.

Brett Meiselas (35:52)

I'm like, watch this. I'm like, I'm like, these are crazy humans. What do you mean? The auto pen? Every former president Donald Trump, everyone uses an auto pen to sign. What's this? What are we talking about? You have Donald Trump covering up involvement in its sex trafficking ring or we need to focus on the auto pen Here, play this clip. If you care about the Constitution and the rule law. Trump is right. The auto pen is way more serious than Jeffrey Epstein, because you could have a series of aides here who seized the power of the presidency and used it for their own purposes. You can't have an aide exercising the constitutional power of pardon or the decision not to prosecute people. And so they could have committed forgery. They could have committed fraud. I expect the Justice Department has already opened an investigation, and they just don't want to say, investigation into what? What are you even talking about? What are these crazy humans like? That's how I watch. I'm like, what are these people saying?

Caroline Levitt (36:46)

It's just complete. Like, when you're looking at that, you're just. It's complete fan fiction when you turn on that channel at times. Oh, not at times when you turn on that channel because it's, it's, it's complete lunacy. Ben, you're so right.

Jordy Meiselas (36:57)

It's alternate reality. It's completely designed to just distract. And I don't always buy into the belief that, oh, this is a distraction for that. This is a distraction for that. People are always telling me, anytime there's a new story, oh, he bombed Iran because he wanted to get the heat off this. Oh, but he did that because he wanted to get the heat off this. And sometimes it's true. This time it's definitely true. Okay, like, this is like the most obvious attempt. This he's trying to do. The auto pen scandal, Everything that comes out now with Trump is just, you have to realize this Epstein thing is really the thing that he has been terrified of. This is like the chickens coming home to roost after decades and decades and decades. The stuff that he never wanted to see surface, the things that he wanted to bury in the past along with Jeffrey Epstein, I guess they are coming home right now. And now he is paying the price.

Brett Meiselas (37:44)

So we've been seeing the discoloration on Donald Trump's hand. He wears this makeup all over his hand, and we've seen his ankles kind of swell up and, and balloon. And see the diet come. The, the Diet Coke is totally helpful given this condition. But now, after being called out and this, we all see it. Caroline Levitt. Trump's propaganda says he's diagnosed with chronic venous insufficiency following leg swelling. But the way they frame it is this is just what happens when you have your, when you have, when you shake so many hands and you take aspirin for all those hearty handshakes. That, that's, that's all this is. So first state, regime, media, Fox, they bring on this guest who he goes, I've shaken this man's hand. That's definitely what caused it. You play it.

E (38:38)

That's not serious. It's completely benign. It's cosmetic. And it's expected from a man in his late 70s who's standing on his feet all the time. And to your point about shaking hand, her point about shaking hands, Carolyn Levitt says, look, I, he's on an aspirin. He shakes a lot of hands. I've shaked the man's hand. He gives a very vigorous handshake.

Brett Meiselas (38:57)

I'm a doctor. I'm Dr. Mark Siegel. I've shaken the man's hand. That man gives a vigorous handshake. That's my diagnosis is vigorous hand shake. Itis. You know, you go and you look at Trump's medical report and it's like his health is clearly evidenced. I swear to you, it says this by winning all of the golf championships regularly. That's literally in the ridiculous medical thing that he released. By the way, where are those files from Butler, Pennsylvania, regarding the incident that took place there? Although those, those never got released. So then you have Caroline Levitt. I'll show you how she talks about it during the press conference today. She's just like, it's from lots of handshakes and aspirin. Here's what she says.

F (39:40)

Let's play it on another note, I know that many in the media have been speculating about bruising on the President's hand and also swelling in the President's legs. So in the effort of transparency, the President wanted me to share a note from his physician with all of you today. In recent weeks, President Trump noted mild swelling in his lower legs. In keeping with routine medical care and out of an abundance of caution, this concern was thoroughly evaluated by the White House Medical Unit. The President underwent a comprehensive examination, including diagnostic vascular studies, bilateral lower extremity venous Doppler ultrasounds were performed and revealed chronic venous insufficiency, a benign and common condition, particularly in individuals over the age of 70. Importantly, there was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis or arterial disease. Laboratory testing included a complete blood count, comprehensive metabolic panel, coagulation profile, D dimer, B type, natriotic peptide, and cardiac biomarkers. All results were within normal limits. An echocardiogram was also performed and confirmed normal cardiac structure and function. No signs of heart failure, renal impairment or syst Systemic illness were identified. Additionally, recent photos of The President have shown minor bruising on the back of his hand. This is consistent with minor soft tissue irritation from frequent handshaking and the use of aspirin, which is taken as part of a standard cardiovascular prevention regimen. This is a well known and benign side effect of aspirin therapy. And the President remains in excellent health, which I think, think all of you witness on a daily basis here. So the President wanted me to share that note with all of you.

Caroline Levitt (41:32)

You just get the sense too when you're, I mean like, like what in the Kim Jong Un, North Korea are we watching here? I mean, we have eyes. This, this is, this is some serious stuff that, like that they're trying to just conceal and you can, that that's why when, like he released these bizarro medical reports, you know, pre election and when he was president, like you really had to dig in and you really had to question, is this legitimate? Because, because of just how like inflated they make this stuff. The guy's an excellent help. The guy's severely overweight. Like, let's not like, why are we, why are we, why are we like making, why are we trying to be, why are we cuddling this individual? It's just so ridiculous.

Jordy Meiselas (42:11)

Speaking of inflated, this wouldn't have come out if we didn't see Donald Trump's inflated ankles game and people speaking about it. Like, Ben, I know you did multiple videos where you highlighted that. I don't think I saw that on the news once until these questions were asked. I think the attention that was brought on those, on those photos finally caused somebody in the press to ask about this and they were kind of forced to answer. And you know, you have to look through this also. Is this a distraction from the other stuff? Well, we're not going to get, we're not going to stop talking about the Epstein stuff, so good luck. But what I think this is representative of is yet another cover up. I mean, and if you look at the condition, she says it quickly and she says it in the middle of all that other bullshit that she says where she talks about handshakes and aspirin and great health and da, da, da, da, da. She's still doing the Kim Jong Un propaganda stuff, Jordy, but she said there that he has chronic venous insufficiency. And if you look up what that is, it's a condition where veins have trouble sending blood from the legs back to the heart, which is often due to damaged valves, which could lead to blood pooling in the legs, causing various symptoms and complications. It's a non fatal condition, but it's a condition, if not treated properly, can lead to deadly consequences. And if you look at the stages, a chronic phase, which is what they said Donald Trump has, means that he is at least stage three. Three. And with Donald Trump's condition, it's probably, you know, even greater than that because I could read to you right now, stage three is swelling is present, often accompanied by varicose veins. She said he's chronic. That means he's at least stage three. Stage four is skin changes occur, including alterations in color, hyperpigmentation or texture. And then it has a bunch of medical phrases after that. And we see that in his hands, we see that on his body and we see him trying to cover it up. Stage five says a healed venous ulcer is present. And so we could see just by looking at Donald Trump that he's at least stage three, maybe stage four on this thing, which means that it didn't just pop up. And which leads you to believe, you know, what are, what else are they hiding in these reports? And they were clearly felt the need to get this out maybe as an attempt to distract from the Epstein stuff, but also because they were kind of cornered the same way they're cornered with the Epstein story. They were cornered with these photos of Donald Trump, which are quite the image to look at for audio listeners when you see, I mean, his ankles are the size of, I don't even know watermelons like these things. And, and at a certain point they had nothing else but to come out with something. And that's what they came up with. You just wonder what else is Donald Trump hiding about his health? As Ben said, we still haven't seen the reports from Butler. We still, every time we get Donald Trump's reports, it reads like a Kim Jong un. This is the greatest human who's going to live to 300 years old sort of thing. And so when you don't have the facts, you can only speculate, but the facts are coming out slowly but surely.

Brett Meiselas (44:53)

Right? So you have Donald Trump, he then goes to Pittsburgh where he gives this speech where he says that he's brought in, what's it, 15 to $17 trillion from his trip in the Middle east. Again, which is a total lie. The entire GDP of the United Arab Emirates is like $450 billion. The entire GDP of Qatar is $150 billion. So he just makes up stories like that. And, and by the way, I think I should mention this here also. Do you notice how people aren't Even talking about the flash flood in Texas anymore. And the fact that the, that FEMA didn't have their urban search and rescue team activated in 72 hours. And the fact that it was a four minute walk for the young girls who lost their lives. They could have went up to God Mountain is what it's called. It's called God Mountain. And been able to evacuate. Or the fact that the key vacancies were there. How about the fact that they were still, still so many people missing. Still to this day, there are so many people missing. I mean, it is, it is, it is horrifying. So they're not talking about that anymore. But Donald Trump decides to bring up the fact that his uncle was a professor at MIT and, and ran and like, no one asked him a question. Like, hey, Donald, we've been hearing that Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, he was talking about Ted. Because we've been hearing that Ted Kaczynski may have been in your uncle's class.

Jordy Meiselas (46:19)

Class.

Brett Meiselas (46:20)

Can you comment on that? I mean, he's there ostensibly to lie about the disastrous budget bill and lie about all the money that's being brought into Pennsylvania, which, which it's not that that was the pretext, I think, you know, of this trip, among other things. But then on his own, he starts just bringing up that the Unabomber was in his uncle's class and his uncle was a professor at mit. But the Unabomber didn't even go to mit. Couldn't have gone to MIT during that. Like, what, what's going on here? Why? And again, if you have people in your family or, you know, people who have dementia, they do stuff like this. I'm not saying Trump does. I'm just saying this is the type of thing that someone does, you know, like this here, you play this clip of Donald Trump saying, permits, and I.

E (47:07)

Have to take you. I have to brag just for a second, because when I first heard about AI, you know, it's not my thing. Although my uncle was at MIT. One of the great professors, 51 years, whatever. He was longest serving professor in the history of MIT. 3 degrees in nuclear, chemical and math. That's a smart man. Kaczynski was one of his students. Do you know who Kaczynski was? There's very little difference between a madman and a genius. But Kaczynski, I said, what kind of a student would he, he. Uncle John, Dr. John Trump, he said, what kind of a student, man? He said, seriously good. He said he'd correct. He'd go around correcting everybody, but it didn't work out too well for him. Didn't work out too well, but it's interesting.

Brett Meiselas (47:54)

Okay, now, first off, what does that have to do with AI number one? What is his uncle's role at MIT have anything to do with that? And then on his own, he's bringing up the unibody bomber, who was not in his uncle's class. Couldn't have been based on the time frame. Nor did Kaczynski. Went to Harvard and went to University of Michigan. What kind of story is. What kind of deranged situation is this? And I know that's kind of one of those things also, you know, Brett and Jordy that, you know, I'll show you when we get back. You know what? You know, a reporter asks about it, but it's one of those things, too, that, like, when we find out what 18 months from now that they were, was like, you know, issues, right? And everyone's like, oh, my God, this was a. We didn't see it coming. I'm like, the guy was in Pennsylvania talking about Ted Kaczynski being in it. What are you talking about? Like, like, like he was campaigning and talking about getting pissed on by hookers and that. He doesn't like it. Like, like, that wasn't. That wasn't like a thing he said. I goes, that couldn't have happened because I don't like it. Like, did you hear he was in front of young Republicans saying that it's courageous. Locker room talk to brag about sexually assaulting. He's saying it.

Jordy Meiselas (49:11)

He's Jake, Jake. Jake Tapper. We're doing you a favor here, buddy. Start writing that book.

Caroline Levitt (49:16)

Got your next book, bud.

Jordy Meiselas (49:18)

Get a jump start.

Brett Meiselas (49:19)

All right, let's take our last quick break of the show. When we come back, I want to talk about some other issues that corporate news is not talking about at all. I want to talk about out. You know that meeting earlier this week between Donald Trump and Mark Rut, the Secretary General of NATO, which had this big announcement. Oh, Trump's. Trump's gonna help Ukraine? Nah, he's just doing Putin's bidding. He literally is executing on Putin's plan. Like, wake up. Stop reporting on what he says. Watch what he's actually doing. I want to talk about that. I want to show you these three clips that I think perfectly piece together just what a sellout the Republican Party is. You're going to want to. You're not, you're not going to want to miss that. That and more. Let's take our last quick break of the show, but I want to remind everybody, become a member now. If you can gift as many people as you can memberships, it helps our network and our YouTube channel grow. We're an independent media network. It goes a long way and the memberships have been super, super helpful. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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Brett Meiselas (52:56)

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Caroline Levitt (52:57)

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Brett Meiselas (53:08)

I want to show you what's not being reported on in American media. And I think it's something that's so important. First, I want to show you what Donald Trump said on the Tarp Mac when he was asked this week about Patriot missiles going to Ukraine. Remember that was the big announcement that Donald Trump's going to let the Patriot missiles go to Ukraine. Well, let's be clear. 30 Patriot missiles were supposed to go to Ukraine. Congress appropriated the money for it under the Biden administration. Biden promised it to Ukraine, Congress promised it to Ukraine. And then the Trump regime withheld the things that they were supposed to. So then they limited it to like 17 or 16 Patriot missiles. Like they said it was going to be less. But then they also kind of confused and muddled the situation. Is that going to be existing ones? Is it already on the way? Are you going to force Naito to buy it from the United States? There's no clarity like what the policy is. But I'll just, I'll show you what Donald Trump said on the tarmac. He said that the first Patriot missiles for Ukraine are already being delivered. He says, and he says Germany has it, Germany's exchanging it, and Germany's already done it. So first, let me show you what Donald Trump said. Here, play this clip.

E (54:24)

They're already being shipped from what countries? Coming in from Germany and then replaced by Germany. And in all cases, the United States gets paid back in full.

Brett Meiselas (54:33)

Have you started?

E (54:34)

What's happening, as you know, is the European Union, if you look mostly European unions out there, but let's put it in the form of NATO. It's very similar. But NATO is going to pay us back for everything. In some cases, we're going to be paid back by countries of the European Union.

Brett Meiselas (54:52)

So in other words, in order to get this deal done, they had to convince Donald Trump and try to make it transactional that it would have to be Europe buying it from the United States and giving it to Ukraine. But you heard Donald Trump say that Germany's already picked, picked it up, right? You heard him say that and is giving it to Ukraine. Now, our corporate news here in the United States will run with that headline, right? Like the headline becomes it's being sent to Ukraine. The reality is very different. So we at the Midas Touch network watch German news because I want to hear what they're saying in Germany. So I, I did a take on this as well, and it's part of a series of videos I do where I focus on Internet national news. Here's what the German Defense Minister Pistorius had to say. He showed up into the United States to say, okay, let's get these missiles. Let's go. All right, so he, so he shows up and he has to meet with Pete Hegseth, former Fox host, now Secretary of Defense. We made this in AI.

Jordy Meiselas (55:58)

Let me just dig it up for a second, Ben, if that's okay.

Brett Meiselas (56:01)

All right, you dig that up, Brett, but you'll hear the German voice in AI. AI. But, but, but we will, we will knock that out. While Brett's digging that up, I want to talk about. The State Department is gutting its office combating human sex trafficking. So at the same time, Trump is covering up the Epstein files as part of the layoffs to the State Department. About 1300 positions or so in the State Department being removed. One of the key offices that have been targeted was the office to mock monitor and combat trafficking in persons, known as TIP. For 25 years, the TIP, the TIP office has worked to combat human, sex and labor trafficking around the world. And it releases reports, it works with other countries and how to identify international sex trafficking. And so they're doing that at the same time that is happening. We learned that the new U.S. assessment, assessment in Iran has found that the American strikes. I talked about this a little earlier, but let me repeat it again. Only destroyed one of the three facilities. And as you go into the article, it says that Donald Trump was briefed on the plan about how to strike and make sure you knocked out all of the facilities. But it was rejected because it was at odds with corporations. Quote, Donald Trump's foreign policy instincts to extract the United States from conflicts abroad and not dig deeper into them, as well as the possibility of a high number of casualties on both sides. One of the current officials and one of the former officials said, and by the way, I'm glad that it was not a high casualty event. I don't really understand what the hell was happening at all, frankly, over there, as things were, were precipitously escalated, in my view, by the United States and Israel after we, all of our intelligence showed that Iran was not going to be able to imminently get a nuclear weapon. I would never want Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I certainly do not think that the ayatollah, you know, I think the ayatollah is, is, is a mad person. And, you know, but at the same time, we have experience when it comes to, comes to what regime change looks like, what it means to get involved in a war. So what Donald Trump did was engage in a symbolic strike, kind of, you know, just, just for show to claim obliteration and then actually weaken the United States's position by allowing Iran to strengthen its relationship with Russia. And Russia gets its Shahid drone from Iran that Russia uses to kill the innocent Ukrainians. One of Russia's most powerful weapons in the war are the drones from Iran. And it also strengthens China's hand purchasing the oil from Iran. So Iran came out of this the big winner. America achieved no geopolitical goals and America alienated itself further amongst the NATO allies and others. So going back to the German defense minister, here he is. His voice is. His voice is translated into English by AI. It was originally in German, but listen to what he says. It's a good translation. Let's play.

Caroline Levitt (59:31)

The new regulation stipulates that the US Will produce the weapons for Ukraine. The European NATO partners will pay for them, including Germany. What kind of scale are we talking about here? Is this about more than the three Patriot systems that have been discussed since so far?

Brett Meiselas (59:46)

Today we talked about the full range.

Caroline Levitt (59:48)

Of possible deliveries from the U.S. what is clear, and President Trump announced this today's, that the US Will not pay for this. Instead, the Europeans will have to do so. But we've known that for quite some time. But I prefer that the United States is involved rather than not, because they simply have production capacities and can deliver.

Brett Meiselas (60:08)

Systems that we don't have.

Caroline Levitt (60:10)

And that's why this signal is the right one. And what exactly will be worked out in the coming weeks will be developed and determined by working groups that will convene very quickly. This will move quickly, and it has to move quickly because Ukraine needs further support, especially in the area of air defense. Since you mentioned the full Range that was discussed. What is actually on your wish list? But are there also other weapon systems you would like to purchase besides Patriots? We have agreed to remain silent on that until it is clear what results will come out in the next few weeks. But I'm sure you understand that discussing this publicly right now would be the wrong approach. We want to become less predictable in what we do and not discuss everything in public forums.

Brett Meiselas (60:51)

Okay? Now, the terms of the deal to even get the Patriot missiles will not be done for the next few weeks yet alone. The missiles themselves. Now, you heard Donald Trump say in the other clip that we played for you the other day that Germany already has them. They're already being given. This is one of my points. The guy just lies about literally everything, everything, everything, everything. So I want to go to this other area too, because I want to talk about the, you know, the theme is the COVID ups here. So I want to talk about the MAGA Republican cover ups. We've talked a lot about Alligator concentration camps in Florida, other concentration camps that Trump is sending migrants to, how Trump's revoked tps, the temporary protected status from Cubans and Venezuelans and Haitians and, and all of these groups that former President Biden protected. So I think these three clips I'm about to show you sums everything up about where the Republican Party is, where Trump is, and the corrosive nature just of this, of everything, you know, right here. So a MAGA Republican Congresswoman Salazar from South Florida, she's Cuban. Her parents fled Castro. She's one of the big Cubans for Trump supporters. Her district represents the largest, one of the largest Cuban populations, if not the largest in the country. Country. And so she also supports something called the Dignity act that she's authored. And when she was asked during the 2024 campaign about Donald Trump's threats of mass deportation, she would say, dignity Act. Dignity Act. She goes, I've been promised by Donald Trump, he's only going after the criminals. He supports the Dignity Act. And then after the election, she was asked, hey, you know, they keep on saying mass deportation. So are you worried that they're going to target people who are not criminals? People have been living here for a long time. Are you worried? So Congressman Salazar here is on pbs, which by the way, is part of the rescission package that MAGA Republicans want to destroy and defund pbs. And here you had a great PBS reporter asking MAGA Republican, the Cuban Congresswoman Salazar, basic questions. You sure? You sure about that? You sure, you sure about that? Watch what she says. Then back on November 11th, play this clip. Not all 200,000 undocumented in your community.

Jordy Meiselas (63:24)

Is that what you're saying?

Ben Meiselas (63:26)

I am sure that we're not. That the Trump administration is not going to be targeting those people who have been here for more than five years, that have American kids, that don't have criminal records, that have been working in the economy and paying taxes. I am sure that they're going to hone in on the criminals who arrived less than four years ago. Because I wrote the Dignity act and I am the first one who understands that you have to give some type of dignity to those who have been here for more than five years, people who have roots in the country, not people who are coming to commit crimes.

Jordy Meiselas (63:57)

If I can just clarify from you, have you received those kinds of details from anyone in a potential Trump administration? Because so far what we've heard is.

Brett Meiselas (64:05)

Proposal for mass deportations. You have about 30 seconds left.

Jordy Meiselas (64:08)

Have you gotten those assurances?

Ben Meiselas (64:10)

Mass deportation to those who are committing crimes, who have been here for less than five years. You understand that you have millions of undocumented who are contributing with the economy and are helping our country to be.

Brett Meiselas (64:25)

Okay, well, that didn't happen. Okay, so now we're in July, July 17th. And so she's in 20, interviewed. There's concentration camps now. Cubans, Venezuelans, Haitians, Mexicans are being targeted. Her people, Cubans. Right, are being targeted right now. They're being sent back to Cuba. They're being sent back to the authoritarian regimes that they fled. Their lives are in jeopardy. Families are being ripped apart. Okay, so are you going to acknowledge that he lied to you or are you just going to pretend that it didn't happen? Here's what she says. July 17th. Let's play it.

Ben Meiselas (65:03)

There's no way we can grow as a country and continue being the number one economy in the world if we don't have hands, period. So let's be intelligent. Let's just bring them out of the shadows, make them pay something that they're not paying right now. Make them pay a fine. No federal programs. And they can go home for Christmas and they can buy a home. And with the bbb, the economy is going to is going to burst just like it happened in 2019. I go back to the president. The president is the guy who can make this happen. There is no other president like Trump. Look what he did with Iran, look what he did to Venezuela with China. So I have no doubt, I have faith that he could be for immigration with Lincoln was for slavery. And Reagan was for communism. Just watch him. Okay, well, we'll see how it goes. I hope that you'll come back and tell us how this moves along, as you mentioned.

Brett Meiselas (65:51)

Well, what has he done for. Excuse me, what has he done for Venezuela? Didn't they threaten to invade Puerto Rico? I know our corporate news doesn't talk about that. What is he done for China? Strengthen them. Their GDP is growing at like 6%. They're like the most popular and powerful country in the world right now that everyone wants to do deals. They look like a more stable force compared to the United. Weaken us to China. What am I, what have we done with Iran? Strengthened Iran? I mean, what in the world are we in the Kim Jong Un are we talking about? Then she's like, he'll be like Lincoln, he'll be like Reagan. He's sending your people, people to concentration camps. And she's just using the same line about the Dignity act that she used in November, as though a time period hasn't passed where he's revoked the temporary protected status of her people and is literally killing them. Like, what are we talking about here? So, so surely if Donald Trump is a supporter of the Cuban people and Salazar, I at least assume that he's read the Dignity act, that he's aware of this legislation that she was talking about back in November and before the election and then pretending that she's just introducing it now once again, I'm sure, right. That he's, he's read the thing and they're taking it seriously. Caroline, tell us.

F (67:10)

First on Congress, Congresswoman Salazar introduced legislation that would give some illegal immigrants in the country path to citizenship. To 10 Republicans signed on to what she's calling the Dignity Act. I'm curious what the White House's position is on the legislation and if the President would veto this bill. That needed to discuss. From my understanding, the White House nor the President has actually read through this legislation. We've been focused on, of course, the one big beautiful bill which passed, which is another historic accomplishment of this president in record time. The Genius act this week, the rescissions package, that's been the focus of the White House. But the President has made it very clear he will not support amnesty for illegal aliens in any way.

Brett Meiselas (67:49)

He hasn't even read the Dignity act. And they have no clue what it is. No, I mean, this is where for me just, it's just a little bit baffling to me. So if you're like Salazar or you're a Cuban in her district and you go and because you hear this all the time in Little Havana, you know, know what, I don't like his policies on immigration, but when it comes to some of the other stuff, I think I identify more with him. Let me, so just let me try to sort through this with you. So Biden supported your temporary protected status that allowed you to live thriving lives with you and your family members here and provided a potential pathway to citizenship for family members and kept families together. On the one hand, unless, on the one hand, I'm just trying to understand this. On the other hand, Donald Trump is sending you back to the authoritarian regime your parents and grandparents fled in Cuba, has revoked your temporary protected status, is throwing your people into concentration camps where they can't even access lawyers. But there are all these other issues that are out there. But you're going to, you're going to introduce the Dignity Act. And so I, I, I guess it's all good. I guess it's all good. Doesn't that, doesn't those three clips, Brett and Jordy just kind of sum it up? And I watch this and I'm like, what, what am I watching there? He hates you, Salazar, he hates your people. It's not, he hates the Cubans, he hates the Mexicans, he hates the venue. You don't see it like, you don't, you don't see it.

Jordy Meiselas (69:28)

And for someone like that to come to power, you know, essentially, you know, calling somebody like a President Biden, you know, like a communist, comparing them to dictators who the people in her community have, have fled. And then when Donald Trump is actually doing the things that the dictators in these countries have done, she turns a blind eye to it and tries to act like it's all good, like it's just throwing your people under the bus in the most cynical and worst way. It's such a disgrace. It's so disgusting to watch. And I wish the people at least would rise up and oust these people from office and say, you know what, Enough is enough. I'm not going to take this treatment, I'm not going to take this gaslighting anymore. But that force of gaslighting is so incredibly powerful. Powerful. And that's why they have these networks. That's why there is, you know, Fox that's pumping that stuff. That's why she's going on to Fox. That's why the COVID ups always end up going through Fox because they package it up as news. They package it up as, these are the facts, these are the trustworthy voices. This is the news Set. These are the Chirons. This is news you could trust. We got Fox Business. Here are the stocks. Here are the this. And they, they delude the people into believing that what they are watching is the real deal when it's just to cover for, you know, historically Republicans, but specifically right now, Donald Trump and everything that Donald Trump wants to hide from the public or try to, you know, push forward Donald Trump's agenda and this kind of Project 2025 agenda that we've been seeing put into, put into motion every single day.

Caroline Levitt (70:50)

And that's why it's just so weak what you see out of these, you know, Republican politicians right now as well. Unless, unless you don't pledge 1000% of your loyalty behind Donald, behind Donald Trump, you're not a Republican. Like, you're just not a Republican in 2025. You know, your people be damned. You, you see Salazar right there talking about, and she's like, what? Like what? Genuinely, what are you saying? Because he's done everything. Donald Trump has done everything opposite of what you're trying to. I don't speak into reality. It's just never going to happen. Please, just open your eyes. It's insane.

Brett Meiselas (71:23)

I couldn't agree more with you, Jordy. And we'll leave it at that. For this episode of the Midas Touch podcast, we covered a lot of topics indeed. Make sure you keep checking the Midas Touch YouTube channel every 90 minutes or so for the latest updated content. Check out midasplus.com as well for our substack. I'm sure many of you been seeing me sitting on this chair now for hours at a time. I've been cleared by my doctor that I could sit for significant periods of time, which is good. Which means next week we're going to do our Patreon documentary for Patreon. So next Thursday, I want to give people enough time to prepare for it. After our show next Thursday, Thursday, we're going to hold a meeting and we'll do a state of the Midas Touch address. You can ask us questions on Patreon. So if you go to patreon.com Midas Touch and you want to watch that address and ask us questions, it's usually a smaller, more intimate environment, but you definitely want to make sure you subscribe now. If it gets too big, we may have to figure out what we do with it with all the people in the zoom. So make sure you subscribe right now if you can, to Patreon Midas Touch. Brett, why don't we just show also the Nicole Wallace teaser one more time. They do a good job. I like the way they prepare that. So this weekend we're going to be featured with Nicole Wallace on Saturday. Let's just play that trailer one more time. Saturday, a special edition of the Best People. Nicole Wallace is joined by the hosts of the Midas Touch podcast for a compelling conversation speaking truthfully on on these issues. To me, that's the Midas way Saturday at 4 on MSNBC. By the way, if you saw how crooked I was there in the did you, did you notice that I was because I literally couldn't sit.

Jordy Meiselas (73:09)

That's why I was at the height of your back pain too.

Caroline Levitt (73:11)

And I think we start off in the conversation there.

Jordy Meiselas (73:14)

I says, and Nicole, Ben's hopped up on whatever he needs right now. So I'm warning you, this could get into some interesting territory. So you're not going to want to miss it. Make sure you check it out. Set your DVD TVRs Saturday, 4pm Eastern Time on MSNBC. It's going to be fun.

Brett Meiselas (73:31)

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Caroline Levitt (74:56)

Shout out to the Midas.

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Brett Meiselas (75:06)

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Caroline Levitt (75:16)

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