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Brett
In other words, these are, to quote myself from the last episode, very bad, very evil people that we're dealing with. It's great to be here, Ben. It's great to be here, Jordy. Great to be here. Everybody watching here live on YouTube and everybody listening on Apple podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts, make sure you check the show out on the audio podcast. But, yeah, I mean, you know, we didn't need the last few days to tell us this, but folks, you have to understand, like, the people we're dealing with are, Are not on the up and up, okay? They're not playing by any sort of rules. They're not honest brokers. They will always defend the worst human beings. They will do anything to protect Donald Trump, even if that means getting the back, having the back of a literal convicted sex trafficker and believing the sex trafficker over the actual victims. I mean, some of the things I've seen in the past few days in particular, have just disgusted me. I am just aghast at what I have witnessed. And it's just so appalling. And there are so many lies and so many different things that I know it's tempting. And a lot of people, you know, will say, why are you focusing on this? Why are you focusing on Donald Trump's health? Isn't that a distraction from the Epstein files? Why you focus on the deployments? Can't you see that's a distraction from the Epstein files? Why are you focusing on the Epstein files? Can't you see that's a distraction from the military deployments? And listen, not everything is a distraction.
Benji
I want.
Brett
I want to say that sometimes you just got to understand that we're dealing with really shitty human beings who do a lot of really shitty things every single day. And so we have to do our best, all of us, to cover all the bad things that are happening. Because a military takeover and invasion of our states, yes, that is a big deal. Okay? The Epstein file, the COVID up, the having the back, the giving cushy treatment to someone like Ghislaine Maxwell, that is a big deal. Donald Trump's deteriorating health, that we see. Yes, that is a big deal. And there are so many more stories. Russia, Ukraine, what's happening in Gaza, these are all incredibly big deals. One is not a distraction from the other. But we need to stay focused on all of them. And we could walk and chew gum at the same time. That's what we're going to work to do our best on, on this show and in all the reports that you see throughout the day on The Midas Touch YouTube Chann channel and the Midas Touch podcast feed. Jordy, great to be here with you. What's the latest on your end?
Jordy
Great to be here. Shout out to the Midas Mighty. What's up, everybody? Thanks for joining tonight. Thanks for listening on audio. If you're an audio listener. Excited to get into today's show. We have a lot to, a lot to cover. Ben, that was a great layout of, of this episode. So, you know, let's just get ready here, folks, because there's a lot of ground to cover. And as Brett mentioned, you know, everywhere, every place, all at once, we could walk and chew gum at the same time. Right? Just because he's doing something shitty here doesn't mean we have to ignore all the shitty and craziness that's happening over here in the exact opposite direction. I know the Midas Mighty appreciates that. I know our audience here appreciates that because we're here to call it out every step of the way and leave no stone left unturned. Benji, where do you want to start off today?
Benji
Well, you know when Donald Trump tells the story about the snake, how the snake sneaks in and the woman nurses the snake to health and the snake bites and kills the woman, Donald Trump tells that story as an anti immigrant story. One of the very first videos that we did at the Midas Touch Network when we were first formed over five years ago was saying that Trump is the snake, and he absolutely is. But like the snake in that story, Donald Trump doesn't go out and say, I'm the snake. Right? And we're seeing that right now. So to the extent there are distractions, the common thread here is that Trump and his MAGA sycophants are not out there saying, hey, look, we're fascists, we're dictators, we're trying to destroy the Constitution. When that's exactly what they're doing. Instead, they steal the symbolism of our country. They use the language of democracy, they use the words of patriotism, they pump it through corporate media, which is now oligarch led media at this point. And then they try to brainwash the masses into embracing this, or at the very least both sides in the issues while their fascist creep continues. And before you know it, we look like Nazi Germany. And then when you say that, then the corporate news and the Trump regime leading the charge goes, oh my God, you're comparing us to Hitler, you're comparing us to the Nazi. How Dare you say that you're using the words authoritarian. Aren't you getting a little bit alarmist here? That's not really what's happening. No, it is happening. And we at the Midas Touch Network have always used that language fearlessly, unapologetically to refer to this regime. And it is great now that we're finally seeing a little late, but great that we're seeing governors saying this is what it is, this is fascism, and calling out the media also. I've been noticing that a lot lately as well. I mean, we saw Governor Gavin Newsom, I think, leading the way in California, which if it was a country, would be the fourth largest economy in the world. And just think about it this way. California gives to the federal government $80 billion more than it takes, or a red state like Texas takes 70 to $75 billion more than it gives to the federal government. And you look across the United States, these red states have far higher crime rates, have the worst education, are the worst places for business, are literally bankrupt states. But for the blue states that are funding and subsidizing the existence of the taker red states, and for a while you'd have blue state governors just saying, ah, what's going on in these red states? This language is such nonsense. People aren't going to believe it, just ignore it. But when you ignore it, the big lies become reality. So now we're seeing whether it's Governor Newsom, whether, whether it's Governor Pritzker in Illinois, whether it's Governor Walls in Minnesota, whether it's Governor Westmore in Maryland, whether it's Governor Hochul in New York. I could continue and go down. There's a lot of other governors as well. And I'm not going to spend the whole show naming every governor, but who are finally pushing back and saying, this is fascism. Stop both sides in media, stop trying to sow division within the Democratic Party when we literally have military invasions, not into foreign countries, which would be bad by the United States into American cities. We're talking about deployments of active duty military with missions in states in the United States, also aided and abetted by red state governors, who again are the takers, who wouldn't exist without the blue states, who have far higher crime rates and than the blue states. And so it's like this whole system here in the United States is allowing this rule by red states, minority rule in terms of, you know, who actually controls the highest population centers, the lowest economies. The failed states are now attacking the actual successful and thriving states. So you go after California, we're like number one in almost every single stat, from businesses to startup environments to public education systems. You go look at Massachusetts, you go look at Illinois. You look at these states, that's a commonality. Then you take a look at like what's going on in Mississippi. You take a look at what's going on in Oklahoma. You take a look at what's going on in Texas. You take a look at what's going on in all these red states. It's a common theme, Brett and Jordyn.
Brett
And the wild thing is that you have people in those states so brainwashed that they literally will go around. Like in Mississippi, for example, you'll probably get a lot of people being like, I can't believe you live in Kami Foreign. Isn't that the worst place you've ever heard of? I'm like, I don't know, I live here. It's kind of like the most beautiful place on the planet. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry that you were force fed it, but okay, stay away. See what I care. But that's the power of propaganda. And as Ben's has said on the show before, it's exactly what they do in a place like North Korea. Could you believe what they're doing in South Korea? You don't want that here. You definitely don't want what's going on there. Are here. And I want to remind everybody that like this authoritarian creep that Ben was speaking about, this is how it happens. Like it, people don't. Vladimir Putin doesn't go into Russia and go, all right, everybody, I'm a dictator. It's happening. Guess what, it's dictatorship time. Like, that's not how it happens, okay? That happens is, is that little by little rights are eroded, rights are chipped away. And in these authoritarian countries, people, most people feel like they're living normal lives, right? They're going to the movies, they're binge watching shows on NetFL, whatever it may be. They're trying to hang out with friends, trying to make ends meet. It's. They're living normal lives, okay? But they're living under autocratic governments and their ability to have free speech has been eroded. Their ability to actually have a real say in elections have been voted avoided. And by the way, they have elections like Russia has elections, okay? They're not legitimate elections, but they have elections. And so you have to see that the playbook that the Republicans and Trump are running right now is exactly the playbook. That they're running in autocratic nations. Troops patrolling the street, businesses bowing to state pressure.
Benji
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Brett
You have it.
Benji
You have. Oh, you want me fired? Just give it away. Take my company.
Brett
Take my company. You have independent media being silenced. Judiciaries packed with loyalists do whatever they want. Dissent, label, treason. Oh, you want to burn the flag? You want to do this? Guess what?
Benji
You're going to prison.
Brett
What we're seeing right now is exactly what has happened throughout history in autocratic countries. So don't give me the crap. Oh, that's inflammatory. Don't use that sort of language. We need to be calling it out. And also, people need to stop chasing whatever kind of polls they're looking at or whatever, because then you get in this weird sort of loop of like, doing whatever Donald Trump wants to do. You have to lead like the way you see Gavin Newsom leading. You have to lead the way you see J.B. pritzker and Wes Moore leading. You need to get out in front of this. You need to set the message. And it's one thing that Trump has actually been good at, because the media parrots every thing that he says. But Trump says things in all caps, and the media parrots it.
Benji
Oh, Trump.
Brett
So Trump says he wants to send the military in to do a crackdown on crime. And the media goes, oh, Trump is cracking down on crime. It's a big crackdown. Crackdown alert. There's no crackdown on crime. Crimes at its lowest levels in, like, 50 years in all these states. The red states have higher crime. The places where these National Guards, people in the military are going aren't even the areas where the crime is. So don't give me that. This is a crackdown on crime. It's a military invasion, and everybody needs to be seen through the messaging of the White House. The press needs to stop parroting the message of the White House, and we need to get with it and stop shaming the people who are calling this stuff out.
Jordy
Exactly, Brad. You call it the authoritarian creep. I like to call it the leaky fascist faucet. That's what we're seeing, right? We have this business. We have these business CEOs, you know, going, hand over, Donald. Here, take this gold. Take this gold token. Please. Let me align myself with you. We have all these billionaires lining themselves around Donald Trump to get these favors, these oligarchs, if you will, within the United States. Oh, oh, we want to do a little gerrymandering here in Texas, y'.
Benji
All.
Jordy
That just, just over here. It's okay. We're just going to do it over. We're not going to extend it to other states, other red states. No, no, just let us do it over here. We'll rig the midterms. We'll get. We'll get ready for some, some, you know, election stuff to go down. And don't, don't worry about that. Or you know what?
Brett
National Guard.
Benji
Just.
Jordy
Let's send the National Guard into this one city. We're only going to do it here. You know, it's working so well here. Why don't we send the National Guard into another city? Oh, now, how about another city after? Know what? Just to make sure nothing funky happens during the midterms or the next presidential election, why don't we send the National Guard out to everywhere just so they're making sure that there's no election fraud happening. And this is how that leaky fascist facet continues to drip and drip and drip and somehow you normalize it. I'm not talking about y'.
Benji
All.
Jordy
I'm not talking about the listeners here. I'm not talking about the mighty smarty, because we're going to call it out. But I'm just talking about how the corporate media starts to just rationalize it. Oh, look, Donald Trump, he's just keeping everything safe, y'. All. He's just keep everything one National Guard over here at a time. That's what he's doing.
Brett
Brett, bookmark what Jordi just said there. Okay? I want everybody to bookmark exactly what Jordy just said because I know damn well that you are right that his plan will likely be, oh, well, we tested it out and look how successful we were in D.C. and in all these states. Look how much we crack down on crime with the military doing their bidding. So now for these elections, we need to send the military out on the streets to monitor these elections because there are some very bad people out there and we need the milit to be watching what's going on. You know that this is a prelude to that move. So bookmark Jordy's comments. That's. I think that's such a great point.
Benji
Well, sending the military on the streets right now is trying to prep the population and get the population used to a military run country specifically for rigging the elections. And you don't have to go down a conspiratorial rabbit hole for that. I mean, when Donald Trump was holding press conferences at the end of last week, he was saying, vladimir Putin told me what we need to do for our elections here. I'm not really paraphrasing what Trump said. Trump actually said that. That he got advice from Vladimir Putin, from a genocidal dictator about how our elections should be run, that Trump said he will be implementing here. And the fact that that just. Just fades away from corporate news coverage and they'll focus on other topics is something that we need to call out. It's why networks like ours are thriving right now, because we go, that is not normal. And the people know that that is not normal. Overwhelmingly, it's why Donald Trump has one of the lowest approval ratings in the history of the modern presidency, if not the presidency in general. And then Trump has to go out there with fake polls and fake numbers and say, actually, my polling's at 60 to 70%, despite what the fake media says. Not actually the media. I mean, it's legitimate. Polling averages across the board have Trump at the lowest. If Republicans really love their budget bill, they would be out there every day holding town halls, celebrating what they're doing instead of gerrymandering their states. They should show up and be conquering heroes, right? They should stand up. Here's the new hospitals we're building. Here are the new benefits we're giving to you. Here's how we've just helped you. We did it. No, instead, what are they focused on? Gerrymandering and removing Democratic seats in the House of Representatives as part of their authoritarian plan. Then when you call them out, when you retaliate against them, they behave as sociopaths. Behave, Right? They go, oh, my God, you started it. California is doing unlawful gerrymandering. Can you believe it? It's like California is doing what it's doing, quite literally in response. The trigger for California to do a ballot initiative to gerrymander their state is that Texas goes first, because Texas is the one that announced it. Democrats want to remove partisan gerrymandering. It's a very simple debate to have. It's not a debate at all. Democrats all voted to get rid of partisan gerrymandering. The Bill was called HR1. Democrats want campaign finance reform like McCain, Feingold, bipartisan, which Republicans are against. Republicans block the bill for removing partisan gerrymandering because they want all this dark money to go into politics and they want partisan gerrymandering. So you retaliate, and they go, oh, my God, you retaliated against us. That's so mean. You know, they do the same thing with Canada. You see the United States Ambassador to Canada, this Pete Hoekstra guy, terrible human Being he's there and he's like, canada's really messing with us. They have the audacity to retaliate against us. They should just do what we say. They should be happy that Donald Trump says 51st state and that should be the end of it. That's not the way it works. When you pick these fights with people, people who are strong are going to stand up. And Canada's strong. I know we the people are strong. We've always been feeling like we're alone, we the people in this fight. But it's good to see Democratic governors now fighting back and Democratic leaders fighting back. I've been covering what Bernie Sanders and AOC and Ro Khanna and others in the Democratic Party have been doing, and frankly, independents, too. If you stand up to this regime and fight the oligarchy and talk about what's really happening, how Donald Trump's made everything worse, the world is less safe, prices are higher, our economy is suffering, people are being laid off. That's just the reality. And Donald Trump says two weeks, two weeks, three weeks, two weeks, three weeks,. While he buys time for his fascist plan of a complete takeover, fires the people who actually compile the data, fire the data people and then just replace it with whatever Donald Trump says. That's what the two weeks is, is buying time for the fascism creep. That's what two, three weeks is actually code for. So we've been covering it, you've been feeling it. That's what we see at the no Kings protest, the energy there. And now governors and politicians are talking about it. Because this is existential, I want to share that with you. We've seen Governor Pritzker do a press conference today. We've seen Governor Walls hold an event today where he spoke about it. But I'll just show you one quick clip right now of Governor Pritzker. One of the things that Donald Trump's been doing is mocking Governor Pritzker's weight. He needs to hit the gym. He needs to do this. He needs this. You know, not really. He's a slob. You know, the way that Donald Trump behaves in such a infantile matter. Let me share with you right now what Governor Pritzker said from his perspective, what's really going on right now. Let's play this clip.
Governor or Political Figure
Well, you know, from my perspective, it takes one to know one on the weight question. And the president, of course, himself is not in good shape, so he ought to respond to that from me. I would say also that his personal attacks on me are just evidence of a guy who's still living in fifth grade. He's the kind of bully that throws invectives at people. And because he knows that what he's saying is actually commentary on himself.
Benji
Projection. Classic projection. And confession. And Governor Pritzker saying exactly what it is. I want to show you more clips of Governor Pritzker of Governor Walls of Democrats fighting back. I want to juxtapose it to what we're seeing in Trump and MAGA world. I also want to show you how they're covering up the Epstein files and continuing to do that and much more right here on the Midas Touch podcast. A reminder, please subscribe right now to the YouTube channel. We're on our way to 6 million subscribers. And while you're at it, if you could become a member of our YouTube channel, it goes a long way to help us grow. We've been able to grow with zero outside investors and one of the main ways we've been able to grow is through your memberships on this YouTube channel. You can gift memberships to as many people as you want as well others who may not be able to. To afford memberships, you just click that join button and then it allows you to gift memberships. All right, let's take our first quick break of the day. We've got a lot more to show you when we're back. When we're back, we'll show you some receipts, we'll show you the evidence, we'll play the clips and we'll talk about much more. First break of the show.
Jordy
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Benji
Governor Pritzker then calls out the press and says to the members of the press who are assembled here today, here's my message for you. Let's play this clip to the members.
Governor or Political Figure
Of the press who are assembled here today and listening across the country, I am asking for your courage to tell it like it is. This is not a time to pretend here that there are two sides to this story. This is not a time to fall back into the reflexive crouch that I so often see where the authoritarian creep by this administration is ignored in favor of some horse race piece on who will be helped politically by the President's actions. Donald Trump wants to use the military to occupy a US City, punish his dissidents and square your political points. If this were Happening in any other country, we would have no trouble calling it what it is, a dangerous power.
Benji
Grab, AKA fascism, authoritarianism, dictatorship.
Brett
Here, let me remind you quickly too, because just based off of that comment, I want to remind everybody here what publications, what kind of articles publications were running during the 2024 campaign. Very quickly. So this was the Hill. They ran this op ed. This is from October 18, 2024. They posted Kamala's newest lie, Trump will send the army after you. This was in the Hill. It was an op ed. It was an opinion piece.
Benji
They pick like, a terrible photo of her to, like, make her, look, like, hysterical, awful.
Brett
Yeah, they pick a bad photo of her. Like, it's just like the photo they pick is clearly, you know, chosen for a reason. And by the way, that's up to their editorial troll. So, like, you know, I know they would probably defend themselves by saying, like, oh, but it was an op ed and we give op EDS to all sides. Well, don't. First of all, don't. How about you, that no one's requiring you to. To pump out lies like that. Like, you have a responsibility, I think, not to just run everything you get. And then you also have an editorial decision about what photo you use, what headline you use, and all sorts of things like that. And this is what you went with. And the road to fascism, the road to autocracy, is paved by legacy media networks and websites who do stuff exactly like this. And that's why I'm happy to see people like Governor Pritzker calling him out here.
Benji
Governor Pritzker gives the data about red states versus blue states when it comes to crime. Here, play this next one.
Governor or Political Figure
Crime is a reality we all face in this country. Public safety has been among our highest priorities since taking office. We have hired more police and given them more funding. We banned assault weapons, ghost guns, bump stocks, and high capacity magazines. We invested historic amounts into community violence intervention programs. We listened to our local communities, to the people who live and work in the places that are most affected by crime, and asked them what they needed to help make their neighborhoods safer. Those strategies have been working. Crime is dropping in Chicago. Murders are down 32% compared to last year and nearly cut in half since 2021. Shootings are down 37% since last year and 57% from four years ago. Robberies are down 34% year over year. Burglaries down 21%. Motor vehicle thefts down 26%. So in case there was any doubt as to the motivation behind Trump's military, military occupations take note, 13 of the top 20 cities in homicide rate have Republican governors. None of these Cities is Chicago. Eight of the top 10 states with the highest homicide rates are led by Republicans. None of those states is Illinois. Memphis, Tennessee, Hattiesburg, Mississippi have higher crime rates than Chicago. And yet Donald Trump is sending troops here and not there. Ask yourself why. If Donald Trump was actually serious about fighting crime in cities like Chicago, he, along with his congressional Republicans, would not be cutting over $800 million in public safety and crime prevention grants nationally, including cutting 1,158 million dollars in funding to Illinois for violence prevention programs that deploy trained outreach workers to de escalate conflict on our streets. Cutting $71 million in law enforcement grants to Illinois direct money for police departments through programs like Project Safe Neighborhoods, the state and local anti terrorism training program, and the Rural Violent Crime reduction initiative. Cutting $137 million in child protection measures in Illinois that protect our kids against abuse and neglect. Trump is defunding the police.
Benji
There's a reason why under Donald Trump, during his first administration, too, you had the highest homicide rate basically in history. I mean, there is no method to the madness. There's just madness to the method, which is have the military on the streets to show dictatorship force while not actually addressing the root causes of crime and then actually exacerbating the root causes of crime by removing the grants and funding for cities and educational opportunities that exist to, to put people on a better path and a better direction. It's whether you're looking at Chicago or Philadelphia, I recently interviewed Larry Krasner. I'm going to drop that interview in the morning on Tuesday. Same thing. I mean, you look at Philadelphia, all of this funding that Biden provided to improve the life of the city, to help people get out and do things right, which is a way to have people avoid crime. Trump is gutting all of those things instead. Spending hundreds of billions of dollars on ice to send people into concentration camps and then putting the military on the streets. Governor Walls also took aim at the coverage of what's taking place. Governor Walls, speaking in Minnesota at a Democratic National Committee summer summit, says, stop taking the freaking bait, media. Stop taking it and focus on what's really happening here. Here, play this clip. But what we have to be clear about is don't take the bait. It boggles my damn mind that in the midst of a military takeover, our cities and the attempt to go into others, the flaunting of the rule of law, the cruelness and the unconstitutional nature of the way they're Attacking our neighbors that the press finds the need to talk about. Oh, there's a division in the Democratic Party. There's a division in my damn house. And we're still married and things are good. That's life. That's life. We are strong. We are strong because we challenge each other. We are strong because we're held accountable. We're strong because we believe that there's a place for everyone here. Think of how easy it would be.
Governor or Political Figure
To be a damn republic.
Benji
Republican.
Governor or Political Figure
Oh, what?
Benji
What should I wear today? This stupid freaking red hat. What should I say today? I don't know. Just make sure it's cruel. Who do we listen to? That guy. Oh, the felon in the White House? Yeah. Listen to him and that will be fine. You know, it feels like these are some Mighty Touch speeches, huh?
Jordy
Brett and Jordan, you're a mu B.
Brett
I know you want to say something, but I just want to say also, like, you notice that we don't take the bait here at the Midas Touch podcast, right? Like, there's a reason why the stories we focus on are the stories we focus on. And without belab too much and actually taking the bait, there's a reason we don't spend an hour speaking about Sydney Sweeney or Cracker Barrel or whatever real distractions they're trying to throw at us, and we stay focused on the actual existential threats that are right in front of us.
Benji
Jordy.
Jordy
Absolutely. Those clips get me fired up. Like this. This is it. Like, that's the energy. And I don't know about y'.
Benji
All.
Jordy
I'm just sick of Dems taking toothpicks to knife fights, because you know what happens when you take a toothpick to a knife fight? You get cut. And I'm just sick and tired of watching the Dems get cut. I'm sick and tired of watching the American people get cut. So, like, don't let yourself get bullied. You have to stick up for yourself, and in many cases now in 2025, be the bully, because there's no reasoning with the Trump regime. There's no reasoning with these MAGA fascists. These are bad, bad people. And I'm not afraid to say it or call it out. You know, they want to make your life hell. They want to make your loved ones live health hell every single day. What they're trying to do is they're trying to make the world more unattainable for the average American while the rich get richer in the top 1%. Well, the government seems to be working really well. For them. Kudos to Pritzker, man. Kudos to Walls Newsom, Jasmine Crockett, who's been doing it. Westmore. I mean, we need leaders who are going to get up there and fight for us, because that's what people need in this moment, are fighters. And with each passing day, it becomes more and more clear who those folks are, in my opinion.
Benji
Ben, like, how is this normalized? This was from the end of last week. Donald Trump's in the Oval Office randomly with the head of FIFA again, Like, again. Like, this guy's going to show up, like, every week now. And. And I think the whole purpose of Trump inviting the head of FIFA was so Trump could steal the FIFA World cup trophy. Trump already stole the FIFA Club World cup trophy, where he was booed in New Jersey. That's already in his office. Like, he literally stole it. He took it. So FIFA had to give the winners a new trophy, like the. Like a fake trophy. Trump has the real trophy. So anyway, Trump calls in the new head of FIFA who gives. Who wasn't even going to give Trump the trouble. Trump's like, that's mine now. I'd like it. So it's now in the Oval Office. And then Trump goes, I was just sent a picture from somebody who wants to be here very badly. Can you guess who it is? Everybody? And Trump is saying this right before Ukrainian Independence Day. And this is what gets Donald Trump off. And again, could you imagine Ronald Reagan, George H.W. bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Obama, by you name it, holding up a photo with Putin, a genocidal dictator, like. Like as though you're in the honeymoon phase with your girlfriend. Hey, you see. You see Vladi right here? Vladdy sent me this photo. Look at me and Vlad watch Trump do it. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
And I just sent a picture from somebody that wants to be there very badly. He's been very respectful of me and of our country, but not so respectful of others. But he'll. I'm going to sign this for him, but I was sent one, and I thought you'd all like to see it. That's a man named Vladimir Putin, who I believe will be coming, depending on what happens. He may be coming and he may not, depending on what happens. We have a lot of things happening over the next couple of weeks, but I thought it was a nice picture of him.
Benji
Okay, that should be instantly game over, right? I mean, if. If this was a normal, functioning democracy in the United States, that right there should be game over. You know how Donald Trump, by game Over. I mean, he should be removed from office. He should be impeached, the 25th amendment, whatever. You know how Donald Trump's like, Russia, Russia, Russia. In 2016, they said, Russia, Russia, Russia. Like, their way to distract from the Epstein files right now is saying Obama and everybody, they. They made up that I had this connection with Russia. What do you have to make up? You're in the Oval Office yesterday, holding up a photo of you and Vladimir Putin. What you just did right there is frankly far worse than the worst things that could possibly have been in Russia, Russia, Russia. Okay? Which was real because we heard you then say Russia. If you're listening, hack into my opponent's emails. But I just saw it. It's like the same thing. Whatever the hell is in those Epstein files. And it must be horrific for Donald Trump. What just happened in front of our eyes. The Department of Justice giving Ghislaine Maxwell, a convicted sex trafficker queen for the day, immunity from future prosecutions. Speak with her for two days, Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney. And then after she says, I could barely remember.
Brett
I missed.
Benji
She was like, Ms. Poppins. I miss Poppins. I could barely remember him. He was the perfect gentleman. I'm not even sure I knew him.
Brett
One of the parts that stood out to me, Ben, was, you know, this, this. This who act that she put on with her little Mary Poppins bit when she was like, excuse me, do you know, Sorry, I want.
Benji
I. I want to quote that for.
Brett
You, but it's a bad word. You. Am I allowed to say a bad word in this room with you? It's. It's a dirty word. I'm sorry. And they're like, oh, yeah, you could say whatever you want, Ms. Maxwell. She's like, he said you. I was like, you're talking to a convicted sex trafficker. And I would say, she's not playing you. Like, you're all in on this ridiculous scheme. She's trying to act like Ms. Goody Two Shoes, and she's saying all this good thing, all these good things. Trump, like that in and of itself is. Is like, worse. It's worse than the Alex Acosta sweetheart deal from back in the day, when Trump awarded the U.S. attorney back then and gave him a position in his administration during the first term for helping out Jeffrey Epstein with the sweetheart deal. We're witnessing a sweetheart deal right now with Ghislaine Maxwell covering it up, saying F you to the victims as they elevate this Ghislaine Maxwell as, like, a source of truth. As like this all knowing human who wouldn't dare say a lie about Don. Donald Trump wouldn't dare say a lie. Meanwhile, everything that she says is obviously in direct contradiction to the actual court case. To even think she said during that court case to what the victim said, to everything that we know, because this has actually been in front of a jury and she was convicted on these charges and that's why she is in prison in the first place. Like, how despicable is all this?
Benji
She goes, she goes, jeffrey Epstein, he did nothing wrong. He didn't even like young. This is like, like almost verbat in the transcript. Yeah, I don't, I don't. He didn't like young girls. What he wanted to know is these were, these were women on the younger age, and he wanted to know what music they were into so he could have his own musical selections. That's what this was about, music. Yes. They're young. And, and, and my point about why, how I'm weaving and connecting all of this though, is that these things are happening, happening in front of us right now. Right? Trump is doing the Putin thing in front of us. Donald Trump gave Delaine Maxwell a deal moving her from Tallahassee to a minimum security facility in Bryan, Texas, near Texas A and M's college campus. She gets a reward. Why are you. What did she do to get a reward? Oh, she said that Donald Trump didn't do anything. And then Donald Trump releases fake Epstein files. You know, it was in many ways what he did over the weekend was just as bad, had probably worse than when they held up the fake Epstein binder back in February. They just turned over 98% of documents, 33,000 documents that were already turned over. And like the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee, led by Congressmember Garcia, like, they hired a group of people to compare them and go, wait a minute, these were exactly everything that was released before. So they continue, they continue to do that. Again, these cover ups in plain view right here. Oh, and by the way, at that Camp Brian, Texas, they moved a woman who was there legitimately to a facility where the sex traffics are because she spoke out about Delaine Maxwell being there, because the lady who was there had a family member who was the victim of sex trafficking. So she thought it was her obligation to call out that a sex trafficker was moved there. And then she got moved to the bad facility. Ghislaine got moved into the good facility. But you take a look at just even what Trump is saying today. This was Trump on Putin and Saying, you know, the reporter was asking, well, look, Putin has not agreed to a ceasefire, Putin has not agreed to security guarantees, and Putin has not agreed to a bilateral or trilateral meeting with Zelensky. So all of the things you said he was going to do, not only is he not doing, he's basically saying he's never going to do. And if anything, the attacks on innocent Ukrainians have only escalated. So what are you going to do about it? And then Trump's like, well, the main concession that he made is that he went to Alaska. By the way, in Alaska right now, Trump's approval rating is at like, 41%. And that was a Trump state. So people in Alaska, like, you're bringing Putin over here, like, what the hell? What the hell are you doing? Here's what Trump said this morning on Putin Here. Let's play it.
Interviewer
Mr. President, when you met with Russian President Vladimir Putin, how soon did he say that he wanted to sit down.
Benji
With Ukrainian President Zelensky?
Interviewer
Russia, as of now, says there's no.
Brett
Meeting on the books and no agenda is set.
Donald Trump
Well, that's going to be up to them. It takes two to tango, I always say it. And they should meet, I think, before I have a meeting and probably close the deal, but I think it's appropriate they meet. They do not exactly get along well, as you can understand. Understand. And I'm sure it's a meeting that perhaps he didn't like, but he wasn't happy about coming to the United States either. That was a big concession, and I appreciate the fact that he did.
Benji
That was a big concession. That was giving the game away. Putin on American soil. Russia claims Alaska may still be part of Russia. You have the Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, wearing a USSR shirt mocking the United States. This was Russia after all of their history, which they view as being utterly humiliated and outmaneuvered by the United States having their moment. This was their moment of Mr. Gorbachev tear down the wall. It was Putin and Lavrov coming into the United States for the ultimate Russian propaganda moment, giving absolutely nothing and having the United States troops go down on their knees and roll out the red carpet. For Putin, it could not have been a bigger victory. But again, corporate news, too afraid to report on that, too afraid to call Donald Trump a treasonous traitor for his behavior, too afraid to call him a felon, too afraid to call him a sexual abuser, too afraid to call him a loser and a bankrupter. How could anybody be with this? Like, that's the craziest part Even with the Alaska STAT. What 41% of people in Alaska look at Putin going or, or the remaining group of people look at Putin and say, you know, you know what? I like that. Let's have more people coming in mocking our country and potentially seizing like. Like who? Yeah, I covering up for a convicted sex trafficker, making prices higher. I'm not going to believe my own eyes. I'm just going to believe what Donald Trump tells me. I want to talk about that and more. We've got to take our last quick break of the show. A reminder, become a member of our YouTube channel. It's one of the best ways to help us grow. You can gift memberships to as many people as you want. It's hugely helpful. Lots of people can't afford it. So if you can gift people memberships, that's really, really helpful. We've got bonus features and extra content as well. Also, check out midasplus.com while you're at it. Let's take our last quick break of the show.
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Brett
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Jordy
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Benji
So Trump is sitting there today in the Oval Office with the trophies that he's stolen, with the gold offerings that were given to him as essentially, in my opinion, bribes by corporations. And he's there with the president of South Korea. So naturally, Donald Trump talks about how much he loves the dictator of North Korea, Kim Jong Un. Here, play this clip.
Brett
Kim Jong Un wants to meet.
Benji
When do you.
Brett
You want to meet with him?
Donald Trump
We do.
Brett
You said the North Korean leader wants to meet.
Benji
How soon would you.
Donald Trump
Yeah, we want to have a meeting. I like to have a meeting. I get along great with him. You know, you were there. We even had a press conference. He had his first press conference. Kim Jong Un had a press conference. This was a little different press conference.
Benji
It's one of the things to note as well that since that press conference, North Korea has accelerated its nuclear program, has more nuclear capabilities than ever before. Donald Trump's meeting with Kim Jong Un a total failure. I mean, again, you look at what Donald Trump did by striking Iran, other than potentially trying to benefit Donald Trump personally so he can feel tough about himself. Helping Netanyahu try to delay the criminal proceedings against him didn't hurt Iran. Trump basically removed the sanctions against Iran, encouraged them to do more oil deals with China. Iran's been able to get way more money. The enriched uranium wasn't destroyed by the United States. The facilities are mostly fine and they're able to rebuild. They're giving more shahed drones to Russia to attack innocent Ukrainians and, and kill innocent Ukrainians. And you go back to right before Donald Trump attack the, the attack of Iran. Remember what Donald Trump said. He was speaking with Vladimir Putin, who wanted to help mediate. Think about who was the winner in the strikes against Iran. Iran, Putin, China, Netanyahu personally, and not Israel as a country and not the Middle east at all. But, but those were. Who actually benefited from that. Donald Trump then claims that Wes Moore, the governor of Maryland, the one time they met, praise Trump and said how great Trump is and that you're the greatest president. You'll play this clip.
Donald Trump
Baltimore is a horrible, horrible deathbed. It's a DeathBed. I know Governor Moore said, oh, he wants to take a walk with me. He meant it in a derogatory tone. I said, no, no, I'm the President of the United States. Clean up your crime and I'll walk with you. But it's tremendous crime. But he was trying to be derogatory. He doesn't have what it takes, but he's trying to be derogatory. And I met him at the Army Navy game. They said, oh, there's Governor Morehead. Love to see you. He came over to me, he hugged me, shook my hand. You were there. He said, sir, you're the greatest president of my lifetime. I said, it's really nice that you say that. I'd love you to say it publicly, but I don't think you can do that. So it's okay. But no, sir, you're doing a fantastic job. I want to just shake your hand. Thank you very much, Governor. That was that.
Benji
There's actually footage of that entire interaction. Interestingly, Fox, Fox published that footage, but then they told their audience, so who are you going to believe, the footage or Wes Moore when the footage literally confirms that that's not what happened? We have the footage here. Play it.
Brett
Knocking the hell out of him. Wes Moore is posting on social media saying that President Trump can't walk, but maybe he should walk the streets of Baltimore. It then didn't take him long to respond to the President there in the Oval office. He said, LOL. Keep telling yourself that, Mr. President. It'd be wild, though, if only we had the footage that President Trump had referenced about them meeting at the Army Navy game. And thanks to the art of the surge on Fox Nation, we have the footage.
Benji
President, welcome back to Maryland, sir.
Brett
Welcome back to Maryland. It's good to see you. It's a conversion, too.
Jordy
Thank you, sir.
Brett
Great to see you. Great. Great to have you back here. Thank you. Sorry.
Benji
Thank you. Thank you.
Brett
Well, we are. We are very, very anxious to, to.
Benji
Be able to work closely with you.
Brett
And, you know, I know the Key Bridge is something that we're. It's going well. I mean, we spoke to Speaker Johnson yesterday, and Speaker Johnson says he believes that we're close to the 100 cost share. And, and the thing is, I told him when we get that 100 cost share done, we are going to be able to open the Key Bridge under your watch, because I will have it done in 28 on time, on budget.
Benji
It will help you out.
Brett
Thank you, sir. We didn't hear their greatest president ever, but we did hear a lot of enthusiasm and so excited to meet you, Mr. President. Who's telling the truth? We'll let you decide. We'll let you decide.
Benji
We actually have the footage. Now. You could argue that was early on in the Trump regime, that Governor Westmore was at least trying to strike a conciliatory tone and wasn't like, fu. Whereas right now, Governor Moore is ready to fight, and he's out there clearly being, you know, way more aggressive than that. But we, we have the footage. Like, like, like, we literally have the tape. But I guess as Donald Trump said, he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and his people would be like, oh.
Governor or Political Figure
You didn't do it.
Benji
It. You didn't do it.
Brett
Yeah, there was a, there was a. I think a lot of people thought that social media and the Internet would be used for good when it was getting started. That, you know, and then there were at the beginning, you know, there was a lot of these kind of democratic uprisings and authoritarian places, and it seemed like, oh, look, social media could actually be used for, for democracy and for good. Fortunately, the bad guys got a hold of all of it and they took over all the platforms. And, and you have all this propaganda media out there right now that is just feeding this to people every single day. And so there's no concept of truth at all with these people. They don't, they're not viewing anything through any sort of objective lens. Their view is, how do we help Donald Trump here? And they could tell you, just like in 1984, what you're seeing is not actually what is happening. Don't believe your lying eyes. And that's basically the entirety of Fox at this point, maybe, except for, like, Jessica Tarlov. It's the entirety of these influencers online. And it doesn't matter if they held one position one day and a different position the next day. Like you saw Charles Charlie Kirk a few weeks ago was, you know, posting about how dare we have all these Chinese students in our universities. This is an invasion of our schools and da, da, da, da, da, you know. And what did Donald Trump say today? That he was going to allow 600,000 Chinese students to come into the United States. And Charlie Kirk, without showing any sense of hypocr, you know, not acting like he's being hypocritical at all, will change his mindset like immediately. And go, this is a genius idea by Donald Trump. The same way like he did with the Epstein files, when at first he was like, I don't know about disguise, I'm going to talk. Then he got his little phone call from Donald Trump and suddenly he's now, okay, I got my message, I got my marching orders. I know what to do here. We're under not only an authoritarian regime of governance, but an authoritarian media and we are being propagandized every single day. And these people, for whatever reason, the MAGA people. And at the end of the day, I don't know who's worse, like, who's worse in this situation. Is it Donald Trump?
Benji
Trump.
Brett
Or is it these people, like the Foxes, like the Charlie Kirks, like the Megyn Kelly's, like all these various kind of MAGA propagandists who are willingly and knowingly spreading these lies every day and telling people that they shouldn't be concerned about the Epstein files. Telling people the complete opposite of what is actually going on. I think you can make an argument that those people are even more evil because without them, Donald Trump simply does not exist. But he is built on these platforms which sow division. So hatred and spread lies all day long.
Jordy
Yeah, but also the reality is they're all terrible. They're all just awful people. Awful human beings, if you could even call them that. And they all work together. That's why to a certain degree, I'm very conflicted on how I feel about this. We're all adults, right? You should be able to know right from wrong by the time that you're an adult. At the same time, there is a trillion dollar propaganda arm that gets fed literally. And for the audio listeners, I'm holding my direct, I'm holding my phone literally, directly beamed into your eyes 247 between Fox News, the New York Post, the algorithms on X, you name it, face wherever you are, that trillion dollar propaganda arm is hitting you and it prays to your worst inhibition. It just, it just preys on you. And it's a sticky thing for people too, right? Because it's a dopamine Hit. And so I'm very conflicted about the MAGA base in general because again, at a certain point, you're an adult, you have to make the decision in your life, hey, is this the right decision? Is it a wrong decision? Is it a morally bankrupt decision? Am I going to go out and back the guy that is truly an awful human being, that being Donald Trump, or am I going to be able to step away from that and realize, no, I know right from wrong.
Benji
Wrong.
Jordy
It's tough for me because that trillion dollar propaganda arm, you know, these folks, folks, they're just not built to withstand it. So I sympathize, but I also get so angry that you can allow yourself to get sucked in by it. At the same token, Brad and Ben.
Benji
Let me give you these two examples to close out this episode strong, using a logical based approach, the way media should cover things.
Brett
Things.
Benji
So first up, Abrego Garcia, right? He's the guy from Maryland. He was, he had a protected status that just said, you can't move him to El Salvador. You can move him to any other country. He would, he worked in a union there. He had an American wife, American kids. He's been here, you know, since he was basically 16 years old. He's been checking in, productive member of, of that society, according to all the people who worked with him. I'm not here to defend Abrego Garcia's character, but I am here to defend due process. There was an order that said don't send him to El Salvador. They send him to a concentration camp in El Salvador. They, the Supreme Court says bring him back here. They don't bring him back here at first. Then finally, before all the Trump people are held in contempt for what they did by various federal judges, they then, then bring him to Tennessee and then prosecute him for a traffic stop from 2022 where he was let off, I think without even a ticket. And they call him a human traffic smuggler. And they're accusing him of basically driving a car with other people who are going to work. And they're almost acting like he's a sex trafficker. Like they use that terminology, human trafficker. They then post images of himself, of a brago. This was from today, the White House account. Ms. 13 Just think about tainting the jury pool. Like, bottom line, if you want to prove that he's a gang member who shouldn't be here, follow the process. If you want to argue that he's a human trafficker, well, then surely you will have the trial take place in Tennessee. You'll introduce evidence and you'll prove your case. But no, that's not what you want to do. Because as soon as he was released temporarily, earlier today, when he went back with his family in this incredible moment, because the judges are like, there's no evidence against him. We're going to release him until his criminal trial takes place in Tennessee. Let him be with his family. ICE immediately arrests him. And because he refused to plead guilty to the charges, they were trying to shake him down. They said, if you plead guilty, guilty, we'll let you go to Costa Rica and you can have a, you can live your life in Costa Rica. We won't bother you. But if you don't plead guilty, we're going to send you to Uganda. Uganda. Uganda doesn't even want him. He has no connection to Uganda. So they then arrest him today so he doesn't get a trial and then ship him to Uganda. And then at the Oval Office press conference, Pam Bondi said the following the about him today. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
He beat the hell out of his wife. His wife is afraid to even talk about him. She's been mauled by this animal. And, you know, through a system of liberal courts, you know, he's doing things. But no, we have that under control. And Pam has got that very much under control. Do you want to comment on it?
Benji
No, no, we, we've got him under control.
Brett
He will no longer terrorize our country.
Benji
He's currently charged with human smuggling, including children. The guy needs to be in prison.
Brett
He doesn't need to be on the streets like all these liberals want him to be.
Benji
First off, it was a Trump immigration judge in 2019 that gave the protected status to Abrego Garcia, but said, you want to deport him to any other country other than El Salvador, do it. So that's what the Trump immigration judge said. Said and now after the Supreme Court said facilitate his return rather than allow him to even have his trial in Tennessee, they want to ship him to Uganda. Now, again, do I, I don't know Abrego's background. I don't know him personally. Again, I'm not here to say Abrego is a great guy or a bad guy, but as a lawyer or just as a human being, I say Abrego, if you're going to charge him, allow him to have the process and charge him. If you're going to deport him, then deport him to some country that he has some connection to. Costa Rica says they're willing to take him. Why are you sending him to Uganda, other than you want to be cruel and unusual in your punishment. So to me, that's just a perfect example where the issues should be crystallized very easy and objectively on what we're dealing with. It's not a confusing issue issue. If you, if you care about our American system of justice, Brett. And then I'll go into the next one.
Brett
And if you could. And if they could do this to Abrego Garcia, they could do this to anybody. Right? I think that's the thing that, you know, you might think, how. Well, how would this affect me? Well, you see the federal government, in a really dystopian 1984 style fashion, just labeling this person as a gang member, calling them MS.13, putting all this stuff out there. But when it comes time to file an indictment, to try to actually try the case in court, they're not doing any of that. And once you have a government that can take it upon itself to say, you are a gang member, you are an evil human being, you are a terrorist. This is the language. They called him a terrorist. You are a terrorist, you're a gang member, Ms. 13, so you need to go, we're sending you to a torture chamber. Then they could do that to any of us. And all we want here at this show, and I think a lot of people who are listening to the show and watching this show want is to have due process rights because it's the. One of the bedrocks of our democracy. Democracy.
Benji
So you have that. Okay, to me, basic issue, next issue. Russia bad, right? Russia bad. But it's even more than that. Like Donald Trump and the media have been saying now for all of this time that there are these deals and ceasefires, and if there's no ceasefire, Donald Trump's going to be tough. And that Russia's agreed to security guarantees and, and, and bilateral or trilateral meetings with Zelensky. They've agreed to none. These of it just, just hasn't happened like that. Just not the facts. Not only has that not happened, but Russia has hit American factories in Ukraine. Like the. The Chamber of Commerce president from the United States is like, they're humiliating our businesses. This company called Flex that makes electronics. Russia targeted in an area in western Ukraine that's very close to the EU border, intentionally to show we don't give a shit if it's American. We're going to go and attack like it's the ultimate statement by Russia to show its dominance over America. How is this not the biggest or could you imagine if when Biden was there or whoever. Russia attacked an American, they attacked an American company on purpose. Now, do you think that Sergey Lavra. I was, I was having a conversation with my wife about what happened and she's not necessarily following all the ins and out and she goes, what? So is Russia, is Russia. They're saying they didn't do it, right? Like they're saying it didn't happen and they're blaming, what a mistake. I go, no, no, no. Lavrov went on American media and said, we did it, of course we did that. What you don't understand, we do what we want to do. Here. Watch Lavrov right here. Let's play it.
Interviewer
This week, Russia bombed an American owned factory near the Hungarian border. I've spoken to people who frankly see that as a slap in the face to President Trump, to the entire peace process. Isn't it?
Benji
Well, I would say that those who are sincerely interested in understanding what is going on would know, should know by now that never, ever Russia deliberately turns targeted any sites which are not linked.
Donald Trump
To military.
Benji
Abilities of Ukraine.
Interviewer
This is an electronics factory though, sir. This, this is an electronics factory. I've spoken to people on the ground there. It builds coffee machines among other electronics. This is not a military site.
Donald Trump
Well, I understand that some people are.
Benji
Really naive and when they see, see a coffee machine in the window, they.
Brett
Believe that this is the place where coffee machines are produced. Our intelligence has very good information.
Benji
Well, it's not a slap in the face to Donald Trump. It is an act of war. He wasn't denying it. He was saying, I don't think that it actually makes electronics. He wasn't saying it wasn't an American factory. He was saying that Russia deliberately targeted an American factory because they believe that American factory was helping Ukraine. So we attacked an American factory. So surely JD Vance, the Vice President, would be enraged. How could this possibly be an issue that doesn't enrage you? Here's what JD Vance said. Play this.
Interviewer
President Trump, were you enraged when you learned that Russia targeted an American company based in Ukraine?
Brett
I don't, I don't like it, Kristen.
Benji
But this is a war and this is why we want to stop the killing.
Brett
The Russians have done a lot of things that we don't like. A lot of civilians have died.
Benji
We've condemned that stuff from the get go. And frankly, President Trump has done more to apply pressure and to apply economic.
Brett
Leverage to the Russians certainly than Joe Biden did for three and a half years when he did nothing but talk but do nothing to Bring the killing to a stop.
Benji
So, first off, the strikes against Ukraine right now have doubled or tripled under Donald Trump. Donald Trump has removed sanctions. Donald Trump and his regime, led by people like Colby Elbridge and the Defense Department, have limited and rejected the ability of Ukraine to launch various strikes against Russia. America, at various points in time, have withheld weapons from Ukraine. And so it's a blame Biden. When Biden brought two new members into NATO, what could be a more powerful counterpunch to Russia's aggression than bringing in Finland and Sweden into NATO? What could be a more powerful move than. Than. Than in. Than expanding NATO and imposing strong sanctions? And then he. That this is war. I mean, have we lost the moral compass that we can't even acknowledge that this isn't even, like, a big story, right. Russia attacked America, and America just took it right on. Ukrainian independent. Right around Ukraine Independence Day after rolling out the red carpet for Putin. How is it not being said the way I'm saying it? Like, how is that just something normal? And so contrast that finally to Prime Minister Carney so we can see what leadership actually looks like as the Prime Minister of Canada shows up in Ukraine on Ukrainian Independence Day and behaves like an adult leader. Like, this is what actual leader. We should have someone here who's, like, smart and intelligent, who speaks in full sentences, is. Who's not decomposing before our eyes. This is Prime Minister Carney. Let's play.
Governor or Political Figure
When peace comes, we must fortify Ukraine by rebuilding your cities, expanding your industries, developing your resources, and creating the foundations for true prosperity. And when that peace comes, and it will come, that day will come, Canada will be there.
Benji
To close.
Governor or Political Figure
Mr. President, in the last of those paintings, I referred to those Kurolik paintings, the one with the Ukrainian farmer amidst a Canadian field of plenty. A keen eye can see in the distance a mushroom cloud, a bomb. It's a reminder that peace, when it comes, can never be taken for granted. And it's a reminder to Canadians that we are connected, that your fight is our fight, that your struggle is our cause, and that your independence will be our victory. Slava, Ukrainian.
Benji
That'S what should be happening, happening here. That's what a leader should be doing. That's why I wanted to close this episode with this. Brett, anything before we go?
Brett
No, I'll say, you know, if. If we're able to get out from under the weight of everything that we are currently experiencing, the next, you know, Democratic leader is going to have a whole lot ahead of them to clean up, and there's a lot of destruction, a lot of time bombs that Trump and this administration have set, a lot of illegal activity that they have conducted and continued, continue to continue to conduct. So I hope whoever a future administration, if and when we get there, is able to fight back and combat it and make sure that these people are held accountable. We've been talking about a lot of heavy stuff. I think I maybe should make a positive announcement here on the Midas Touch podcast for everybody. So, brothers, well, you guys know this. Imagine, Imagine if I told you this for the first time on the show. So I'm having a kid. I'm really, you know, excited, anxious, all, all the feeling, all the things, all the feelings, all the emotions. So I truly don't know when it's gonna happen. It's, it's, I'm in that crazy waiting period. So it's a boy for those wondering. And that's all I'm gonna tell you for now.
Benji
But I'll say this too, about Brett. Brett is the secretive brother I share. Every time I have like, a toothache and root canals and back pains and herniated discs, I just spew it all out. Brett, this could happen at any day now. And you've, you've, you've kept.
Jordy
Any second, any minute.
Brett
I have. Quite literally.
Jordy
Yeah.
Brett
So not only am I telling the Midas mighty and telling everybody, because I do view this community as, as family, but it's literally, it could happen at any moment. So, so, you know, I, I, I will likely be here Thursday. But like, I, we went to the doctor the other day and he's, you know, he said that it could happen at basically any time at this point. So if I'm not here, here, you know, why. And I want to thank everybody. I see all the, you know, nice wishes coming on in through the live chat. So thank you guys. I, I really appreciate it. But, yeah, so big news. I'm super excited and, you know, it gives, gives me all the more reason, you know, to continue to continue to fight, continue to push forward. But I thought, you know, we've been speaking about a lot of, a lot of not so great news, so I thought I'd share some good news with you. And I know if I suddenly vanish one day and you wonder, where's Brad? I haven't seen Brett on Instagram today or I haven't seen him on stream legitimately. That's how close we are. So it legitimately could be like that if you see me just run off the screen. So, yeah. So thanks, everybody, for the kind wishes and, and we'll keep you posted. But, but very, very exciting and I'm super psyched for, you know, for us to, you know, the cousins. Man, we're gonna have some cousins. We're gonna be close and best buds and so I'm, I'm looking forward to that. So Secrets out.
Benji
Love it.
Jordy
Secrets Out.
Benji
Let's go.
Jordy
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Benji
Super.
Jordy
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Date: August 26, 2025
Hosts: Ben Meiselas, Brett Meiselas, Jordy Meiselas
This episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast is a fiery, wide-ranging discussion on the ongoing threats the brothers see to American democracy, with special focus on authoritarian tactics by Donald Trump and his administration. The Meiselas brothers critique the cover-up of the Epstein files, condemn the normalization of military deployments within the U.S., and break down recent propaganda moves by Trump and MAGA media. They also highlight the growing resistance from Democratic governors and close with a personal announcement from Brett.
[02:00–07:00]
Ben opens the show by painting a stark picture of what he calls the Trump regime’s acceleration toward authoritarianism, including military deployments within U.S. states under the guise of crime prevention (02:00).
Criticizes the alleged “cover-up” of the Epstein files, noting that most documents released were old or recycled, not the files themselves.
Claims use of “softball” interview tactics with Ghislaine Maxwell, and mocks Fox News and MAGA influencers for siding with the convicted sex trafficker over her victims.
Quote:
“The Trump regime continues to cover up the Epstein files… They released the Ghislaine Maxwell interview transcripts, which just shows that the cover-up continues. I mean, softball questions. It was so obviously coordinated.”
– Benji [02:00]
Donald Trump’s continued public alignment with Vladimir Putin is flagged as a symbol of his disregard for American values and alliances.
[08:10–13:00]
Ben details how blue states financially subsidize red states, yet are continually demonized by GOP leaders.
The brothers slam the “both-sides” approach in media coverage and urge Democratic leaders to call out fascism by name.
Quote:
“When you ignore it, the big lies become reality… But when you pick these fights with people, people who are strong are going to stand up.”
– Benji [18:13]
Discusses how minority-rule red states with poor economic and crime stats dominate the political and cultural narrative.
[13:00–18:00, 28:38–33:43]
Brett draws parallels between current events and the rise of authoritarianism in other countries, notably Russia: small erosions of rights are normalized while people go about daily life, distracted by entertainment and “horse race” journalism.
Quote:
“Vladimir Putin doesn’t go into Russia and go, ‘All right, everybody, I’m a dictator. It’s happening. Guess what, it’s dictatorship time.’ That’s not how it happens… Little by little rights are eroded.”
– Brett [13:04]
Corporate media is accused of echoing Trump’s messaging, using headlines and editorial choices that reinforce authoritarian narratives or minimize genuine threats.
Quote:
“The road to fascism, the road to autocracy, is paved by legacy media networks and websites who do stuff exactly like this.”
– Brett [30:49]
Governor Pritzker and Governor Walz are praised for calling out the press and for refusing to normalize the Trump regime’s actions, urging clear framing of military deployments as authoritarian, not mere “crime crackdowns.”
[30:56–33:43]
Governor Pritzker provides detailed crime stats showing drops in violent crime in Chicago, contrasting with higher crime rates in red states, and notes Republican hypocrisy around police funding.
Quote:
“Crime is dropping in Chicago… 13 of the top 20 cities in homicide rate have Republican governors. None of these Cities is Chicago… Trump is defunding the police.”
– Governor Pritzker [30:56]
[16:53–18:13]
Jordy dubs the expanding misuse of the military and normalization of undemocratic tactics “the leaky fascist faucet,” warning against the normalization of deploying troops in U.S. cities and potential use of the military during elections.
Quote:
“I like to call it the leaky fascist faucet… They start with the National Guard in one city, then another, and another, and before you know it, they normalize it… Drip, drip, drip.”
– Jordy [16:54]
[38:07–41:32, 46:01–48:53]
Ben and Brett detail Trump’s repeated cozying up to dictators like Vladimir Putin ("Vladdy sent me this photo… Look at us in Alaska"), and to Kim Jong Un, failing to secure meaningful concessions while damaging U.S. alliances.
Quote:
“Could you imagine Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Clinton, Obama, holding up a photo with Putin… as though you’re in the honeymoon phase with your girlfriend – 'Hey, you see Vladi right here?'”
– Benji [38:07]
Examines the repercussions of Trump’s actions—Russia striking American-owned factories in Ukraine, and Trump administration’s ambivalence or overt alignment with Russian narratives.
Quote:
“Russia claims Alaska may still be part of Russia… it could not have been a bigger victory for the Russians. But again, corporate news, too afraid to report on that… Too afraid to call Donald Trump a treasonous traitor.”
– Benji [46:37]
[41:32–43:09]
Blistering account of the DOJ’s handling of the Epstein/Maxwell case, including the transfer of Ghislaine Maxwell to a more comfortable facility and the “sweetheart” immunity.
Quote:
“We’re witnessing a sweetheart deal right now with Ghislaine Maxwell covering it up, saying F you to the victims as they elevate this Ghislaine Maxwell as, like, a source of truth.”
– Brett [41:53]
[59:09–62:56]
Discussion of how right-wing media and influencers perpetuate falsehoods, change narratives on a dime, and get direct marching orders from Trump or his circle.
Grapples with how to engage with MAGA followers: sympathy for people caught in propaganda, but frustration at the abdication of moral judgment.
Quote:
“At a certain point, you’re an adult, you have to make the decision in your life, ‘Hey, is this the right decision? Is it a wrong decision? Is it a morally bankrupt decision?’”
– Jordy [62:56]
[63:12–67:56]
[68:53–74:50]
The show closes with outrage at the American response to Russian acts of aggression, contrasting Trump-world’s excuses (and excuses by VP candidate JD Vance) with Canada’s strong, clear support of Ukraine.
Quote:
“Have we lost the moral compass that we can’t even acknowledge that this isn’t even, like, a big story, right? Russia attacked America, and America just took it.”
– Benji [72:54]
Celebrates Prime Minister Carney's (Canada) leadership, contrasting her words and moral clarity with the “decomposition” of American leadership under Trump.
“You know what happens when you take a toothpick to a knife fight? You get cut… So don’t let yourself get bullied. You have to stick up for yourself, and in many cases now in 2025, be the bully.”
– Jordy [37:01]
“We are being propagandized every single day, and these people, for whatever reason… I don’t know who’s worse: is it Donald Trump, or is it these people – the Foxes, the Charlie Kirks, the Megyn Kelly’s?”
– Brett [61:05]
[76:09–78:46]
As the episode closes, Brett shares exciting personal news:
“So I’m having a kid. I’m really, you know, excited, anxious, all the feelings, all the emotions… it could happen at basically any time at this point.”
– Brett [77:12]
The brothers celebrate and reflect on family, the next generation, and their motivation to keep fighting for democracy.
| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------|---------------| | Trump regime, military deployments, Epstein files | 02:00–07:00 | | Propaganda, red v. blue states, democratic response | 08:10–13:00 | | Normalization of autocracy, media critique | 13:00–18:00 | | Pritzker on fascism and crime stats | 28:38–33:43 | | Drip-drip of “leaky fascist faucet”/National Guard | 16:53–18:13 | | Trump’s Putin photo op and Russia discussion | 38:07–41:32 | | Ghislaine Maxwell/DOJ handling of Epstein files | 41:32–43:09 | | Russia’s attack on U.S. factory/White House response | 68:53–74:50 | | Brett’s announcement: expecting a son | 76:09–78:46 |
The MeidasTouch brothers close out the episode reiterating the existential stakes for democracy, the importance of clarity in political language, and the necessity for everyday Americans to fight back against authoritarian creep. They encourage listeners to stay plugged in, review the podcast, and support independent media.