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Wow. Melania is trying to cash in on Donald Trump's cover up of his dark past, his sickening connections with Jeffrey Epstein, and his efforts to try to cover up the Epstein list and the Epstein files. What do I mean by she's trying to cash in? So yesterday she posted advertisement for her book Melania that came out a little while ago. And she posted the chapter How I Met Donald Trump. And it's actually very disturbing when you read it because there are a lot of massive question marks in Melania's past. And. Well, Melania, since you want to volunteer this to grift off of Donald Trump's cover up of his Epstein connections and the Epstein list, let's, let's delve into it. Like I think we should delve into Melania how you advertised falsely that you went to certain colleges that you never went to. I think you have a very suspicious background from Slovenia, and I think we should explore that. Look, even when you read what Melania posts from her autobiography called Melania How I Met Donald, it's deeply disturbing. I mean, she talks about how in 1998 she went to this club in Manhattan called the KitKat Club. You've seen and heard me report on the KitKat Club before, right? That is where the wealthy Manhattan men met young Eastern European women. There was a specific individual named Paolo Zampoli who ran a modeling agency for young Eastern European women. He'd bring them to the Kit Kat Club and they would throw these parties. And Donald Trump was one of the wealthy Manhattan businessmen who showed up. And that's where he met Melania. He was with another young girl or woman when he went to the Kit Kat Club that night and met Melania. And she tells that story. And in this specific chapter. So let's just go through her background. Let's go through the chapter. You're going to be shocked by some of the stuff I'm going to tell you, right? Because this was right around the time too, when Donald Trump was like best friends with Epstein, when he was palling around with Epstein, when Ghislaine Maxwell was working with Donald Trump to bring him young women. And this was talked about in the London Sunday Mirror, talked about how Ghislaine Maxwell, 1997, before any of the information about Epstein would get out, it would talk about how Ghislaine Maxwell would bring these young, beautiful women to Trump and these businessmen and they refer to Ghislaine as Madame. Madame Maxwell is how they refer to her as. So just take a look at some of the photos of what Melania looked like when she was in Slovenia. Photos here, photos there. You see her right there. Now let's take a look at Melania's Fake college degree probably forgot this story, right? CBS reported July 29, 2016 Melania Trump's wedding website taken down after Her Degree Claim is Debunked Melania Trump's website that had incorrectly claimed she had received a college degree has been removed and the address now redirects visitors to the Trump Organization's website. The website's removal was first noticed on Wednesday by the Huffington Post. In a tweet Wednesday, she said that the website in question, created in 2012, had been removed because it does not accurately reflect my current business and professional interests. Or maybe because it was false and fraudulent. The website had claimed that she had received a college degree before becoming a skin care entrepreneur and philanthropist. CBS News confirmed during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland last week in 2016 that her claim that she earned a degree in design and architecture at a university in Slovenia was false. Not true, the convention program read. After obtaining a degree in design and architecture at the University of Slovenia, Melania was jetting between photo shoots in Paris and Milan, finally settling in New York in 1996. This was a direct quote from the website. CBS News checked the official public records of the university and Melania Trump is not listed as having graduated there with a degree. Also, she plagiarized her entire speech from Michelle Obama speech at the convention. So take a look at how she describes meeting Donald Trump. And again, this was the time when Trump was as close as can be with Epstein. Hi, I'm Donald Trump. Chapter five on a Friday night in September 1998, as I settled into the comfort of my New York City apartment after a whirlwind trip to Paris, my phone rang. It was a friend of mine. My boyfriend is throwing a party at the KitKat Club tomorrow night. She said, please come. We haven't seen each other in so long. I just got back from Paris. I said please, it will be fun. A lot of people will be there. We'll pick you up. While I was tired and jet lag, I love the idea that my weekend was about to be filled with the company of friends. I have always been selective in how I choose to spend my time and where I put my energy. A late night party at the club was not my top choice for a Saturday evening. Just pause there. You were taking a lot of nudes at this time. That's what you were doing, which you've since posted about. And you said you loved your nude modeling career. Currently, Russian state regime media is posting a lot of those nude modeling photos and these weren't like the nude modeling photos that go into, like, the high art type of magazines. These were like the nude photos that go into the other type of magazines, if you know what I'm talking about. So then she goes, I didn't want to shy away from social gatherings. I accepted the invitation anyway. After all, it was Fashion Week, a time of glamor and sophistication. Like, everything she says is such bs, right? I was actually looking forward to mingling with industry insiders and trendsetters. When I stepped into the sleek black limo, my friend arrived. I felt like a celebrity en route to a gala. As we arrived, when we arrived at the Kit Kat Club, the energy of the crowd and dazzling lights greeted us. Okay, the Kit Kat Club was not that type of club. It wasn't like a beautiful gala. It was kind of like a. Like a sleazy club. Inside, the dark, crowded space buzzed with models, photographers, editors, and designers mingling. On this Fashion Week Saturday night, I settled upstairs at a table in the VIP section, where the atmosphere was one of sophistication and camaraderie. Oh, the Kit Kat Club. Oh, it resonates. A sophistication and camaraderie. Some guests dance while others engage in lively conversations. And we're all enjoying ourselves. I saw my friend wave at someone behind me. When I turned around, I noticed a man and an attractive blonde woman approaching us. Hi, I'm Donald Trump, the man said when he reached my table. Nice to meet you. I recognized the name, and I knew he was a businessman or celebrity, but not much else. He put his hand out to shake mine. Hello, I replied. I'm Melania. His eyes filled with curiosity and interest, and seizing the opportunity, took the seat next to mine and started a conversation. He asked me about my time in New York, my Slovenian home, and my world travels. It was a moment of connection, a brief encounter that left a lasting impression. It was nice to make a new acquaintance. He was accompanied by a beautiful date. So I initially dismissed our conversation as mere pleasantries exchanged at an industry event. The music was loud and the crowd boisterous, making it difficult to truly connect with someone. From the moment our conversation I began began, I was captivated by his charm and easygoing nature. So, in other words, Trump was there with another young woman. He saw Melania. That's how they met at the Kit Kat Club. It was not a place of sophistication. She starts dating him. She gets an Einstein visa in 2001. They get married, and it get. And her visa gets expedited.
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Okay, I want to dig into this report that Simon Rosenberg did at the time in 2016, right around 2016, 2017. And what he talks about is how this new AP story that came out then about Melania Trump's early days in the US Proves she and her husband had been living a lie for years. On camera in writing about her immigration path into the United States. The key passage from the AP piece the documents obtained by the Associated Press show that she was paid for 10 modeling assignments between September 10 and October 15, during a time when her visa allowed her generally to be in the US and look for work but not perform paid work in the country. The documents examined by the AP indicate that the modeling assignments would have been outside the bounds of her visa, which means, of course, that the story she has been telling for years is a fable and imaginary tale as false of the word she spoke at the Republican Convention. Work visas Trump World has never produced any documents or proven Melania ever had a work visa prior to her getting her green card in 2001. Her on camera description of her returning to work her home country to get her visa stamped every few months does not describe any work visa offered by the US Government. It suggests she was Working in the US On a tourist visa, a common thing for many models to this day, but not legal. If Melania lied about her early messy path into the US on her green card and citizenship application, she almost certainly committed what could potentially be the types of immigration crimes. Potentially. Potentially. If this is the case, I'm only saying that Donald Trump is going after other immigrants. For right now, the Washington Post piece does a very good job explaining why Melania story about her early work in the US Is hard to believe. Green card questions remain about how Melania received her green card. A Trump family lawyer said in an on camera interview with Univision that she received her green card through marriage. In the recent letter from her lawyer, which this new AP story now confirmed confirms was full of falsehoods, Melania claims for the first time ever to have received an extraordinary ability green card, AKA the Einstein visa. Few experts believe this is impossible. Few experts believe it's possible. Given that she was never a terribly successful model. It remains my opinion that until we see her actual green card and application, we should assume she received her green card through marriage. It is the only option that makes sense as her own lawyers eliminated the other likely possibilities. And imagine that Donald Trump's wife received a green card usually reserved for Nobel laureates, and he never once bragged about it in public, nor did she ever mention it in an interview or include it in her bio. Now, one of the things I want to show you is during the 2016 campaign, Donald Trump said that in two weeks or three weeks, he would hold a press conference with Melania to talk about her status, her immigration status, on which he never did. Here, play this clip.
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So she ultimately never addressed her green card status. She got married to Donald Trump and she brought her family into the United States and as I mentioned, they met at the Kit Kat Club. Paolo Zampoli helped her expedite, according to the story, expedite her visa and the rest is history. So now Melania Trump sold a documentary on, you know, she sold her story that I just read you. And there's more in her book, I suppose, to Amazon for $40 million. Jeff Bezos acquired the rights to that a few months back. I'm not sure who the hell would ever want to watch that. But she spent her time grifting, you know, off of the Trump related PACs. Her stylist, her hairdressers were getting tens of thousands of dollars a month from the Trump supporters. She would get speaking fees when she would speak at Trump related events to the tune of significant six figure fees. Whenever she would do interviews, she would demand that she gets paid. Like when she demanded that CNN paid her $250,000. I don't think they ever did that if they wanted to, if they to hear her talk. Here, by the way, is Melania with, you can see Melania literally just plagiarizing Michelle Obama's convention speech. Let me play this for you right here. Let's play it.
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The values that you work hard for what you want, for what you want in life, that your word is your bond, that you do what you say you're going to do, that you treat people with dignity and, and respect. And because we want our children and all children in this nation to know that the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work hard for them.
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You know, and I give credit to Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett for bringing up Melania's background. Here, play this clip.
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And since we're talking about integrity, I'm confused as to why my Republican colleagues aren't talking about the lack of integrity when it comes to the President's family's visas. Let me remind y' all that Melania, the first lady, a model. And when I say model, I'm not talking about Tyra Banks, Cindy Crawford or Naomi Campbell. Level applied for and was given an EB1 visa. And what that stands for is an Einstein visa. Now y' all that don't know, let me tell you how you receive an Einstein visa. You're supposed to have some sort of significant achievement like being awarded a Nobel Peace Prize or a Pulitzer, being an Olympic medalist or having other sustained, extraordinary abilities and success in sciences, arts, education, business or athletics. Last time I checked the first lady had none of those accolades under her belt. It doesn't take an Einstein to see that the math ain't math in here.
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I think about Melania selling the mean coin, which has lost like 98% of its value. I think about Melania selling symbols of America in bracelets for hundreds of dollars to people. How tacky can you be? And even though she's not selling this, this just leaves personally a bad taste in my mouth. Where the federal government failed Texas, the flash floods could have been dealt with so much better than how it was dealt with. And now they want to pretend they did a great job in Texas. But, you know, Melania and Donald Trump go out there and this is what she posts, and she goes, forever love Mystic. This bracelet will forever hold a sacred place in my heart, a quiet, shining thread to the young souls who now watch over us from heaven. Each charm carries the weight of their memory, the warmth of their presence, and will forever symbolize their love. Mystic is permanently bound through the joyous time spent together and the remembrance of their shares.
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I mean, look, to me, the sentiments of remembering these young girls who died is so important. And my heart goes out to everyone who lost their family member. It is one of the most tragic events. But there's more that we should be doing as a country than posting bracelets and charm bracelets and things. Like, when Donald Trump says, you're an evil person, if you ask what went wrong, and as you have Kristi Noah, the Homeland Security secretary, say, what happened in Texas was perfect and they want to do that in other states, I'm like, just stop it. That's not what we. I'm. I'm sick and tired of the thoughts and prayers. Look at our bracelets. Like, like, let's take action. Government needs to work. What are we doing here? Like, let's actually help the people by trying to save their lives in the first place and taking accountability when things go wrong, how about we do that? Anyway, that's the background of Melania. A deeper dive than you probably ever thought. Let me know what you think. And again, she's. She's boasting about how she met Donald Trump at the KitKat Club when he was with another girl at the club. Hell, play the thanks for watching hit. Subscribe.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Melania’s Real Past with Trump Is Back to Haunt Family"
Release Date: July 20, 2025
In this compelling episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve deep into the enigmatic past of Melania Trump, uncovering controversies surrounding her immigration status, educational background, and connections to high-profile figures like Jeffrey Epstein. Through meticulous research and engaging brotherly banter, the Meiselas brothers provide listeners with a comprehensive analysis of Melania Trump's history and its implications for the Trump family.
The episode kicks off with the host addressing the resurgence of scrutiny over Melania Trump's background, particularly focusing on her narrative surrounding her rise to prominence in the United States. The discussion sets the stage for a detailed exploration of the inconsistencies and potential deceptions in Melania's public persona.
The brothers critically examine Melania Trump's autobiography, especially the chapter titled "How I Met Donald Trump." The host expresses skepticism about the authenticity of her account, highlighting several red flags and inconsistencies.
Host (02:31): "Even when you read what Melania posts from her autobiography called Melania: How I Met Donald, it's deeply disturbing. I mean, she talks about how in 1998 she went to this club in Manhattan called the KitKat Club."
A significant portion of the discussion centers around the KitKat Club in Manhattan—a venue described as a hotspot where wealthy businessmen, including Donald Trump, mingled with young Eastern European women. The hosts connect this environment to Melania's meeting with Trump and draw parallels to his associations with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
Host (05:00): "Donald Trump was there with another young woman. He saw Melania. That's how they met at the Kit Kat Club. It was not a place of sophistication."
The podcast delves into controversies surrounding Melania's claimed education. Specifically, they investigate her assertion of earning a degree in design and architecture from the University of Slovenia—a claim that has been debunked by CBS News.
Host (07:00): "CBS News confirmed during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland last week in 2016 that her claim that she earned a degree in design and architecture at a university in Slovenia was false."
The brothers explore the complexities of Melania Trump's immigration journey, questioning the legitimacy of her green card status. They discuss the purported "Einstein visa" (EB1) and express doubts about its validity given her career achievements.
Host (09:00): "Until we see her actual green card and application, we should assume she received her green card through marriage."
Further, the podcast highlights a 2016 press conference promise by Donald Trump to address Melania's visa status, which never materialized, adding another layer of suspicion.
A critical moment in the episode is the revelation of Melania Trump's speech at a convention, which closely mirrors Michelle Obama's inaugural address. This act of plagiarism is presented as evidence of Melania's lack of originality and authenticity.
Melania Trump (17:01): "The values that you work hard for... the only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work hard for them."
The podcast features a clip from Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, who questions the integrity of Melania's visa acquisition, emphasizing that the EB1 visa is typically reserved for individuals with extraordinary achievements—a category Melania seemingly does not fit.
Jasmine Crockett (17:36): "Melania, the first lady, a model. And when I say model, I'm not talking about Tyra Banks, Cindy Crawford or Naomi Campbell... Last time I checked the first lady had none of those accolades under her belt."
The host underscores the legal ramifications, suggesting that Melania may have committed immigration offenses by working in the U.S. without proper authorization.
Transitioning from legal issues, the episode critiques Melania Trump's efforts to monetize her image. The hosts discuss her ventures, such as selling high-priced bracelets and coins, painting them as superficial attempts to capitalize on her status.
Host (18:30): "I think about Melania selling the mean coin, which has lost like 98% of its value. I think about Melania selling symbols of America in bracelets for hundreds of dollars to people. How tacky can you be?"
The podcast contrasts these activities with genuine actions, such as substantive governmental responses to crises, highlighting a perceived disconnect between public gestures and meaningful solutions.
In wrapping up, the Meiselas brothers express their disillusionment with the narrative presented by Melania Trump. They argue that the revelations about her past not only tarnish her image but also cast a shadow over the Trump family's integrity.
Host (19:35): "To me, the sentiments of remembering these young girls who died is so important... But there's more that we should be doing as a country than posting bracelets and charm bracelets and things."
The episode concludes with a call to action for more transparency and accountability, urging listeners to look beyond polished public personas to uncover the truth.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Host (02:31): "Even when you read what Melania posts from her autobiography called Melania: How I Met Donald, it's deeply disturbing."
Host (07:00): "CBS News confirmed during the Republican National Convention in Cleveland last week in 2016 that her claim that she earned a degree in design and architecture at a university in Slovenia was false."
Host (09:00): "Until we see her actual green card and application, we should assume she received her green card through marriage."
Melania Trump (17:01): "The only limit to the height of your achievements is the reach of your dreams and your willingness to work hard for them."
Jasmine Crockett (17:36): "Melania... had none of those accolades under her belt."
Host (18:30): "How tacky can you be?"
Conclusion
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast serves as an in-depth exposé on Melania Trump's past, challenging the narratives presented by her and raising critical questions about her background and authenticity. Through thorough analysis and engaging discussion, the Meiselas brothers provide listeners with a thought-provoking perspective on a figure often seen only through the lens of her public role.