MTG gets Final Revenge on Trump as his Support Collapses!!

Summary

Podcast Summary: The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: MTG gets Final Revenge on Trump as his Support Collapses!!
Host: MeidasTouch Network (Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas)
Date: May 30, 2026

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Overview

This episode explores the dramatic unraveling of the MAGA movement, with particular focus on major defections from high-profile insiders like Marjorie Taylor Greene (MTG) and conservative influencer Ashley St. Clair. The Meiselas brothers analyze how MTG’s vocal revolt and condemnations are exposing fractures within the movement, coinciding with Donald Trump's declining approval ratings and the GOP’s growing civil war. The episode also dives deeply into revelations about cult-like manipulation, foreign funding, and misogyny within MAGA ranks, providing extensive interviews and direct quotes from those turning against their former allies.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Marjorie Taylor Greene’s “Final Revenge” and GOP Civil War

• MTG’s recent social media posts are highlighted, where she openly accuses the Republican establishment and Trump himself of betraying “America First” values and orchestrating character assassinations against dissenters.
• She claims her unwavering support for Trump and the Republican party resulted in her being branded a traitor, noting the lack of public support from peers she once helped, like J.D. Vance.
• MTG specifically calls out the party for “full capture and control,” citing the Kentucky race where Thomas Massie (a true “America First-er”) was ousted via what she alleges was a smear campaign funded by AIPAC and Israeli interests.
• MTG warns that MAGA Republicans are deceiving voters about the federal budget deficit, military spending, and legislative priorities, prioritizing foreign intervention and enriching donors over solving domestic crises.

“I was Trump’s loudest champion for years… and yet my perfect conservative voting record, legislative accomplishments… ended up resulting in Donald Trump attacking me.”
— Marjorie Taylor Greene (Paraphrased by host, [03:55])

2. Data Centers, AI, and Rural Revolt

• The hosts highlight a new grassroots backlash against lax tech regulations in red states—traditional Republican voters are voicing concern over local water use, electricity costs, and AI job displacement, with some considering voting Democrat as a direct response to Trump’s positions on these issues.

“On the issue of data centers and AI… the fact that Trump wants zero regulation and wants to pollute and throw data centers in their community is enough for them to vote Democrat in the midterm.”
— Host ([07:00])

3. MAGA Defections: Ashley St. Clair’s Wake-Up Call

a) On Cult Manipulation

• Ashley St. Clair recounts her journey from deeply entrenched MAGA influencer to critic, describing her realization as a gradual disillusionment spurred by personal encounters, readings, and attempts at censorship and buyouts.

“There were moments that I would have friends who were trans… oh, wow, these are not actually evil people who want to trans all the children.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([08:58])

“I was offered something rather substantial to not speak… once you receive an offer like that, it really makes you stop and consider the gravity of your words.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([09:34])

• She reveals she turned down a lucrative offer to stay silent:

“I've turned down enough money that it is the GDP of a small nation.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([10:10])

• To MAGA critics claiming her conversion is vengeance or opportunism, she insists it came at personal cost and she is now focused on repairing the harm she believes the movement caused.

b) On Sexism and Internal Dissent

• St. Clair exposes the misogyny festering within MAGA, with many women feeling exploited and “used as pawns,” predicting this will affect turnout and loyalty in coming elections.

“The right has a big issue with what’s festering underneath in terms of the sentiment against women. They're waking up to the fact that they've also been had, that they've been used as pawns within this movement.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([13:00])

c) On Foreign Influence and Orchestrated Messaging

• She states MAGA influencers operate in clandestine group chats, receiving direction on “official” messaging and compensation from obscured sources, including consulting firms and laundered money from foreign governments.

“All of these people are within these group chats and being told exactly what to say during the campaign.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([14:06])

“...paid trips to Israel, paid trips to Russia. There’s Qatari money flowing in and out.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([14:53])

d) On Racism and “Owning the Libs”

• St. Clair, in a candid segment, acknowledges MAGA’s central motivators as racism and hate, recounting first-hand text messages from Trump advisor Stephen Miller strategizing on amplifying “white boy” turnout.

“I think they’re just hateful racists… what bonds them together is hate and that they weren’t cool in high school.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([17:03])

e) On Benny Johnson and Internal Threats

• She directly threatens to expose right-wing personality Benny Johnson, who she accuses of running elaborate grifts and warns he cannot cover up his past behavior.

“I have been sitting on the receipts of you for far too long… And I will remind you that if you live in a glass house, stop throwing stones for your little Facebook dollars. Ttfn, you’re next.”
— Ashley St. Clair ([17:14])

4. Cultural Collapse of MAGA

• Hosts note that Trump and MAGA are increasingly losing influence in the cultural spheres of music and sports. Artists and athletes are distancing themselves, publicly denouncing Trump, or canceling appearances at MAGA events.

“Trump lost the culture. He should never have had the culture in the first place… But now you see the music acts that said they were going to perform at the Freedom 250 not performing there and backing out and saying we were defrauded by the Trump regime.”
— Host ([18:11])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• MTG’s Disavowal: “[The] Republican Party is something I can no longer support or want to do with… The capture is complete. What are you going to do about it?” (Paraphrased, [04:42])
• St. Clair on Cult Mentality: “There’s a reason that they want to keep people away from CRT, from certain language, the information sequestering that they do… All of these things are labeled as propaganda.” ([09:00])
• Foreign Influence Admission: “Some of these funding methods are hidden through various different companies… you’ll never find [the Qatari money] because it’s laundered.” ([15:01])
• Cultural Turn: “We have athletes again, NFL players speaking out… after seeing Donald Trump’s trying to use football for his advantage.” ([18:15])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• MTG’s Declaration & Party Critique: [01:44] – [07:30]
• Data Centers/AI as MAGA Breaking Point: [07:23] – [08:30]
• Ashley St. Clair’s Interview & Exposé: [08:50] – [17:12]
  • Wake-up call & Exit from MAGA: [08:50] – [11:10]
  • Misogyny within MAGA: [12:37] – [13:47]
  • Foreign funding & group chats: [14:03] – [15:14]
  • Racism and “Owning the Libs”: [15:15] – [17:09]
  • Benny Johnson threat: [17:14] – [18:07]
• MAGA’s Cultural Breakdown: [18:07] – [End]

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Conclusion

This episode provides a thorough and often blistering inside look at the ongoing collapse of the MAGA movement as high-profile insiders like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ashley St. Clair publicly break away. The hosts use their signature candor and humor to dissect confessions of “cult” manipulation and foreign influence while highlighting that Trump’s grasp on both the GOP and American culture is finally slipping. For anyone following U.S. political realignment or interested in the forces shaping the post-MAGA landscape, this episode offers direct testimony, sharp analysis, and entertaining, revealing banter.

Transcript

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[Narrator/Commentator]

Greene is getting her final revenge on Donald Trump and she's bringing down the MAGA cult. It does seem like the bottom has dropped out this past week on Donald Trump and MAGA has his approval now sinking in the very low 30s and even lower even on state regime media, fox polls. Donald Trump's approval on the economy's now in the 20s and Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying, hey, I'm going to expose you every step of the way. Marjorie Taylor Greene posted the following we just said goodbye to our good friend Thomas and Carolyn Massie. The civil war in the Republican Party is successfully gutting the true American firsters like myself, Thomas and others. But I don't think most Americans realize the extent of what's happening, how bad it is and what it's going to produce. After taking the hard principled stand against the war with Iran in June 2025 and releasing the Epstein files, the neocon controlled Republican establishment now backed by the President set out to destroy us. Thomas and I took two different routes but ended up in the same place which delivered a message to our colleagues to never go against the President even on issues he himself promised to do, and at the same time delivered the louder, stronger message to the American people that no matter what they say on tv rally stages, committee hearings, campaign campaign ads or stump speeches, Republicans and Trump have overwhelmingly rejected America first and will do anything possible to cut the head off anyone who tries to fly its banner. The extent and extremes to which they have gone should shock everybody. And she goes for me, I was Trump's loudest champion for years, supporting him when no one else would. And she says, and yet my perfect conservative voting record, legislative accomplishments in the House ended up resulting in Donald Trump attacking me. She said it suddenly meant nothing to low educated Republicans that are easily manipulated by bot armies and bought and paid for social media influencers that spread lies about me. She goes on to say, after supporting the Republican Party by paying all of my dues, every Congress endorsing and campaigning for Republican candidates, spending millions and traveling the country to get Trump elected to be called a traitor and not a single Republican, even the ones I helped get elected, like J.D. vance and others, not to utter a word of public support, support for me, it became abundantly clear that the Republican Party is something I can no longer support or want to do with. They're under full capture and control, she says. She goes what they just did to Thomas Massie is unforgivable. She said they told lies to Kentucky's 4th district that Massie was liberal Democrat. She goes on to say, even though all of it was horrific lives proven with his own 14 year impeccable America First Liberty driven record, naive older voters in his district were easily fooled by the AIPAC in Israel, funded campaign lies and voted for a new candidate who refused every single debate with Thomas Massie and has no voting record to prove what he stands for at all. The capture is complete. What are you going to do about it? This is then in response to the following I'll tell you what Marjorie Taylor Greene's response was. The federal government is targeting anti AI and anti data center activists. They are formulating a new threat category anti tech violent extremism. Full articles in the reply and Marjorie Taylor Greene responds. How dare the peasants complain about data centers stealing their water and driving the cost of electricity. How dare the peasants complain I will replace their jobs. The peasants citizens are dangerous extremists if they don't shut up and comply. And I've been seeing a lot of videos in red states of people who have voted Republican, voted MAGA their entire adult life who said on the issue of data centers, on the issue of AI, in addition to all the other issues, but specifically data centers and AI, the fact that Trump wants zero regulation and wants to pollute and throw data centers in their community is enough for them to vote Democrat in the midterm. Find that very, very, very interesting. Also, Marjorie Taylor Greene posted The federal budget deficit is expected to be over $2 trillion this year based on Trump's budget, the largest in history Outside of 2020 and 2021 due to Covid, the debt passed 100% of the economy in March, and interest on the debt will be more than $1 trillion this year. America has a financial crisis that needs to be addressed more than any foreign war or foreign interest. As Americans, we are regardless of our political leanings and when the boat sinks, we all sink together and suffer the same fate. Make America great again should be putting America first. And that should start with getting our financial house in order. MAGA Republicans want to lie and say the big beautiful bill cut $2 trillion in spending. No, it didn't. You've added trillions and trillions of dollars in debt. You've increased the deficit significantly. You're asking for a $1.5 trillion military is like a 80% increase in where we were from like two years ago. So you can commit more war crimes. You're ripping away people's health care. You're destroying people's future right now. And I think the spell of MAGA is being broken. And so, as I noted at the outset and as we see in the title, Marjorie Taylor Greene bringing down the MAGA cult and getting her revenge. And we've seen this now throughout the country. Some of the biggest MAGA influencers, some of the biggest MAGA personalities are speaking out, are coming out and letting people know that they were in a cult. This is happening at a mass scale. Have you all seen Ashley St Clair? She's now the mother of one of Elon Musk's child or child. She was deep in the MAGA cult. She'll admit that she was in the MAGA cult like Marjorie Taylor Greene was. And she comes out a little bit on the other side side as well, where she's talking about, actually for me, she says it's about love, it's compassion, it's empathy. And she goes, I realized what a hateful movement I was in and what a cult it is. And she talks about how the main influencers in the movement are also being funded by foreign influencers. And she knows because she's in the chats with them and she speaks with them and she knows their secrets and she's exposing it. So you have Marjorie Taylor Greene, you have Ashley Sinclair. Here's Ashley Sinclair on Zetia. So here's what she says. Let's play this clip.

[Interviewer]

What was your wake up call? What did you read? What did you see? Who did you talk to that made you think, you know what? I've gotten this all wrong for the last few years.

[Ashley St. Clair]

There were a lot of things, it happened slowly and then all at once. So there were moments that I would have friends who were trans that I was like, oh, wow, these are not actually evil people who want to trans all the children. There were moments that I would read certain items and I'm embarrassed to say, but I had never read a slave narrative until my mid-20s. And there's a reason that they want to keep people away from crt, from certain language, the information sequestering that they do. You're not allowed to read the mainstream media. All of these things are labeled as propaganda. Don't trust your professors. In fact, you should report them to Charlie Kirk's professor watch list. And then there was a moment where I had to make a decision, which I was offered something rather substantial to not speak. And once you receive an offer like that, it really makes you stop and consider the gravity of your words, why your voice is worth so much money, and make a decision on your integrity. And if you actually want to have any.

[Interviewer]

You turned down that offer.

[Ashley St. Clair]

I did.

[Interviewer]

Was it from Elon Musk?

[Ashley St. Clair]

I'm not at liberty to discuss, but I've turned down enough money that it is the GDP of a small nation.

[Interviewer]

Wow. Wonder how small a nation. Many who are skeptical of you attribute your shift to being burned by Elon Musk and Maga. What do you say to your critics on the liberal left who believe your new views are just a convenient way to retaliate against your old friends?

[Ashley St. Clair]

Well, first of all, I'm not making any money from this. I'm back in school. I just finished out my semester with 22 credits and I plan to go to law school. That's what I want to do. I want to start fighting and making amends within the system that I believe is perpetuating a lot of harm. And secondly, people are putting the, you know, the chicken before the egg or the horse before the carriage. Because when I came out publicly, I knew what the reaction of MAGA was going to be. I was within this cult for almost a decade. I knew exactly how they were going to Respond to me. And I was ready to be ostracized. I was ready to be done with MAGA and that cult.

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[Narrator/Commentator]

with dupe.com More from Ashley Sinclair here. Here's where she talks about how MAGA is so anti women and how they attack women over and over again. Here, play this clip.

[Ashley St. Clair]

And they were deceived. And none of this is anything that he campaigned on. Whether it's from the Epstein files to Israel to, you know, the big beautiful ballroom. This is all atrocious. And it's the American people who are suffering.

[Interviewer/Host]

I assume you hear from people like, do you hear from people that you knew from TPUSA or Babylon B days or MAGA days? Like, what, what, what do they think about all this?

[Ashley St. Clair]

I do. And there's people that have espoused to me that they, they feel stuck. They know what's wrong and they feel stuck. And I will tell you that the right has a big issue with what's festering underneath in terms of the sentiment against women. There are a lot of women from the right who still keep in communication with me and they see what's happening, and especially as it relates to the rhetoric against women on the right. They're not just turning a blind eye to this and it's going to impact them, whether in the midterms or 2020. They're waking up to the fact that they've also been had, that they've been used as pawns within this French movement.

[Narrator/Commentator]

How would you recommend more from Ashley St. Clair over here talking about how, how MAGA influencers, she says, are funded by foreign influence operations and foreign powers and foreign countries. Play this clip.

[Interviewer/Host]

MAGA influencers, the official Trump war room.

[Ashley St. Clair]

All of these people are within these group chats and being told exactly what

[Interviewer/Host]

to say during the campaign. They also had campaign calls with influencers

[Ashley St. Clair]

such as myself, in which they said,

[Interviewer/Host]

hey, here's how we want to respond to things.

[Ashley St. Clair]

Here's the messaging that we're going to stay on.

[Interviewer/Host]

Good work, soldiers.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Was there ever anyone expressing behind the

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scenes, ah, this feels a little bit weird.

[Ashley St. Clair]

Not really.

[Narrator/Commentator]

And then who's this? If there's paid campaigns, who is paying for those campaigns?

[Ashley St. Clair]

Everyone and anyone. And what's astonishing is some of these funding methods are hidden through various different companies or consulting firms.

[Interviewer/Host]

So you really don't know where a

[Ashley St. Clair]

lot of the money is coming from.

[Interviewer/Host]

And these also have paid trips to

[Ashley St. Clair]

Israel, paid trips to Russia.

[Interviewer/Host]

There's Qatari money flowing in and out. So much Qatari money in Republican politics

[Ashley St. Clair]

that that just you'll never find because it's laundered.

[Narrator/Commentator]

And then Ashley Sinclair was on I've had it podcast. You know, I love I've had it podcast. Here's what she had to say. Let's play it.

[Interviewer/Host]

And they say so much like, oh, it's not a victimhood mentality. It's not this, it's not that. But they live in the biggest victimhood mentality that they think the biggest issue is trans people, that they think it's going to take away from them so much. If you recognize black literature. Reading my first slave narrative at 25, I was like, no wonder they don't

[Ashley St. Clair]

want me reading this because this is horrific. And so like I.

[Interviewer/Host]

And then consuming black literature, like reading Robinson, reading Du Bois, reading these, these things that I wasn't allowed to read because I was told it was anti white propaganda. And just read what you're not supposed to read, what they're telling you. How racist is the movement?

[Ashley St. Clair]

It's pretty racist.

[Interviewer/Host]

That's what I mean. I think it's just, would you say that's at the epicenter of it and Then also owning the lips, coming more and more at the epicenter of it. It wasn't so much before, but people like Stephen Miller have really, like, you know, I've text from Stephen Miller where he's like, we need white boys. Oh, yeah, you have text from Stephen Miller. Used to text me every day during the election. Share this I don't. I. Every time I've seen him, he's sitting down at the board with a drink, so don't know. He. What would he text you when he'd. What he would ask for retweets during the election? Would you say white boy, White boy November? He's like, we need the white boys. This is going to be White boy November. Like, he's just a loser. And so, like, he's begging me for retweets. He's like, we need to get. Wait, hold on. So that guy is reaching out to you to reach. They're all so insecure. Losers. Yeah. Yeah, I knew that. I knew all of this.

[Ashley St. Clair]

That's why I don't care.

[Interviewer/Host]

I'm like, who am I and how badly do they want to own the lip? Would you say that is the driving force, like, the ethos that, like, bonds them together, Owning the libs? No, I think they're just hateful racists.

[Ashley St. Clair]

Like, Like. No, I think what bonds them together

[Interviewer/Host]

is hate and that they weren't cool in high school.

[Narrator/Commentator]

And here were her final words to Benny Johnson. You could hear for yourself. Let's play it.

[Interviewer/Host]

So, Benny, I have been sitting on the receipts of you for far too long. You and your sociopathic behavior and the way you operate and your businesses and your grift. So you want to go, Benny, you want to talk about my children and make this personal? Let's go. Because I have been sitting on this for far too long. And guess what? A lot of people have been sitting on things about you for far too long. And I will remind you that if you live in a glass house, stop throwing stones for your little Facebook dollars. Ttfn, you're next. And Benny, I wouldn't even try to retroactively delete anything on telegram because I backed it all up years ago. Many, many moons ago, because I've known

[Ashley St. Clair]

you're a piece of shit.

[Narrator/Commentator]

So, folks, between Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ashley St. Clair, this MAGA movement is crumbling right now before our eyes. And don't even get me started on sports and music. Trump lost the culture. He should never have had the culture in the first place. But there was that moment at the beginning of his term where the football players were doing the stupid dance of his and it was like don't you all realize what a bad human being he is and how he hates you and don't you understand the history of him? And now, I mean it took a while but now you see the music acts that said they were going to perform at the Freedom 250 not performing there and backing out and saying we were defrauded by the Trump regime. We have athletes again, NFL players speaking out after seeing Donald Trump's trying to use football for his advantage. We're seeing that at large and it's an important development and this week more than ever I think we really saw that accelerate. Tell me what you think in the comments below. Hit subscribe let's get to 7 million subscribers. Thanks so much for watching everybody. New Midas merch head to store.midastouch.com today and get yourself the best pro democracy gear and show your support. That's store.midas touch.com.