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Political Commentator
It is an undisputed fact right now that Donald Trump is covering up his dark and sick past behavior. And there's a major development this week that's also explaining why Donald Trump likely directed Pam Bondi and Todd Blanches, number one and number two at the DOJ to say that the Epstein list doesn't exist and to shut down the investigation and to shut down the efforts to release the Epstein files. And that is the United States Supreme Court is getting ready to hear the final appeal opportunity by one of Donald Trump's former best friends, Ghislaine Maxwell, who sex trafficked for Jeffrey Epstein. She was convicted in connection with the trafficking and basically put in jail or prison for the rest of her life. She's appealing that conviction and that prison sentence, and now it's going all the way up to the Supreme Court. And according to the Daily Mail and other sources, um, she says that she's got the list, she's got the files, she wants to drop names, and she's willing and able and ready to do it, um, depending on if a deal can be worked out with the Trump regime and the Trump doj. So we need to follow what's going on in the Ghislaine Maxwell criminal appeal all the way up to the United States Supreme Court. This is the headline right now from the Daily Mail. This is their exclusive. Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, is ready to reveal the truth of the pedophile client list, says insiders. So why are Republicans blocking her? Adam Cochran explains it as thus. Well, there you go. Maxwell is appealing to the Supreme Court. Sources who have spoke on her behalf to news outlets in the past say she's ready to share the Epstein list in exchange for a non prosecution deal. She's signaling to Trump she's ready to talk. And if the Supreme Court appeal doesn't go her way, she'll release the trial. Unless something is worked out. This is likely why he is suddenly so desperate to bury the list. If the list is, quote, fake or doesn't exist, then Maxwell's trial was on false grounds and false pretext, and she'd be eligible for a retrial where a lot of evidence was thrown out. There is a genuine chance that she now may be able to walk as a result of Donald Trump saying that. That the Epstein list doesn't exist and that there are no Epstein files. Let me break that down so you. So you understand it. So at first, Donald Trump's Department of Justice, it was actually Donald Trump's criminal defense lawyer, Todd Blanche, who became the number two, the deputy Attorney General. He works directly under the Attorney General, Pam Bondi. And they released that memo, which he said they released with Cash Patel and, and Dan Bongino, the FBI director and deputy Deputy FBI Director, respectfully saying that there is no Epstein list, there are no Epstein files, and the FBI shutting down all of its investigative work. So then the MAGA people were freaking out and they pissed. They were pissed off. They were saying, why did you bring the MAG influencers to hold up phase one Epstein list binders? Why'd you say you had the Epstein list on your desk? Pam Bondi? Why have all of these MAGA influencers been grifting off of the release of the Epstein files? And now you're saying it doesn't even exist. So were you lying about a list to cover up for pedos and for sex traffickers? I mean, that's what you were doing. Or does this list exist and Trump is covering it up because he's on the list? We all know that Donald Trump is deeply connected to Jeffrey Epstein. I've done numerous videos on that. Right? But then on Saturday, Donald Trump does that post where Trump says the files do exist. Remember, he says they do exist, but it is a Democratic hoax, he says. And Obama and Hillary Clinton and James Comey and others created the files as part of a massive hoax to hurt Donald Trump and to hurt Republicans. Now, the MAGA Republicans weren't buying that. But I just want you to put yourself in the shoes now of Delaine Maxwell. Now, she's been convicted in a trial where all of this evidence was introduced about her aiding in abetting Epstein's conduct and that there was a list and that they were involved in all of these things together and involved in sex trafficking together. And by the way, a lot of what went down went down at Mar a Lago. More on that in a moment. So now one of the arguments that she'll be able to make and she'll go, the President of the United States is now saying that the Epstein situation is a hoax, that it isn't real, that it was made up by, by Democrats, by Obama and Clinton, and that none of this is real. And so she'll say if the President of the United States is making public statements that none of this is real. I should have been able to introduce that at my criminal trial. I wasn't. I deserve a retrial. So is Donald Trump. You get, you make the connection now by saying that could Donald Trump be helping Ghislaine get the retrial? And that will silence her from releasing the list if the United States Supreme Court does not grant her her appeal to reevaluate her sentencing or to overturn her conviction. You see how that works. And it's a horrific thing that Donald Trump's post may now allow Ghislaine Maxwell to get a retrial. What it also is allowing, not may, but is, is that you have Prince Andrew, who was previously basically banned from coming to the United States. Andrew's now able to head to the United States. He's one of the people on the list that Donald Trump claims doesn't exist. He was one of the people with Ghislaine Maxwell. He was being investigated in his connections with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. And now he's out and about partying. He's like, woo hoo, I'm gonna go to the United States now. I can go wherever because Trump and the FBI just did me a solid. I am free, no longer have to worry about any of this. I have a basic question. You know, Donald Trump is Doe 174 in connection with a lot of these civil cases against Epstein. He's, he's numbered Doe 174. So if there's Doe 1 74, wouldn't there be 173 and 175 and 1234? So wouldn't that be a list of people? I mean, just right then and there and you. I've done this analysis over and over again, but for those just watching for the first time, let me just do it super quickly. About 10% of all of the Epstein files have been released. There's about 90% that hasn't. Because there have been civil and criminal cases where the judge has released some things from that 10%. I would say if you run it through ChatGPT and say, what's the name of someone who's on that, on those documents more than anybody else, you'd probably get the answer of Donald Trump. Why in 2020, in 2002, Donald Trump said Epstein's a great guy. He likes women. On the younger side, Virginia Giuffre, who underage girl who since recently died by suicide. She was underage at the time. She was trafficked from from Mar a Lago. You had Ghislaine Maxwell, the sex trafficker for Epstein, went to Mar a Lago. Virginia Giuffre was working underage at Mar a Lago. And then Ghislaine Maxwell found her, brought her to Epstein and she was sex trafficked. Here's what Ghislaine had to here's what Virginia Giuffre had to say about being sex trafficked by Ghislaine. Here, play this clip.
Virginia Giuffre
Virginia Roberts was working in the spa at Donald Trump's Mar A Lago club in Palm beach when British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell introduced her to multimillionaire Jeffrey Epstein.
The training started immediately. I mean, it was everything down to how to give a blowjob, how to be quiet, be subservient, give Jeffrey what he wants. A lot of this training came from Ghislaine herself. And being a woman, it kind of surprises you that a woman could actually let stuff like that happen. But not only let it happen, but to groom you into doing it. And then there's Jeffrey who's telling you, I want it this way. No, go slower and don't do that and do this.
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Political Commentator
Now, Donald Trump is on Epstein's flight logs and again, only a small portion have been produced. About seven times. He's all over the Epstein depositions from victims of Epstein who had been sex trafficked by him. They said, look, we're going to the Trump Atlantic City and Epstein's calling Trump. At Ghislaine Maxwell's criminal trial, a now a woman, but at the time an underage girl who was a Jane Doe. But when she was 14 years old, she said that Epstein and Ghislaine Lane introduced her to Donald Trump in 2024. Donald Trump used Epstein's jet for the 2024 Trump campaign. They just wrapped it in Trump 2024 letters. Um, I, I can do one 74. I can go on and on and on here. But here was Donald Trump at Elaine Maxwell's sex trafficking case saying that he wishes her well when he was asked, what do you want to say to her? Here, play this clip.
Interviewer
Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. And I know you've talked in the past about Prince Andrew and you've criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?
Donald Trump
I don't know. I haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well. Frankly, I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm beach and I guess they lived in Palm beach, but I wish her well, whatever it is. I don't know the situation with Prince Andrew. Just don't know. Not aware of it, Mr. President.
Political Commentator
But then when he was asked by Axios, why'd you wish her well? I mean, she's a sex trafficker. Why wouldn't you wish her bad? I mean, we don't. Why would you wish sex traffickers well? Here, play this clip.
Reporter
Mr. President, the other day a reporter asked you about Ghislaine Maxwell. You said, quote, I just wish her well. Frankly, I've met her numerous times. Over the years, especially since I lived in Palm Beach. But I wish her well, whatever it is. Mr. President, Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested on allegations of child sex trafficking. Why would you wish such a person well?
Donald Trump
I don't know that, but I do.
Reporter
Know that she has, she's been arrested for that.
Donald Trump
Her friend or boyfriend, Epstein was either killed or committed suicide in jail. She's now in jail.
Interviewer
Uh huh.
Political Commentator
Yeah.
Donald Trump
I wish her well. I'd wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well. Good luck. Let them prove somebody was guilty. I mean, you do know that.
Reporter
Oh, so you're saying you hope she doesn't die in jail? Is that what you mean by wish her well?
Donald Trump
Her boyfriend died in jail and people are still trying to figure out how did it happen? Was it suicide, Was he killed? And I do wish her well. I'm not looking for anything bad for her, I'm not looking bad for anybody. And they took that.
Virginia Giuffre
And I mean, she's a child.
Donald Trump
Sex trafficking, big deal. But all it is is her boyfriend died, he died in jail. Was he killed? Was it suicide? I do, I wish her well.
Political Commentator
Yeah, that was another massive red flag right there. And by the way, Donald Trump's biographer, who was also going to be Epstein's biographer, but he never ended up writing the biography for Epstein. Michael Wolf, he recently sat down and did an interview and he said, I've seen the photos with Trump and Epstein with the naked girls. I mean, he said he's seen him. Here, play this clip.
Virginia Giuffre
Oh, that these pictures exist and I can, I can describe them. There are about a dozen of them. The ones I specifically remember is, is two of them with topless girls of an uncertain age sitting on Trump's lap. And then Trump standing there with a, with a stain on the front of his pants and three or four girls kind of bent over in laughter. They're topless. To pointing at Trump's pants.
Political Commentator
And then we had Michael Wolf on the Midas touch and he said if you, he goes, When I was interviewing Trump, I was specifically told you could basically talk to him about anything, but you can't talk to him about Epstein. If you talk to him about Epstein, he's not going to answer the questions. Here, play this clip.
Virginia Giuffre
No, and I think the thing you have to return to here is, you know, I mean, Donald Trump has gotten away with literally everything and it turns out to be one of his greatest gifts. And, and what is that? You know, because of, it's the, it's the incredible advantage of shame Utter shamelessness or a, you know, I remember Steve Bannon said, said to me once that if the, if the famous pee tapes were ever found, Trump would just say, that's not me. And it wouldn't matter if it, if it looked like Donald Trump, if he walked like Donald Trump, it wouldn't matter. He would just deny it. And somehow, again, hiding in plain sight this long relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Trump has just waved it away, swept it under the rug, ignored it and gotten away with it. Does that change?
Interviewer
I.
Virginia Giuffre
Probably not, but maybe, you know, he is a master of distraction to distract people from all the problems he's created. And at the same time, he, he is distracted by this one question of maybe others, but this one for sure, you know, I think it's a difficult question for him. I know once, once when I was. This was in Mar a Lago, I went to sit, have a. Sit down with him and in his aides just asked me, you know, a rough outline of what I wanted to talk about. And I had a lot of subjects. But I said, I also said Epstein. And they said, and they said, you know, if, if you ask about that, he'll just stop the interview and you won't get anything. So this person said, I recommend you can ask about anything, but I really recommend you not ask that if you, if you hope to, for this interview to go on.
Political Commentator
And of course, we also learned that during his first term, Donald Trump was considering pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell. And by the way, it's not just Trump. Others in his administration have ties to Epstein as well. RFK Jr. Here's what he had to say. Here, play this clip. You weren't ever on Jeffrey Epstein's jet, were you?
Interviewer
I was on Jeffrey Epstein's jet two times. I was on it in 1993, and I was on it and I went to Florida with my wife and two children to visit my mom over Easter. My, My wife had some kind of relationship with Glenn Maxwell and they offered us a ride to Palm Beach. So I went then. And then I'm another occasion. I flew again with my family with I think, four of my children and, and Mary, my wife, to Rapid City, South Dakota to go fossil hunting for a weekend. And, but other otherwise, I was, I was never on his jet alone. I, you know, I've been very open about this from the beginning. This was in 93, so it was 30 years ago. It was before anybody knew about Jeffrey Epstein's, you know, his nefarious issues. And I agree with you that these all of this information should be released and we should get real answers on what happened to Jeffrey Epstein and any of the high level political people that he was involved with. All of that should be open to the public. It should be absolutely transparent. And you know, I don't see why any of those records would have any redactions in them. Why would we be hiding that from the American public?
Political Commentator
So this is a big development now because the Supreme Court has the opportunity to hear Ghislaine Maxwell's case. We'll see what they do. That's going to be decided soon. Is she then regardless of what the outcome is before the Supreme Court does she now go and say hey I need a retrial? The President of the United States says that my entire case was a hoax and isn't real and I got an unfair trial because listen to what he has to say. I wonder if she goes in that direction and does she now hold the list over his head And Donald Trump effectively, you know, is, is now is subservient is going to that whatever she wants to do basically. So we will see. We'll keep you posted every step of the way. Subverting his the word I was looking for was subverting his and the national interest in favor of someone who was convicted of sex trafficking. And then what about all of the victims out there? Anyway hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast: "OMG! Ghislaine Goes Nuclear as Trump Covers It Up" - Detailed Summary
Release Date: July 14, 2025
In this compelling episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve deep into the explosive developments surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell's legal battles and former President Donald Trump's alleged involvement in covering up connections to Jeffrey Epstein. The episode, titled "OMG! Ghislaine Goes Nuclear as Trump Covers It Up," offers a thorough analysis of recent events, insights from key figures, and the potential implications for American democracy.
The episode opens with a Political Commentator discussing Ghislaine Maxwell's recent legal maneuvers:
Timestamp [00:30]: Maxwell, convicted for her role in Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking operations, is appealing her conviction to the United States Supreme Court. According to sources like the Daily Mail, Maxwell claims to possess the infamous "Epstein list" of high-profile individuals involved in Epstein's activities. She is reportedly willing to release this information in exchange for a non-prosecution deal with the Trump administration and the Department of Justice (DOJ).
Quote [00:30]: "Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, is ready to reveal the truth of the pedophile client list, says insiders."
The hosts emphasize the significance of this appeal, suggesting that Maxwell's potential revelation of the Epstein list could have far-reaching consequences, especially if a deal is orchestrated to silence her.
The conversation shifts to examining Donald Trump's role and the DOJ's recent statements:
Timestamp [02:00]: The Political Commentator explains that Trump's former criminal defense lawyer, Todd Blanche, now the deputy Attorney General under Pam Bondi, asserted that the "Epstein list" and associated files do not exist, effectively shutting down investigations.
Quote [02:15]: "The DOJ released a memo stating there is no Epstein list, shutting down all investigative work."
This dismissal has caused unrest among Trump supporters and MAGA influencers, who are now questioning the credibility of previous claims about possessing the Epstein files.
Timestamp [04:20]: The hosts discuss Trump's contradictory statements. Initially, Trump denied the existence of the Epstein files but later admitted their existence, labeling them a "Democratic hoax."
Quote [04:50]: "Donald Trump is deeply connected to Jeffrey Epstein. I've done numerous videos on that."
This inconsistency raises suspicions about a potential cover-up to protect individuals on the alleged Epstein list, including Trump himself.
The hosts delve into the possible outcomes if Maxwell secures a retrial:
Timestamp [05:30]: If Maxwell successfully appeals her conviction, it could lead to the introduction of new evidence or the reopening of her case, potentially unearthing names of powerful individuals involved in Epstein's trafficking network.
Quote [07:00]: "Maxwell could hold the Epstein list over Trump's head, subverting national interest in favor of someone convicted of sex trafficking."
This scenario threatens to destabilize political figures who may be implicated, reigniting public outrage and demands for accountability.
The discussion highlights Prince Andrew's predicament in light of recent developments:
Timestamp [08:06]: Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein victim, recounts her experiences at Mar-a-Lago and her interactions with both Epstein and Prince Andrew.
Quote [08:16]: "Virginia Roberts was working in the spa at Donald Trump's Mar A Lago club... Ghislaine Maxwell introduced her to Jeffrey Epstein."
With Trump's DOJ downplaying the existence of the Epstein files, individuals like Prince Andrew, previously under scrutiny, now find themselves unbanned and actively participating in social events, raising questions about the selective justice being administered.
The podcast examines Trump's public comments regarding Maxwell and Epstein:
Timestamp [11:30]: An Interviewer questions Trump about Maxwell's willingness to divulge names, to which Trump responds ambiguously.
Quote [12:05]: Trump states, "I just wish her well... Good luck. Let them prove somebody was guilty."
This non-committal stance is perceived by the hosts as an attempt to distance himself from Maxwell's actions while avoiding direct acknowledgment of her potential revelations.
Additionally, testimonials from individuals like Michael Wolf, Trump's biographer, are scrutinized:
Timestamp [13:51]: Wolf claims to have seen explicit photos linking Trump and Epstein, which he was instructed not to discuss publicly.
Quote [14:21]: "If you talk to him about Epstein, he's not going to answer the questions."
This behavior is analyzed as indicative of a broader strategy to deflect accountability and maintain plausible deniability.
The episode also touches upon other political figures with ties to Epstein:
Timestamp [16:55]: RFK Jr. admits to being on Epstein's jet twice, both times accompanied by family members. He emphasizes that these interactions occurred before Epstein's criminal activities were widely known.
Quote [17:10]: "These records should be open to the public. It should be absolutely transparent."
This admission adds another layer to the intricate web of connections between Epstein and prominent political personalities, fueling public demand for transparency.
Concluding the episode, the hosts speculate on the potential outcomes of Maxwell's Supreme Court appeal and the broader implications for those involved in the Epstein scandal:
Timestamp [18:34]: The Political Commentator predicts that Maxwell might leverage presidential statements to push for a retrial, thereby threatening to expose the alleged Epstein list.
Quote [19:00]: "Donald Trump effectively... subverting the national interest in favor of someone who was convicted of sex trafficking."
The hosts urge listeners to stay informed as the situation evolves, emphasizing the importance of holding powerful individuals accountable.
Throughout the episode, excerpts from interviews and testimonies are interspersed to provide firsthand accounts:
Virginia Giuffre's Testimony [08:06]: Describes her introduction to Jeffrey Epstein and the harrowing experiences that followed.
Donald Trump's Interview [11:30 - 13:08]: Offers his、公 ambiguous stance on Maxwell's case and her connections to Epstein.
RFK Jr.'s Admission [16:55]: Confirms his presence on Epstein's jet and calls for transparency regarding the records.
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast presents a detailed and engaging exploration of the ongoing saga involving Ghislaine Maxwell's legal battles and Donald Trump's alleged efforts to obscure connections to Jeffrey Epstein. Through incisive analysis, compelling testimonials, and strategic questioning, the Meiselas brothers shed light on the potential ramifications for American democracy and the pursuit of justice. Listeners are left contemplating the intricate interplay between power, accountability, and the quest for truth in one of the most controversial scandals of recent times.
For those interested in staying updated with these unfolding events, The MeidasTouch Podcast continues to provide in-depth coverage and live discussions. Subscribe and join the MeidasMighty community to engage with the latest insights and analyses.