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And Congressman, you did mention Ghislaine Maxwell, who's convicted sex trafficker and sex abuser. The the NBC is reporting that her prison emails shows she is much, quote, happier at this minimum security Texas facility that she was moved to. There are reports of special treatment at that she was moved after speaking with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch. Are you investigating that? Does that concern you in any way?
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Well, let me just say this straight up. Anybody that's in Texas is happier, but.
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One would, one would hope a sexual trafficker would not be treated that way, sir.
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Well, that, what seriously, what? Then you have MAGA Republican Congressmember Buddy Carter play this clip that's pushed for.
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These files to be released. And, and now we're seeing it kind of backfire in their face. What do you make of all of this?
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Well, this is nothing more than a distraction.
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What? Okay, maybe, J.D. vance, you want to talk about health care? What's, what's your view about extending the ACA subsidies? Let's play this clip.
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Care prices and premium prices and so on and so forth. What does that look like? Is it a reconciliation plan? Walk us through what happens. So what's so crazy about this, Matt? Is the government shut down? We had a meeting with Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer in the Oval Office. Is this where they get President Trump in MAGA hats? Yeah, this is. No, no, not, not just that, but the president whispers to one of his personal assistants. They're all very good people. And she kind of runs off. And I think to myself immediately, oh, what the hell have I gotten myself into? And she comes back with two Trump 20, 28 hats. But what about the economy, J.D. okay, tell me about the economy. And even though we've made incredible progress, we Understand that there's a lot more work to do. And the thing that I'd ask for the American people is a little bit of patience. A little bit of patience from the people who said in 24 hours they were going to bring down prices. Little bit. Your workers, your. Your year is coming in 2027 and 2028. And finally, just what about foreign policy? Caroline Levitt, what do you want to say? What do you want to tell us? Here, play this clip. The president went. The Syrian president came in and President.
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Trump sprayed perfume all over him. And I just wondered, like, was, did he smell? No, let me tell you, that happens all the time. Not just with the Syrian president, but I've seen it with other foreign leaders. I've seen it with members of our Cabinet myself. He sprays the food and a perfume.
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He's just showing off his wonderful sense.
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What he's spraying people with cologne and perfume when they go in the Oval Office. That's what's happening when foreign. I want to bring in Minnesota's 50th Lieutenant Governor, Peggy Flanagan, who's running for Senate, right there. I don't want to normalize any of that behavior. And I think that corporate media has tried to acclimate us, that all of these things, it's politics as usual, and that's what to expect. A lot of what your campaign about is just stop it. We focus on workers and real issues that actually matter. So what do you make of that?
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Well, first of all, it is a hot mess. And I think this is what happens when our leaders prioritize corporate interests over all of us in real time. They're like, just wait. This year we're going to take care of all the billionaires, and then maybe next year we're going to focus on the things that you need to keep food on the table and pay the rent and maybe, I don't know, take a vacation someday. But it just shows how incredibly disconnected they are from the lives of real Americans. And frankly, that they. They just don't care. You know, spraying perfume in the Oval Office versus cutting off food security for millions of Americans, like, that's a choice, y'. All.
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Peggy, you're running for the Senate seat, the Democratic Party in Minnesota. I don't want people to sleep on how important the race is in Minnesota. It ain't a sleepy state. And so I want people to be focused on that at a national level, too. I want to show people this video because you see a lot of progressive Democrats making a very powerful statement in the past. 24 hours. Let me just show this. Let's play it.
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Hi, I'm Elizabeth Warren.
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It's Senator Ed Markey. I'm Senator Chris Murphy. Chris Van Hollen. Senator Jeff Berkley. Martin Heinrich here. I'm proud to endorse Peggy Flanagan for Minnesota's open United States Senate seat. We need courage in Washington, and Peggy Flanagan will bring it. Peggy Flanagan will bring it. Time and time again, she's proved that she has the backbone and the guts to meet this moment.
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As an organizer, a mom, and governor of Minnesota, she has delivered on the fights that matter.
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And, Peggy, I'll show the full video, too. I just. I wanted to get your reaction to it because it's a great video, but how important is this race?
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I mean, I think this race is incredibly important to the future of our country and the future of our party. It really is the choice that is facing all of us. Do we want more corporate Democrats who are going to play to the status quo and nibble around the edges, or do we want progressive fighters with a track of getting things done? I think people want us to be bold, audacious, and defiant in this moment. And we need to make sure that people can afford the lives that they want to live. And that's what this entire race is about. And I have to tell you, I am so honored and humbled to have those progressive champions endorsing my campaign because they are on the front lines every single day, and they know what it takes. And so to know that they'd like me to join them in the fight is a real honor.
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And that follows a big endorsement the prior week by Senator Bernie Sanders. And he and I had a great conversation over the weekend about artificial intelligence. And as Senator Sanders has said, the most important issues are often the ones that are being least discussed on the media, but are being discussed by the people. And so now we're hearing affordability. But let's make it clear that this can't just be a catchphrase. These are people's lives. And. And explain to us what the people in Minnesota are feeling like under this Trump regime, where it's not just promises made and promises betrayed. It seems like it's an affirmative assault on the American dream and tearing away and ripping away people's jobs and their health care and just their way of living.
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I mean, what I'm hearing in Minnesota, and we've been doing hundreds of events across the. Across the state, in all different communities, and the same things are coming up over and over again. It is the cost of Living and health care in particular. And so this is a place where I'm very clear that we need to get rid of prior authorization so that some dude behind a desk doesn't get to decide whether or not you get the life saving health care that you need. And worse yet, robots or AI making that decision. But ultimately, you know, when I'm talking to folks who say that their deductible is $15,000 a year and that they just 600 bucks to go to a five minute med check appointment with their doctor, that's completely unsustainable and that is happening right now. So as they are looking to next year, they're like, maybe we just have to cross our fingers and hope for the best and not pay for insurance. That's outrageous. I think we need to go big. And that means fighting for things like universal health care. We need Medicare for all, it's bedtime. We need a $17 minimum wage so that we can catch up and keep up. Those are fights that I've helped lead in Minnesot, Minnesota and raising the minimum wage. Things like paid family and medical leave that will go into effect here in Minnesota in January. Those are the big fights that people want us to fight on their behalf. And I think so often we find Democrats who are fighting from a defensive crouch or like what's the fight that we think we could win instead of what are the things that people actually need and deserve? And I think that's all about the fact that we've got big corporations who are playing in our politics. And it's why I've decided not to take corporate path money. Because I think it's pretty dishonest to say that I'm going to hold Big Pharma accountable to lower the cost of prescription drugs while accepting a check from them at the same time. People are smarter than that. And that I think is what this choice is all about and the future of our party overall.
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What I've loved about your political career, your campaign and the people who endorsed you, especially Bernie Sanders, is when Senator Sanders goes across the country, yes, he delivers really powerful, awesome speeches, but there's a portion of it where he just takes questions and listens and says, all right, tell me what you're going through. And you can learn so much about the experience when you actually listen to what people are saying. And to your point, when the Democratic Party gets a little cow, a little bit would be, would be the operative word. That shouldn't be there though, when they get cowardly on these issues like universal health Care and making sure everybody gets health care and fighting for people and giving people education and saying, yeah, tax the rich more. How do you pay for it? By taxing the rich more. Let's start by making the rich pay their fair share and then tax them more. And then you know what? We probably shouldn't have a trillion dollar military budget. How about we can still lead the world and history of mankind with a $600 billion military budget and we could take 400 billion of that dollars that would otherwise go to maybe killing people abroad and we can focus on saving the lives of Americans. It actually, it's from a defensive posture, but you would both be doing the right thing and you would be winning elections. That's the craziest part to me that these are actually winning issues and they're the right issues to be focused on.
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That's exactly right. And it's what people are telling us. And I think that piece about listening that is one of the most powerful tools in our toolbox. People just want to be heard. And when we're doing these events, of course there's a lot of Democrats who are coming, but there's also a lot of people who are like, I don't identify with any political party but I'm super freaked out right now, so I want to know what I can do. And then we have Republicans who are coming too who say, I don't agree with you on everything, but I know you're a tough cookie. And in Minnesota calling someone a tough cookie is a, is a real compliment. But I'll just say that like, people just want to be heard and they want to know that someone is in their corner and fighting for them. And I grew up thinking that the bottom could fall out at any moment. And there are so many people who feel that way right now and not enough folks in Washington D.C. and certainly not in the Senate who understand what that's like. I think we would be in a very different position and lifting up the things that you were just talking about, making sure that the wealthiest folks pay their fair share and that corporate tax rates. Right. Are not less than what a middle income family is paying right now. Those are the fights that the people want us to fight. And I am, I'm all in. I'm ready.
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Where can people find out more about the campaign?
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Folks can visit Peggy Flanagan.com and we'd love to have you join Team Peggy along with these great senators who've endorsed us so far.
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Peggy Flanagan, running for Senate In Minnesota, the 50th Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota. Great to have you.
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Episode: Peggy Flanagan Discusses Important Senate Race in Minnesota
Release Date: November 24, 2025
Host(s): Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Guest: Peggy Flanagan (Minnesota Lieutenant Governor, U.S. Senate Candidate)
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast centers around Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan’s campaign for Minnesota’s open U.S. Senate seat and the broader significance of progressive politics in 2025. The discussion touches on the state of the U.S. economy, corporate influence on politics, health care accessibility, and the importance of bold Democratic leadership in securing the future of the country's democracy.
Timestamps: 06:11–08:07
Peggy Flanagan (06:51):
“This is what happens when our leaders prioritize corporate interests over all of us in real time. They're like, just wait. This year we're going to take care of all the billionaires, and then maybe next year we're going to focus on the things that you need... But it just shows how incredibly disconnected they are from the lives of real Americans. And frankly, they just don't care.”
Timestamps: 07:39–09:35
Peggy Flanagan (08:45):
“It really is the choice that is facing all of us. Do we want more corporate Democrats who are going to play to the status quo... or do we want progressive fighters with a track of getting things done? I think people want us to be bold, audacious, and defiant in this moment."
Timestamps: 09:35–12:25
Peggy Flanagan (10:24):
“When I'm talking to folks who say that their deductible is $15,000 a year and that they just [paid] 600 bucks to go to a five-minute med check appointment with their doctor, that's completely unsustainable and that is happening right now.”Peggy Flanagan (11:09):
“We need to go big. And that means fighting for things like universal health care. We need Medicare for all. We need a $17 minimum wage so that we can catch up and keep up.”
Timestamps: 12:25–13:53
Host (12:39):
“How about... take 400 billion dollars that would otherwise go to maybe killing people abroad and focus on saving lives of Americans. You would both be doing the right thing and... winning elections. That's the craziest part to me—that these are actually winning issues.”
Peggy Flanagan (12:55):
“It's pretty dishonest to say that I’m going to hold Big Pharma accountable... while accepting a check from them at the same time. People are smarter than that.”
Timestamps: 13:53–15:07
Peggy Flanagan (14:23):
“People just want to be heard and they want to know that someone is in their corner and fighting for them. [...] There are so many people who feel that way right now and not enough folks in Washington D.C., and certainly not in the Senate, who understand what that's like.”
Peggy Flanagan (14:10):
“In Minnesota, calling someone a tough cookie is a real compliment. [...] People just want to be heard and they want to know that someone is in their corner and fighting for them.”
Host (12:25):
“Yeah, tax the rich more. How do you pay for it? By taxing the rich more. Let's start by making the rich pay their fair share and then tax them more.”
Peggy Flanagan (15:10):
“Folks can visit Peggy Flanagan.com and we’d love to have you join Team Peggy along with these great senators who’ve endorsed us so far.”
This episode blends urgency and humor typical of the Meiselas brothers, with Flanagan’s plainspoken, passionate advocacy. The tone is unapologetically progressive, focused on delivering clear contrasts—incrementalism vs. bold action, corporate status quo vs. grassroots leadership. Flanagan’s warmth and practical grounding balance well with the hosts’ pointed critiques and encouragement.
Summary prepared for those looking to understand the political stakes in Minnesota, the resurgence of unapologetic progressive leadership, and the practical challenges facing working Americans today.