The MeidasTouch Podcast
Episode: Rep. Garcia Reveals His Next Move with Trump Investigations
Date: October 14, 2025
Host(s): Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Featured Guest: Rep. Robert Garcia (Ranking Member, House Oversight Committee)
Overview
In this episode, the Meiselas brothers sit down with Rep. Robert Garcia to discuss his ongoing efforts in the House Oversight Committee, focusing on investigations surrounding Donald Trump’s administration, the Ghislaine Maxwell deposition, and plans for increasing accountability amid government corruption and ongoing government shutdown. The hosts and Garcia candidly dissect the culture of delay and cover-up tactics they attribute to Trump’s circle, and Garcia reveals upcoming moves by the Oversight Committee to pursue justice and transparency.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Trump Administration, Shutdown, and Claims of Wealth
- Hosts and Garcia dissect Trump’s statements about bringing "$17 trillion" into the country through tariffs.
- Hosts point out the incongruity as “reduction in force notices” are issued while Trump brags about national wealth.
- Judges’ recent comments, including those appointed by Trump, are noted for challenging Trump’s “tether[ing] to reality.”
- Quote: “Nothing that this Trump regime is saying about this shutdown is sticking because enough is enough and it is impacting the lives of Americans.” — Ben Meiselas [01:12]
2. The Ghislaine Maxwell Deposition & Jeffrey Epstein Investigation
- Following the Supreme Court’s denial of Maxwell’s final appeal, Rep. Garcia demands that Maxwell sit for a House Oversight deposition.
- Garcia highlights Maxwell’s direct ties to sex trafficking and her relationships with both Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump.
- Garcia is adamant about the importance of transparency and holding all involved—regardless of political party—accountable for the crimes.
- He addresses Trump’s ambiguous response to the Maxwell pardon question, labeling it “complete bullshit.”
- Quote: “Ghislaine Maxwell is a sex trafficker. She herself abused children, girls, women… She deserves no support, pity from us. And to this idea… that Donald Trump is going to somehow possibly consider, look at a pardon, doesn’t know anything about it, is just complete bullshit. I mean, give me a break. He knows her. He’s met her.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [04:16]
- Garcia stresses the need for the release of the “full Epstein files” for a thorough investigation.
- He calls the ongoing legal and procedural delays “part of the Trump playbook: delay, delay, delay.”
Notable Segment
- Supreme Court refusing Maxwell’s appeal and Trump’s “I’ll have to take a look at it” response.
- Quote: “You shouldn’t be speaking to the DOJ. You don’t know who she—what are you talking about? Of course you know who she is.” — Ben Meiselas [03:45]
- Quote: “We’re going to demand for her to come forward… and remind the public that much of what she says, quite frankly, might be lies. She is a known serial liar.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [07:03]
3. Broader Trump-Era Corruption & Planned Oversight
- The hosts and Garcia discuss Trump using his privately-owned social media (Truth Social) to message government officials, notably Pam Bondi, about prosecuting political opponents.
- Questions about executive privilege in this context are raised, especially since he’s using a platform he privately controls.
- Garcia outlines the committee’s plans should Democrats regain the majority—a wide-ranging investigation enabled by subpoena power.
- Garcia reveals plans to launch an online tracker of abuses by agencies like ICE and DHS.
- This tracker will publicly document incidents of abuse, including illegal detentions and inhumane actions.
- Specific mention of accountability pursuits against “Kristi Noem and Stephen Miller.”
- Quote: “When we win the majority and have subpoena power and are able to get anyone in front of the committee… we have a long list.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [09:59]
- Quote: “We are going to hold everyone involved in these kidnappings, in this mistreatment, these inhumane actions across the country… accountable.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [11:14]
- Garcia reveals plans to launch an online tracker of abuses by agencies like ICE and DHS.
4. Trump’s Self-Enrichment, Public Betrayal & Public Sentiment Shift
- Discussion of Trump’s reported personal enrichment during the shutdown—contrasted with Americans’ rising cost of living.
- Mention of extravagant White House plans (e.g., “triumphant arches” and “golden ballrooms”) as further proof of misplaced priorities.
- Garcia notes a palpable shift in public sentiment, including from some former Trump supporters.
- Quote: “This is someone that is enriching himself every day… Donald Trump’s wealth also is skyrocketing. He’s making more money right now than he ever has off all of his corruption, his crypto scheme… he’s stealing from the American public…” — Rep. Robert Garcia [12:42]
- “People are finally catching onto that. And you’re seeing it not just in the polls… I’m talking to folks that supported Donald Trump that are like, I don’t know what the hell is going on.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [13:13]
- Garcia insists that Democrats must “fight hard,” not be hesitant or expect bipartisan cooperation in the face of this level of corruption.
Notable Quotes & Moments
- “Ghislaine Maxwell is a sex trafficker… She herself abused children, girls, women… She deserves no support, pity from us.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [04:16]
- “This is all part of the Trump playbook. I mean, no question about it… delay, delay, delay.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [07:03]
- “When we win the majority and have subpoena power… we have a long list [of investigations].” — Rep. Robert Garcia [09:59]
- “We’re going to hold everyone involved in these kidnappings, in this mistreatment, these inhumane actions across the country… accountable.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [11:14]
- “This is someone that is enriching himself every day… as your grocery costs have gone up… Donald Trump’s wealth also is skyrocketing.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [12:42]
- “We gotta steamroll at this moment, so we’re doing that on oversight.” — Rep. Robert Garcia [13:40]
Segment Timestamps for Reference
| Timestamp | Segment Summary |
|-------------|-----------------|
| 01:00-03:13 | Setting the scene: Trump’s claims on tariffs & wealth |
| 03:13-04:16 | Trump’s ambiguous response re: Maxwell, calls for her deposition |
| 04:16-08:56 | In-depth: Maxwell investigation, sex trafficking accountability, Trump’s involvement |
| 08:56-11:32 | Broader corruption: Trump’s social media, plans for oversight, ICE/DHS tracker|
| 11:32-13:53 | Trump’s self-enrichment vs. public suffering, public catching on, Democrats’ response|
| 13:53-14:07 | Appreciation for Garcia & closing remarks (start of non-content/subscribe segment) |
Tone & Closing Thoughts
The episode adopts the signature, conversational, and bantering tone of the MeidasTouch trio — candid, sometimes humorous, and always unapologetically pro-democracy. Rep. Garcia maintains a direct, passionate stance on accountability, transparency, and the urgent need for robust oversight in what he characterizes as an unprecedentedly corrupt administration. The conversation is rich with insider insight, pointed criticism, and clear calls for action.
For listeners seeking a behind-the-scenes look at current investigations targeting the Trump era, especially on Ghislaine Maxwell and the scope of committee plans under Rep. Garcia, this episode is both an exposé and a rallying cry for vigilant oversight.