Kevin Hassett (2:55)

Well, right now the banking sector has very ample reserves. But one of the things that I think has spooked markets is that they've realized, looking at these two anecdotes this week, that the Biden administration, like everything was asleep at the wheel on banking regulation. We had.

Ron Filipkowski (3:11)

It's the Biden administration, it's Obama, the whiniest group of people. Meanwhile, this same group of people is covering up the release of the Epstein files, refusing to even swear in Congresswoman elect Adelita Grijalva while the Trump government shutdown continues. So Arizona's 7th congressional district, literally taxation without representation. And then here's what Maga Mike blamed Adelita. I mean, this is their sociopathic mindset. The Republicans are blaming Adelita Grijalva for not working. They go, why isn't she working? Because you're not swearing her in, you idiots. Here, play this clip.

Kevin Hassett (3:51)

Say this right now, though, Jake. Rep. Grahala is. She should be working for her constituents. I don't know what she's doing. I keep seeing their political stunt videos and they're knocking on the door and she's not there. She should be in her office. She should be working or in the district for her constituents. She's already hired 16 staffers. She should be taking constituent calls like.

Ron Filipkowski (4:09)

Quite literally crazy people. I mean, liar, liar, liar, over and over again. I want to bring a Democratic Congressmember, Dan Goldman, and everybody will recall back in May, Congressmember Goldman and I, you, we did a video. You wrote that letter to Pam Bondi saying, we know you're doing the Epstein cover up. I've been a former federal prosecutor. You called her out, really? Before anyone did. Congressmember Goldman. We should talk about that also. But look, we have this Trump government shutdown. There are real serious signs of stress in the economy while Trump's billionaires are grifting away in their, what do they call it, the Rose Garden Club or the Golden Pal, Whatever they're doing. What's going on?

Dan Goldman (4:52)

Oh, it's, it's getting worse and worse. Obviously, they're maintaining this shutdown even though it requires a bipartisan agreement. And we're happy to negotiate. We're trying to fix the health care crisis that they have created. They don't care about the health care Crisis. They now they're announcing they're not even going to pay SNAP benefits in November for the 42 million people who receive food nutrition benefits. They are attacking Democratic districts and states and trying to illegally and unlawfully freeze or take away funding. And so they're viewing this as just a continuation of of their government by and for the billionaires while they continue to punish the American people. Now this is different than what we had over the summer. They need Democratic support, but what they're trying to say is we need your support. So you should just get on board with whatever we want to do and we believe this is the right way. So how dare you say that you have some priorities too. Well, we're not giving up on our priorities and we're standing strong. And then you've got MAGA Mike Johnson, as you pointed out, using the shutdown as another mechanism to cover up the Epstein files.

Ron Filipkowski (6:22)

I saw some stat that like in the past 90 days, Magam Mike has like 78 days, like a crazy stat. Like it's been 12 days of work in like the past 90 days because he sent everybody home over the summer because of the Epstein files. And normally during a government shutdown though, and this is what all these, all members would tell me who've been in past shutdowns before also was okay, we'd be back and forth, we'd be calling, we'd be working, figure this out, figure, let's try to get out of this. MAGA Mike now lies and claims that there are negotiations taking place when he refuses to even speak with Leader Jeffries. And Trump's order them don't even talk. That's the strangest part to me about this is fifth grade government. Like you're supposed to talk and that they're refusing to have conversations. That's so crazy to me.

Dan Goldman (7:13)

Well, they're refusing to do that. But I think you really have hit the nail on the head as to why Mike Johnson is not doing that. Because if, first of all, if the Republicans are actually in D.C. then they get asked about why they're not negotiating with Democrats when they need Democratic votes. There's no good answer to that. They get asked, why don't you support the health care, the tax credits for the Affordable Care act, which are which without them, if they do expire at the end of the year, then millions of Americans will lose their health care and prices will go up for every American. So they don't want to get those questions. So they're on vacation. But the bigger thing is if they are in session in D.C. then he has no choice but to swear in Adelita Grijalva. Now why is that such a big deal? Adelita would be the 218th signature on the discharge petition, which is all you need for the discharge petition to release the Epstein files to come to the floor for a vote. And Mike Johnson is doing everything in his power not to allow Adelita Grijalva to get sworn in so that she can sign the discharge petition. Now, what you just showed is a new one to me. I had not heard him say that. I have heard him say, oh, well, we want to use the normal course where she gets to give a big speech to everyone in the House. Well, that's not what he did for two of his Republican members in Florida who were sworn in when the House was not in session during a pro forma session back in April. And Adelita doesn't want that. She wants to get sworn in. Now he's saying, oh, she should be working even though she's not sworn in. He is wrong. She is not allowed to actually hire staff. She may have them ready to go and she has now a key to her office, but there's no furniture, there's no phone, there's no staff, and she is not allowed to do constituent services. So he's just flat out lying now in an effort to avoid swearing her in. She's been in Washington for the last three weeks ready to be sworn in. And he's doing it all to continue this massive cover up of the Epstein files.

Ron Filipkowski (9:36)

Now, you're a former top federal prosecutor, your federal prosecutor out of New York. And so you have that prosecutorial sense. When Trump and Bondi and Patel were going down this path towards cover up before they put the memorandum out, I think over the summer saying that we're shutting down the Epstein files. You called them out in May, you saw the writing on the wall where this was headed, and you wrote that letter to them where you basically predicted exactly what they were going to do. If anything. I would argue what they've actually done is even worse and more blatant than even some of the worse and more blatant predictions based on their behavior. And the fact that they've engaged in this level of spoliation and cover up and behavior just goes to tell you, if this is what they think is the better option, what the hell is in those files? Because it's gotta be. It's gotta be a truck and then I gotta get your other take. Put that one there. Then when he's confronted with his own signature on the birthday card to Epstein. They just go, not my signature. So a freaking time. It's just so stupid. So you're saying a time traveler went back in time to forge your signature 20 years and drop it in the evidence bucket? Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what happened. I don't do that. It's ridiculous. And as a federal prosecutor, former federal prosecutor, you must be like, this is just outrageous.

Dan Goldman (11:10)

Well, it's, it is the progression of the COVID up that is most interesting to me. And, and you made the point that back in February, Bond, Pam Bondi was apparently furious with Cash Patel because for some reason she thought she was releasing all of the Epstein files when really she was releasing a very small portion of them that had already been released. So she demanded that. That she get all of the Epstein files and that they go through all of them and they all will be released immediately. She has them on her desk. She said, then the FBI spends thousands of hours actually going through the files to redact all the victim's information, which they have to do. Then crickets. We. I write the letter, they say they send out that memo all of a sudden saying there's no credible evidence here. That would require disclosure. Now, credible evidence is a very subjective determination by them. And it's, it's actually what they've been using in the Tom Homan case as well. They keep talking about credible evidence. It's not that there's no evidence, it's that they deem it not to be credible. But this is where we are now, and this is why the discharge petition. Right. So they, they wrote that memo, say, we don't need to release anything. There's nothing to, there's nothing to. To see here. We're not going to charge anyone else. Then everyone said, that's preposterous. So they went to release the grand jury transcripts, which would have had no information that's relevant to any of Jeffrey Epstein's accomplices, but that was denied. Then they have the deputy attorney general go and interview Ghisain Maxwell in what as a former prosecutor who frankly worked, who worked many years with the deputy Attorney General, that interview was such an abomination and was so contrary to all of the proper protocols and procedures that you would use in the Department of Justice that it is a complete joke. She gets moved to a plush camp. All right, so then they think, all right, we're handling it. Nope. People are still upset. People still want it. So then they open up this oversight committee investigation under James Comer. And they pass a resolution that authorizes this investigation and it lists out a number of areas that they're supposed to investigate, which would include documents to turn over vitally. And this is really important, Ben, to understand why, because Mike Johnson is talking about we've got this oversight investigation, we are releasing everything. So why does the discharge petition matter? The discharge petition matters because that bill, the Massey bill, requires all of the files to be released. And so the difference between the two is critical. The oversight and committee investigation does not require video recordings, audio recordings, photographs, witness statements, notes to file, memos to file the case and investigation originating documents. None of that stuff is required to be turned over to the oversight committee, but it would all be required to be turned over under the discharge petition bill. And that as a former federal prosecutor, I know that is where Donald Trump's name would be if it's in there. And all of Jeffrey Epstein's accomplices would be in that part of the investigative file, which is very intentionally being left out of the oversight investigation. So this cover up gets worse and worse and more detailed and more complicated and more entrenched. And ultimately that's why they are trying so desperately to stop this discharge petition from getting enough signatures.

Ron Filipkowski (15:11)

You know, we've seen with the emails, I think it was like 19,000 emails or so that Bloomberg was able to get their hands on that. Ghislaine Maxwell playing dumb in her interview with Donald Trump's former criminal defense lawyer, Todd Blanche turned number two at the doj. Well, it seems that she knew a lot more obviously. I mean in those emails she talked about very specific transactions that Trump and Epstein were potentially involved in. A real estate purchased in Palm beach. In that 2004, 2005 period. What would, what the investigation looked like where the it was there an investigation of people speaking to Trump. Then I think a Russian oligarch ended up buying the home three or four years later that Epstein first wanted to buy for double the price. I think Trump scooped it from Epstein. Epstein wanted to buy it for like 35. Trump bought it for 45. Then a few years later, a Russian oligarch bought it for 90, 90 million and demolished it. So there's, there's, there's so much there there that's probably in this file. Before we go though, I gotta ask you about Homan 50. You brought it up $50,000 of cash in a kava bag. Mediterranean kind of fast food restaurant, decent food. I like, like kava. But he, that he, I guess he went with on Fox that that's how he conducts business as a consultant and then doesn't want to talk about it anymore. And done. That's it. Just. And then when the questions were directed at Bondi during that Senate hearing, she would say, don't you dare defame him. Don't you dare. What was a weird hearing to a Pam? But yeah. What do you make of, of Homan and Bondi before we go?

Dan Goldman (16:46)

I think it's another massive, massive scandal and cover up. And it really does show you how much this Department of Justice has just become a political weapon of Donald trump. If a $50,000 bribe, and we were talking about my experience as a prosecutor, you don't start an investigation on one day and then have a target of the investigation receive $50,000 in cash from an undercover FBI agent the next day. This was clearly an extensive and long, thorough investigation of which the 50,000 bribe was just one part of it. But the notion that Tom Homan does official consulting business by receiving $50,000 of cash in a Kava bag is preposterous. It is absolutely outrageous and absurd and unbelievable. Not believable. And so the fact that they just closed that investigation, why, while they're charging Jim Comey and Tish James with bogus charges at Donald Trump's direction, is completely destroying the Department of Justice. But it's also undermining the very fabric of the rule of law, which is the bedrock of our democracy. We are certainly going to continue to press for more information on the Tom Homan investigation. Why was it closed and what, what, what was it? Because I will also say very few investigations include $50,000 in cash. Oftentimes you'll get 10,000. You have to get special approvals to get that much money. And this was an entirely made up, fabricated company by the FBI. It was an undercover company, so there's a lot more there. And Tom Homan, of course, now controls $45 billion that was just given to ICE to pay contracts for private prisons and all these other immigration contractors. It is unbelievably corrupt and remarkable, but not surprising that they shut down that investigation.

Ron Filipkowski (19:10)

Congressman Dan Goldman, we appreciate you and hope you come back.

Dan Goldman (19:14)

Anytime.

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