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Shannon Watts
What is dadication?
Fatherhood Advocate
The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariona. We call him Dae Dae for short. Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together. We did a good job.
Shannon Watts
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Tucker Carlson
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Political Commentator
Carlson to Marjorie Taylor Greene and everybody in between. You have a whole group of pissed off magas who can't believe what Donald Trump is doing on a whole series of issues. But they should believe it because it was pretty obvious what a destructive dictatorial force he is. Whether they're pissed about him for warmongering in the Middle east, whether they are pissed at him for targeting their families like the Latinos. For Trump. Donald Trump has taken a wrecking ball to the country. MAGA Republicans are on Medicaid. MAGA Republicans rely on the Affordable Care act and Medicare and they're having lots of programs that are ripped from them as well. It's almost like they thought this was all one big game, that this was some sort of, I don't know, MAGA cosplay, role play thing until it started impacting their lives. And, you know, I'm not fully convinced that a lot of them still get it. But you see people expressing the following online, like Rudy Jab, the main reason I voted for Trump is this. I don't wanna see any more bloodshed. He's betrayed the vast majority of his voter base. And then this individual aggregated all of Trump saying post from the past saying in order to get elected Obama will start a war with Iran. Obama will attack Iran in order to get reelect. I predict Obama will at some point attack Iran in order to save face. Remember that I predicted a long time ago that Obama will attack Iran because of his inability to negotiate properly, not skilled. You got posts like this from this guy Philip Anderson, where on October 8, 2024 he writes Donald Trump is literally right about everything. On June 15, 2025 he posts Donald Trump has completely failed us. Got Donald Trump attacking Tucker Carlson as kooky for Tucker Carlson saying that we shouldn't send American troops to war in Iran. You've got MAGA influencers like Texas Patriot saying effort. If Trump takes us to war, I'm done with this administration. I voted for no wars, cheap gases, no taxes, cheap groceries, making America healthy again. I'm not sure RFK Jr is your guy for that though. CBS News did a report this week about how the cuts to FEMA storm prep program are impacting red states and Trump voters the most focused particularly on the destruction that could be caused to states like Florida and Louisiana if they're hit by hurricanes. Based on what Trump is doing, you've got people posting. I mean there are tens of thousands of more than that post Kenneth Wrinkle it's sad. I voted for Trump for the term for the third time. Thought he'd help with the price of gas, price of groceries, utility. But here in John Cornyn's district, things are higher than when Biden was president. Wtf? Wisconsin dairy farmers are suing the Trump administration for discrimination against white farmers. They're saying Trump's discriminating white farmers based on his policies. You know, and I just wonder, as I share all those examples with you, you know, how people so easily kind of lost their agency and and allowed this wannabe dictator to impose their will, lie about everything and now they act all surprised and shocked. And don't get me started. I've done so many videos on the Cubans and Latinos and Venezuelans for Trump. And all of that I wanna bring in right now. Shannon Watts. Shannon Watts is out with a new incredible book. The pub date is today. It's called Fired Up. I'm fired up. How to turn your spark into a flame and come alive at any age. And you know, I think about Shannon, the no Kings protest this weekend also, where there were lots of people who may not have even been voters People who were on the sidelines and they showed up. So I want to talk about that, but I also want to talk about people who just kind of go through their life not expressing themselves and not expressing their opinions on issues and things, and then they find themselves slowly but surely being pulled in a rabbit hole where they can't get out of it. So, first off, congrats on the book. Everybody, of course, knows you from Moms Demand Action, the largest group against gun violence grassroots organization. So talk to us about why you wrote this book and I think how it meets the moment.
Shannon Watts
Well, you know, you were just explaining and describing someone who was exactly who I was. Right. For 41 years, I was not very politically active. And so when the mass shooting happened at Sandy Hook School, I'm not sure anyone would have looked to me as the leader. I was a stay at home mom with five kids. I have severe adhd. I had a debilitating fear of public speaking. You know, not exactly the person someone would point to and say, oh yeah, that woman over there, she can lead an organization against the most powerful, wealthy special interest that's ever existed. And yet that's exactly what I ended up doing, right, Because I was able to. And this is what my book is about. Marrying my values, my abilities and my desires and figure out what do I have to meet this moment, what do I have to offer and to bring to the table. And look, given where we are in this country, I think you just laid it out very clearly. No one can afford to stay on the sidelines. No one. And you may not think of yourself as someone who is a gifted activist or someone who is politically motivated, but we all have to be, right? Democracy, sort of like a sick child. When your kid is sick in the middle of the night and throwing up and you're exhausted, you don't say, you know, good luck with this, I'll see you in the morning. You hold their hand until they're better. And I think democracy is the same way. And so what I really wanted to create is a manual for how do you figure out who you are and what you have to bring to the table personally, politically, professionally. And then how do you endure the blowback that you're going to get during that experience? Probably not like me, you won't receive threats of death and sexual violence, hopefully, but you will have people, when you decide to pursue something you're passionate about, make snarky comments to you, maybe in the pickup line of your kid's school. How do you endure that? And then how do you use this to find your people? And I'm sure you've talked about this quite a bit, which is community and the importance of having conversations. Right now. It's not enough to knock doors a month out from an election. We need to be having conversations with our neighbors and within our community between now and the midterm elections and beyond.
Political Commentator
You know, you take a look at an issue like common sense, gun reform, and if you were to poll Americans, 65, 75% of people are in support of actually gun control, more. Right. And then you look across the board at a lot of these very issues that are portrayed as being controversial. They actually have overwhelming support. But what happens is, and this is what happens in dictatorships across the world, where you have a small group of zealots are controlling the framing, the dialogue, the discussion. They're shaming people because they're, they're relentless with their attacks and it kind of pushes the 65, 70 or even up to 80% away. And so community, so important. So, so what do you do? So what's your suggestion? How does someone right now watching this say, I need to get, I want to do something. How do they start?
Shannon Watts
Well, the first thing you need to do is figure out who you are, right? What are your abilities? What do you have to bring to the table? The skill set that I had when I started Mom's Demand actions was, was that I was a communicator. I had been in the corporate world in public relations for years. And so I knew how to build a brand, I knew how to tell a story. But so many other women across the country brought their skills too. You know, whether they were website developers or organizers or lawyers, all of them mattered and they made a difference. So figure out what your abilities are. And if you don't know what they are, and I have all these exercises in the book to help figure it out. Ask someone to tell you, and if you don't have the skills that you want, you can go acquire those. The other thing is, what are your values? You know, they will change throughout your life. When I started Mom's new inaction, I was a 41 year old mom of young kids. And so my values were very much about protecting my family and my community. Now that I am an empty nester, it's more about wisdom and passing on what I know to other people. And then what are your desires? You know, I really wanted to stand up to the most powerful, wealthy, special interest that's ever existed with a badass army of women. And so that's what I set out to create, but that those things are not going to be for everyone. So figure out what is the niche that you want to fill. And again, that's really what my book is all about. But then start to take those steps forward. You don't have to start an organization. You can join an organization. You can create something in your neighborhood or your community. Use your voice and your vote. There's a political scientist who talks about how you really just need 3.5% of the population to rise up to effect real change. We have that. We saw that at the rallies over the weekend. We know that this is going to matter and make a difference, but we have to keep this momentum going. So what does that look like? It looks like joining organizations that exist and starting with what, you know, where you are right now doesn't have to be perfect. The last thing I will say is what I've seen in activism and probably in life is that people are frustrated by incrementalism. It's kind of a dirty word, especially among young activists. And I get it. I wish the system was set up for overnight wholesale change. It's not. So be patient and understand you're playing a long game. It truly is incrementalism that leads to revolutions.
Political Commentator
So, finally, what do you say, though, to someone who may be trapped in a situation that they. That they don't like? Not just the person who's not motivated, but someone whose family may be kind of deeply maga and they know deep in their heart that that's not who they are. But they think, oh, well, my neighbor's like that, or my husband's like that, or my parents are like that, and how do I gracefully exit that without disrupting the family unit? Or how does someone navigate that?
Shannon Watts
Well, I'm glad you brought that up. So I would say two things. First of all, what you said earlier is absolutely true. There's all these issues that we think are polarizing because, frankly, extremists want us to believe they're polarizing. Something like 70 to 90% of all Americans support background checks on all gun sales, depending on whether there's been a recent shooting tragedy. That's a huge amount of Americans and that many Americans don't agree on much. Right. So gun violence prevention is not polarizing. It's that we have these extremist lawmakers and they have a base of extremist voters who have really held sway over these conversations for decades. And so when we start to use our voices and our votes, you will see change you know, I would use a state like Virginia as an example. I thought there was no chance in hell that that would become a blue state that would pass over a dozen gun safety laws by 2020. And that's actually exactly what happened. We spent years laying the foundation to flip all chambers of the General Assembly. We outspent the NRA in their own backyard. We created relationships with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. So by the time that we had a gun sense majority, we could go in and immediately pass all those laws, and they have not been undone by the subsequent Republican governor. So, again, incrementalism, it saves the day. And the other thing I would say is what I have witnessed over and over again through Moms Demand Action is that when you come to conversations with data and anecdotes and you're willing to. To have those tough conversations, you can change hearts and minds, not necessarily of extremists, but of most Americans who live in the middle. My father and his wife, my stepmother, are Trump supporters. I'm pretty sure they voted for Donald Trump both times. And yet my dad shows up at Moms to Man Action events wearing his Mom's Demand Action shirt, not just because he supports me, but because of all the conversations we have have convinced him that this is really part of his agenda too. And so I'm not saying that that's. But I do think it's worth trying.
Political Commentator
Yeah. You know, it reminds me of when I spoke to a lot of governors in red states and I go and ask them, and I said, well, you know, how is it that you are able to, you know, advocate for LGBTQ rights and a lot of and still win in red states? And I frequently hear from these governors because I'm passionate about it, because I feel these things, and I let people know that I'm passionate about it. And when people see that I really feel this way and I'm fighting for it, they respect that I'm a fighter and I don't hedge and I don't throw, you know, I don't flip flop when it comes to kind of core values and principles. This is who I am, and I'm proud about it. And I thought that was important learning as well. I want everybody to go and check out your book right now. Especially, you know, in. As these protests continue to grow. I think it's also kind of the perfect timing for Fired up up to be released. The book's called Fired up how to Turn your Spark into a Flame and come Alive at Any Age by Shannon Watts. Shannon thank you so much. Thank you everybody. Hit subscribe and let's get to 5 million subscribers. The truth is more important than ever. Check out our new Truth over lies collection@store.midas touch.com All 100 USA Union made.
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Podcast Summary: The MeidasTouch Podcast – "Shannon Watts on Standing Up and Fighting Back Against Trump"
Podcast Information:
Overview: In this compelling episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, the Meiselas brothers engage in a profound conversation with Shannon Watts, a renowned fatherhood advocate and founder of Moms Demand Action. The discussion delves into the challenges of standing up against political adversities, the importance of activism in supporting democracy, and insights from Shannon Watts' newly released book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age. The episode offers listeners valuable perspectives on navigating political polarization, fostering community engagement, and effecting meaningful change.
Political Commentator’s Analysis ([01:29]–[05:56]) The episode opens with a critical examination of former President Donald Trump's impact on American society and politics. The Political Commentator highlights the frustrations of MAGA Republicans who are disillusioned by Trump's governance, citing issues such as:
Economic Concerns: Despite Trump’s promises, many MAGA supporters find themselves reliant on programs like Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act, as "MAGA Republicans are on Medicaid...[they] rely on the Affordable Care act and Medicare" ([03:15]).
Foreign Policy and Domestic Impact: Trump's policies, including perceived warmongering in the Middle East and discriminatory actions against Latino communities, have led to significant backlash among his erstwhile supporters.
Public Sentiment Shifts: The commentator references social media posts expressing regret and betrayal by Trump, illustrating a shift in voter sentiment, such as "Donald Trump has taken a wrecking ball to the country" ([02:45]).
The analysis sets the stage for discussing the broader implications of political leadership and the need for active civic participation.
Introduction of Shannon Watts ([05:56]) Shannon Watts is introduced as an unlikely yet powerful leader who transformed from a stay-at-home mom into a leading advocate against gun violence. She shares her personal journey, emphasizing her initial lack of political engagement and how the Sandy Hook tragedy propelled her into activism.
Notable Quote:
Shannon Watts: "For 41 years, I was not very politically active...I was a stay at home mom with five kids. [...] And yet that's exactly what I ended up doing." ([06:15])
Shannon Watts on Her Book ([05:56]–[09:02]) Watts outlines the core message of her book, Fired Up, which serves as a manual for individuals seeking to discover their unique strengths and contribute to democratic activism. She emphasizes the importance of aligning personal values, abilities, and desires to effectively advocate for change.
Key Topics Discussed:
Self-Discovery: Identifying one's skills and values to determine the best way to contribute to activism.
Community Engagement: Building and joining local organizations to create a collective impact rather than isolated efforts.
Incrementalism: Understanding that significant change often results from gradual, persistent efforts rather than overnight transformations.
Notable Quote:
Shannon Watts: "What I really wanted to create is a manual for how do you figure out who you are and what you have to bring to the table personally, politically, professionally." ([07:30])
Dealing with Divergent Political Views ([11:13]–[13:46]) The conversation shifts to the personal challenges of managing relationships with family members who hold opposing political views, particularly within deeply MAGA-aligned households. Watts offers strategies for maintaining respectful discourse and fostering understanding.
Strategies Highlighted:
Focus on Common Ground: Emphasizing shared values over differences to bridge gaps.
Data-Driven Conversations: Using factual information and personal anecdotes to influence opinions.
Patience and Persistence: Recognizing that changing deeply held beliefs takes time and sustained effort.
Notable Quote:
Shannon Watts: "When you come to conversations with data and anecdotes and you're willing to have those tough conversations, you can change hearts and minds." ([12:10])
Political Commentator’s Insights ([08:03]–[09:02]) The commentator underscores the significance of community in combating political extremism. By leveraging collective efforts, individuals can amplify their voices and influence public policy more effectively.
Notable Quote:
Political Commentator: "Community is so important. So, so what do you do? [...] How do they start?" ([08:50])
Shannon Watts’ Response: Watts elaborates on practical steps to foster community activism, such as:
Joining Existing Organizations: Aligning with groups that share similar objectives to strengthen impact.
Grassroots Initiatives: Starting local projects that address specific community needs.
Sustaining Momentum: Maintaining engagement beyond election cycles to ensure lasting change.
Final Thoughts and Call to Action ([13:46]–[15:08]) As the episode nears its conclusion, the Political Commentator and Watts reiterate the critical role each individual plays in upholding democratic values. They encourage listeners to embrace activism, engage in meaningful conversations, and remain resilient in the face of political challenges.
Notable Quote:
Shannon Watts: "Incrementalism...it saves the day. [...] It truly is incrementalism that leads to revolutions." ([12:50])
Closing Remarks: The episode wraps up with a heartfelt endorsement of Watts' book, highlighting its timely relevance in empowering individuals to take actionable steps toward societal improvement.
Conclusion: This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast offers a nuanced exploration of political activism through the lens of Shannon Watts' experiences and insights. By addressing the complexities of political polarization, family dynamics, and community engagement, the podcast provides listeners with both inspiration and practical guidance on how to actively participate in strengthening democracy. Shannon Watts' Fired Up is positioned as a crucial resource for anyone looking to transform their passion into impactful action.
For more insights and to join the conversation, listeners are encouraged to engage with the Meiselas brothers' content on The MeidasTouch YouTube channel and subscribe to their podcast for future episodes.