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Welcome to Ben on breaking news. I'm Ben Meisellis and this is Breaking news. Let's get into it right away. Moments ago, Donald Trump held this disastrous Oval Office press conference. And during this press conference, that's what I was waiting for, just to see what was happening. The feed cuts out. Let me show you what happens. He's talking about the catastrophic war. He's doing his typical lies. The feed cuts out. We're watch what happens here. Play this clip. He said, I could use a. And then the feed cuts out. I don't know if he's having a medical emergency over there, but he's saying that he could use A right now. And that's what's going on in the Oval Office. There was a press conference, was supposed to be about lowering prescription drug prices. In a moment, I'll show you all of the lies that Donald Trump was saying about this catastrophic war in Iran and how it is quicker than he expected it and he already won and he saved young girls. That's his new one. He, he created a completely fictitious story where he's saved eight young girls. I'm not sure if it's AI or just a made up story, but he's, he's saved eight girls. He called up the Iranians and he said to them, I need you to release the eight girls. And the Iranians picked up and said, no, we're not going to release it. And then Donald Trump said, I'm going to make your life a living hell. I'm going to blow up your bridges. I'm going to destroy your civilization. Release the eight young, beautiful little girls. Do you hear me? To which M.B. golubov and Iraqi and Pazewski and the others in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard course. Okay, Donald Trump, are you going to do another nasty social media post in all caps? And then Donald Trump's like, if you do not release those beautiful little girls, I am going to do a social media post and it's going to be really mean and there's going to be multiple exclamation points and lots of capitalized letters to which Iran said, please, please, this is getting serious. Please don't do that. Yeah, it Is serious. Release the pretty little girls now. Okay, okay, we're gonna do it, but please don't do the post. You see what I did? I saved the little girls, everybody. I mean, I know that looks psychotic. That's what Donald Trump continues to claim is happening. Oh, you know, let me explain. And then he has state regime media, which calls itself Fox, like, parrot these things, and you'll have, like, Jesse Waters do a segment. So why did Donald Trump agree to extend the ceasefire deadline? Let me explain to you what happened. You see, the Ayatollah is a gay man, a very gay man. And then the Ayatollah was told by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, you're a gay man, and we're going to lock you up right now. We're doing a coup. So the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps said, ayatollah, you do not have negotiations with Donald Trump. You understand? And so Donald Trump's like, we're trying to make a deal. We're trying to make a deal. Who do we do it with? And the Islamic Revolutionary Guard's like, we're not going to do anything like that. So Donald Trump said, what am I going to do here? Should I obliterate your civilization? And then the Islamic Revolutionary Guard was like, no, no, no, hold off. We're going to work with a seam you near the Pakistani Field Marshal, and we're going to figure this out. Can you give us an extension? And then the. The Field Marshal said, donald, we need your help. Okay? They've locked up the gay Ayatollah. And I mean, by the way, if you're like, ben, what the hell? That's literally what I'm just saying is the segment on Jesse Waters on, like, a Fox primetime show. Like, I'm not being hyperbolic. He said those things. And then as a result, that is why Donald Trump gave Iran a ceasefire extension indefinitely. Trump said he was going to obliterate the civilization, destroy everything, but that's what actually happened. Like, do we all realize how freaking humiliating this is? I mean, we have literally a demented, psychotic, delusional thing in the Oval Office, who's talking about taking shits, you know, in the Oval Office during press conference. I'm not trying to be gross. That's what he's saying. When. When the feed cuts out while he's out there making up lie after lie after lie about the war and bragging. The Vietnam War lasted 18 years, so I'm beating the Vietnam War. Dude, you draft, you dodge. You dodge the draft five times in the Vietnam War. What world are you in, Abbot? What are you talking about right now? And let's talk about the reality, like what's actually happening right now in Iran. All of their leadership, from the judiciary to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard to the parliament to their foreign affairs minister, they all put out joint statements after Donald Trump's been making all of these, you know, weird posts and lies about what's going on in Iran. They each made a post at the same time that basically says the same thing. So the parliament leader writes, in Iran, there are no radicals or moderates. We are all Iranian and revolutionary. And with iron unity of the nation and government, with complete obedience to the supreme leader of the revolution, we will make the aggressor criminal regret his actions. And one God, one leader, one nation, and one path. The path being the path to victory for Iran, dearer than life. And they all wrote some variation of that. You can see Iraqi. You can see the head of the judiciary. Iraqi is their foreign minister. Separately, you can see the head of the. And they all reposted each other's messages. So you have Iran making posts like that, while you have Donald Trump this morning saying, let's kill Iranians who don't want to do a deal. I'm ordering the navy to shoot any boat. Putting minds in the straight. We actually have full control over these Straight of Hormuz, actually, I don't need to do a deal. And then he holds a press conference where the feed cuts out, where he says, I need a shit. I mean, this is the United States of America. This is the most. Once the most powerful nation in the world. This is. This is the reality that we inhabit. And we're supposed to go on and just act like this is all normal. While the Strait of Hormuz is closed, it's under the control of Iran. No ships are getting in and out except a few ships that are linked to Iran. And they're able to get around the blockade. Two ships that try to jump the Strait of Hormuz and get out to test Iran, they were boarded by Iran's navy. Yes. The same navy that the Trump regime claims doesn't exist. Okay? That's the reality of what's going on. And we still have the biggest oil shock in history. The oil, the crude is not leaving and getting to its destination at anywhere near right now. It's a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of what it was before the war. And because Donald Trump is doing a fake blockade, a blockade to make him feel good, but is not all that effective, but a blockade nonetheless, then Doing some interdictions in the Indo Pacific of ghost ships linked with Iran. That's what Donald Trump thinks is the way to negotiate right now. I'm just going to put this naval blockade on. That's how strong I am. Look what we're going to do, what we board cargo ships. The great, proud American Navy is now basically Jack Sparrow, like we're pirates. Like that's what we do right now in the United States Navy. Meanwhile, you have the Secretary of Navy, John Phelan resigning or he was fired. He said he was resigning, but we learned what actually happened and Pete Hegseth wanted him gone. Apparently he was following certain court orders as it relates to Senator Kelly being disciplined. And Phelan wouldn't break the law. Even though, I mean, this guy has no military back. He's a private equity guy. John Phelan, no connections with the Navy, no connections with our military. He's a rich private equity guy who was a Republican donor. And that's what allowed Donald Trump to pick him as the Secretary of Navy. And then he quickly got fired because he wouldn't fully violate the law like Hegseth wanted him to do. And so now you have Hung Kao is going to take over as acting secretary. Hung Cow, do we, do we have any clips, Jeremy, of the guy who's now. So like in the middle of a catastrophic war, we fired the chief of staff of the army four star general, General Randy George. It's the top position in the United States Army. We previously fired the chairman of the Joint Chiefs at the beginning of Donald Trump's term. Brown. We fired that guy. Two other top people were fired when General George, the Army Chief of Staff was fired. And so not just so the top army person and the top Navy person during the middle of the war have been fired by the Trump regime. Complete chaos, complete disarray. And now we have Hung Cow. Jeremy's like which our editor Jeremy goes. Which clip of Hung Cow should we play? Jeremy? Literally play any of them right now. Okay, Play any of them because they're each worse than the next. So just play whichever one you want to.
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This is great. I know I'll be attacked by left and call me white supremacist, but I have one asked for them. It's just when you give me my hood, make sure it's got the little slits and not the circles so I can see better.
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Captain Hung Cow, thank you very much for joining us in war room. KKK jokes. So funny. So funny. And Steve Bay, what are you doing, man? Could these People behave like grownups. Please can they just behave like adults? Who behaves like this? Do we have another clip of Hong Kong, the one on witchcraft and that people in California practice witchcraft according to the new acting Secretary of the Navy. Here, play this clip.
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There's a place in Monterey, California called Lovers Point. Yeah, the original name was Lovers of Christ Point, but now it's become they took out the Christ. It's Lovers Point. And it's really. Monterey is a very dark place now. Yeah, a lot of witchcraft and the, the, the Wiccan community has really taken over there and we can't let that happen in Virginia. Virginia is, I mean especially down, down in Roanoke. They're God loving people.
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Richmond too, and Virginia Beach. And we just need to mobilize Christians across the nation.
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Okay, well, while he brings up Virginia, we might as well acknowledge that in Virginia the yes referendum vote passed shoring a constitutional amendment in Virginia's constitution that would allow the congressional delegation in Virginia to be redistricted. So it's 10 Democrats, one Republican. Yes. A Republican appointed extremist judge did rule to block the mid district gerrymander that occurred. The constitutional amendment was. Most observers of this believe that the Virginia Supreme Court is going to allow the constitutional amendment to stay in place and is going to overrule what the lower court did. There's arguments that are going to happen in the Virginia Supreme Court. If you look at the prior rulings by the Virginia Supreme Court regarding this specific constitutional amendment where the Virginia Supreme Court could have struck it down before it was voted on by the people. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of allowing the redistricting to take place. That's why when people tell you that they're pretty confident the Virginia Supreme Court should, we don't know, but should rule to uphold the amendment. They've had this exact issue before them where they upheld the new maps and what was going on in the legislature and allowed the referendum to proceed before. So that's why when people like, yeah, we know that this lower court blocked it, but we think Virginia's Supreme Court is going to allow the referendum. And it's like, why is it even a question? And why are Republicans so whiny about it? Isn't this what you wanted? Isn't this what you wanted? Democrats in Congress at the federal level wanted there to be a law passed that would ban all gerrymandering, get rid of political gerrymandering. That was the Democrats position. The Democrat position is we don't want gerrymandering. Let's just compete fairly in every state. No political gerrymandering at all. Let's just end the practice. It makes no sense. It's stupid. When you look at these districts where, you know, the idea that you could politically gerrymander and slice up districts so that your side can win, Democrats are saying we want to ban that. Republicans blocked that legislation. So let's just deal with the facts, okay? And Democrats didn't start this gerrymandering mid decade redistricting. Democrats previously were playing by the rules of the stupid game, right? The rules of the stupid game is every 10 years there's a census. And then based on the census, you can then politically gerrymander. And then a lot of the gerrymandering that would take place had these racial components to them. But then you would try to claim the Republicans particularly. But I'm not saying, you know, it's all, you know, it's a bad practice German why Democrats want to bandit ban it. But they would say, oh no, it wasn't a racial gerrymandering. The reason that we kicked out black people or the reason that we kicked out this group or that group from voting is because of the political identities, not because of any racial considerations. You know, and meanwhile, you had the Supreme Court gutting the Voting Rights act from the 1960s, you know, and the enforcement mechanism and the pre clearance requirements, which meant before you could do any gerrymandering at all, you had to go to the Department of Justice and a three district court panel to approve your gerrymander. And they, and they had to pre clear it before you can do it. Now you can do it. And then they, and then you have to then file lawsuits about it. But Trump went into Texas first, right? Trump went into Texas first and did the five seats and he was bragging, here's what we're going to do. Here's what we're going to do. And then Democrats fought back. Democrats challenged what was going on in Texas and the Supreme Court of the United States said, we're going to let it happen. It's political, political gerrymandering, okay? Racial gerrymandering, not okay, so just call the racial gerrymandering political gerrymandering and then you're good. It's basically what the Supreme Court ruled it. I think it's a ridiculous ruling. But then that became the rules of the game. So Democrats said, okay, you do it, we do it. Right. Gavin Newsom then said, we're going to do Prop 50, we'll neutralize your seats in Texas and Democrats picked up five seats in California, so Republicans got five seats in Texas. Democrats got five seats in California that was neutralized. Donald Trump then tried to run to different states to pick up a seat here or a seat there. Democrats did the same thing when they took control of the governor's chip in Virginia with Spanberger. Democrats said, okay, temporarily we're going to do a 10 to 1 map in favor of Democrats. And then Democrats now have an actual lead in the aggregate from all of the gerrymandering. This whole thing backfired. This was a dummy mander, a dummy mander on Donald Trump. And Democrats will now pick up more seats and potentially even more because Democrats have been overperforming. So Democrats may win some of those Texas seats that were dummy mandered by Donald Trump and Abbott believing Hispanic voters were moving in favor of Trump and maga, which they're not. So if those Hispanic voters vote the way they're voting in the special elections right now, not only are the Democrats going to neutralize what MAGA and Trump and Abbott have done in Texas and in some other states by picking up five seats in, in California, four seats. Right now it's six to five in Virginia and soon it will be 10 one. So it's a pickup of about four additional seats there. So Democrats pick up anywhere from nine to 10 seats if you count Utah. Republicans pick up about five to six seats if you count Texas. Democrats are plus four. But Democrats may win some of those Texas seats as well. You see, if they continue to over perform in these special elections. And so now Mag is like, my God, we never thought this through. It backfired. Oh my gosh. It's why Democrats need to fight back. It's why we all, regardless of political parties, affiliations, you need to just fight back against fascism. You need to punch fascism back in its face. And you got to stand up and exercise all of the authority you have, moral authority, formal authority, bring the community together and stand up to stand up to all this stuff. Right? I mean, they don't, they're not really strategic thinkers. Okay? I mean, that's one of the issues. If you go to Iran, you know what Donald Trump saying he didn't think through that Iran would block the strain of Hormuz. Didn't think that was going to happen. Didn't think Iran was going to attack the neighbors. Donald Trump says this publicly. Nobody expected them to shut down the Strait of Hormuz. Nobody expected them to attack their neighbors where there are American interests, which is what Iran struck American interests. In its Arab nation neighbors. No one thought this could happen. Okay, so you just rushed into this war with Netanyahu, you and Netanyahu, you don't tell any of the Arab nations that are supposedly allied with you. You don't tell NATO, you don't tell him. You just, you do it alone. Then you start attacking NATO and all of our allies, and then you act shocked when Iran does what actually all of the generals and admirals and your chairman of the Joint Chiefs warned you about. We were talking about this on Midas Touch for a very long period of time. And then don't even get me started on the fact that last June, Donald Trump said he totally obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities. And anything to suggest otherwise, Trump said is defamatory. He'll sue you. He's so. He's so thin skinned, he'll sue you. Because if you dare even say even a little bit that it was not totally obliterated. Okay, so if it was obliterated, what's the point of, what's the point of any of this? You know? And then you see the messages that he makes today. And the messages today are, as I said, let's kill the Iranians who don't want to deal. I'm ordering the Navy shoot any boat putting mines in the strait. We actually have full control over the Strait. I don't need a deal. I don't need a deal. Okay, you're all over the place right here. Then he makes up again these, like, fictitious stories about things that, that aren't happening. Like he goes, iran is having a very hard time figuring out who their leader is. They just don't know. The infighting is between the hardliners who have been losing badly on the battlefield, and the moderates, who are not very moderate at all, but gaining respect. It's crazy. We have total control over the Strait of Hormuz. No ship can enter or leave without the approval of the United States. It's sealed up tight until such time as Iran is able to make a deal. Well, every aspect of this is false. This is like a made up story. And I'm not sure, I mean, is your audience literally Jesse Waters? And so Jesse Waters can then say this to, you know, the MAGA brain morons who watch him still. Like, is, is that what this, is that the intended audience for this? Because aren't you trying to accomplish something in these negotiations? In theory? Aren't we trying to figure something out? Right. You have two paths. You're either going to go to war and Escalate or you're going to negotiate. But when you say stupid shit like this, to use a term that Donald Trump used when the feed cut out this morning or moments ago, Iran just thinks you're an idiot. They just think you're weak and pathetic. So do NATO countries, so does China, so does Russia. They look at you and they go, this guy is just out of his mind. And not like, out of his mind, like, ooh, who? It's like the crazy Ivan. Like, what's he gonna do next? No, like, literally, like, this guy is like a pathetic, weak maniac. Like, what do we even, what do we even do with him? So he's like, we control the straight of her moves. Okay? If we control the straight of her moose, then bring ships in. If you believe you control the straight of Hormuz, then take the USS Gerald Ford and bring it in and see what happens and show you control it. Bring. Bring the mine sweeping ships in. Bring, bring them in. See what happens. See actually what happens there. We'll see. Why don't you, why don't you bring in the USS Tripoli, bring in some of the ships. Just, why don't you take it all the way into the Persian Gulf and why don't you see what happens if you totally control it? And then this whole story about the hardliners against the moderates in Iran, fiction, just not true. There's nothing true about this. And then so when the media's like, well, Trump says. Trump says, yeah, Trump's a liar. He see, he lies about everything. I, I saw some, one of these stupid, you know, some of them are really good, but some of them are just such, like, Trump bootlickers, this open source intelligence. What's one of them? Some of them are really good. So I don't mean to attack someone, but there was ones like, I don't understand what happened last Friday when Donald Trump said that he reached all of these agreements with Iran and he was very specific. And so what happened that it all fell apart? Did Iran miscommunicate? No, no. Donald Trump lies about everything. This isn't some complicated thing to figure out. The guy lies about everything. Every word, every sound, every syllable, every utterance, every shit. Everything that the guy says is 100% a lie, lie, lie. Like there's nothing. It is, it is. The guy should be in a straitjacket in a very serious involuntary psychiatric ward. That's the truth. That is the reality of his situation. Yet this is act. We act, not we here, but others act like, oh, you know, this is what he does. This is his negotiating style. It's five. No, no. He deserves to be in a straitjacket and put in a psychiatric ward. He's, he's a psychotic human being. And I'm not trying to use a clinical diagnosis in order to, or my opinion thereof, I should say, in order to like, alleviate what a malicious, horrible human he is. So I always have to be careful. But, but I mean, this is someone who is completely untethered from reality and he wants to bend other people's reality and live in his horrible, you know, terrible world of lies, and he wants you to live in there. I mean, look at this other post. Any mix morning. I've ordered the United States Navy to shoot and kill any small boats or ships. I've destroyed all of their naval ships that are putting mines in the waters. There is to be no hesitation. Additionally, our minesweepers are clearing the strait right now. I am hereby ordering the that activity to continue, but at a tripled up level. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Wow. Our minesweepers. Did you all know this, everybody? Our minesweepers, even though they're satellite imagery, you know, are actually in the straight right now as we speak. And they're doing such a good job right now. So amazing, right, that Donald Trump has asked that they triple their efforts. So we're going to even do more minesweepers inside the Strait of Hormuz. And that's what's happening right now, everybody, right? You don't have any minesweepers in the Strait of Hormuz. For a moment in time. When there were the initial talks in Islamabad, Pakistan, you sent a minesweeper. For a very short period of time, the Iranian navy got on their public channel and said, sapa Navy. Sapa Navy, turn around or we'll shoot. Sapon Navy. Sapon Navy, turn around and we'll shoot. And then the United States Naval ship said, sapa Navy, we are turning around. We are turning around. We hear you. We're turning around. And then the US Naval ship turned around. And then the Trump regime denied that, then we got video footage of that. That's exactly what happened. And so you sent a navy ship to play chicken with the Iranian navy. And then when the Iranian Navy, which you claim is obliterated, said, save our Navy, turn around. Our navy turned around. How? I don't like that. As the result, you think, you think I'm rooting for that as the result right now, you think I want to see our proud Navy looking like this? You know, by the way as, as Donald Trump fired the US Navy Secretary, one of the things that Donald Trump was upset with the Navy Secretary about was that Trump wanted Trump battleships built. And the Trump ships were not being built quick enough. You see, Donald Trump doesn't like aircraft carriers. He, he doesn't like stealth ships, and he doesn't like the smaller, more mobile ships. Donald Trump likes the ships that were used in World War I, the big kind of tank looking steel, whatever, those ships were made. That's what he likes. And so he wants Trump class battleships that look like World War I ships and early World War II ships. That's what he wants. And those weren't being built quick enough. And you're like, well, Ben, you're making this up. Go, go. I've done so many videos on this. So you go watch the other videos that I do, you know, if, if you want. And then Donald Trump posts this, let's kill the negotiators or let, let's kill the ones who don't want a deal. Let's kill him. Let's kill them. Look, the bottom line, I said this before. If your view, Donald, is let's kill them, and you want to be a war criminal, and you, or you already are, but if you want to go in the direction of escalation, our generals and admirals and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and others, they've given you the plan of if you want to escalate, you'll destroy the markets, you'll put the United States in a Great Depression. More significantly, you'll cause deaths of at least tens of thousands of American soldiers, maybe hundreds of thousands, or maybe even more than that. But if you want to talk killed, killed, killed, okay, there's a path. There's a kill path for you. Okay, there's a kill path for you. But you saw the direction the war was going. You begged for this ceasefire with Iran. You agreed to their 10 point framework. That's why we are where we are now. And they're not moving off of their 10 point framework. I'm sure, I'm sure that if you remove the naval blockade and you agreed to concede some things that Iran wants, I, I would be willing to bet that Iran would move away from some of those 10 points. I believe they would go, they would move. Which ones? I mean, I think they definitely want permanent security guarantees for themselves and Hezbollah as well as the Houthis and their Shiite groups in Iraq. I think that's one, I think that they would agree to not enrich uranium to weapons grade in a very similar way they did with Obama. Maybe Obama's would be slightly stronger than what they would agree to now because they feel that they won on the battlefield. They feel that they now they have something they didn't have with Obama. They control the Strait of Hormuz, but I think they'd probably be willing to do a deal that looks like a weaker version of Obama's jcpoa, but. But something similar. So I think you'd get that. My gut would be that they would. Here's my suspicion that they would give up control over the Strait of Hormuz if you agreed that they could get paid reparations for the war in the form of either attacks on the ships until they reach a certain threshold and then it gets transferred back to international kind of international control. But until they get, I think they claim their damages are $267 billion. So maybe you would meet somewhere in the middle. You would say, okay, Iran will. I'm not suggesting this should be, but this is where a negotiation would work. Would, would, I think, net out $75 billion, which you can recover based on ship traffic through the Strait of Hormuz. Either the ships pay you or. Or we pay you. And by the way, how humiliating would that be? It would be very humiliating. But I'm trying to describe what I actually think a workable resolution is. Then you'd open up the Strait of Hormuz. We would then want an international coalition to make sure it doesn't get closed again. So we would say, okay, as long as we make these payments, we're going to now work with our NATO allies, former NATO allies, I guess, European countries, Arab nations, and we need to let those ships in so that we have other militaries in there to prevent Iran from closing the Strait of Hormuz. After Iran gets paid what it wants to get paid Iran, you can. I mean, you probably have to let them keep their ballistic missiles and Shahid drones, and you'd probably have to lift sanctions. That what I described is probably the deal, you know, that that is workable. There'll have to be technical details, obviously, with the Atomic Energy Commission to iron out, you know, dilution of nuclear. Nuclear material. Very specific stuff that witkoff, Kushner and J.D. vance know nothing about. But that's ultimately how a resolution to me would look. And if you're going, Ben, Ben, that's a sellout, man. You selling out the I'm a patriot 250th anniversary man, you're selling. You're selling out the great country, man. Okay, well then don't do a deal then. Go back to war. Go back to war. That's an option for you. Go to war and then ask. But the reality is that we're in this strategic, non strategic, but we're in this situation because of Donald Trump going it alone with Netanyahu. He screwed up. We lost. Okay. We lost based on what our objectives were. Regime change. People in the streets were supposed to greet Trump and Netanyahu like heroes. Ridiculous of a concept is that. And then we're going to obliterate this. Obliterate all of their missile capabilities. All the things they said at the beginning, we didn't do that. That's why we lost. Right. Seems pretty basic. Those were the objectives. Win, objectives achieved, no loss. Very basic, very binary. Right. Okay. So now we have to figure out what to do if you want to win. Okay. Treat it like it's the second quarter. Go to war again. Do a ground invasion of Carg island, see what happens. I don't support that. It's war crimes. I don't be very clear where I said that's your option. That's an option. The other option is negotiate. And the deal probably looks eerily similar to what I described. And again, just to be clear, I've never been in a negotiation regarding nuclear material in my life. I haven't. I do teach negotiation at a prominent law school. I do. In my past as a litigator, I was involved in some of the most contentious and high profile cases involving negotiations and settlements and resolutions before I started working at Midas. So I at least know in a very high intensity business setting, in front of the top mediators in the world. I've. I've led mediations and settlements. So I think at least that experience gives me some insight. I. I am a rapacious student of the Middle east and Iran and what their people are saying. Because in order for us to understand how to negotiate, you have to listen. One of the things I teach my law students in negotiation. Listen, ask, shut up. The worst negotiator is like a Trump worst negotiator. The best negotiator. You ask a question and you fill the negotiation with silence. And you listen to what the other side is saying, strategic silence, and you hear them and then you ask them questions. Well, it seems to me what you're saying is this. Listen. Because people will start to say how they feel. And am I missing anything here? Who are the key decision makers? Should there be anyone else that I'm talking to? Well, what do you think about this? Gather the info and the info is out there. That's why I know how to reach a resolution in this thing, because the info, the info is out there. I'll show you what the worst behavior is. Jeremy, do we have first show that clip again for people just joining us of Donald Trump as the feed cuts off, saying that he had to take a shit. Here, play this clip. He said, I could use a shit. I could use a shit. That's what's, that's what goes on in the Oval Office. Now I'm not suggesting that presidents are impervious to taking shits. I'll be very clear about that. But we're, I mean, is, is it such word vomit that you literally have to announce to your staff when you have to go do a number two? I mean, that's like, that's like, that's where we are. That this is the guy walk around the White House just talking about taking shits. I mean, I mean for real is, is this, this is what the White House. Okay. And here he is talking about how he saved eight young women. It's total made up story. I've saved eight young, beautiful women. They're so young, very young. I saved him, I saved him. False. Here, play this clip.
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Or the military operation, whatever you want to call it. And they're coming to us. The problem they have is they are very disorganized right now. Well, now, yesterday, and I was very pleased with this, eight young women were going to be executed yesterday afternoon at 6 o'. Clock. And I asked them call it a favor or call it just a moral request that they not be executed. And they came back with an answer that they won't be executing, they're going to release. It was protesting eight beautiful young women, very young women. And they were the pictures in the paper. And it's been a story for a little while. And I saw that and I said, let's see if we can save them. And they were, it was very nice what happened. So they're not going to be, what they're doing is, as you know, they're releasing four of them very shortly and they're going to keep four of them in jail for a period of one month and release them. So they won't be executed. Yeah.
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So if you're asking for none of that's true. You're like, ben, which part of it. None of it. Guy just makes it up. He, he invented a thing that maybe he saw somewhere online and he's like, I saved These eight beautiful women. I did it. I had the conversation. They were so young and pretty, and I saved them. What are you talking about? I mean, all of the Iranian leaders are publicly posting like that. You're making this up. They're not talking to you, and they have no interest in having any conversation with you at all until the naval blockade is lifted. I'll show you this one over here. How long are you willing to wait for a response from Iran? So, to be very clear, just so we can sequence the questions, the fact that this next question is even asked. Right. How long are you willing to wait for a response from Iran? I thought you just spoke with Iran and you saved the eight young, beautiful girls. Like, do we see some of just. That wasn't exactly the logic games that I needed to ace the LSATs. Okay, but here's what he says. Here, play this clip on the war with Iran. How long are you willing to wait until you get a response?
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Don't rush me, Jeff. You know, guys like you, you want to say, oh, so we were in Vietnam, like, for 18 years. We were in Iraq for many, many years. We're in for all the. I don't like to say World War II, because that was a biggie, but we were four and a half, almost five years in World War II. We were in the Korean War for seven years. I've been doing this for six weeks. And their military is totally defeated. They're. They're outside of the little wise guy ships. I call them the wise guy ships. The little boats that they have running around with guns in them. We'll take them out, too, when we see them, but
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got it here. Don't. Don't rush me. But I spoke to them. I saved the eight girls. These little ships, these little ships. The wise guys, I call them. The wise guy ships, I call them in World War II was a biggie. That was a biggie. A biggie. A biggie. The hell is going on here? How does anybody report on this and not respond like this? For real? How do you. How do you look at that and go, oh, you know, the Oval Office press conference and Donald Trump's and, you know, no biggie. A biggie. A biggie. And he talked about pooping in the Oval Office. Then he talked about saving the lives of eight girls. Yeah, normal stuff. Normal stuff. All right. My producer saying we've got to take our first break of the show. I know we were having a good conversation, though, Jeremy, with everybody in the chat. I'm seeing everybody's messages we had a big crowd today, 15 people watching. It's a great convo. 16,000 right now. All right, make sure you all hit subscribe. You may think you're subscribed, but you may not actually be subscribed. Double check also if you can, make sure you subscribe to Midas touch on audio also. All right, let's take our first and only quick break of the show. We'll be right back.
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to support the show welcome back to Ben on Breaking News. I'm Ben Meiselas, and this is your Breaking News, showing you what was going on in the White House moments ago. Donald Trump, the feed cut off, talked about having to run to the bathroom. And then he talked about saving young, beautiful women in Iran. They're very young and very beautiful, which never happened. Then he called World War II a biggie and that as long as this doesn't last longer than Vietnam, he's okay. And, and you'll notice, like, as he goes through this press conference, he keeps on changing the duration of the war. And so, you know, it's, we basically have been in this war for like two months now, but eight weeks, maybe seven or so. And so he's, he, he, he just can never say a true number. So here he is when a reporter says, so how long are you willing to wait for? Sorry, the next one goes. Trump says, we've been doing it for 5.5 weeks. And the reporter, fortunately, is like, sir, it's been eight weeks. Why, why are you saying 5.5 weeks? Like, why. Why is every word a lie? Why is every word a lie? I mean, you could say, look, it's eight weeks. And it could have, you know, when we're going to try to end by 12 weeks. But now we're, now we're two months in here. Play this clip.
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You have no pressure. It's only guys like you with a question like that about what's your time? We've been doing it for five and a half weeks.
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Weeks that the US now has been involved with Iran. You had initially said it would be
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four to six weeks, but I also took a little break.
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I gave them a break and I took a break. I took a break. So we don't count the war right now, even though the Strait of Hormuz is closed. That's how he gets his. I took a break. I took a break. I mean, I mean, what a wild. Yeah. He counts the ceasefire as we're not at war. And I took a break. All of a sudden, okay, the Strait of Hormuz is closed, everybody. There ain't no, ain't no commerce going through the Persian Gulf right now. That's a big problem. That's a big problem internationally. And I mean, you have a naval blockade in Iran, which isn't all that effective. They have full control of the Strait of Hormuz. So what are you going to do? We learned that at least 34 tankers with links to Iran have bypassed the US blockade. Financial Times confirming This both with ship tracking data as well as independent sources. Because you want to know here, for those watching here, here's how Iran does it. This is how they easily defeat the US Blockade. For those on audio, I'm showing people the path that Iran takes, and it basically takes its ships right through the coast of Iran, and then they stay in the territorial waters of Pakistan and India, and then they come right out because the US Naval blockade is not allowed in the territorial waters of Pakistan and India. So if you want to break the blockade, you just basically kind of hug the coastline as much as you can as a tanker. You know, if you see CENTCOM in the US Military bragging about interdicting ships, it's kind of more. It's, it's not in this area. They're interdicting Iranian ghost ship cargo ships in the Indo Pacific. And they, you know, they, they, they create these videos of our soldiers boarding these like, cargo ships, like pirates and searching them. And that's like, that's like the big accomplishment of our Navy. Yeah, we stopped, we stopped a defenseless cargo ship, you know, and that's why they're mocking us in Iran. I mean, they're just like America's ongoing piracy in international waters. The US Department of War announced the inspection and seizure of another tanker, claiming it was carrying Iranian oil. The company that tracks oil cargo shipments, tanker trackers, has also claimed that this tanker is the same vessel, Phoenix, that has been assisting Iran in exporting 20 million barrels of oil since 2023. And so that's what, that's what the US Navy is, is doing right now. And then Donald Trump goes, if we left Iran right now, things would be tremendous success. Like, if we left right now, if we did nothing, this is, we've already achieved victory. So now I'm just hanging out there because I like it. I like to be there, basically. So we won, and if we left, we would won. But I still want to be there just because I like it. I like being there. It's nice, nice waters. Look, if you're like Ben, did he really say that? Basically, basically, here's what he says.
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Let's play it a break and remember this. I want to make the best deal. I could make a deal right now. Do you know that if I left right now, we had a tremendous success? It would take them 20 years to rebuild. But I don't want to do that. I want to have it everlasting. I want to have it where they never get, they never have a chance to get it back. I mean, the way you asked that question. Yeah, I did say it. I thought it would take four to six weeks. And I was right. Because at the end of six weeks, at the end of four weeks, their military was decimated.
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So are you saying.
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But now what I'm doing, I don't, I can't tell you that. I don't want to put that kind of a timetable on it, but it'll go pretty quickly. And we'll have the strait opened up now. Right now we have it closed. We have total control of the strait. And the fact that it's closed, you know, they would have opened it up three days ago. They came to us and they said, we will agree to open the strait. And all my people were happy. Everybody was happy except me. I said, wait a minute. If we open the straight, that means they're going to make, make $500 million a day. I don't want them to make $500 million a day until they settle this thing. So I'm the one that kept it closed. We have total control of it and it'll open when they make a deal or something else happens. That's very positive.
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It makes a lot of sense, right? Everybody makes a great deal of sense. Everybody. I mean, what in the world is he even talking about right there? I mean, by the way, if you look at what else is happening in this godforsaken regime, like you thought it was bad enough when this guy, Thomas Fugate, this 22 year old guy who's fresh out of college, who had no experience in national security, was named by the Trump regime as the main Department of Homeland Security official tasked with overseeing government extremism. He was the main counter intelligence encounter intelligence official, Thomas Fugate III, a 22 year old. No, no experience. But you want to know who like the deputy was. Now we learned about the deputy counterintelligence official over at the Department of Homeland Security. There she is right there, Julia Varvaro. And she's a notorious sugar daddy person. What do you call it? Sugar daddy person. Sugar. Jeremy you were awfully quick with. Jeremy says you call it a sugar baby. Okay, sugar. I was gonna go with sugar daddy person, but Jeremy tells me it's a sugar baby.
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And
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how can I do this segment? Seriously now. But this was the top count, the deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism. And she would be on all these like websites where she would talk about searching for a sugar daddy and one of the sugar daddies, this divorcee who spent $40,000 bankrolling her. She. There's all these, the relationship went wrong. She wanted more money from him. Again, she's 29 years old on these sugar daddy sites, she found the sugar daddy. She wanted him to pay her more money while she's the deputy assistant secretary of counterterrorism. And then this guy, Robert Bianchi is like, he then blows the whistle on his sugar baby. This is true. This is really what happened. Because he believes, and rightfully so, that this poses a national security threat. And it does, because this is compromising, as I've said before. Like, let me be very clear, like I said this also with Kristi Gnome's husband on the bimbo ification, right? He was into Christine Ohm and her husband. They judge people, right? They attack people, they make people suffer. But behind closed doors, her husband was into bimbo ification, humiliation. So he would dress up as a woman and he would fill his chest with triple E or quadruple, whatever it is, triple E breasts, because that's what he was into. And then he would want women who look that way to humiliate and shame him on video. Like that's what he was into. And as I said before, it's not for me to. As long as what you do is safe and consensual. And I'm not going to pry into any family dynamics, but I obviously don't want situations where families are being broken apart and things are being hidden or concealed. But if, if you do things safe, consensual and in private and that's what you want to do, I'm not going to mock any of this. You know, the issue becomes public service, the hypocrisy, national security and these types of issues. Right. What I will certainly call out is the behavior of Donald Trump's Department of Labor secretary, Lori Chavez Darimer, who was fired this past week as well. I mean, because her behavior, using our taxpayer dollars, it was alleged to go to strip clubs with other people in the Department of Labor. Her husband was accused of sexual misconduct within the Department of Labor building such that he was like banned, I believe, from going into the department of those released allegations against him. And then all of these vacations on the taxpayer dime. You know, none of this should, while it should shock your conscience that this behavior is taking place, it also is not shocking that it's taking place because Donald Trump is a sexual predator. I mean, he's a, he's, he's a, he's a real vile. He's a real vile thing. Like his whole life, he was so the perversion all of the things that you're seeing, that's what goes on in that guy's head. He's a sicko. I mean, he's like Epstein's closest friend. You guys. A sicko. We shouldn't forget they're covering up the Epstein files. Right? I'll talk about that in a moment. But this guy's a sicko, you know, and. And he wants to incur. You know, he's. He's. This.
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This is.
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This is what he attracts. And again, I'm not going to judge what you do in your private. I'm not shaming the underlying conduct again. If it's safe, if it's consensual. I don't. What do they call it? Like King shaming. I'm not going to shame your things. Whatever you. Whatever you do, I really want to be. I think it's important. I don't matter you ever. Everyone is into thing. That's not. The government shouldn't be prodding into this. You know, no one should be. You know, but when you become a public servant and you've now compromised the safety of my daughter, of my community, of my state, of my country, of the Midas mighty, of our friends and family and all the people, you know, when that now is compromised with this mess right now. Yeah. You better believe I'm living and you better believe we should call it out right now. What the hell is going on here? Now? Just pivoting for a moment to Epstein. You know the updates, right? Donald Trump is working with James Comer to get Ghislaine Maxwell a pardon. I know. We knew that was coming, but it's very, very much coming. James Comer admits it. Politico rights. Political rights. Go back to that one again. Oversight Chair James Comer told me members of his panel are open to a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell so that she would share info with Congress. Do we have the specific quote from the Politico article? I think I highlighted it. I'm not sure if I gave. Yeah, here it is. When asked whether he believed it was a favorable deal to issue a pardon in return for Maxwell's testimony, Comer said, a lot of people do. My committees split on that, he added, declining to name the people on his panel who support granting a pardon. I don't speak for my committee. You literally do speak for your. You're the chair of the committee. Your job is actually to speak on behalf of the committee like you're the chair of the Oversight Committee. Your job is you speak for the committee. Okay. And you went on the record and you said that there are seems to be lots of members who believe Ghislaine Maxwell, a child sex trafficker, should get a pardon. Right. And now we also learned that the Republicans want to shut down all further hearings on Epstein and all further subpoenas and depositions and instead they want to turn everything into so called roundtables. They want to go from hearings under oath deposition subpoenas to roundtables. And the round tables would be not under oath and they would be basically just complete charades or my younger brother Jordy says charades and it would just be total bs. That's what they want to turn it into. Jeremy, I'm not sure if I gave you the assets though here, but if I did, do we have any of the Lutnick clips of Lutnick being cross examined on Epstein and what Lutnick's response was? Yeah, let's just play one of them for everybody. Let's play it.
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If President Trump has even a shred of concern about accountability for Jeffrey Epstein's enablers, he would fire you too. Beyond admin, what other financial ties do you have to Jeffrey Epstein?
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As I said, I'm going to answer
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through all these beyond admin, what other financial ties? You're the Commerce Secretary. We have a right to ask this question and get it answered again.
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I'm not going to spend the budget day discussing something I've set aside time
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to spend on this topic.
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I'm going to switch topics. Let me switch topics.
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Let's go cut to our Washington D.C. bureau Chief, Scott McFarland with an update on this all all. Let's bring in Scott McFarland.
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Jeremy, let me tell you, this is going to be one of those days. One of those days in which we hear a lot about Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and the political crisis the Epstein files are causing for the Trump administration. The latest reports that Ghislaine Maxwell is trying to angle for a pardon or perhaps getting closer to securing a pardon and again trying to get a court to vacate her conviction and sentence for for sex trafficking have raised the hackles again and raised the profile of this Epstein files crisis for the Trump administration. Raja Krishnamoorthy has asked the Department of Justice to hand over any records that they may have gotten from Ghislaine Maxwell or from her attorney in which they're discussing a part.
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I heard that Ghislaine Maxwell's attorney is now saying that she's going to be pardoned. Are you kidding me? That is that is absolutely actually insane. I've already introduced a resolution saying that she should never be given any form of clemency or leniency given that she perpetrated this ghastly sex trafficking ring with thousands of girls. She never admitted to it. She hasn't served any time showing no remorse, absolutely no, no, no to any kind of pardon for her. And by the way, what the heck is the DOJ doing with regards to, to this particular investigation? They've had two arrests. They still have not produced all the Epstein files. 3.5 million pages are missing from the production and they're now talking about pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell. This is crazy.
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And there was this report late on Wednesday that the House Oversight Committee was considering some clemency for Maxwell to get her to testify. It's been pushed back on by Republicans. I talked about it on CNN with Jake Capper and explained why that thing is just a non starter.
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Oh boy.
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Try to find a Democrat to vote for that thing. Yeah, it's like playing the Powerball. You could win, but you're not going to. You could find a Democrat to support giving your clemency.
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You will not.
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So let's start there. This thing is politically cancerous to all who touch it. I can't imagine they're going to find a critical mass to support that toxic idea.
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But again, they don't need that.
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If, if it comes down to whether
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or not President Trump.
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Yeah, and maybe it's, maybe he's crazy. Maybe President Trump is thinking about doing it and this is providing cover for
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him in some way.
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Like, oh, look, members of the House
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Oversight Committee want it.
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Although we should note Chairman Comer did not say that he wants it one way or the other. But there are other issues too. If Pam Bondi was to show last week for a deposition under subpoena and did not. Members of, of Congress do not like being circumvented when they issue a subpoena. And Robert Garcia of California has said he believes both parties will support an effort to either get this thing back on the calendar to find a contempt finding against Pam Bondi. Expect to hear more about that.
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Well, we'll be reporting on that soon as well. Want to thank Scott McFarland. Great report. And just everybody throw up blue hearts. If you are all subscribed to Scott McFarlane's YouTube channel, it's @Scott McFarland News. Make sure you all subscribe there. I see 14, 15,000 people who are watching this concurrently live. So make sure you all subscribe to Scott's channel as well and get his updates throughout the day as the Midas Touch Network continues to expand. As you know, I do a live show with Brett and Jordy at 5 Pacific, 8 Eastern today. Look forward to seeing everybody who's here. Join me and my brothers this evening for more breaking news. Oh, we we released a new video on the Midas Touch YouTube channel. A lot of work today. So as soon as this ends, go jump in and watch the latest video as well. So watch the latest video on the Midas Touch feed. As soon as this ends, just go and click to the main feed and watch the one that we just dropped during the show and then go check out Scott McFarlane's YouTube channel. Thanks everybody. I'll see you tonight with my brothers, 8 Eastern, 5 Pacific. Shout out Midas Mighty. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our substack@midasplus.com you'll
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Date: April 23, 2026
Host: Ben Meiselas
Episode Summary by MeidasTouch Network
This fast-paced breaking news update centers on the latest chaotic developments in the Trump administration amid the ongoing catastrophic war with Iran, leadership shakeups at the Pentagon, U.S. political dysfunction, and explosive allegations about the Epstein files. Ben Meiselas brings his signature humor, legal insight, and biting commentary to unpack the absurdity and dangers of the current political moment, highlighting what’s at stake for American democracy.
Quote:
“He’s talking about the catastrophic war. He’s doing his typical lies. The feed cuts out. … He said, ‘I could use a—’ and then the feed cuts out.”
(Ben, 00:36)
Quote:
“I’m not sure if it’s AI or just a made-up story, but he’s saved eight girls. … That’s what Donald Trump continues to claim is happening.”
(Ben, 01:15)
Trump wildly exaggerates U.S. control in the Gulf, falsely claiming, “We have full control over the Strait of Hormuz”—while in reality, Iran controls the strait and U.S. ships are being turned back.
Ben details how Iranian officials present a united national front and have issued statements reaffirming resolve and threatening consequences for foreign aggressors.
Facts on the ground:
Quote:
“We have literally a demented, psychotic, delusional thing in the Oval Office, who’s talking about taking shits … during press conferences. I’m not trying to be gross. That’s what he’s saying.”
(Ben, 06:00)
(See also segment on Iran’s unified official messages: 05:30–08:30)
Secretary of the Navy John Phelan has resigned/fired over legal disagreements and not following Trump loyalists’ orders.
Hung Cao is now the acting Secretary of the Navy—Ben plays clips showing Cao making KKK jokes and bizarre statements about “witchcraft in California.”
Chaos is further amplified by recent firing of the Army Chief of Staff and previous firings of senior military leaders, creating unprecedented disarray.
Insight:
(Detailed redistricting analysis: 11:33–18:45)
Quote:
“Every word, every sound, every syllable, every utterance, every shit—everything that the guy says is 100% a lie, lie, lie. Like, there’s nothing. … The guy should be in a straitjacket in a very serious involuntary psychiatric ward.”
(Ben, 28:20)
(Negotiation resolution analysis: 30:30–35:00)
Ben spotlights Trump administration appointments of underqualified individuals to crucial national security roles:
Ben distinguishes between not “kink shaming” private behavior and the real risks/hypocrisy when such conduct threatens national security.
Quote:
“Oversight Chair James Comer told me members of his panel are open to a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell so that she would share info with Congress.”
(Ben, quoting Politico, 55:00)
(Deep dive: 54:55–61:55)
On Trump’s Erratic Press Conference:
“This is the United States of America. This is the most—once the most powerful nation in the world. … This is the reality that we inhabit. And we're supposed to go on and just act like this is all normal.” (Ben, 07:40)
On the U.S. Navy Playing Pirate:
“The great, proud American Navy is now basically Jack Sparrow, like we’re pirates. Like that’s what we do right now in the United States Navy.” (Ben, 09:50)
On Trump’s Negotiating Style:
"The worst negotiator is like a Trump. The best negotiator? You ask a question and you fill the negotiation with silence. And you listen… The info is out there." (Ben, 32:00)
On Pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell:
“I’ve already introduced a resolution saying that she should never be given any form of clemency or leniency given that she perpetrated this ghastly sex trafficking ring with thousands of girls.” (Correspondent, 59:47)
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