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Narrator
Mike and Alyssa are always trying to outdo each other. When Alyssa got a small water bottle, Mike showed up with a 4 liter jug. When Mike started gardening, Alyssa started beekeeping.
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Ben
Oh come on.
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Narrator
They called a truce for their holiday and used Expedia Trip Planner to collaborate on all the details of their trip. Once there, Mike still did more laps around the pool.
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Troy Jackson
Whatever.
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Narrator
You were made to outdo your holidays. We were made to help organize the competition.
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Host/Interviewer
A packed stadium in Portland, Maine on an technically off election year, although there's a big 2026 election and primaries coming up as well. That was part of Senator Bernie Sanders Fight the Oligarchy tour. You had Troy Jackson speaking there, who's running for governor of Maine as the current governor is termed out. You have Graham Platner running for the Senate spot in Maine as Susan Collins is very concerned about everything imaginable but doesn't take any action. And you've got the people in Maine completely fired up, as you can see at that event right there. Just zooming in on what's happening in Maine. It's a story that we're seeing across the country right now, just in Maine. And hat tip to our friends at More Perfect Union for this piece showing how trades workers are facing catastrophic layoffs based on what the Trump regime is doing right now. And this is a story being repeated across the country. Red states, blue states and purple states. Here, play this clip.
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Ben
I had heard people say if you.
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Host/Interviewer
Vote for this, you're going to get what you voted for. But that's what people say every election.
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More Perfect Union Reporter
A catastrophic wave of layoffs is hitting electricians in Maine. It may be a preview of hundreds of thousands of jobs that could be lost nationwide after President Trump and Republicans just repealed billions in clean energy investments.
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Host/Interviewer
It was like a light switch got opened and all of our work just disappeared overnight.
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More Perfect Union Reporter
We went to Maine, where a solar boom has already come to an Abrupt halt.
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I got laid off at the beginning of May.
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Host/Interviewer
I haven't gotten any calls yet. I'm on unemployment right now.
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Ben
And in the state of Maine, that's 595 per week.
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Host/Interviewer
And I pay rent.
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Ben
That's 1350amonth.
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Host/Interviewer
This has nothing to do with our local union or the companies around us bidding jobs. It solely comes down to what's happening our federal government right now. By the way, give more perfect union a follow. So with that taking place in Maine, you've heard the story before, A lager and oysterman and Bernie Sanders works, walks into a bar and what happens? Well, in Maine, you have 6,500 people showing up and being energized. You have Troy Jackson, lager, former president of Maine's Senate. You have Graham Plattner, oysterman, man of the people, fighter, same with Troy Jackson. And of course you got Bernie Sanders, man of the people there as well. And talking about how this is a story that the elites, the oligarchs don't want to have told, but it's a story that the American people want. And I'll show you just a quick clip here of Troy Jackson speech there. And this really resonated me where he says we have to change the status quo. We do. Here, play this clip.
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Troy Jackson
I'm running for governor because the American dream of putting down roots and owning a home and being able to provide for your family with a good paying job is moving way out of reach. I am running for the people who work their entire lives and still can't afford to retire because the economic system in this country is rigged against them. And I'm running for all the workers who've been told to do or go home home, who've been told that they are replaceable and that their lives are dispensable. And look, I'm running for that little boy who stood behind his father at the high land years ago and all those kids who've watched their parents work so hard and still struggle and their lives have been defined by wealth inequality and the status quo. We have to break the status quo. It's not working for us.
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Host/Interviewer
We do have to break the status quo. It's not working for Americans right now. Let's bring in Troy Jackson, former president of Maine Senate, lifelong lager, running for governor of Maine. Troy, it's great to see you talk to us about that event and frankly, what you're seeing as you're traveling across the great state of Maine.
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Ben
Yeah, well, thanks, Ben. Getting a little emotional watching that again. I mean, the status Quo is exactly what is the problem. I mean, I think people across the state and probably across the country are feeling like, doesn't matter who it is, Democrats or Republicans, you know, they're getting a raw deal. And that's what you're seeing. And that's what I'm hearing and feeling. You know, I was the second highest ranking Democrat in the state of Maine, and I still feel like, you know, no one's listening across this state to what's going on with everyday people. They feel like they're getting left behind in a system that is. Only thing that seems like people want are tax cuts for the wealthy. And that's what you're seeing in Congress is that, you know, guys like Trump are just lying to people so that they can get tax cuts for the wealthiest people in this country. And that never works for people like us. It never has, it never will. And for me, it seems like, you know, I've been born to fight against people like Trump. I mean, to take on bullies like him, to fight against billionaires. Since I was a young boy, that's what I have always had to deal with, and that's what I'm going to deal with if I'm elected governor once again. Because we need somebody that's working class person that understands what working class people are going through because, you know, they're upset and they're pissed off, and I don't blame them.
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Host/Interviewer
You know, it seems you have with people suffering. Trump was talking to them, but Trump was defrauding them and saying, here's what I'm going to do. I promise you this. I promise you that it's all going to happen on day one. But it was all lies. And then it seemed that in 2024, at least the Democrats weren't talking to them, were kind of talking somewhere else. And so people were saying, well, this guy's promising me a bunch of things. Yeah, he's got a history of defrauding people over and over and over again, but he's pretending that he cares, not knowing, again, that that's what con artists do. But now it seems that people are recognizing, Whoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, you've defrauded me. This was all one big part of the, the Trump life of, of lies. Why did I fall for this? And now you have Democrats like you and Graham and Bernie who are out there saying, look, listen, we're, this is what we need to do and this is how we have to fight back. And we're just going to do it from the grassroots. Can you talk to that.
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Ben
Well, I think that you're absolutely right. In the absence of nothing, I mean, people are going to gravitate towards someone that at least will tell you what they're going to do to help you. And in this case, that's exactly what happened. Like, I don't think the Democrats didn't want to help, but they just quit talking about the things that were important. And that's certainly something that I have always fought for. I mean, you know, my last session we did child care, you know, which is a big deal. We were fighting for elderly care, which here in Maine is a real problem. You know, we lost 40% of our nursing homes, you know, trying to provide better jobs, trying to give health care. Our health care in Maine is projected increase 32%. Prescription drugs. I mean, where I live, you can look into Canada and see, you know, people in New Brunswick that don't have to worry about prescription drugs and health care. I mean, that's a major. Those are major issues, not just in Maine, but across this country. And people are struggling with those things. And Democrats seem like they've kind of given up that message to Republicans. And that is why working class people, unfortunately, are leaving the party or looking for something else. And we have to fight for those people because that they deserve it. And that's, for me, what I started in politics about. I mean, I never once thought I was ever going to be a politician. I never wanted to be a politician, but I wanted to fight for the people in my community. And for the last 20 years, that's what it's been about, is showing up and trying to deliver for my constituents. And I'm upset that we're still in this position today, that we're not doing the things that we should be doing for everyday people. And for me, it's not about patting ourselves on the back, about delivering for people that need real things, you know, done for them. And politicians should be upset with themselves if they haven't delivered. And that's what is the issue right now, is that people, it's not about stepping stones and moving on. It's about delivering for people in this country that really need help. And we're not doing that. And we need to start doing that.
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Host/Interviewer
It's interesting about what Maine is doing. So you have the primary coming up in. When does the primary come up, Troy? When's that? So you get the primary in June. It's ranked choice and it's open so independents, anybody can, can vote in it. Now when you're traveling the country are you, I mean, and you're traveling the state. More significantly, are you seeing shifts of Trump voters and independents who moved one way saying, you know, this guy, you know this guy screwed me, or are you seeing Mick, what are you seeing?
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Ben
We're definitely seeing people are having buyer Morse now. I mean, with tariffs here in Maine, you know, concern about lumber prices and things like that, parts farmers trying to get their, their fertilizer out of Canada, all those things are becoming really problematic. And then, you know, the, the issue of, you know, people trying to, you know, be able to get, like you said, other, other things that at the tourism, things like that here in Maine is way down. So those are all challenges and then just food prices and things like that. So you're seeing a lot of problems there. But then with the big bogus bill that they passed, you know, we're going to see a lot of issues here with our hospitals and with our nursing homes. That's going to be a real problem. And I think it's only going to get worse with the people here in Maine are going to see that. We're really going to be in a lot of challenges here. A lot of people are really being hurt by this administration. So I think it's only going to get worse in that regard.
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Host/Interviewer
Troy, before we go, where can people find out more information about the campaign and any final message you want to have to all of our 6 million subscribers out there?
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Ben
Well, I think, you know, going to JacksonForMain.com is where you can find out more information. But I think the biggest thing here is that, you know, this will be, this campaign is, you know, about everyday working class people. That's, you know, what this is all race is about. I think I'd be the only person that would actually be a governor, that would actually be a union member. I know what it's like to get grease on my hands, you know, and I'm an everyday, like I said, working class person and you know, we need the support because we don't. I don't come from a rich family, you know, I know people, what they think about me. I talk funny. I, I didn't go to a great school or anything like that. I went to an everyday university. But, but I'm fighting for everyday people and this is a different campaign. So I certainly appreciate the help and I'm awesome. It's been great to be on the show.
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Host/Interviewer
Troy. It's great to have you on the show. We hope to have you back soon. Keep us posted on everything that's happening in Maine and good luck on the campaign. Thanks everybody. Hit subscribe let's get to 6 million subscribers. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our substack@midasplus.com you'll get daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, ad free episodes of our podcast and more exclusive content only available@midasplus.com.
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