Trump Accidentally Reveals his Dark Past with Ivanka

Summary

The MeidasTouch Podcast: Trump Accidentally Reveals his Dark Past with Ivanka

Date: December 15, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Episode Theme:
A deep dive into Donald Trump’s troubling history involving his daughter Ivanka, exposing a pattern of disturbing comments, questionable associations (notably with Jeffrey Epstein), and unsettling public behavior. The episode critically examines media portrayals, Trump family dynamics, and the dark underbelly of high society’s relationship with power and exploitation, blending serious critique with the brothers' signature banter and forthright support of democracy.

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Episode Overview

This episode pulls together a wealth of video and print evidence to spotlight a longstanding, uncomfortable narrative: Donald Trump's behavior and rhetoric regarding Ivanka, as well as the social circles they moved in—including the notorious Jeffrey Epstein. Using news clips, interviews, and published photos, the Meiselas brothers argue that Trump's public remarks, past associations, and Ivanka's own modeling industry experiences point to a darker reality beneath the glitzy Trump persona.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Trump’s Unusual Focus on Ivanka at a White House Party

[02:10 – 03:39]

• The podcast opens with Donald Trump at a White House Christmas party, seemingly fixated on someone in the crowd who “looked just like Ivanka.”
• Quote: "He stopped his speech like he saw a ghost or he saw Ivanka... Ivanka is clearly on his mind as Donald Trump is also worried about his dark past surfacing." (Main Host, 02:10)
• Trump’s remarks were:
  • "Boy, do you look like Ivanka? Has anyone ever told you that?" (Donald Trump, 03:11)
  • "You look just like Ivanka. Which is a great compliment, actually." (Donald Trump, 03:21)

2. Scrutiny of Trump/Ivanka Public Photos and Body Language

[03:39 – 04:27]

• Host reviews photographs of Trump and a young Ivanka, critiquing the “abnormal intimacy” captured—sitting on Trump’s lap, kissing on the cheek, posed together on a bed.
• Quote: "These are not normal, at least in my opinion. You could tell me if your opinion is different. These are not normal father, daughter photos at all. Really disturbing stuff right there." (Main Host, 03:39)

3. Ivanka’s Modeling Career and Media Coverage

[04:27 – 06:47]

• Clips are played of teenage Ivanka discussing her modeling. (Clip begins, 04:27)
• The New York Times is cited for sexualizing Ivanka as an underage teen:
  • "Wearing see through white dresses that would turn heads… There are the sexy outfits… She’s underage." (Main Host quoting NYT, 04:41)
• Additional clips show Ivanka brushing off claims of nepotism in the modeling world.
• Trump weighs in: "The beauty of Ivanka is that she's really had very little rejection. Now that's both good and bad..." (Donald Trump, 06:47)

4. Trump’s Overly Sexualized Public Comments on Ivanka

[09:12 – 10:10]

• The hosts play notorious clips:
  • On live TV:
    • "Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that if I weren't happily married." (Donald Trump, 09:21, in response to ‘what do you have in common with Ivanka?’)
    • "She's six feet tall. She's got the best body, your daughter." (Donald Trump, 09:30)
    • "Can I say this? A piece of ass. Yeah. She looks more voluptuous than ever.” (Donald Trump, 09:36)
    • “If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” (Donald Trump, 09:57; further discussed on The View)
• Ivanka’s embarrassed responses are heard: "Stop it." (Ivanka Trump, 10:03)
• The cast, and TV commentators, react with visible discomfort:
  • “Oh, it's so weird.” (Commentator, 10:01)

5. Trump, Ivanka, Epstein, and High Society’s Underbelly

[11:11 – 13:10]

• The episode highlights disturbing overlaps between Trump, Ivanka, and Jeffrey Epstein:
  • Trump’s comment: "He's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." (Donald Trump quoting himself, 11:31)
  • Trump’s bold claims about being allowed backstage at Miss Teen Universe, observing contestants undressing, justified by his ownership.
  • Lawsuit references regarding rape allegations against Trump involving minors.
  • Notes Trump and Prince Andrew’s public association and both men's ties to Epstein.
• Host commentary: "While this was all taking place... I just think about Donald Trump's background of who he was hanging out with and what he was doing around this time." (Main Host, 11:11-11:49)
• Ivanka herself in a clip: "I had the impression that he was interested in younger women and that, you know, women would age out for him." (Ivanka Trump, 12:18)

6. Final Reflection and Call to Action

[13:32 – 13:40]

• Host brings together the threads:
  • "Well, there you have it. Let me know what you think, folks. Really sad and disturbing..." (Main Host, 13:32)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Donald Trump, on Ivanka at White House party
  "You look just like Ivanka. Which is a great compliment, actually." ([03:21])
• Host, on Trump’s family photos:
  "These are not normal father, daughter photos at all. Really disturbing stuff right there." ([03:39])
• Main Host, quoting NYT coverage of teenage Ivanka:
  "Wearing see through white dresses that would turn heads… sexy outfits… She’s underage." ([04:41])
• Donald Trump, on national TV:
  "I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that if I weren't happily married." ([09:21])
  "If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her." ([09:57])
• Main Host, summarizing
  "Well, there you have it. Let me know what you think, folks. Really sad and disturbing..." ([13:32])

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:10]: Episode main theme introduction; Trump fixated on Ivanka lookalike at White House.
• [03:11-03:21]: Trump makes repeated references to Ivanka appearance.
• [03:39-04:27]: Analysis of father-daughter photos, host commentary.
• [04:27-06:47]: Ivanka’s modeling past, NYT sexualization, Trump’s take on her.
• [09:12-10:10]: Compilation of Trump’s sexualized comments about Ivanka.
• [11:11-13:10]: Deeper dive: Trump-Epstein connection and accusations.
• [13:32-13:40]: Host’s conclusion and emotional reflection.

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Tone & Language

The episode combines serious investigative journalism with frank, sometimes incredulous commentary. The tone is critical, sometimes darkly comedic, but always forceful in its support of exposing abuse of power and defending democratic values.

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Summary

Through clips, press analysis, and their own forthright discussion, the MeidasTouch brothers lay out a disturbing pattern of behavior, language, and association in Donald Trump’s public and private life with Ivanka. The episode leverages direct quotes and primary sources to foster a conversation about power, privilege, and accountability at the highest levels of American society.

Transcript

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O-O-O.com Donald Trump is panicking. It's not just his dark past that is surfacing. It's also the dark past of Ivanka that is surfacing. As you may know, Donald Trump had brought Ivanka around Jeffrey Epstein on at least one occasion. Also, Ivanka was modeling for something called Elite Model Agency when it was run by a very bad person named John Casablancas. I want to share with you though, this is on Donald Trump's mind Because during a White House Christmas party on Sunday, he brought up Ivanka. He saw someone who was right across from him at this Christmas party. And he stopped his speech like he saw a ghost or he saw Ivanka. And he was like, you look just like Ivanka. I thought you were Ivanka. Ivanka is clearly on his mind as Donald Trump is also worried about his dark past surfacing. Let me show you what went down at the White House this past Sunday. Play this clip.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

The two of those guys, the greatest. Then we have a man. To me, this is the most interesting story. Boy, do you look like Ivanka? Has anyone ever told you that?

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I'm looking.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

I'm saying, is that Ivanka? Could you just turn around for the camera? Does she look, does she look like Ivanka? It's the most unbelievable thing. So I wouldn't, I didn't want to take a chance. I say, is that Ivanka? You look just like Ivanka. Which is a great compliment, actually.

[Narrator / Main Host]

And I'd like to just share with you right now some of these photos regarding Ivanka. So, you know this photo here, it's Donald Trump, Ivanka and Epstein. You see that photo right there? Just the way Donald Trump would touch and hold Ivanka in these photos that I'm showing you sitting on the lap. I mean, this photo. Then there's another photo over here, them on a bed together with her kissing his cheek. These are not normal, at least in my opinion. You could tell me if your opinion is different. These are not normal father, daughter photos at all. Really disturbing stuff right there. And then we have these videos of Ivanka that have surfaced. Here she is talking about being a model at Elite Model Agency here. Let's play this clip right here.

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

My family has money and they can support me, but I model because I love to model and it's something that I enjoy doing. So I don't think it's fair that they made me sound greedy about it. And all because I model, because I love to model. And that's really all there is to it.

[Narrator / Main Host]

Here's how the New York Times in 1997 described her when she was probably 15 or 16 years old. They described her as wearing see through white dresses that would turn heads. See through white dresses. Come on. She's an underage girl at this time. She seems to have this modeling thing down. They write, there are the sexy outfits. Sexy outfits. She's underage. Then when you show up for an interview wearing floor length see through white dresses, you tend to turn heads. There is the denial that she Exercises and the chowing down, eating a nice sized lunch in front of a reporter, proving that she is not a wacky dieter. I want you to watch here as Ivanka looks at her childhood bed. This is from several years back, but watch what happens as she's giving this interview. And she takes a look at her bed right here. Here, play this clip.

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

This was my bed. It's a little small for me now. Probably why I don't stay in here anymore, but yeah.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

And what floor are we on?

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

We are on the 68th floor. Not a bad view to wake up to.

[Narrator / Main Host]

And here's another video of her involved in modeling. Tell me what you think. Play this clip.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Ivanka is quickly becoming a star in her own right. Along with her editorial work, she is the new face of both the Mugler trademark and Sasson ad campaigns.

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

People are always going to speculate and people are always going to wonder could she have done it without her parents being who they are? And I've always thought in this industry your parents can't really get you that far. It's more about the public opinion and if the public doesn't like you, then you're never going to succeed. She has to go through learning stage. You know, she's really there, just starting. She has a lot of confidence, a lot of voice and a lot of personality and she's hard worker and if you start with those qualities, you really can go places.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

Well, you know the beauty of Ivanka is that she's really had very little rejection. Now that's both good and bad because at a certain point perhaps she does have rejection and she won't know how to take it. But I think she's very focused and I think she also understands how, she really understands how life works.

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[Narrator / Main Host]

Here she is getting makeup. Let me show you this clip. Let's play it right here.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

First stop, makeup. From there, it was time for a funky do where her hairstylist was hitting on her dad's fortune rather than her.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

Can you ask your dad if he's got half a million even than me?

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Next up, we got a sneak peek at the clothes she'd be wearing.

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

This is my last outfit, which is absolutely gorgeous.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

And all that was left was showtime. So how did it go?

[Narrator / Main Host]

And then over here, I'll show you this. You have Donald Trump speaking about Ivanka on Howard Stern and talking about her on the View. You know these clips right here. Play this clip.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Ivanka, what's the favorite thing you have in common with your father? Either real estate or golf. Donald, with your daughter?

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that if I weren't happily married. And you know her father, my daughter Ivanka.

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

Yeah.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

She's six feet tall. She's got the best body, your daughter.

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She's beautiful.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

Can I say this? A piece of ass. Yeah. She looks more voluptuous than ever. She's actually always been very voluptuous. She's almost six. You're going up the escalator. I'm going to be dating her in 10 years. Can you believe me?

[Narrator / Main Host]

Here's a longer one of Donald Trump speaking about Ivanka on the View. So you can see the slightly longer clip of it for yourself. Play this clip.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

If Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.

[Narrator / Main Host]

Stop there.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Oh, it's so weird.

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

Stop it.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

You know what?

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

You are terrible.

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You know? And then I would be remiss if I didn't mention that Ivanka's mom, Ivana, when she died a few years back under fairly mysterious circumstances as well, she was buried in the back lot of Bedminster and this is what her grave looked like. You see all of the grass that has grown over the grave at least when the Daily Mail got this scoop and this exclusive right here. Real, you know, real horrible. Real horrible stuff right there. You know, I'm also reminded over here about this letter right here that was written Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein. There must be more to life than having everything. Yes, there is. But I won't tell you what it is, nor will I, since I also know what it is. We have certain things in common, Jeffrey. Yes, we do. Come to think about it. Enigmas never age. Have you noticed that? As a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you. A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday. And may every other. And may every day be a wonderful secret. And again, I just think about while this was all taking place. You know, I just think about Donald Trump's background of who he was hanging out with and what he was doing around this time. And so, you know, here's the video right here of again of Donald Trump and his Epstein connections, if you will. Here, play this clip.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Charges that Jeffrey Epstein was running a sex trafficking ring in the early 2000s that included underage girls as young as 14 years old. Donald Trump in 2002 said of Epstein, he's a lot of fun to be with. It's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

He routinely spoke fawningly of Jeffrey. He admired Epstein's lifestyle. Your daughter, she's got beautiful. Can I say this? A piece of. She's actually always been very voluptuous. What does Tiffany have of Marlon? She's got Marlon's legs. We don't know whether or not she's got this pregnant.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

You were playing tennis and you came off the court, quote, look at that piece of. I would love some of that. It so happened that Trump was referring to Cohen's then 15 year old daughter, Samantha.

[Ivanka Trump (Interview Clips)]

I had the impression that he was interested in younger women and that, you.

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[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Miss Teen Universe. Yeah, that's like giving Jeffrey Dahmer a cooking show.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

I'll go backstage before a show and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. Standing there with no clip.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Donald Trump is heard making questionable comments.

[Narrator / Main Host]

About a young girl.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

You're going up the escalator. I'm going to be dating her in 10 years. A lawsuit against the presumptive GOP nominee alleges he raped a girl when she.

[Narrator / Main Host]

Was 13 years old.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

Prince Andrew answering questions for the first.

[Narrator / Main Host]

Time about his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

I don't know Prince Andrew, but it's, it's a tough story. Trump has been photographed with Prince Andrew as far back as the year 2000.

[Commentator / Clip Voice]

Ghislaine Maxwell is accused of helping Epstein sexually abuse underage girls.

[Donald Trump (Clips and Commentary)]

I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I laid lived in Palm beach and I guess they lived in Palm beach, but I wish her well. You, you know about sexual predators and things like that. I mean, you are one. All right, I was going to say that.

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Well, there you have it. Let me know what you think, folks. Really sad and disturbing hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million and thank you so much for watching.

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