The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode Title: Trump AG Humiliates Herself under Cross-Exam at Hearing
Date: February 12, 2026
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

Episode Overview

In this explosive episode, the Meiselas brothers break down a tumultuous House Judiciary Committee hearing featuring Donald Trump’s Attorney General, Pam Bondi. The hearing dives deep into the Trump administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, special prison treatment for Ghislaine Maxwell, and the Department of Justice's alleged targeting of political opponents and whistleblowers. Pam Bondi’s evasive, combative, and at times, bewildering testimony under cross-examination draws bipartisan criticisms and leaves her credibility severely damaged.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pam Bondi Under Fire: A Collapsing Testimony

• Bondi is grilled by multiple Democratic Congress members about Epstein connections, DOJ transparency, and the protection afforded to key Trump associates.
• Her evasions, interruptions, and defensive posture undermine her credibility before the committee and the public.
• Ben: “It was utterly humiliating for her. Frankly, it was utterly humiliating for The United States.” [02:16]

2. Congressional Cross-Examinations: Grilling the AG

A. Congresswoman Ballant (Vermont)

• Demands answers about connections between Trump administration officials and Jeffrey Epstein.
• Ballant: “These are senior officials in the Trump administration. This is not a game.” [03:34]
• Bondi accuses Ballant of “pathetic mischief,” blatantly dodging substantive responses.

B. Congresswoman Ross

• Exposes Bondi’s lack of knowledge about Ghislaine Maxwell’s VIP prison transfer (“Club Fed”) and notes the impact on survivors.
• Ross: “Every time she does get these perks...the survivors who are sitting here...see themselves as being denied justice.” [05:01]

C. Congressman Ted Lieu (California)

• Presses Bondi on Trump’s presence at Epstein parties and accuses her of perjury.
• Lieu: “You said there's no evidence of crime. I'm showing you… here is a witness statement… She met a girl who said she was raped by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.” [07:16]
• Demands accountability and calls for her resignation: “If you had any decency, you would resign right after this hearing concludes.” [08:20]

D. Congressman Goldman

• Highlights Bondi’s lack of communication with Epstein survivors, despite their willingness to cooperate.
• Goldman: “How many of you were denied or ignored by the Department of Justice? All of them.” [09:23]

E. Congressman Neguse (Colorado)

• Exposes the systematic gutting of the DOJ’s National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team.
• Neguse: “You eliminated the National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team last year. So I understand why you don't want to tell the American people who works there.” [11:25]
• Suggests Trump’s personal financial motivations: “Her boss...is making money hand over fist...through cryptocurrency holdings.” [12:39]

F. Congressman Massie (Republican, Kentucky)

• In rare bipartisan moment, slams Bondi for covering up the child sex trafficking scandal, demands transparency.
• Massie: “You are responsible for this portion of it.” [13:49]

G. Congressman Raskin

• Raises ethical concerns over DOJ preparedness to cut Trump a $10 billion settlement in a suit over his leaked tax returns.
• Raskin: “Do you think it would violate the domestic emoluments clause for the President to work out a deal...to get money in one of these cases?” [16:01]
• Bondi dodges: “I’m not going to discuss pending litigation.” [16:16]

H. Congresswoman Scanlon

• Exposes secretive DOJ process for labeling entities as “domestic terrorist organizations,” with chilling implications for civil liberties.
• Scanlon: “Your current position is that you have a secret list...that you won’t share with Congress. If you falsely designate an American, there’s nothing they can do about it.” [17:33]

3. Defensive, Evasive, and Unhinged Behavior

• Bondi devolves into partisan attacks, accuses members of “Trump Derangement Syndrome,” refuses to answer basic questions, and frequently claims to be a victim.
• At one point, Bondi asks, “What does Jekyll and Hyde mean?” [23:03]
• Congressman Moskowitz: Points out, “Trump’s name appears more times in the Epstein files than God or Jesus’s name in the Bible.” [23:29]
• Bondi takes offense at Moskowitz’s use of a “Trump Bible” prop: “Nothing is funny about mocking the Bible and holding up a Trump Bible. That’s all I have to say.” [25:02]

4. Staggering Evidence of Trump-Epstein Ties

• Evidence is repeatedly cited that multiple senior Trump officials, and Trump himself, appear in or are referenced throughout the Epstein files by name.
• Crockett: “There is a lot of evidence in these files that suggests [Trump] is very close friends with a lot of men who are pedophiles.” [27:58]
• References to Mar-a-Lago as a location for meetings with abuse victims [28:20].

5. Survivors Ignored, Accountability Evaded

• All survivor groups present confirm they have reached out to DOJ and were ignored, yet remain willing to testify.
• DOJ accused of actively defaming, intimidating, and refusing to meet with victims [09:23].

6. Broadening the Scope: Political Weaponization & Transparency

• Bondi’s DOJ accused of focusing on left-wing groups while deleting data on right-wing extremism.
• Refusal to answer questions about domestic terrorist designations, with Scanlon providing historical and legal context for chilling effect on civil society [18:32-21:18].

7. Closing Fireworks: Committee in Disorder

• Hearing repeatedly devolves into chaos, with Bondi attacking committee members, deflecting blame to past administrations, and denying obvious evidence.
• Ballant: “Do you want to go there, Attorney General? Talking about anti-Semitism to a woman who lost her grandfather in the Holocaust?” [27:12]
• Final words from Crockett: “You will be remembered as one of the worst attorney generals in history. An attorney general who has prioritized obstruction over justice, corruption over the law, fealty to the president over loyalty to the Constitution.” [27:39]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | [02:16] | Ben Meiselas | “It was utterly humiliating for her. Frankly, it was utterly humiliating for The United States.” | | [03:34] | Rep. Ballant | “These are senior officials in the Trump administration. This is not a game.” | | [05:01] | Rep. Ross | “Every time she does get these perks...the survivors...see themselves as being denied justice.” | | [07:16] | Rep. Lieu | “You said there's no evidence of crime. I'm showing you… here is a witness statement… She met a girl who said she was raped by Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.” | | [08:20] | Rep. Lieu | “If you had any decency, you would resign right after this hearing concludes.” | | [09:23] | Rep. Goldman | “How many of you were denied or ignored by the Department of Justice? All of them.” | | [11:25] | Rep. Neguse | “You eliminated the National Cryptocurrency Enforcement Team last year.” | | [13:49] | Rep. Massie | “You are responsible for this portion of it.” | | [16:01] | Rep. Raskin | “Do you think it would violate the domestic emoluments clause...to get money in one of these cases?” | | [17:33] | Rep. Scanlon | “Your current position is that you have a secret list...that you won’t share with Congress.” | | [23:29] | Rep. Moskowitz | “Trump's name appears more times in the Epstein files than God's name appears in the book about God.” | | [25:02] | Pam Bondi | “Nothing is funny about mocking the Bible and holding up a Trump Bible. That's what you did. You made a joke and I find offensive. That's all I have to say.” | | [27:39] | Rep. Crockett | “You will be remembered as one of the worst attorney generals in history. An attorney general who has prioritized obstruction over justice, corruption over the law, fealty to the president over loyalty to the Constitution.” |

Highlighted Timestamps for Major Segments

• [02:16] – Show opens with Bondi’s humiliating testimony
• [03:34] – Ballant cross-examines Bondi: Epstein ties in Trump admin
• [05:01] – Ross presses on Maxwell’s prison treatment and survivors
• [07:16] – Lieu accuses Bondi of perjury over Trump-Epstein evidence
• [09:23] – Goldman confronts Bondi over ignoring survivors
• [11:25] – Neguse exposes destruction of cryptocurrency enforcement team
• [13:49] – Massie demands answers about Epstein coverup
• [16:01] – Raskin raises $10B IRS settlement ethics
• [17:33] – Scanlon: DOJ’s secret “domestic terrorist” lists
• [23:29] – Moskowitz: Trump’s name frequency in Epstein files
• [25:02] – Bondi offended by Trump Bible joke
• [27:39] – Crockett: Bondi’s legacy as AG

Tone and Language

The episode is marked by the brothers’ trademark mix of legal insight, incredulity, and biting humor. The mood swings from outrage to dark comedy as the absurdity of Bondi’s performance mounts. The congressional questioning is sharp, often deeply personal, and leverages both bipartisan frustration and mounting evidence in an attempt to break through Bondi’s stonewalling.

Conclusion

This episode provides a detailed, passionate breakdown of an extraordinary congressional hearing, exposing ongoing corruption, lack of accountability, and mishandling of one of the most notorious sex crimes cases in recent history. The MeidasTouch brothers blend fierce advocacy with sharp analysis, calling out hypocrisies and demanding real justice for survivors and the American public.