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Another very disturbing finding in what has been released thus far in the Epstein files. And you know, it's only been a very small percentage of files that have been released. It turns out that back in 2018, 2019, Donald Trump's DOJ, based on what we're reading, seems to have been engaged in spying of the main journalist who was breaking the big Epstein bombshells. Julie K. Brown, who was right writing for the Miami Herald, is credited for reopening investigations into Jeffrey Epstein with her exposes that were published under the title Perversion of Justice in 2018 and 2019. Ultimately, when prosecutors charged Epstein in July 2019, they credited the investigative journalism work people like Julie K. Brown. But behind the scenes, it seems that Trump's DOJ and FBI were spying on her. They were monitoring monitoring her movements and her flights, even her maiden name, which she said she rarely if ever uses in any public setting. The DOJ and FBI were watching her movements. Why would they be watching her movements? And then there's still some additional information here that is redacted. Julie K. Brown is horrified. The Democrats in the House Oversight Committee are demanding answers right now. Julie K. Brown posted the following this weekend. Does somebody at the DOJ want to tell me why my American Airlines booking information and flights in July 2019 are part of the Epstein files, attached to a grand jury subpoena as the flight itinerary includes my maiden name and I did book this flight. Why was the DOJ monitoring me? Laura Rosen says this is disturbing. So the top reporter on the Epstein case This occurred during the first Trump regime, a month before Epstein was found hanged. The Democrats on the House Oversight Committee just posted the following the Department of Justice needs to explain why travel information and booking itineraries for a journalist or are in the Epstein files. Now. Julie K. Brown explained that of course she expected her name to come up in some areas of the Epstein files and she was the person breaking the big stories. But she never expected that. Her movements before the DOJ ultimately indicted Epstein and before Epstein allegedly died by suicide, and that she was being followed and spied on by Donald Trump's DOJ at that time should be noted as well. She's still doing incredible reporting on Epstein. Just the other day she brought up the following email again. That was part of this small amount of files that the DOJ has released and it's heavily redacted. She posted the following this was just the other day. This photo of Donald Trump and Ghislaine Maxwell that was found on Steve Bannon cell phone should be made public. There are prosecutors who are talking to each other in a heavily redacted email and the photo is redacted as well. And the email between these these prosecutors says the following GM photo on Bannon phone Ghislaine Maxwell unbanned phone hi Redacted. Why is that redacted? I hope you're well. I'm helping out with the responsiveness review for WBTW and I've been looking through that's the We Build the Wall federal prosecution and there was a state prosecution as well. I've been looking through Steve Bannon's iPhone cell phone on cell bright his iPhone 7 on cell bright. As I was going through the images from that phone, I found an image of Trump and Delaine Maxwell on Bannon's phone and see screenshot from cell Bright attached. I discussed with Sonny and we wanted to flag this for you in case it was of any importance to you. Since you are on both cases, please let me know if you'd like anything further done with this. Thanks so much. There is zero justification for this photo to be redacted. And that's what Julie K. Brown said. Now going back to Julie Brown's reporting for the Miami Herald, the series of her reports are compiled under the heading Perversion of Justice. And back on November 28, 2018, and that period of time, she was writing stories like this, how a future Trump cabinet member gave a serial sex abuser the deal of a lifetime. That broke the story about the sweetheart deal that Alex Acosta gave to Epstein. When Acosta was the United States Attorney, the top federal prosecutor for the Southern District of Florida in 2007. Here's another article from Julie K. Brown. Cops work to put serial Sex abuser in prison. Prosecutors work to cut him a break. Yet again, she broke massive stories like that. How about this one? For years, Jeffrey Epstein abused teen girls, police say. Here is a timeline of his case. She spoke to dozens and dozens of a hundred plus victims and she, in painstaking detail, was telling their stories. She brought it back to the forefront and that ultimately led to Epstein being prosecuted again. All the while, Trump's DOJ was spying on her. By the way, she published a book called Perversion of Justice, the Jeffrey Epstein Story. And that's a compilation of her articles and a broader reflection on what she uncovered. One of the best investigative reporters being spied on, we now learn. Now we had the opportunity to speak to Julie K. Brown through one of our programs on the Midas Touch Network called the Court of History. You can see why she was very, very concerning to the Trump regime. She knows a lot and she's got incredible recall and details. For example, she focused on the model agencies of Epstein and Trump and how these model agencies were used. Here's what she told us on the Midas Touch Network legal AF the Court of History. Play this clip.
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Epstein had a company, a modeling company, and he. So Brad Edwards deposed the accountant who worked for that company, worked for Epstein's company, modeling company. And in that deposition, she provided a lot of detail about what he was doing. And it's clear that he was using that company, a modeling company, as a cover in part for the sex trafficking that he was doing. Because she was saying she was describing exactly what they would do. They would send the youngest girls down to Epstein's place in Palm beach. And she, you know, she just gave more detail than we had had before, including the fact that when Epstein formed his, that company, he said to her, I want it to be set up just like Donald Trump's modeling agency. So what that means in that record.
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She testified to that under oath, right, that Epstein said that he wanted to model his modeling company that he would invest in on Trump's.
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That's right. That's right. And so, I mean, we don't know what that means, whether that, you know, we can't say that that means that Trump's modeling agency was trafficking. But we do know that in some respects, Epstein's modeling company was used in part to recruit young girls from all over the world and send them to events and Parties where ostensibly they would be expected to have sex with some of the, you know, party goers.
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There are parties that are described of other people who organized models with both Trump and Epstein present. There's one that was described where they're the only two guests for 25 some young models.
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Epstein, Trump.
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Yeah. Jean Luc Brunel from Paris headed Epstein's company and he was arrested for rape and for sexual assault and hanged himself after Epstein's death.
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My.
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The two were business partners.
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Yeah, they were business partners and close associates. Well, not only that, but he, Brunel recruit was one of his top recruiters. And I'm not talking models, I'm talking about girls and young women for sex. I mean, that's what he did because they would make these promises to these women when they met them. We're going to get you into the modeling business. You're going to make lots and lots of money. I have a very wealthy person. He knows all, he has all the contacts, etc. And that's how they kind of, they all. He also, Epstein also had a lawyer working for him that the bookkeeper told us about this or told, you know, Brad Edwards about this is that they had a, they had lawyers that were helping the women from overseas get visas so that they here for those reasons.
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So it was very common at the time of H H, what is it? HP1 or H1B visas. Trump's modeling agency depended upon those visas to bring over models, mostly from Eastern Europe, for his age. Yeah. So it's, it's interesting given his current views on immigration, to say the least. So. But you're, you are on the case here. You're exposing this as this is going on, bringing it up all again. Reporting.
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Right. Yeah. Even after Epstein's death, I continue to report the trail of people that helped him, including members of the government of the US Virgin Islands. He employed the governor's wife there. He tossed around a lot of money to a lot of people. Remember, he was a convicted sex predator. So he was supposed to be modeled by the, he was supposed to be monitored by the US Marshals Service, and he just wasn't monitored at all.
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This is all around the island, Little St. James that he was doing. Is that where we were all got connected? Yeah.
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Right, right. And, you know, it's the perfect. It's a remote island. You can only get there by boat or plane. So it's the perfect locale for him to have some of these sex parties, so to speak, or, you know, to, to, to entertain his clients. And offer them food, wine and and a young girl if they wanted it.
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Now here is what Julie Brown told us about Ghislaine Macro Maxwell, who Donald Trump helped move to the minimum security facility in Camp Bryan after Trump's own criminal defense attorney, Todd Blanche interviewed Ghislaine in Tallahassee, where she should be rotting in a Tallahassee prison for being convicted of child sex trafficking. And Julie K. Brown in this portion of this interview also talks about Maria Farmer. And now you'll recall that Martin, Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer were our survivors. Their sisters and Maria Farmers report to The FBI from 1996 about Epstein was ignored by the FBI in 1996 and a lot of people were trying to say, oh, Maria Farmer's making this up. She never really reported this to the FBI. Well, also in the Epstein files that have been released so far was her report to the FBI from 1996. But first, here she is talking about Ghislaine and also Maria Farmer. You're not going to want to miss this. Here, play this clip.
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The survivors believe that she, in a way, was a bigger monster than Epstein because she was the one that made them feel safe. She was the one that brought them in. She used fraud by saying, he's going to hire you, you're going to travel, you're going to be a masseuse. She sort of acted like a motherly, nurturing type, you know, English lady with her English accent. And they took it like, wow, she's a really smart and kind lady. And that's what kind of snare got them in there. So in their mind, and by the way, you know, under the testimony that convicted her, some of these women were sexually molested by her. You know, so it wasn't even just that she brought them to Epstein. She was involved with some of the sex. She would groom them and tell them, this is what you do to pleasure him. You know, it would start out as a massage, but clearly then, you know, take off all your clothes and it would be a little further each time. So she was grooming them for sex and she participated in that.
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I wonder if you're in touch at all with Maria Farmer at all, and with who? Maria Farmer.
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I've never interviewed her. And one of the reasons for. I tried a couple of times, but initially, you know, she. She was suffering from cancer and she was going through chemotherapy, and it. She just wasn't healthy enough. And then I had an interview scheduled with her. I was going to fly to Arkansas, and that night, the night before I was scheduled to fly to interview her, Epstein was arrested. So I had to go to New York. So we never really were able to connect. So I've never interviewed her.
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Yeah, she is. I mean, I'm sure everyone will know that. And the connection to the relationship.
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Worked for Epstein. She was one of those women that got recruited and worked for. But in New York, she worked for him in New York, and she was an artist, or is an artist, I should say. And he was connected to a lot of important museum people and people in the art world and was, you know, telling her that he would help her with her paintings and get people to look at them and so she could sell them. In any event, she was, you know, she has accused Epstein and Maxwell of trying to have sex with her. She rejected them, but she was there during this period of time when they were recruiting other people. So she had information. She Saw some of this and she wanted to do an interview with Vicki Ward, who was writing.
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Yeah.
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Vanity Fair. And she told Vicki her story. She also, by the way, went to the. The New York Police Department to report what was going on. They referred her to the FBI. The FBI did talk to her way back in the, you know, 2000s, early 2000s, but they never did anything about it.
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So she encountered Trump, didn't she? I'm sorry, she encountered Donald Trump.
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That's what she just said recently. Yes. You know, Trump and Epstein were friends. You know, there's no, you know, I don't know how you can deny that. I mean, he was. He was. They were friends. Maybe they had a falling out later, but at one point, they were very close. They were friends. So, yeah, it wouldn't surprise me that she encountered him. She encountered other people, too. So, you know, in her, you have to understand, she feels that if the FBI had listened to her back then and had truly investigated what was going on, it's possible that all these hundreds of women wouldn't. It's been, you know, raped or molested or abused, you know, in her, in her mind. Now, as we now know, the portion about her talking about Epstein, it was a profile, by the way. Vicky Ward was doing a profile of Epstein, and the editor decided to take out the part about. About Maria, the allegation years ago.
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I remember this. It was Graydon Carter took that out, I think.
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Right.
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Right. So, but, you know, she was around Maxwell. You know, she was in that orbit where she could see what Epstein was doing. And by the way, he molested both Maxwell and Epstein, molested her sister, who was younger than her. He was a teenager. And, you know, tried to ingratiate themselves. You know, what they would do is they would buy things for these victims. They would tell. They would, you know, these victims were dazzled by Epstein. Swell. Because they had so much money. You know, you would go into his home in New York and there are pictures of him with Clinton and other world leaders. You know, he had tons of money. He had a big staff that was doing everything for him. So they were sort of in awe of him. And Maria and Annie in particular, wanted to go to college. And they came from, you know, a family that didn't have means. And he was promising them that he would put them through college, you know, put at least Annie through college.
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Now, Caitlin Collins writes, months ago, Annie Farmer reminded us, and Annie Farmer's a survivor of Epstein, to reminded us how her sister Maria filed a complaint with the FBI in 1996 and never heard back. She argued more girls were harmed that didn't need to because of FBI inaction. Farmer had told the FBI that episode. Epstein, who assaulted Maria, a figurative artist, and Ghislaine Maxwell had stolen photos of her younger sisters. Today's release confirms the complaint, and you can actually see that Maria Farmer indeed made that complaint right here. Here's a quote from Maria Farmer, the original whistleblower who reported Jeffrey Epstein to the FBI in 1996. As Thomas Volsco says, she's waited 30 years for this. This is a moment for which I have waited three decades, over half my life. When I was ignored and hung up on by the FBI in 1996, my world turned upside down and I felt frozen in time. I faced death threats, ridicule and mockery by some of the most powerful people on Earth. When my FBI reports are finally made available, I am hopeful that I will be able to pick up where I left off at age 2026. I am also hopeful that this will be an important step for many of these survivors and to hold the government accountable for their grotesque law enforcement failure, one of the largest in U.S. history. Brad Edwards, a lawyer who has represented many Epstein victims, told Mike Baker and others that the FBI could have prevented hundreds of victims from being abused if they had listened to Maria Farmer. Shameful, he says, calling for an investigation. Here is what Maria Farmer said about Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein during an interview she gave here. Play this clip.
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The time that is most memorable to me is the time when he hit on me because I was in the office. It was one of the first times I started working for Donald Trump's a sleaze bag. Okay? Yes, it was when I started working for Epstein and it was 9 o' clock at night and Jeffrey Epstein's office was totally empty. I told the New York Times this, but of course, they don't tell the whole thing, right? Even though Mike Baker is amazing, but they would not allow him to tell the truth. So, basically, I go into this office, it's 9:00' clock at night, and I sit down and a few minutes later, and I'm wearing running clothes, okay? So it was really weird. It's nine o' clock at night, and I'm wearing running clothes because I didn't have money. So I had to jog up there, right? And so I just struggled, you know, for so long. So I'm like up there in the office seated, and I've got my, you know, my running clothes on, so my legs are showing and in walks this man that when I called, when I reported him to the FBI, said that game show host Donald Trump, because I played with the game show host. Yeah, he's so cheesy, you know. But anyway, so I said, I mean, I said hello to, you know, he walks in and I just kind of acknowledged him, like a head nod or something. And he immediately starts. He's seated across, I mean, standing across the room for me. And I'm seating, seated and he's like, oh, Maria. I mean, no, he didn't. Sorry, I was just looking at something. He, he's standing across the room and he's looking at me and I'm like, oh, gross. You know, this guy's so gross. Anyway, he's just looking, glaring at my legs, like, yum. I felt, I told my sister, I felt like I was his dinner or his lunch, you know?
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The way he was looking at me. So Epstein comes in and. And by the way, I did not look good. I was like, not a pretty, I'm not exceptionally beautiful or anything like that. These are just gross people, you know what I mean?
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So just like a normal person who went on a run and I'm seated there, so he assumed I was there for him. And this is how I know. Epstein walks up to him and goes, no, no, she's not here for you. And they were smirking and Epstein whispered something. He goes, go in there and what? And so Trump at 9 o' clock at night, goes in the other room. There's someone in there for him.
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Right? Right.
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I don't know who, but Epstein said, no, no, no, she's not here for you.
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Now with all of this coming out with Donald Trump and his DOJ seemingly spying on this top reporter, it also explains Donald Trump's just freaking out over these files, huh? You know, in the past few days he posted the following. You know this by now. Now a million more pages on Epstein are found. DOJ is being forced to spend all of its time on this Democrat inspired hoax. When do they say no more and work on EPS and work on election fraud? The Dems are the ones who worked with Epstein, not the, not the Republicans. Release all their names, embarrass them and get back to helping our country. The radical left doesn't want people talking about Trump and Republican success. Only a long ago dead Jeffrey Epstein. Just another witch hunt. What a horrific thing he said there. Re traumatizing the survivors. Sickening, sickening, sickening. And now we learn about his spying. The spying that they were doing isn't it all projection Also right when Trump and the Republicans, like the Democrats were spying on Donald Trump about Russia, Russia, Russia. No they weren't. But you seem to have been spying on investigative reporters who are out there exposing a child sex trafficking ring. There are so many documents as well that have not been released. Memos on coconspirators, co conspirator update memos, corporate prosecution memos. Those haven't been released. We reported on the Midas Touch network and we broke the story about those 1.2 million missing records out of the Southern District of New York. There are other emails like this July 7, 2019 message and this was before Epstein allegedly died by suicide about these 10 co conspirators and whether contact was being made. Aid and potential prosecution against 10 co conspirators. Then there's this email July January 20th of 2008 prosecutor sending each other this for your situational awareness. Wanted to let you know that the flight records we received yesterday reflect that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously have been reported or that we were aware of, including during the period we would expect to charge charge in a Maxwell case. Wow. Wow wow. Hit subscribe Help us get to 6 million subscribers. And thank you so much for watching and listening to this report. And thanks to Julie K. Brown for her investigative journalism. And thank you to all of the survivors and their courage for coming forward and holding it together while all this is going on. Thanks for watching. Hey Midas Mighty, it's Ben Bretton Jordy and we just want to thank you for being the backbone of this movement.
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Date: December 29, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Network: MeidasTouch Network
This explosive episode centers on new revelations about Donald Trump’s Department of Justice (DOJ) and FBI allegedly spying on top investigative reporter Julie K. Brown during her reporting on Jeffrey Epstein. The Meiselas brothers break down what’s been released from the Epstein files, dissect the implications of government overreach on press freedom, and revisit chilling details from their own interviews with Brown and Epstein survivors. The episode also discusses the broader failures of law enforcement, the complicity of powerful figures, and the continuing fight for accountability.
The episode is a searing, detailed indictment of the failures of law enforcement and the dangers posed to investigative journalists by politically motivated surveillance. The Meiselas brothers amplify survivors’ stories, underscore the gross abuses of power, and highlight the urgent need for transparency and accountability in the Epstein case. They close in their trademark fashion, encouraging pro-democracy action and support for the survivors and the reporters who dare to expose the truth.
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