Trump Cornered by Epstein Scandal and MAGA Revolt...Karma Strikes!!!

Summary

The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Trump Cornered by Epstein Scandal and MAGA Revolt...Karma Strikes!!!"

Episode Release Date: July 13, 2025
Host: MeidasTouch Network (Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas)

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Overview

In this riveting episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, the Meiselas brothers delve deep into the swirling controversies surrounding former President Donald Trump, focusing on the Epstein scandal and the tumultuous state of the MAGA movement. Through incisive analysis, lively brotherly banter, and a blend of comedy and serious discourse, the hosts explore how recent events are reshaping political landscapes and public perceptions.

Key Discussions

1. Donald Trump's Response to the Epstein Scandal

The episode kicks off with a detailed examination of Donald Trump's latest statements regarding the Epstein files. The hosts highlight Trump's vehement denial of the existence of the Epstein list, attributing its creation to previous administrations and labeling it a hoax. They underscore the growing discontent among Trump's core supporters as key figures within the MAGA movement begin to distance themselves.

• Notable Quote:
  "Donald Trump...his entire term right now is going down in flames...rotting on the inside, rotting on the outside."
  [00:55] Political Commentator

2. The Fallout Within the MAGA Movement

The podcast discusses the unprecedented backlash within the MAGA base, with supporters publicly burning their hats in protest. This internal revolt signifies a pivotal shift, as even staunch supporters express frustration over the handling of the Epstein files.

• Notable Quote:
  "MAGA is up in flames tonight and just think about how stupid he made his influencers look."
  [03:15] Political Commentator

3. Analysis of Lara Trump's Interview with Donald Trump

A significant portion of the episode analyzes an interview between Lara Trump and her father, where Donald Trump attempts to deflect tough questions about his administration's involvement with Epstein. The hosts critique the ineffectiveness of the interview, noting Lara Trump's attempts to steer the conversation towards accomplishments rather than the scandal.

• Notable Quotes:
  Lara Trump: "Some people have called you the bodyguard of Western civilization. How do you feel about that title?"
  Donald Trump: "Well, I understand what they mean. It was going bad, we were going bad."
  [04:28 - 06:13]

4. Economic Ramifications: California and Nevada's Struggles

Shifting focus, the brothers discuss the economic downturn in Nevada, attributing it to declining tourism and the impacts of Trump's policies. They highlight rising unemployment rates and predict a looming recession, exacerbated by international discontent with America's economic strategies.

• Notable Quote:
  "Middle class Americans can no longer afford a Vegas vacation anymore."
  [07:30] Political Commentator

5. International Relations: U.S. Weakness and Global Alliances

The episode touches on the shifting alliances as countries like Canada pivot towards closer ties with Europe in response to perceived American economic and political weaknesses. This realignment underscores the global ramifications of domestic instability.

• Notable Quote:
  "While the US is becoming weaker, we will become stronger and we will diversify and turn ourselves towards Europe."
  [10:43] Melanie Jolie

6. Inside the Trump-Epstein Relationship: Insights from Michael Wolff

Bringing in expert opinions, the podcast features excerpts from Michael Wolff, Trump's biographer, who recounts his experiences and observations of Trump's interactions with Epstein. Wolff provides unsettling details about Trump and Epstein's private activities, reinforcing the gravity of the scandal.

• Notable Quotes:
  "There were at least three...photos of Trump and Epstein with naked girls on their laps."
  [12:37] Michael Wolff

7. Congressional Actions and Public Demand for Transparency

The conversation highlights Congressman Rose O'Connor's efforts to compel the release of the Epstein files, reflecting growing legislative interest in addressing the scandal. This move signifies a broader demand for accountability and transparency within the government.

• Notable Quote:
  "Why are the Epstein files still hidden? Who are the rich and powerful being protected?"
  [15:22] Political Commentator

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "MAGA is up in flames tonight and just think about how stupid he made his influencers look." — Political Commentator [03:15]
• "Middle class Americans can no longer afford a Vegas vacation anymore." — Political Commentator [07:30]
• "While the US is becoming weaker, we will become stronger and we will diversify and turn ourselves towards Europe." — Melanie Jolie [10:43]
• "There were at least three...photos of Trump and Epstein with naked girls on their laps." — Michael Wolff [12:37]
• "Why are the Epstein files still hidden? Who are the rich and powerful being protected?" — Political Commentator [15:22]

Insights and Conclusions

The episode paints a grim picture of the current state of the MAGA movement and Donald Trump's political influence, suggesting that the Epstein scandal is a critical turning point. Internal fractures within Trump's base, combined with economic downturns and shifting international alliances, indicate a potential realignment in American politics. The hosts emphasize the importance of transparency and accountability, urging listeners to stay informed and engaged in the unfolding political drama.

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Transcript

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[Political Commentator]

This is what he looks like now. He's rotting on the inside. He's rotting on the outside. It is rotten at the White House with the biggest cover up yet. You all saw Donald Trump's deranged post yesterday regarding the Epstein list which he says didn't exist. But then he said actually Obama, Clinton, James Comey and Democrats created the Epstein list and created the files and it's a hoax and it's fake. So therefore he's not releasing it. Move on, there's nothing to see. And he's very happy with the way Attorney General Pam Bondi and his FBI director Cash Patel have completely covered up the Epstein list and the Epstein files. Oh, his people are. By the way, Epstein files, Epstein list are the most searched item on Google right now. You have the Trump supporters, his most loyal supporters, they're all burning their MAGA hats, Some are torching their MAGA hats hats, some are burning their MAGA hats and giving the burnt MAGA hats the middle finger. This is happening en masse right now. Ras Moose. And one of Donald Trump's top pollsters have said they've never seen anything like this before. They said anybody important in the MAGA movement right now is absolutely livid. And, and you have Elon Musk who previously said Trump was on the Epstein list and that's why Donald Trump was covering this all up. Well, he's sticking in the dagger and he is turn wanted it. He goes, seriously? Trump said Epstein half a dozen times while telling everyone to stop talking about Epstein, just release the files as promised. MAGA is up in flames tonight and just think about how stupid he made his influencers look. All those right wing MAGA influencers who back in February went to the White House, they held up those binders that said the Epstein files phase one and Pam Bondi Donald Trump's Attorney general did a media tour and she's like, the Epstein files are on my desk. We are getting ready to release them. And you know, I've been like, there's no way they're releasing the Epstein files. Trump's gonna be all over him. He's all over the files that have been released already. I mean, about 10% of all of the Epstein files are already out there based on the civil and criminal cases where judges have allowed some of the documents to get out there. Trump's in the deposition, Trump's on the call, Trump's on the flight log. Right. Trump is all over this stuff. Epstein used Mar A Lago to recruit the girls that he sex trafficked. Virginia Giuffre, who recently died by suicide. She was 17 years old, homeless, got a job at Mar A Lago. Ghislaine Maxwell, who trafficked for Epstein, would go to Mar A Lago, find the girls, find Giuffre, brought her to Epstein. Epstein trafficked her. That's what's going on. All right, so how is Donald Trump responding to, to the fact that his entire term right now is going down in flames? Well, he's gotta run to state regime media, Fox. But the only host on state regime media who even wanted to be near him. Do you know who it was? Lara Trump. No one else wanted anything to do with him last night. So Lara Trump does the interview with him and she asks hardball questions. I'm just joking. She asks, some say you're the bodyguard of Western civilization. How would you respond? Here, play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

Especially this last couple of weeks has been pretty amazing.

[Lara Trump]

Some people have called you the bodyguard of Western civilization.

[Donald Trump]

Yeah.

[Lara Trump]

How do you feel about that title?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I understand what they mean. It was going bad, we were going bad.

[Political Commentator]

This is their plan. This is their way of trying to deal with the, the. The biggest scandal Trump's been hit with yet. Lara Trump then asks her father in law, how do you have the ability to make such a good cabinet? Here, watch this.

[Lara Trump]

Your cabinet is comprised of so many incredible people and people that even a year ago, so many would never have imagined. Like RFK Jr. Who a year ago was running for president as a Democrat. Why do you think you have this ability? And I feel like it has really been been to your benefit. Look at this incredible cabinet you've put together. They're all people who are working to make America great again.

[Donald Trump]

They've been incredible, actually, the cabinet's been incredible.

[Political Commentator]

And by the way, one of the funny things in this Interview is Lara Trump. Looks like she's like a giant compared to Donald Trump where he's sitting. Let's take a look at that photo. Anyway, then Lara Trump says, how do you wanna be remembered? This is their way of trying to get their viewers to be distracted. But even the Fox cult, they're not being brainwashed by this anymore. They're going release the Epstein files. Here, here's what she says here, play this clip.

[Lara Trump]

Just to wrap up here. You're talking about people not remembering. I don't think anyone will ever forget President Donald J. Trump. But when history looks back on this time in our country, when history looks back on you, how would you like to be remembered?

[Donald Trump]

A good person, but a person that saved our country. I really believed our country was going down for the fall.

[Political Commentator]

By the way, yesterday. J.D. vance vacationing in California. J.D. vance has basically spent the entire summer vacationing in California. He was previously in San Diego. Now he is in Anaheim at Disneyland for a vacation. So while the Trump regime attacks, California sends ICE to try to destroy Los Angeles and Santa Barbara county and Riverside county and Tulare county and Ventura county and Fresno County. J.D. vance just, you know, I'm in Disneyland with my family. To which Governor Newsom writes, JD Vance on Tom Sawyer island and looking for the next alligator, Alcatraz. Too many happy families for him in one place. Governor Newsom says, hope you enjoy your family time. JD Vance the families you're tearing apart certainly won't. And then Governor Newsom was thanked by Governor Greg Abbott of Texas because California provided canine teams to Texas to help locate bod. And Greg Abbott goes, thanks to California governor for sending canine teams to Texas. The quick response from many states was crucial in our rescue and recovery. Governor Newsom goes, california is proud to help Texas in this moment of crisis, tragedy tests us. How we come together to help communities recover defines us, right? So while Newsom is sounding presidential and talking like that, remember what Donald Trump said at the press conference he held on Friday. I'm not even going to show you the clip where he goes, it's evil for you to ask why the response was so slow. It's evil for you to ask why the federal government shut down its call center and fired all of the people on July 5th who would answer the emergency calls. Remember what Trump said? It would be evil for you to ask why it was that it took 72 hours for Kristi Noem to activate the urban search and rescue teams. It would be evil for you to ask. The losers are the only persons who Try to blame people. That's, that's actually what Governor Abbott and MAGA Republican Congress member Chip Roy said. And yep, we are learning that on July 7, 85% of calls to FEMA went unanswered because they fired all of the workers, basically. Oh, yeah, and by the way, from the National Weather Service, six critical vacancies there as well, including the lead meteorologist coordinator got pushed out by Doge. But what else would you expect from this regime? But here's what Donald Trump said about the water was so high, you could, like, surf it. What the hell is he talking about here? Play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

There's one story that one person said, it had to be 60ft at one moment. This is like a giant, giant wave in the Pacific Ocean that the best surfers in the world would be afraid to surf.

[Political Commentator]

You could surf it. That's that, that's the way you're dealing with families right here. What in the world are you talking about? Okay, show you some other data points here as well. As I've said before, the tourism boycott taking place right now against the United States, I told you. Is going to have a crippling effect on the American economy. It's already devastating many states like Nevada. As Jake Breaux goes, it only took Trump seven months, but he has destroyed the Las Vegas economy. International tourism is dead because everyone in the world now hates America because of Trump's tariffs and tax increases. Middle class Americans can no longer afford a Vegas vacation anymore. Also, Canadians and people from across the world would go to Vegas. Everything here is rapidly getting worse with layoffs. The city is about to crater hard over the next year. Nevada unemployment is the highest in the country right now at 5.5% of labor force out of work. Basically a massive recession in Nevada right now. We predicted it. I mean, tourism from Canada alone is down around 40%. And a lot of Canadians right now would be going to Vegas in other places, by the way, that's going to affect a lot of other places as well. Speaking of Canada, Melanie Jolie, they're the former foreign minister. She's now their economic minister, an industrial economic minister. Here's Melanie Jolie at an important meeting yesterday or two days ago with her counterpart in the European Union. And she goes, we're turning to Europe as America is getting weaker. Here, play this clip.

[Melanie Jolie]

What I wanted to emphasize today is as minister in charge of industries and of the economy is we are not alone in this world. We need to be closer to our allies. And that is why today is so important. It's been only 15 days that the prime minister signed an agreement with the EU to make sure that not only, of course, that we have free trade agreement, but that we are very closely aligned on defense and on all our industrial policies. And that's why Stefan and I today are together, because we're in solution mode and we're trying to make sure that ultimately, while the US Is becoming weaker, we will become stronger and we will diversify and turn ourselves towards Europe.

[Political Commentator]

All right. While we're here together, I'll give you some more data points. We had Michael Wolf, Donald Trump's biographer, and someone who was going to be doing Jeff, potentially doing Jeffrey Epstein's biographer. We had him on the Midas Touch network yesterday. Here's what Michael Wolf had to say here. Let's play this clip.

[Michael Wolff]

Once when I was, this was in Mar? A Lago, I went to sit, have a sit down with him. And in his aides just asked me, you know, a rough outline of what I wanted to talk about. And I had a lot of subjects. But I said, I also said Epstein. And they said, and they said, you know, if, if you ask about that, he'll just stop the interview and you won't get anything. So this person said, I recommend you can ask about anything, but I really recommend you not ask that if you, if you hope for this interview to go on.

[Political Commentator]

Now here's Michael Wolff in another interview talking about the photos that he saw of Trump and Epstein with naked girls on their laps. Here, play this clip.

[Michael Wolff]

And I've said before that Epstein used to bring out this set of pictures. There were about a dozen snapshots, and among them there are at least three that I remember, two of topless girls sitting in Trump's lap around Epstein's swimming pool, and then one with a stain on the front of Trump's pants with three or four girls laughing and pointing at it. So I have seen those pictures.

[Melanie Jolie]

So what's your best guess as to where they are?

[Michael Wolff]

Well, my best guess is that Epstein kept them in the safe. The safe was emptied out by the FBI. Where are those pictures?

[Political Commentator]

And finally, I want you all to remember this clip right here. This is from 2020, when Donald Trump was interviewed by Axios on HBO. And, and he was asked, why did you wish Ghislaine Maxwell? They were very close friends together. I mean, Ghislaine and Jeffrey lived, Epstein lived like two blocks away from Trump's Mar? A Lago. And that's why Trump said Epstein's a great guy. On the younger side, they hung out together. Trump, they were involved in all of this together. It's pretty clear from all of the stuff that was released, they did this stuff together. So Trump was asked, why did you wish Ghislaine Maxwell well? Why'd you say you hope she's doing well in her sex trafficking trial? She's a sex trafficker, so why would you say nice things about her? Here's how Trump responded to that in 2020. Let's play.

[Reporter]

Mr. President, the other day a reporter asked you about Ghislaine Maxwell. You said, quote, I just wish her well. Frankly, I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm beach, but I wish her well, whatever it is. Mr. President, Ghislaine Maxwell has been arrested on allegations of child sex trafficking. Why would you wish such a person well?

[Donald Trump]

I don't know that, but I do know that she has.

[Reporter]

She's been arrested for that.

[Donald Trump]

Her friend or boyfriend, Epstein was either killed or committed suicide in jail. She's now in jail. Uh huh.

[Political Commentator]

Yeah.

[Donald Trump]

I wish you well. I'd wish you well. I'd wish a lot of people well. Good luck. Let them prove somebody was guilty. I mean, you do know that.

[Reporter]

Oh, so you're saying you hope she doesn't die in jail? Is that what you mean by wish her well?

[Donald Trump]

Her boyfriend died in jail and people are still trying to figure out how did it happen? Was it suicide? Was he killed? And I do wish you well. I'm not looking for anything bad for her. I'm not looking bad for anybody. And they took that.

[Reporter]

I mean, she's a child sex trafficker.

[Donald Trump]

Big deal. But all it is is her boyfriend died. He died in jail. Was he killed? Was it suicide? I do. I wish her well.

[Political Commentator]

I should also note as well right now that Congressmember Rose o' Connor posted the following. Why are the Epstein files still hidden? Who are the rich and powerful being protected? On Tuesday, I'm introducing an amendment to force a vote demanding the full Epstein files be released to the public. The speaker must call a vote and put every Congress member on record. Senator Brian Schatz says this is very likely exactly what it looks like it is. We hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers, folks. A sickly rotting Trump. Rotting on the inside, rotting on the outside. Rotten, rotten, rotten to the core. New Midas merch drop. Check out the latest pro democracy sticker packs. T shirts, hats, sweatshirts and more [e-mail].

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