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Donald Trump (clips)
So in your conversation with President Putin, did you discuss what responsibility Russia will Have for any kind of reconstruction of Ukraine post agreement. I did. They're going to be helping. Russia is going to be helping. Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed once. It sounds a little strange, but I was explaining to the president, President Putin was very generous in his feeling toward Ukraine succeeding, including supplying energy, electricity and other things at very low prices. So a lot of, a lot of good things came out of that call today. But they were in the works for two weeks with.
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Let me just show that to you from another angle right here. Zelensky's reaction to Donald Trump saying Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed. Really? After invading and engaging in a genocide. Sure, Donald. I mean, do you realize how stupid you sound? I mean, do you realize how pathetic and weak you sound? It's ridiculous. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump (clips)
Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed once. It sounds a little strange, but I was explaining to the president, President Putin.
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Now take a look right here at Zelinsky's expression when Donald Trump claims that Russia would never have invaded Ukraine if the 2020 election wasn't rigged. And just think about all of the lies and disinformation Donald Trump packs into the statement. Here he is, we're about to be in 2026, he's whining about the 2020 election and lying. Then he says it was a rigged election. No, Donald, you lost. And you lost because the way you, because you said, like a miracle, it was all gonna go away and all the other disasters you brought upon the country during your first reign of terror and atrocities. And watch Zelensky's face here. And he's like, what are you talking about? And by the way, the stats show right now that Putin has escalated his attacks on Ukraine and civilian ballistic missile strikes and shy drone strikes since Trump's taken office by multiples. Here, watch Zelensky's face. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump (clips)
If the election weren't rigged and stolen 2020, you wouldn't have had this war. It would have never happened. And it didn't happen for four years. Never was even thought to happen. And I spoke with President Putin, I got along with him very well, despite the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, which was a total hoax.
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So naturally, a reporter asks Donald Trump, so the whole point of these discussions, right, is will there be a ceasefire? So Ukraine has agreed that, that they'll actually be open to holding a referendum on potentially giving up territories in eastern Ukraine. But it's gotta be a vote. But there needs to be a 60 to 90 day ceasefire. And let's be clear, Ukraine has always, always agreed to A ceasefire. And Russia's been the party that has not agreed to a ceasefire. And what Russia's out there saying, what, Yuri, you should cop. What, Carol Dimitri. Of what, Lavrov, what Putin, what they're all out there spewing is that a ceasef actually causes war because war is Peace in 1984. And that's the dystopian world that Trump and Russia inhabit. And that's what Russia is saying. We can't do a cease fire because ceasefires cause war. And Donald Trump regurgitates that mouth vomit and spews it from his grotesque opening that sits on his orange blob of a face. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump (clips)
Did Russia agree or did Putin agree to a cease fire? To allow a referendum to take. Not a cease fire. And that's one of the points that we're working on right now. No, not a ceasefire. He feels that, look, you know, they're fighting and to stop and then if they have to start again, which is a possibility, he doesn't want to be in that position. I understand that position. The President feels strongly about that or something. But I think we're finding ways that we can get around that. But I understand President Putin from that standpoint. You know, you have to understand the other side. And, you know, I'm on the side of peace, I'm on the side of stopping the war. So. But I think that's, that's a problem that's going to get solved. Yeah.
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Then Donald Trump talks about how he spoke with Putin for two and a half hours. Actually, Donald Trump spoke with Putin twice yesterday, once before meeting with Zelinsky and once after to coordinate the Russian position. And let's be clear, the United States is no ally of Ukraine, is no ally of Europe. The U. S under the Trump regime is an ally, perhaps even a satellite nation of Putin doing Putin's bidding. You have Europe, the coalition of the willing with Australia, Japan, Canada and some other countries fighting for Ukraine, UK While Trump is on Putin's side. And, and that's very clear. Here's Trump talking about two and a half hours that he spoke with Putin. He did it twice. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump (clips)
Snow. Look, I was on the phone with him for almost, I guess, two and a half hours. They're just telling me now it's a long time. We discussed a lot of things. We didn't talk about the weather. We weren't talking about how what a beautiful day it is in Palm Beach, Florida.
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So then here is another part of that disastrous press conference where Donald Trump threatens Ukraine with more Russian propaganda. And Donald Trump says, you know, some of the land has already been been taken. Land is up for grabs, but it may be taken over the next period of months and you're better off making a deal. Now, this is Putin's talking points right here where Putin lies to his population and says that he's taking over Coupian and other areas which he has not taken over. And in fact, for Putin to get the areas of eastern Ukraine which he wants Ukraine to just turn over, it would cause over 1 million lives and 5, 6, 7, maybe even more years to be able to achieve that after more than a million to 2 million deaths of Russian soldiers and lots of people, the Institute of War and others believe that Russia wouldn't be able to take that land. That's why he wants it handed over. Putin does, to then launch more invasions against Keith. Listen to what Putin is saying. Listen to what Lavrov are saying. Listen to what you should call and Dimitri of. And all the Russians are saying. They're saying they want to wipe Ukraine off the map. They're saying Ukraine is a fake country. They're saying that they need their special operation to fully succeed. That's what they call it. And Ukraine needs to be exterminated. There's no even inkling that they want a peace deal. Just listen to their words. But anyway, here's Trump threatening Zelensky. Play this clip.
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Some of that land has been taken. Some of that land is maybe up for grabs, but it may be taken over the next period of a number of months. And are you better off making a deal? Now, look, let me.
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And then Donald Trump's like, and, you know, me and Putin, we've been through a lot together. We've been through Russia, Russia, Russia hoax together. And he'd call me and I'd say, can you believe they're making stuff up? So he would call you privately in calls that you never discuss publicly, and you would commiserate over Russia, Russia, Russia. You do realize what you're describing is colluding with Russia, that that is Russia, Russia, Russia. You do realize, like you do realize, we saw you at Helsinki. We do realize during the campaign, we saw you say Russia. If you're listening and you're admitting here that you're doing Russia, Russia, Russia while you're denying. Yeah, me and Putin, we talk about Russia, Russia, Russia all the time. This is what Donald Trump says here. Play this clip.
Donald Trump (clips)
President Putin today. I mean, he. He wants to see it happen. He wants to see it. He told me Very strongly I believe him. Don't forget, we went through the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax together. And he'd call me, I'd call him, I'd say, can you believe the stuff that they're making up? And it turned out we were right. They made it all up. And despite that, we didn't get into wars and we didn't get into problems, but we weren't able to trade very much or any of that, which was a shame because, you know, a lot of success could have been had by trading with Russia. They have great land, great minerals and other things and we have things that they want very badly. But the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, which was a terrible, made up fictional thing by crooked Hillary and by Adam Schiff, D. Schiff and bad people, sick people, they made it up. It was all a made up hoax. But it kept us really from dealing with Russia, kept Russia dealing, you know, from dealing with us. So, but, but despite that, we got along. And I don't know, I think we're going to get there. I know, I know him very well. I think we're going to get there.
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I'll pull out the receipts. This was Trump nine years ago. More maybe nine years ago or more at Helsinki. Remember what Trump said, that he trusts Putin over the United States intelligence agencies. Play this clip.
Donald Trump (clips)
I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. And what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators. With respect to the 12 people, I think that's an incredible offer. Okay, thank you.
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Or how about during the campaign where Donald Trump said, Russia, if you're listening, if you're listening, Russia here, play this clip right here.
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Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.
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Next, Donald Trump is asked, what's your message to the family members of the more than 100Americans who died on the Ukrainian battlefield? Trump can't even say thank you for your service. Here's what he says. Because it's just a shame to die in foreign countries. Here, play this clip. In your conversation with, you were saying that you've said multiple times that you want to stop the killing and nearly a hundred American citizens died in Ukraine on the battlefield. What's your message to their family whose loved ones died fighting?
Donald Trump (clips)
Well, look, I mean, the message is so obvious. It's what a shame they died in a country, a foreign country. And some are celebrated people. They're very celebrated, but so sad. That a thing like that would happen? Yes, ma'. Am.
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Issue for the as you know, earlier today, Donald Trump posted the message I just had a good and very productive phone call with President Putin of Russia prior to my meeting with Zelinsky of Ukraine. The meeting will take place in the main dining room of Mar? A Lago, Kiev. Independent reporter Ilya Pomerenko writes, Isn't this beautiful? This is the Rahis being sarcastic. A ceasefire is a way to war, war is a way to peace. Orwell is just mass producing electricity in his grave right now. Here's the statement from Ushakov Kremlin foreign policy aid Ushakov Putin and Trump think the temporary ceasefire proposed by the EU and Ukraine will lead to a prolongation of the conflict. Take a look right here. Michael Weiss did some great reporting on this. This is the Kremlin readout of Trump's call with Putin. This is what they're saying happened in Russia. Putin held a telephone conversation with Trump. Here are the key points from Ushakov Statement the Russian president agreed with Trump's proposal to continue to work on the settlement within the framework of specially created working groups. The parameters of the working groups on Ukraine will be announced in early January. The American leader stated the need to end the war as quickly as possible. Putin and Trump hold broadly similar views that a temporary cease fire will only prolong the conflict in Ukraine. So Russia is saying that Trump told Putin that a temporary cease fire will prolong the conflict in Ukraine. Trump called Putin to discuss the Ukrainian settlement before meeting Zelensky in Russia. They're also saying Trump initiated the call, not Putin calling Trump. The parties agreed to talk again by phone about the results of the meeting between Trump and Zelinsky. So Trump's the one who's calling Putin, according to Russia. And Trump's never rebutted that it makes sense for Keev to make decisions on Donbass without delay, taking into account the developing situation on the front lines. This is more Russian propaganda. What Russia is saying that they told Trump and this is what Trump was regurgitating, is that Ukraine needs to give up all of Donbass because Russia is lying and saying that they're making rapid advancements, advances on the front lines, which is not true. Trump admitted that the Ukrainian conflict was the most difficult one for him. The US President listened carefully to Russia's assessment of the prospects of reaching an agreement. The conversation with Putin was organized at Trump's initiative to finally end hostilities. A responsible decision is required from Kiev In a conversation with Trump, the Russian leader stated the importance of continuing to focus on the understandings. Reached an anchorage. Right. So what else was going on in those conversations about forcing Ukraine to surrender? Trump spoke of impressive prospects of US Economic cooperation with Russia if the conflict in Ukraine ends. The parties exchanged New Year's greetings and wished happiness to the people of the Russian Federation and the United States. Do you. Have you heard of anything more weaker and pathetic than that? And let me just contrast Donald Trump's discussions with Zelinsky compared to Prime Minister Carney's discussions with Zelinsky. Trump's Linsky. I showed you. Here's Carney and Zelinsky. Let's play this clip right here.
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Thank you for taking this time at a crucial moment in this process. Under President Zelenskyy's leadership. We have the conditions, the possibility of a just and lasting peace. But that requires a willing Russia and the barbarism that we saw overnight, the attack on Kyiv shows just how important it is that we stand with Ukraine during this difficult time and that we create the conditions for this just and lasting peace in a true reconstruction. And I want to underscore something that has happened in recent weeks is that the development of that possibility under your leadership and also the prospect of, of true prosperity for the Ukrainian people. I'll just finish with one point on Canada. We've provided military assistance, further military assistance. We're announcing today further economic assistance for Ukraine, $2.5 billion worth of economic assistance that helps unlock financing from the imf, from the World bank, from the European bank for Reconstruction and Development to begin this process of rebuilding. We have an important bilateral meeting and then a meeting virtually with our colleagues from the Coalition of the Willingness.
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Date: December 29, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
This episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast dives into the disastrous press conference held by former President Donald Trump with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. The Meiselas brothers analyze Trump’s performance, his pro-Putin rhetoric, and the broader implications for US foreign policy, Ukrainian sovereignty, and democracy. The episode is laced with the brothers’ trademark humor and sharp commentary, highlighting the absurdity and danger of Trump’s statements and actions.
Putin Wants Ukraine to “Succeed” (05:02–06:10): Trump claims, “[President] Putin was very generous in his feeling toward Ukraine succeeding, including supplying energy, electricity and other things at very low prices.”
The brothers dismantle this statement, pointing out the irony of Russia claiming to support Ukraine while actively waging war and committing atrocities.
Blaming the 2020 Election for the War (07:09): Trump asserts, “If the election weren’t rigged and stolen 2020, you wouldn’t have had this war.”
Hosts emphasize the factual inaccuracy and self-absorption of Trump's answer, noting that Putin’s aggression escalated after Trump’s departure, not before.
Ceasefire Nonsense (08:39): Trump repeats Russian lines about ceasefires “causing war,” drawing a dystopian parallel to 1984.
Quote: “...cease fires cause war, because war is peace in 1984. And that's the dystopian world that Trump and Russia inhabit.” (07:45)
Threatening Ukraine with Further Land Loss (11:59): Trump suggests Ukraine should negotiate now because, “Some of that land is maybe up for grabs, but it may be taken over the next period of a number of months.”
Hours on the Phone (10:11): Trump brags, “I was on the phone with [Putin] for almost, I guess, two and a half hours… We discussed a lot of things.”
The brothers point out the damning implications of Trump coordinating with Putin before and after Ukraine meetings.
“Russia, Russia, Russia” and Helsinki Flashbacks (13:01–14:41):
On Zelensky’s Reaction (06:10):
On Trump’s Pro-Putin Talking Points (09:24):
On Trump’s Nostalgic Collusion (13:25):
Helsinki Flashback (14:22):
On War Casualties (15:30):
On Russian Ceasefire Logic (16:00):
This episode is a scathing, often satirical examination of Trump’s post-presidential foreign policy moves and pro-Putin rhetoric. The Meiselas brothers highlight the danger Trump poses to allies, democracy, and Ukraine, effectively using Trump’s own words and official Russian statements to show his alignment with Kremlin interests. The contrasting example of Canada’s support for Ukraine underscores what principled, pro-democracy leadership looks like by comparison.
The episode will be especially rewarding for listeners who want detailed, critical insight into Trump’s press conference, the implications of his foreign policy positions, and how they are received both at home and abroad.
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