Trump Crashes Out in Oval as Walls Close in

Summary

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The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: Trump Crashes Out in Oval as Walls Close in

Date: May 6, 2026
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on Donald Trump's recent conduct during a White House event with children present, highlighting the hosts' deep concerns over what they view as disturbing, inappropriate, and divisive behavior. The Meiselas brothers break down a series of alarming moments from Trump's interaction with kids in the Oval Office, contrasting his actions with those of former President Obama. The discussion is filled with the brothers' trademark mix of humor, outrage, and unapologetic advocacy for democracy, as they argue for the importance of calling out harmful conduct “with moral clarity.”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Disturbing Oval Office Event with Children (02:42–13:00)

• Use of Children as Political Props (02:42):
  The hosts call out Trump for using children as props to announce the return of the Presidential Fitness Test, questioning the appropriateness of involving kids at all given his current legal controversies.

  • “These kids were used by Donald Trump as props to announce the fact that he's doing a presidential fitness test day once again.” (02:42, Commentator/Host)

• Mocking and Discouraging Kids’ Ambitions (03:54):
  Trump criticizes a little girl's height in connection with her love of volleyball and suggests she play soccer instead.

  • Trump: “Wow. And with your height, you smash the ball, the volleyball. Do you get up high? Can you jump high? Soccer might be better.” (04:01–04:17)

• Injecting Creepy and Divisive Rhetoric (04:17):
  Trump refers to Barack Obama as “Barack Hussein” and creepily asks the children if they know who he is, then blames him for discontinuing the fitness test.

  • Trump: “Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? We had the Obama administration, which phased out this wonderful tradition of physical fitness.” (04:34)

• Claiming Rigged Elections to Children (05:03):
  The hosts decry Trump informing children the 2020 election was “rigged,” further perpetuating conspiracy theories in front of young kids.

  • Trump: “It was a rigged election. … And we won in a landslide.” (05:03–05:14)

• Transphobic Remarks (05:14):
  Trump tells a boy aspiring to be a powerlifter: “You'll never compete against women,” and launches into a story about a transgender powerlifter, deploying transphobic talking points.

  • Trump: “You'll never compete against women in powerlifting. … He was a failed power lifter, but he … decided that he wanted to go into women's sports. And he broke the record by 118 pounds. I think that's fair. I don't think we have to worry about you.” (05:36–06:37)

• Aggressive Foreign Policy Language (06:37):
  Trump discusses making Iran "cry uncle" in front of children.

  • Trump: “They should wave the white flag of surrender. In hockey they say uncle, right? When are they gonna cry uncle?” (06:47)

• Making Odd Noises and Sticking Out His Tongue (07:15):
  The hosts mock Trump’s bizarre behavior, noting his lack of decorum.

• Tough Talk about “Killing People” Around Kids (07:26–08:55):
  Trump says he doesn't want to "go in and kill people" in the context of Iran, but “it’s too tough,” displaying a lack of appropriate censorship with children.

• Blatant Disinterest and Falling Asleep (08:05–12:02):
  Trump is caught nodding off as Linda McMahon and then RFK Jr. discuss physical health and fitness.

  • “Trump can't stand it, and he just starts falling asleep and closing his eyes.” (08:05, Commentator/Host)
  • “RFK Jr starts talking and then Donald Trump falls asleep. … Here, play this clip.” (11:50, Commentator/Host)

• Inappropriate Violent Narratives (09:07–10:21):
  Trump graphically describes snipers shooting unarmed protesters in Iran.

  • Trump: “When they start shooting them right between the eyes... I mean, I understand. I tell them not to. Don't Forget they killed 42,000 people last month.” (09:07)

• Self-Aggrandizement and Rants (10:21–11:35):
  Trump pivots to praising Gary Player and wishing for the failure of Iran’s financial system.

  • Trump: “Gary Player as an example. He won 168 tournaments over a very average career… Jack and Tiger and Gary. Greatest golfers. So thanks for being here.” (10:30)
  • Trump: “I hope [Iran's financial system] fails. You know why? Because I want to win.” (11:35)

2. Contrast with Obama’s Conduct Around Children (14:40–17:45)

• Obama’s Empathy and Healthy Interaction (15:23–17:15):
  The hosts play clips of Obama singing “Wheels on the Bus” with kids, highlighting his genuine empathy and appropriate demeanor.

  • Obama: “Can I ask, did Anybody think that, like, Madame was the best singer?” (16:12)

• Hosts Emphasize Return to Decorum:
  “You can see the actual love and empathy… This is a healthy interaction with children… We need to say, what are these interactions supposed to look like so we can get back to, like, being normal.” (16:42–17:15, Commentator/Host)

3. Review of Past Trump Interactions with Youth (17:45–21:13)

• Trump’s Inappropriate Commentary at High Schools (18:29):
  In a previous Iowa high school visit, Trump brought up salacious conspiracy theories and spoke explicitly about “golden showers” and being a “germaphobe.”

  • Trump: “You know, he's not into the golden showers, as they say… My wife knows I don't like getting urinated on by prostitutes.” (18:29)

• Boasting about Sexual Misconduct in Front of Young Republicans (20:06):
  Trump recounts telling students the “bravest thing” he did was call the infamous “Access Hollywood” tape “locker room talk.”

  • Trump: “But I believe the bravest thing I've ever seen was the night you went onto that stage … and I said, locker room talk. It's locker room talk.” (20:06)

4. Final Reflection from Obama on Trump’s Behavior (21:13–22:24)

• Obama on Public Decency and Social Norms:
  Obama offers a broad critique of Trump’s impact on standards of conduct, calling for Americans to reject the normalization of such behavior.
  • Obama: “The majority of the American people find this behavior deeply troubling… There doesn't seem to be any shame about this among people who used to feel like you had to have some sort of decorum and a sense of propriety and respect for the office. … Ultimately the answer is going to come from the American people.” (21:13)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “These kids were used by Donald Trump as props…” — Commentator/Host (02:42)
• Trump: “Soccer might be better. I’m just looking. I think she’d be a great soccer player.” (04:01)
• Trump: “It was a rigged election. And I said, well, I’ll do it again. … And we won in a landslide.” (05:03)
• Trump: “You’ll never compete against women in powerlifting.” (05:36)
• Trump: “I hope [Iran’s financial system] fails. You know why? Because I want to win.” (11:35)
• Obama: “The majority of the American people find this behavior deeply troubling…” (21:13)

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Timestamps for Reference

• [02:42] – Trump’s Oval Office event with children begins
• [03:54] – Mocking the girl’s ambitions and height
• [04:34] – “Barack Hussein Obama” remarks
• [05:03] – “Rigged election” narrative in front of kids
• [05:36] – Transphobic comments on powerlifting
• [06:47] – Discussion about “making Iran cry uncle”
• [07:26] – Inappropriate talk about killing people in Iran
• [08:05–12:02] – Trump’s visible disinterest; dozing off
• [09:07] – Graphic stories about shootings in Iran
• [10:30] – Gary Player anecdote
• [11:35] – “I hope [Iran’s financial system] fails”
• [12:02] – RFK Jr. commentary and Trump’s sleepiness
• [15:23–17:15] – Obama’s healthy interaction with children
• [18:29] – Trump’s “golden showers” comments at a high school
• [20:06] – Trump brags to youth about Access Hollywood aftermath
• [21:13] – Obama’s final reflections on decency

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Hosts’ Message and Tone

Throughout, the hosts express disbelief, anger, and at times, incredulity mixed with humor at what they regard as unmistakable red flags in Trump’s conduct. They advocate for speaking with “moral clarity” (21:13) and explicitly reject normalization of such behavior, urging media and listeners to hold public officials to a higher standard—especially when children are involved.

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Summary prepared by The MeidasTouch Podcast Summarizer.

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Donald Trump just scared a group of little kids in the Oval Office. Donald Trump's behavior moments ago was so deeply disturbing. With these little kids, we should not normalize it. It is so critical that we call it out. These kids were used by Donald Trump as props to announce the fact that he's doing a presidential fitness test day once again. And so he used these children as props. And then Donald Trump's interaction with these children was so disturbing. There are so many red flags here. And Frank even know why there are kids this age or kids at all in the Oval Office, given that Donald Trump right now is currently covering up a child sex trafficking ring. And this needs to be called out. I know corporate news isn't going to call it out, so we will call it out here on the Midas Touch Network strongly and with moral clarity. So here, Donald Trump mocks a little girl for being short. He crushes her ambitions of wanting to play volleyball and tells her, you'd probably be better, better off playing soccer. Here, play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

How about you? What sports? I play volleyball.

[Advertiser/Announcer]

And in the summer, I'm trying to get into soccer.

[Commentator/Host]

Wow.

[Narrator/Host]

Wow. And with your height, you smash the ball, the volleyball. Do you get up high? Can you jump high? Soccer might be better. I'm just looking. I think she'd be a great soccer player.

[Commentator/Host]

Then, in front of these little kids, Donald Trump starts calling former President Obama, Barack Hussein. And he turns to these kids in quite a creepy manner. Very creepy. And he's like, have you heard of Barack Hussein? You know, Hussein? Here, play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

Each other in the presidential fitness test, but others. And then we had the Obama administration. Wonderful, wonderful person. Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? We had the Obama administration, which phased out this wonderful tradition of physical fitness. Thank you, Barack, very much. Great job.

[Commentator/Host]

Then Donald Trump starts telling the kids that the election was rigged and that we have rigged elections in the United States. Let's play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

And unfortunately, bad things happened. It was a rigged election. And I said, well, I'll do it again. I had the ultimate poll. I did so well, and I had the ultimate poll, and we won in a landslide.

[Commentator/Host]

Then he speaks to a young boy who talks about how he wants to be a weightlifter. And then Donald Trump uses this opportunity to attack the transgender community and says, you'll never compete against women in powerlifting. You understand? You'll never compete against women. This is how you're behaving in front of little children. Here, play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

What about you? Look at this guy. He's a big guy. Me, I'm, I'm doing football right now. And next year I'm going to be trying to do powerlifting. Oh, wow, that's awesome. And you'll never compete against women in powerlifting. Did you see that? They had a man power lifter and he decided to go the opposite direction. Took a record, stood for 18 years. He beat it by 119 pounds. Okay, they put the little one. Little quarter of an ounce. Quarter of an ounce. For 18 years it stood. This guy came. He was a failed power lifter, but he went on the other side and he decided that he wanted to go into women's sports. And he broke the record by 118 pounds. I think that's fair. I don't think we have to worry about you. Yes, sir. You're going to do good. Are you a strong person? Yes, sir. But you think you can take me in a fight? That would be embarrassing, wouldn't it?

[Commentator/Host]

How about then, in front of these kids, Donald Trump says that he's going to make Iran cry uncle. You're gonna cry uncle, right? That's what they say. Here, play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

There they need. They should wave the white. The flag. The white flag of surrender. In hockey they say uncle, right? When are they gonna. When are they gonna cry uncle? But, but. And they have another expression. If this were a fight, they would stop it. But, but, you know, we have to go out and we have to do it. And it's, it's very sad. It's very sad to see. Even shooting the.

[Commentator/Host]

Then Donald Trump started making weird noises and then stuck his tongue out at the children.

[Narrator/Host]

Here, play this clip Was like, oh, I'm very smart.

[Commentator/Host]

Then again, surrounded by kids, Donald Trump says, we don't really want to go in and kill people. It's tough. You know, I have a lot of Iranian friends. I don't want to kill these people. Let's show you this clip right here.

[Narrator/Host]

They can't pay their soldiers. The money is worthless. No, it's. They should do the smart thing. You know, they should do the smart thing. And because we don't want to go in and kill people. Really. I don't want to. I don't want to. It's too tough. Great people. I know the people. I have so many Iranian friends from New York and from other places over the years. They're great people. I don't want to. I don't want to. Kill them. These gas prices in the United States.

[Commentator/Host]

Then you have Donald Trump falling asleep when Linda McMahon, who I do not like at all, would be an understatement. But Linda McMahon's at least, I think, trying to stick with the script here of saying you need to eat well and you need to exercise. Again, I disagree with everything in general that she says, and she's such a phony, but she's talking about eating well and exercising. Right. That's nothing to disagree with there. And Trump can't stand it, and he just starts falling asleep and closing his eyes. Let's play this clip to compete.

[Narrator/Host]

That's what you've said, Pete. All of us are saying the same thing, but let's not forget it's thought. Also a sound mind and a sound body. In order to have a sound mind, you do have to eat well, you do have to exercise, you do have to train, and you do have to be fit to do that. And if we all are, we are the best of who we can be. So I encourage.

[Commentator/Host]

Then Donald Trump says, all right, I got to go speak again. And then he starts talking about people being shot between the eyes and snipers murdering people. This is what he's talking about in front of the kids. Let's play it.

[Narrator/Host]

They don't have any guns. So you could have 200,000 people protesting and have five or six sick people with guns, and when they start shooting them right between the eyes and you see a guy fall and another one fall and you have no guns, very few people would be able to stand there and do it. I mean, I understand. I tell them not to. Don't Forget they killed 42,000 people last month. 42,000 unarmed protests. They had no guns. So they had a 250,000 people crowd. And they had snipers. They had like four or five snipers in buildings up high. And you're standing there, and all of a sudden the guy on your left goes down and somebody. That's what happened with a woman Protest. They had 200,000 women protesting a year ago, and everybody thought that was the end of Iran. And then all of a sudden, a woman dropped dead with a bullet right there. Always right there. Then another woman dropped. And then the word started to spread, and then there was panic, and then they ran and, you know, so I don't want that to happen. We don't need that. You know, we don't need it. But the only reason they're not, they want to protest so badly, but they don't have weapons.

[Commentator/Host]

Then he starts Ranting about Gary Player, the golfer who's there. And he just says, you know, he's one of the best. One of the best. Let's play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

Gary Player as an example. He won 168 tournaments over a very average career. You know that? Think of it. He won 168 tournaments, 18 majors, nine and nine, senior. He has more championships than anybody, national championships than anybody. And I played with him. He just, he's very proud of it, actually. Played with him on his 90th birthday. He very easily, on a tough course from 6,800 yards, he very easily shot a 70, and it was the easiest 70. And normally if you shoot a 70 and you're 90, you'd run around so excited. Gary's like, all right, let's have a little lunch. I think he's the most unexcited year to make that because he's been doing it all his life. He's been winning top three in history. My opinion, I don't think it's my opinion, just based on the record. Gary is top three of Jack and Tiger and Gary, greatest golfers. So thanks for being here.

[Commentator/Host]

He then says he wishes that Iran's financial system fails. Show you this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

I guess so, because we're making it fail. Is that what it takes? I hope it fails. You know why? Because I want to win if it. Well, no, it takes getting pounded on by the military, I think for more. But in addition to that, there then

[Commentator/Host]

RFK Jr starts talking and then Donald Trump falls asleep. There as RFK is talking about 70% of adults are obese. Here, play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

Adults are obese or overweight. And 77% of our children cannot qualify for military service. And that should be an eye opener for all of us. And I'm so grateful to President Trump for his leadership and his vision of reinstituting the physical fitness test and challenging Americans to compete with each other in a friendly, congenial way and to help each other get in shape so that we can prepare for a great future that this administration is going to provide for this country.

[Commentator/Host]

Then thereafter, Donald Trump goes outside and I'll just show you the B roll of it right here where it's a full blown cringe fest. And Donald Trump is then with these kids who are visiting the White House. These people look a little bit older, look like they're teenagers outside. They were little children in the Oval Office. And then he starts doing that weird, like he just starts dancing in front of them and he's like, dance with me. I want you all. Will you all dance with me? And he does his like creepy YMCA dance that he does and he makes them dance with him. I just want to also point out that before Donald Trump arrived to the White House. I'll just show you right here though, because there's so many things unwell with this individual at so many levels. He can't walk in a straight line. I just want to point this out. I mean, run the B roll of him leaving Marine One before he got to the White House. I just think it's an important thing to note before continuing. One quick PSA for the Midas Mighty when it comes to Medicare, most Medicare agents push Medicare Advantage plans even when they're not right for you because they make more money doing it. That's why we strongly recommend you do what thousands in our audience have already done. Speak with Chapter, please. They don't just share the amazing benefits of Medicare Advantage. They explain the pros and cons of all your Medicare options. Original Medicare, Medicare supplement, Medicare Advantage and Part D. Chapter supports you in comparing every plan against your specific health care needs because they want to ensure you have the best coverage for you. One chapter member, Jill, said her advisor presented options she didn't even see on the Medicare.gov website. And in many cases, Chapter saves people over $1,100 a year by getting them on the right plan. So if you're on Medicare or will be soon, dial 82 Medicare and get honest advice from Chapter. That's 82 Medicare. It's free and quick. They can review your options in under 20 minutes. If you're on the right plan already, they'll tell you if you're not, they could help you save thousands the way they have with thousands of members of the Midas Mighty. I showed you all of the conduct there of Donald Trump with these little kids. I could go on and on, but I think you get it. Can we just contrast that to when Obama and Mamdani were were with a group of little kids at an elementary school? Can we show you how adults are supposed to interact with kids? So here's Obama and Mamdani with the kids singing the Wheels on the Bus. Play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

Is that it?

[Commentator/Host]

Anything else?

[Narrator/Host]

Oh, the beep beep. That's one of the best.

[Commentator/Host]

They're not crushing the dreams of these little kids and saying that they shouldn't play the sports or talking about elections being rigged. Here's Obama saying who. Who thinks that Mamdami is a great singer. Here, play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

Can I ask, did Anybody think that,

[Barack Obama]

like, Madame was the best singer?

[Narrator/Host]

Another one.

[Commentator/Host]

And you can see the actual, like, love and empathy in the room as Obama and the children are joking and having fun. And the child's like, who's my name? What's your name? This is, this is a healthy interaction with children. I just, I think it's important because corporate news is never even going to cover what the heck just went down in the Oval Office with Donald Trump. Right. And I think we need to say, what are these interactions supposed to look like so we can get back to, like, being normal. Here, play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

I know you are,

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you know, I know who you are.

[Narrator/Host]

I know your name.

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Yeah, I know your name.

[Barack Obama]

What's his first name?

[Narrator/Host]

That's his name.

[Commentator/Host]

And just to remind you, I mean, Donald Trump's other visits, whether he's at high schools, like, what he. Like what this guy does that corporate news doesn't talk about. So when Donald Trump spoke at a high school in Iowa during the campaign, Donald Trump told. He's in a high school in Iowa. And part of Donald Trump's campaign is that he doesn't like getting urinated on by prostitutes. And he says, I'm not into golden showers. He brings it up on his own. He goes, I'm not into golden showers. I don't like it. And I'm a germaphobe. So my wife knows I don't like getting urinated on by prostitutes. This is what he says at a high school. Play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

He was with four hookers. You think that was good that night, to go up and tell my wife, it's not true, Darling, I love you very much. It's not true. Actually, that one she didn't believe because she said, he's a germaphobe. He's not into that. You know, he's not into the golden showers, as they say they call them. I don't like that idea. No, I didn't. I thought that would be a big problem. I was going to have a rough night. But that one she was very good on, she said.

[Commentator/Host]

And then when Donald Trump was speaking on. The campaign is just what we all see when I'm trying to bring up all of these red flags before and people are all Midas touch. You're being hyperbolic. Why do you know? Why do you not like this guy? Oh, what are you doing? Remember all of that, Remember all that discourse back then. Well, here was Donald Trump with the young Republicans, high school students into college, but young Republicans right in New York. And Trump's speech to the young Republicans is that the high school students, that the most courageous thing he did was say he grabs women by their vagina. He says, I grabbed them by their genitals. And when you're a star, you get away with it. And he said the most courageous thing he did is when he referred to that when it became public as locker room talk. And Trump said, all of the generals, this general, powerful general who saw and die in war, he went to me and he said, donald, when you called that locker room talk, I've never seen a man so courageous as you. This is the Donald Trump speech to children. Play this clip.

[Narrator/Host]

But I went onto that stage just a few days later, and a general who's a fantastic general actually said to me, sir, I've been on the battlefield. Men have gone down on my left and on my right. I stood on hills where soldiers were, were killed. But I believe the bravest thing I've ever seen was the night you went onto that stage with Hillary Clinton after what happened. And then that woman asked you the first question about it. And I said, locker room talk. It's locker room talk. What the hell? What are you talking. Locker room talk. That was not a great.

[Commentator/Host]

And I'll leave you with this former President Obama saying this is an interview he did with my buddy Brian Tyler Cohen. And I very much agree with what Obama says here, that I think the vast majority of Americans look at Trump's behavior and are disgusted with it. But it's important that we speak with moral clarity about it and we don't normalize this damn behavior. Here's what Obama said. Let's play it.

[Barack Obama]

The majority of the American people find this behavior deeply troubling. You know, it is true that it gets attention. It's true that it's a distraction. But, you know, as I'm traveling around the country, as you're traveling around the country, you meet people, they still believe in decency, courtesy, kindness. And there's this sort of clown show that's happening in social media and on television. And what is true is that there doesn't seem to be any shame about this among people who used to feel like you had to have some sort of decorum and, and, and a sense of propriety and respect for the office. Right. So that's been lost. But the reason I point out that I don't think the majority of the American people approve of this is because ultimately the answer is going to come from the American people.

[Commentator/Host]

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