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Donald Trump is panicking. He is flailing as he has been hit in the face by instant karma. You now have former president Bill Clinton and former Secretary of state Hillary Clinton saying, you know what, you want us to testify about the Epstein files? We'll do it. Let's do it in public. So, hey, Donald, why don't you testify in public as well? We're not afraid. We want to do it in front of the world live on tv. So Donald Trump held this disastrous exclusive interview with NBC. And Donald Trump then starts praising former president Bill Clinton and he's like, you know what, I really like Bill Clinton now. And I'm really upset that they're going to make him testify. And you know, I think that he really understands who I am. Watch this here, play this clip.
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It bothers me that somebody's going after Bill Clinton. See, I like Bill Clinton. I still like Bill Clinton. What do you like about him? I liked. Well, I liked his behavior toward me. I thought he got me.
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He Understood me, really, Donald. And then Donald Trump responds to this next question. Well, Democrats are saying that if former President Clinton testifies, you should testify, too. Watch Donald Trump's response.
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It is a shame. NBC News broke the story today. I don't know if you saw it, that the Democrats are already saying, if you bring President Bill Clinton and he has to testify, we're bringing President Trump. What do you say to that? I think they might say that, you know, but they've already brought me. See, I've been brought. They had me indicted many, many times. Many, many times. They didn't do that. Do you think?
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And it's not just Donald Trump panicking right now, because what's in those Epstein files, that ain't going away, Donald. And it's only a partial release of the documents. I mean, we know that there's at least 3 million more documents which could equate to 25 to 50 million pages that are still missing. I saw this meme, and it's true. Did you know that there are more references to Donald Trump in the Epstein files than there are references to Harry Potter in all seven Harry Potter books? Yeah, there's over 38,000 references to Donald Trump in the Epstein file. So speaker of the House Maga Mike Johnson, Trump's sycophant, is asked by Manu Raju, do you think Donald Trump should have to testify under oath now? And MAGA Mike tried to run away. Here, play this clip.
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Shouldn't Trump have to answer some questions, too? He's been named more than a thousand times in these documents.
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The president submits to press inquiries every day.
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Not under oath, not under oath.
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Not under oath.
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But he's asked the questions all the time and he answers them.
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We'll see where it goes. Now, that interview that Donald Trump did on NBC was disastrous on a lot of fronts as well. I mean, Donald Trump was asked about his ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo murdering Americans and killing people. And Donald Trump's concern is. Yeah, my big concern is it's bad press. It was bad publicity. Donald Trump's like, you killed two people. And all of a sudden I'm getting bad press. Why am I getting bad, bad press? You have ICE and Border Patrol Gestapo killing people. And you think about it in terms of ratings. How sick. Here, play this clip.
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It's bad. I hate it. I hate even talking about it. Two people out of tens of thousands, okay. And you get bad publicity. Nobody talks about all of the murderers that were taken out of our country. They don't talk about. But it was too they don't talk about. We have the smallest trucks as an example. We've been very tough on the waters and soon, you know, pretty much overall. But if you look at. If you look at the waters where we knock out boats, and then Donald.
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Trump says, but, you know, I'm getting great polls right now. Great polls. I'm bringing in $18 trillion. And to the credit of the reporter, the reporter fact checks him to his face and says, actually, your. Your polls are really bad. People hate what you're doing to the economy. And Donald Trump's like, oh, really? Here, watch what goes down. Let's play this clip.
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I'm getting. Starting to get great polls on the economy, which I think the polls on the economy aren't.
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Are.
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They're not great. They should be great. They should be. So why aren't they, if you believe that? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, look, I've got Americans tell.
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Us, we hear this.
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I mean, we're going to get into the economy later, but, I mean, they tell us they don't feel it. Yeah, I have $18 trillion being invested into the country. Biden had less than a trillion for four years. And the whole country was going to create a. Do you know, what does America feel like? You know, that if they won that election and we won in a landslide, you know, if they won that election, this country was. I think it was finished. I actually think it was finished.
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And then Donald Trump starts bragging that he has already won the lawsuit that he has filed for $10 billion against his own. Against the government, which should be we the people's government, which he's essentially taken over. Uh, he says that, yeah, I won. I won the lawsuit, and now I'm going to pay myself $10 million. He sued the IRS because he said they leaked his tax returns, like 10 years ago when every other president released their tax returns. And so he says, well, now I'm going to pay myself $10 billion. And the reporter's like, you know, we have $38 trillion in debt, so you're going to be taking money from the system in order to, to pay yourself. And then Donald Trump's like, yeah, but I'm gonna. I'll give it to a charity. What are you. What are we talking. You're settling with? You're stealing our taxpayer dollars. Play this clip.
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Essentially, the lawsuit's been won. I guess I won a lot of money. Scott Besant's the head of the irs.
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Campani's the head of the Justice Department. They're going to defend the IRS against you.
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Well, there's like it in all fairness. So are you going to. Are you going to tell the baby? Don't forget I sued as a private citizen because I sued between terms. I won three times to pay you. I won three times. But I didn't assume. Unfortunately for this country, I didn't assume office the second day. But here's the story. I sued because they broke into Mar A Lago. That was before I became president. Now it goes along and it turned out that the suit is a very strong suit. You're going to tell them to pay you, though. You're the boss. Well, what I would do, tell them to pay me. But I'll give 100% of the money to charity. I don't want any of that money. Take it out the system.
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A couple more questions here.
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No, no, I'm putting it back into the system. Yeah. If I give money to American Cancer Society, I will give 100% of the money away to. I don't want any $30 trillion debt.
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And we're going to take 10 billion.
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Out of the system. Well, I mean, you give it away anyway. They give away a lot of money. You're endorsed. Speaking about that, Minnesota and these other states, we have massive investigations going into fraud. You know, if we captured 50% of the fraud of this country right now, we would have better than a balanced budget. And you got to mention that Minnesota, $19 billion in fraud.
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And then Donald Trump brags about taking aspirin all the time. So he has thin blood and he wants his blood to be nice and thin. I mean, this guy's a madman. Here, play this clip.
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It will be aspirin. Still taking the aspirin. I take aspirin and I don't want to change. You know, I don't want to. So you go get your doctor's orders.
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You do what you kind of feel.
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You know, I've been taking aspirin for 30 years and I don't. I don't want to change it. So, you know, they say, take the smaller one. I say, well, I want that blood to be nice and thin running through my heart.
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Now the dominoes are falling. Since the release of these Epstein files, we've seen national security advisors like Slovakia fall. We've seen no longer really, Lord Mandelson, the former UK Ambassador to the United States. Brad Karp, who is the chairman, the former leader of the Paul Weiss law firm. Remember that first law firm that capitulated to Donald Trump and entered into that Settlement to people like Paul Weiss is such a prominent firm. Why would they capitulate to Donald Trump? Well, it turns out that in 2019, Epstein was exchanging emails with Brad Karp about, you know, helping each other out and helping out other people there and who. And this grotesque messages. And so Brad Karp is now resigning from Paul Weiss. We're like, why would Paul Weiss do this deal with Donald Trump? Oh, got it. Their chairman was in the Epstein files. And by the way, it's looking like the Labour Party's leader in the uk, Keir Starmer. Prime Minister Starmer, that government's falling apart right now because of the fact that Mandelson, the UK Ambassador to the United States, is all over the files. He's very influential in the Labor Party. You know, there are a lot of people are saying, look, Prime Minister Starmer is a good, decent guy, you know, and he's been. I think he's been really good with Ukraine. I think he's been really weak in dealing with Donald Trump. But I understand, you know, there's complexities in the geopolitical situation. But in any event, he had a disastrous appearance before Parliament yesterday, because I don't care what political party you're from, you know, this is a massive, massive issue. If people are in these files and a very influential person and the labor leaders in the files, who is the UK Ambassador to the United States? So watch as you had someone from the opposition party questioning Starmer, you know, and Starmer struggled to get through this. But at least they're like it's bandage ripped off in the Parliament there, and they're talking about these issues. And, you know, here in the United States, I mean, you see what MAGA Mike is so just like, can contrast how in every other country, there's like, things that are happening now if you're affiliated with Epstein, but not in the United States, where Donald Trump's at the heart of the cabal. Here, Play this clip right here. Can the Prime Minister tell us did the official security vetting he received mention Mandelson's ongoing relationship with the paedophile Jeffrey Epstein, Prime Minister? Yes, it did. As a result, various questions were put to him. I intend to disclose to this House all of the national security prejudice to international relations on one side. I want to make sure that. I want to make sure this house sees the full documentation so it will see for itself the extent to which. The extent to which time and time again, Mandelson completely misrepresented the extent of.
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His relationship with Epstein and lied throughout.
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The process, including in response to the.
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Due diligence.
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You know. And so, as Donald Trump gets more and more desperate, I think we're going to start to hear things like this. You had Steve Bannon yesterday saying that we're going to have ICE surround the polls come November. Remember earlier this week, Donald Trump was posting photos of Steve Bannon saying, great guy. Steve Bannon's all over the files. Steve Bannon was talking to Epstein right up until Epstein's death about rehabilitating Epstein's image, giving information, seems like funneling information to Trump from Trump. I mean, those are all over the files. Bannon, Epstein, Trump. And so here's what Bannon said yesterday. Let's play this clip.
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You're damn right we're gonna have ICE surround the polls come November. We're not gonna sit here and allow you to steal the country again. And you can whine and cry and throw your toys out of the pram.
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All you want, but we will never.
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Again allow an election to be stolen.
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And speaking of ice, did you know that ICE agents have apparently been dropping these Ace of Spades cards as death cards? When they detain people, they're, like, terrorizing people with these death cards. Have you seen this? Here, play this clip.
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Today, members of Congress are raising serious.
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Questions about this Ace of Spades card that they say is being placed by ICE agents in Colorado on the abandoned vehicles of people who have been detained.
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Lawmakers are calling this move an intimidation tactic because the Ace of Spades is also known as the death card, often.
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Associated with psychological warfare. One leader from an immigrant rights group in the state told a local station.
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That they know of at least two.
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People who had the card on their vehicles.
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So the reporter then asked Donald Trump, you know, look, you tweeted out some theories about, like, you know, theories like your conspiracies about Italian satellites changing the election results in 2020. And you believe that. That there's, you know, Venezuela was working with Italian CIA, China. They mean. I mean, understand the conspiracy theory. And Trump's like, I didn't tweet it. I re. Truthed it. Play this clip.
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You tweeted out some.
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Some theories about Italians and satellites.
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I mean, do you believe that stuff? No, no, I. No, I didn't cheat. I sometimes will retweet. I will retrue.
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And we also have been learning that Donald Trump's Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, has been spending a lot of last year in Puerto Rico, where she's been investigating one of Trump's deranged conspiracies of Venice, of Hugo Chavez, Venezuelan machines hacking into the America. Again, I can't even follow what these conspiracy theories are. But, you know, I think one of the things that Trump's going to try to do with Maduro is get Maduro to plead guilty and say that Venezuela interfered with the 2020 election. Like that seems to be an obvious thing that Trump's trying to do. Melania was asked about Ghislaine Maxwell when she was holding a press conference using hostages who were freed. Israeli American, Israeli hostages who were freed. But she was using that to promote her movie. Then she was asked a question about Ghislaine and she's like, I do not want to talk about this. Here, play this clip.
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Thank you.
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We are here celebrating the release and the life of those two incredible people. So let's honor that. And then Donald Trump's been sending emails like this to his supporters. It says, from Trump, hello, before I sign your name on your tariff check, I want to check that your name is spelled right. So it says, then it's a photo of Trump holding hundred dollar bills. And you click it because he says he's going to give you money. This is the only tariff rebate email authorized by Donald Trump. Then again, when you click the email, there's no tariff rebate check. You think you're getting a tariff rebate check because you click the money, but you give him your money. I mean, he's just a scan, he's just a scam artist and everything. So share that all with you. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. We appreciate you new Midas merch. Head to store.midastouch.com today and get yourself the best pro democracy gear and show your support. That's store.midas touch.com.
Date: February 5, 2026
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
This episode dives into the fallout from the latest Epstein file releases and their seismic effects on political and legal figures worldwide, with a focus on Donald Trump’s erratic responses and mounting legal peril. The Meiselas brothers dissect Trump’s NBC interview, highlight his public contradictions and legal boasting, and examine the international reverberations, especially as influential leaders face scrutiny. The brothers infuse their brotherly banter and comedic lens into a deep, unapologetic defense of democracy.
The Meiselas brothers maintain an irreverent, urgent tone, blending incisive commentary with humor and brotherly rapport. They emphasize the gravity of the Epstein files’ impact, especially for Trump and his orbit, sharply critique Trump’s evasions and his party’s enabling, and draw stark contrasts with other democratic countries’ swift reckoning. Throughout, they encourage proactive support for democracy, turning their outrage and wit into a rallying cry for listeners.