Trump Gets Lost in Oval Before Utterly Deranged Presser

Summary

The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Trump Gets Lost in Oval Before Utterly Deranged Presser"

Date: December 16, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a recent, highly controversial press conference held by Donald Trump after a bizarre moment in the Oval Office where he appeared lost. The Meiselas brothers dissect Trump’s rambling statements on multiple subjects, including vicious comments about recently murdered public figures, conspiratorial attacks on institutions, dubious claims about drug policy, and further signals of authoritarian thinking. Throughout, the hosts deliver their trademark blend of political analysis and comedic brotherly banter while reinforcing the importance of supporting democracy in an era of rising disinformation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump Gets Lost in the Oval Office Before Presser

• [02:41] The episode opens by highlighting a viral moment: Trump appeared disoriented, seemingly “lost” in the Oval Office before facing the press. The hosts play the clip for context.

2. Deranged Attacks After Tragedy: Rob Reiner & Brown University

• [03:08] Trump is confronted by a reporter regarding a Truth Social post made after the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife, with their son as the main suspect. Instead of expressing condolences, Trump launches into an attack:
  • Quote:
    “He [Rob Reiner] was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned... He became like a deranged person. Trump derangement syndrome.”
    — Donald Trump [03:15]
• He quickly pivots to attacking Brown University regarding a campus shooting, shifting culpability to the school rather than addressing wider accountability.

3. Deflection, Conspiracies & Legal Threats

• [05:01] Trump announces plans to sue the BBC for allegedly using AI to fabricate him saying things he denies, especially regarding January 6th.
  • Quote:
    “They actually put terrible words in my mouth having to do with January 6th that I didn’t say... That’s called fake news.”
    — Donald Trump [05:04]
• The hosts underline the hypocrisy and the misuse of “fake news” accusations as a political tool.

4. False Economic Claims

• [06:07] Trump again deploys inaccurate talking points, claiming:
  • “We’re the ones that are bringing prices down... Energy is coming way down. If you look, gasoline prices are hitting... $1.99 a gallon. Nobody thought they’d see that.”
• The brothers debunk his framing on inflation and affordability, reminding listeners of broader economic realities.

5. Colorado, Pardons, and Election Lies

• [07:24] Trump attacks Colorado's governor, calling him incompetently “run by Trend Aragua,” while asserting that Tina (presumably Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters) was unjustly jailed for “catching” supposed election fraud rather than committing any.
  • Quote:
    “The governor of Colorado is a weak and pathetic man who was run by Trend Aragua... He puts Tina in jail for nine years because she caught people cheating.”
    — Donald Trump [07:24]
• The hosts contextualize this as continuation of the “Big Lie” and its corrosive effects.

6. Fentanyl Declared a Weapon of Mass Destruction

• [10:58] Trump uses the presser to sign an executive order classifying fentanyl as a WMD:
  • Quote:
    “No bomb does what this is doing. 200 to 300,000 people die every year that we know of. So we’re formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.” — Donald Trump [10:58]
• The brothers question the efficacy and motive behind such a classification versus real solutions.

7. Dubious Drug War Claims

• [11:47] Trump claims a 94% reduction in drugs entering by sea, though the hosts point out there’s no evidence for such a dramatic decline.

8. Affordable Care Act & Health Policy Misstatements

• [13:21] Asked about ACA subsidies, Trump calls for giving “all of the money that’s going to the Democrat insurance companies” directly to the people:
  • “Insurance companies are making a Fortune. They’re up 1700 percent and more.”
• The hosts explain the impracticality of this oversimplification, labeling it fraudulent.

9. Crypto Conviction Question

• [14:07] When pressed on pardoning Keone Rodriguez, convicted for crypto privacy software, Trump says:
  • “We’ll look at that... I don’t know anything about it, but we’ll take a look.”
• The segment reveals Trump’s unfamiliarity with specifics and tendency to answer in platitudes.

10. Waffling on Russia, Ukraine, and Foreign Policy

• [14:27] Trump offers ambiguous, both-sides commentary on Ukraine/Russia:
  • “Russia wants to get it ended... Ukraine wants to get it ended... But I think that’s working along. Very good talk.”
• [15:27] Claims he forged “peace deals” between Thailand and Cambodia — a statement the hosts mock as baseless and incoherent.
• [16:06] On keeping US troops in Syria:
  • “Because we’re trying to make sure that there’s going to be and remain peace in the Middle East and Syria is a big part of it. The new leader is a strong person and that’s what you need.”

11. Physical Struggles and Closing Moments

• [17:11] The episode ends on Trump awkwardly exiting the room, with the hosts (and video, for YouTube viewers) highlighting the disconnect between his rhetoric and perceived capability.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ben Meiselas [01:59]: “What just went down in the Oval Office. Let me just share it with you.”
  (Sets the tone for the episode’s incredulity.)

• Donald Trump on Fentanyl [10:58]:
  “No bomb does what this is doing... We’re formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.”

• Narrator/Commentator on ACA Plan [12:26]:
  “Trump’s not going to give people money. He’s lying about that the same way he lied about Doge dividend checks and tariff rebate checks.”

• Trump on Tulucu Aragua in Colorado [07:24]:
  “The governor of Colorado is a weak and pathetic man who was run by Trend Aragua...”

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Important Timestamps

• [02:41] – Trump appears lost before presser
• [03:08] – Trump’s attack on Rob Reiner after his murder
• [04:00] – Trump shifts blame to Brown University after shooting
• [05:01] – Trump threatens lawsuit against BBC over January 6th
• [06:07] – Claiming 'affordability is on the Democrats'
• [07:24] – Attack on Colorado governor and defense of Tina
• [10:58] – Executive order: Fentanyl as a WMD
• [11:47] – Bizarre stats on drugs and border
• [13:21] – Misleading ACA/health insurance plan proposal
• [14:07] – Response to crypto pardon question
• [14:27] – Both-sides approach to Russia/Ukraine
• [15:27] – Fictitious “deal” between Thailand and Cambodia
• [16:06] – Rationalization for US troops in Syria
• [17:11] – Trump struggles to leave the room (visual highlight)

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Episode Tone & Analysis

The Meiselas brothers maintain an energetic, irreverent tone, leveraging humor and incredulity in equal measures. Their commentary continually contextualizes Trump’s statements, exposing inconsistencies, and reminding listeners of the broader implications for democracy and truthfulness in politics. The episode is a whirlwind tour of Trump’s recent shocking statements, with the brothers mocking, analyzing, and countering his disinformation at every turn.

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For those who missed the episode, this summary covers the substance of Trump’s presser, with timestamps to the most consequential soundbites and analysis, offering both the facts and the MeidasTouch flavor.

Transcript

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[Narrator/Commentator]

Visit t mobile.com this was truly horrific after Donald Trump appeared to be lost in the Oval Office before this press conference was set to take place. He then held a press conference where he attacked Rob Reiner. Rob Reiner and his wife were just murdered and the main suspect appears to be their son who suffered from serious drug addiction. Then Donald Trump attacked Brown University. Even though Trump was the one who spread lies and disinformation about having the shooter in custody. This was beyond horrific. What just went down in the Oval Office. Let me just share it with you. So here was Donald Trump when he got lost in the Oval Office before the press conference took place.

[Clip Player]

Let's play this clip right here.

[Narrator/Commentator]

And then Donald Trump attacks Rob Reiner and who was just murdered and Reiner's wife was murdered and the main suspect is their son. And Donald Trump says Reiner is a deranged person. He has Trump derangement syndrome. Watch what Donald Trump says here.

[Clip Player]

Play this clip.

[Reporter]

A number of Republicans have denounced your statement on Truth Social after the murder of Rob Reiner. Do you stand by that post?

[Donald Trump]

Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. He said he liked. He knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite that I was a friend of Russia, controlled by Russia. You know, it was the Russia hoax. He was one of the people behind it. I think he hurt himself in career wise, he became like a deranged person. Trump derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape or form. I thought he was very bad for our country. Yeah.

[Reporter]

On blue slips, Mr. President, Leader Thune.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Doesn'T seem now this follows Donald Trump making a post earlier in the day where he also attacked Rob Reiner. Just utterly horrific. Here next, Donald Trump attacks Brown University.

[Clip Player]

Play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

Hopefully they're going to capture.

[Reporter]

Has Kash Patel told you why it's been so difficult for the FBI to identify who the shooter is?

[Donald Trump]

Well, it's always difficult. So far, we've done a very good job of doing it with Charlie, with, you know, the various times this has happened, they've done it in pretty much record time. But you really have to ask the school a little bit more about that because, you know, this was a school problem. They had their own guards, they had their own police, they had their own everything. But you'd have to ask that question really to the school, not to the FBI. We came in after the fact and the FBI will do a good job. But they came in after the fact.

[Narrator/Commentator]

That he then says that he will be suing BBC, the network for putting words in his mouth about the January 6th insurrection. We saw what you did on January 6th. We know you were responsible for the insurrection. But okay, you're going to sue BBC. That's what your focus is on here.

[Clip Player]

Play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

Exist anymore because they know they're not going to get through. In a little while you'll be seeing I'm suing the BBC for putting words in my mouth. Literally to put words in my mouth. They had me saying things that I never said coming out. I guess they used AI or something. So we'll be bringing that lawsuit. A lot of people are asking when are you bringing that lawsuit? Even the media can't believe that one. They actually put terrible words in my mouth having to do with January 6th that I didn't say. And the beautiful words that I said. Right? The beautiful words talking about patriotism and all of the good things that I said. They didn't say that, but they put terrible words. They actually have me speaking with words that I never said and they got caught because I believe somebody at BBC said this is so bad it has to be reported. That's called fake news. So we'll be filing that suit probably this afternoon or tomorrow morning. I want.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Then Donald Trump again calls affordability a hoax and says prices are coming down quickly.

[Clip Player]

Here, play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

And they don't mention the border anymore. Nobody talks about the border. They talk about affordability and we're the ones that are bringing the prices down. We were given the worst inflation in our country's history and we're bringing the prices down. But the affordability is on the Democrats because they have made it unaffordable to be in this country. But we're bringing those prices down and they're coming down quickly. Energy is coming way down. And if you look, gasoline prices are hitting in many locations $1.99 a gallon. Nobody thought they'd see that.

[Narrator/Commentator]

He then says that he came up with the name Caravans.

[Donald Trump]

Let's play it happened because the Caravans name I think I came up with maybe, maybe not.

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[Clip Player]

Here, play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

And last month we seized another 1.7 million fentanyl pills in the state of Colorado, the poorly run state of Colorado with a governor who's incompetent and frankly, with a governor that won't allow our wonderful Tina to come out of a jail in a high intensity jail because she caught people cheating on an election and they said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating. She went over, she looked at one of the election scams going on and because she did that, they put her in jail for nine years. The governor of Colorado is a weak and pathetic man who was run by Trend Aragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections of Colorado and he was afraid to do anything. But he puts Tina in jail for nine years because she caught people cheating and when she walked over and got involved in it, they said she was cheating. She wasn't cheating. She caught people cheating on the election 2020 along with a lot of other people that cheated on that election. You'll see that coming out more and more.

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If you're wondering, well, Ben, what's the purpose of this press conference? At the same time Donald Trump was attacking Rob Reiner, whose son seems to be the main suspect in the murder, who suffered from drug addiction. Donald Trump held this to declare fentanyl a wmd, like nuclear bombs. And he said, I'm declaring fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction. Now, no doubt the scourge of fentanyl is something that we all should recognize, saying it's a weapon of mass destruction. Okay. I mean, I'm not sure how that's actually addressing the problems here.

[Clip Player]

Play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

Today, I'm taking one more step to protect Americans from the scourge of deadly fentanyl flooding into our country with this historic executive order I will sign today. We're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is what it is. No bomb does what this is doing. 200 to 300,000 people die every year that we know of. So we're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Then Donald Trump claims that 90. He makes. This makes up a number. 94% of drugs are not getting into this country. At the same time, I don't think that there's any concomitant drop in underlying drug use in the country. Here.

[Clip Player]

Play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

And we don't put up with it. I have to say the drugs coming in by sea are down 94%. And we're trying to figure out who the other 6% are, but they're down 94%. And we're going to start hitting them on land, which is a lot easier to do, frankly. But these are a direct military threat to the United States of America. They're trying to drug out our country. And you can look throughout history. Look at China, when they were loaded up with drugs, they were suffering greatly, and others were able to take them over.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Donald Trump is asked about whether Congress will extend the Affordable Care act subsidies this week. It's a very important thing that Americans are very worried about, that their health care is going to be ripped away. And then Donald Trump engages in his usual fraud and says, my plan is we're going to eliminate Democratic insurance companies and give the people the money. Again, that's not even understanding the way insurance works. Trump's not going to give people money. He's lying about that the same way he lied about Doge dividend checks and tariff rebate checks. So this is more fraud from Donald Trump. But even if you gave somebody a $2,000 check, do you know what a surgery costs or what chemo costs or what if someone, if you're in a bad accident, what that costs? So you have no under $2,000. It's not addressing insurance and risk pools.

[Clip Player]

Here, play this clip.

[Reporter]

What do you want to see Congress.

[Donald Trump]

Do this week as it relates to.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Health care and the expiring acl?

[Donald Trump]

That's a good question. I'd like to see the people get the money. I'd like to see all of the money that's going to the Democrat insurance companies. You know, the insurance companies are making a Fortune. They're up 1700 percent and more.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Then a reporter asked Donald Trump about pardoning someone in the crypto industry who was recently convicted. And Donald Trump said, or charged. And Donald Trump said, well, you know, here's what I'm going to do here.

[Clip Player]

Play this clip.

[Reporter]

Mr. President, this week a man named Keone Rodriguez is going to federal prison for creating crypto privacy software. The case was started under the Biden administration, but your doj, DOJ kept it going and secured the conviction. A lot of people in crypto are saying that this man should be pardoned. Are you familiar with the case at all or would you be interested?

[Donald Trump]

I've heard about it. I'll look at it. Why you think he should be pardoned? Sounds like it sounds like based on.

[Reporter]

Your question, many people.

[Donald Trump]

Rodriguez, we'll look at that. Bam. Okay, let's take a look at it. You'll have to tell me. I don't know anything about it, but we'll take a look.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Then Donald Trump tries to both sides, Russia and Ukraine.

[Clip Player]

Let's play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

And at this moment, Russia wants to get it ended. The problem is they'll want to get it ended and then all of a sudden they won't. And Ukraine will want to get it ended and all of a sudden they won't. So we have to get them on the same page. But I think that's working along. Very good talk.

[Narrator/Commentator]

Just to be very clear, every time there's been a conversation with Ukraine, Ukraine has agreed to a ceasefire. Ukraine's not going to give away its eastern territory to Russia that Russia has not been able to take over. When Russia takes the eastern Ukrainian territory, they're going to continue to move west until they take over all of Europe. So. But Ukraine has always agrees to a ceasefire and Russia wants absolute surrender. Next, Donald Trump claims that he did another peace deal with Thailand and Cambodia and he calls them people. And again, this is not true. He's just not telling the truth. Things have been getting worse in Thailand and Cambodia, in Rwanda and Congo, all these things are getting worse under Donald Trump.

[Clip Player]

Here, play this clip again.

[Donald Trump]

We don't want to have a war start up again. You know, as I said, with Thailand and Cambodia, two people I get along with great and I dealt with them and I called him and I said, look, fellas, you gotta relax, you gotta take it easy. They lost, you know, they started the war again. I got it ended. And things like that are gonna happen. War, there's nothing, nothing pretty about war. Nothing good. And there's nothing you can do to predict what's going to happen.

[Narrator/Commentator]

A reporter then asked Donald Trump, why do we have troops in Syria in the first place? And here's what Donald Trump says here, play this clip.

[Reporter]

Have you recently spoken directly to Putin?

[Donald Trump]

Yeah, I have.

[Reporter]

On Syria, Mr. President, on the US troops killed in Syria over the weekend. Why do we have troops in Syria?

[Donald Trump]

Because we're trying to make sure that there's going to be and remain peace in the Middle east and Syria is a big part of it. The new leader is a strong person and that's what you need. This is a rough part of the world and we've, it's been amazing what's taken place in Syria we got rid of.

[Narrator/Commentator]

You should also know that the leader of Syria, Jelani, who used to be the leader of Al Qaeda, is actually in a very weakened position. Trump thinks he's strong because Trump thinks the guy's like handsome. Like Trump's attracted to the guy and he sprays perfume and cologne on the guy. But actually a lot of what Trump's done with Jelani is showing that Jelani's compromised. And you're seeing a rise right now in ISIS related attacks in Syria as a result of Trump's weakness. Now, finally, I'll show you Donald Trump leaving and you can see he kind of struggles to get out of the room here.

[Clip Player]

Play this clip.

[Reporter]

Thank you, Mr. President.

[Narrator/Commentator]

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