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The thing that drives me every day as a dad is Dariona. We call him Dae Dae for short. Every day he's hungry for something, whether it's attention, affection, knowledge. And there's this huge responsibility in making sure that when he's no longer under my wing that he's a good person. I want him to be able to sit back one day and go, we worked together. We did a good job.
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Trump is directing National Guard forces against Americans and threatening to send the Marines against Americans, a real international leader, President Zelensky is speaking to Americans specifically. His audience here is really the United States Senate and the House of Representatives and he's speaking to the international community about what's needed to actually defeat Russia. And President President Zelensky is not mincing words about Donald Trump's despicable behavior. So here President Zelensky in this interview this morning with ABC talks about how former President Biden was about to give Ukraine 20,000 anti drone air defense missiles and that this was so important to stop the Shahad drones that come from Iran and that are being used by Putin to kill innocent Ukrainians, but that Donald Trump directed those anti drone air defense missiles to Middle east countries when Donald Trump took that trip and then got the quid pro quo 747 private jet for himself. So Donald Trump took a gold plated jet for himself and then took 20,000 anti drone air defense missiles away from Ukraine and put them in the Middle east where Donald Trump is building Trump hotels and Trump properties. What a despicable piece of crap he is. Here, play this clip.
President Zelensky
Then we counted on this project 20,000 between us, 20,000 missiles. Anti Shaheed missiles. It was not expensive, but it's special technology. So we counted on these 20,000 missiles today. In the morning, my Minister of Defense told me that the United States moved it to the Middle East.
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You know what? I know there's some of you who don't like when I do the name calling and say you're better than that. Sometimes I just have to let you know how I'm feeling at a given piece, at a given place in time. And that's just how I felt when I said that. So whatever. President Zelensky then posts the following. What the Russians want is the complete destruction of life and more than 11 years of Russia's war against Ukraine. They have brought only one new thing to our land, the most widespread Russian legacy, ruins and death. We must continue resisting this. I thank everyone around the world who is helping, and to me that's a subtle jab at Trump. He's not helping. The Russians are preparing to continue the war and are ignoring all peace proposals. They must be held accountable. We are working to strengthen Ukraine's air defense. We urgently need positive signals from the United States regarding air defense systems. We are still waiting for a response to our request to purchase systems that can help. I thank the European countries for supplies. We must also achieve results in joint production of air defense systems and missiles. This is absolutely essential for our whole Europe. Only time separates us from that results, and what matters most is the shortening of that time. Back to abc. President Zelensky criticizes Donald Trump for comparing Russia's invasion of Ukraine and attack on innocent Ukrainians causing mass death and casualties as something that's like two boys, two kids playing around. President Zelinsky goes, putin is not a boy. He's not a kid. He is an evil, evil dictator who is trying to have a genocide of Ukraine. Here, play this clip.
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Trump this week comparing it to two children fighting in a park.
Donald Trump
Sometimes you see two young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other and they're fighting in a park and you try and pull them apart. They don't want to be pulled. Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart.
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President Zelensky strongly refuting that notion. We are not playing in the park with the Russians like two boys, two kids. Putin is not a kid, Zelensky said, describing him as a maniac. So we can't compare and we cannot say, okay, let them fight for a while, Zelensky adding, and it's not about President Trump. Anyone living thousands of miles away can't fully understand the pain. Even parents who live in Ukraine cannot feel the pain of those who lost their children. The president telling the story of a man who lost his wife and three children in a missile strike, who told Zelensky, every morning I'm looking. I'm just looking for my family. I am looking everywhere in the flat. I still feel that it was a nightmare. I go outside, I see a father who holds his little girl's hand, and the girl is just like my dead daughter. I feel physical pain. I can't do anything about it. It is limitless. That's why we are not kids at the playground, Zelensky says, adding, putin is a murderer who came to the park to kill kids. It is something Zelensky says he has tried to convey to President Trump. But the relationship between the two has been tumultuous.
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Just to remind you, when Donald Trump was in the Oval Office with Frederick Mertz this past week, Donald Trump said that really what we see here between Putin and Ukraine, it's like two young children fighting like crazy in a park. It's like two. Two boys playing with each other. And sometimes you just gotta let the boys fight. And Donald Trump, with the Chancellor of Germany, Frederick Mertz, staying there, Trump was like, that's what I told Putin during our call. That's what Putin and I discussed. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
But sometimes you see two young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other, and they're fighting in a park, and you try and pull them apart. They don't want to be pulled. Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart. And I gave that analogy to Putin yesterday. I said, president, maybe you're going to have to keep fighting and suffering a lot because both sides are suffering.
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And again, it's just so utterly embarrassing and humiliating to have this utter fool, Donald Trump, in the Oval Office. I mean, the worst leader, the worst human being to ever be in the White House. Forget being a leader. And I'm describing everybody who's probably stepped foot in the White House here. Donald Trump says this is what Putin told him about Ukraine's drone strike strategic strike on Russia's air force capabilities degrading about 30 to 35% of Russia's strategic air force fleet. 41 airplanes were destroyed. And then Donald Trump said, well, Putin says it's not going to be pretty. We're going to have to attack Ukraine pretty hard. Now here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
Some additional fighting that's going to go on. You know, he was, he attacked and, and they attacked pretty harshly. They went deep into Russia. And he actually told me, I mean, I made it very clear. He said, we have no choice but to attack based on that and it's probably not going to be pretty.
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So then Zelensky's asked this question, do you think that Trump believes that Russia is winning the war? And Zelensky says, yeah, I know that's definitely what Trump believes. He says it all the time. He goes, it's not true, but Trump is under Putin's spell. Listen to what Zelensky says. Here, play this clip.
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Does President Trump believe that Russia is winning this war, do you think?
President Zelensky
Yes.
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Has he told you that?
President Zelensky
I think he's publicly said about it. And I know that he shared this information with some people around him and I think this operation, and I said it a lot of times, it's not true. It's not a victory when you spend, really spend 1 million people.
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This was a powerful part of the interview where Zelensky says, just trust me, we understand the Russians better than Americans. We understand them better than Trump. We know what they're doing. Trust us. We've been the ones fighting there. We've been. We're the ones who he invaded. We know their mentality. They are bad. They are evil people. They just want death, destruction and ruin. Stop with the both sides crap. Here's President Zelensky in his own words. Play this clip.
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President Trump told our Terry Moran in an interview, a recent interview, that he does believe Putin wants peace. You think he's wrong.
President Zelensky
But if people.
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With all due respect to President Trump, Zelensky says, I think it's just his personal opinion, trust me, we understand the Russians much better. The mentality of the Russians than the Americans understand the Russians. I know for sure Putin doesn't want to stop the war.
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Now, here was President Zelinsky reflecting on what went down in the Oval Office when Donald Trump started attacking Zelensky and saying, you don't hold the cards, you don't hold the cards. That was Trump's plan. Bully Zelensky into surrender those Trump's plan. Then Trump was going to steal the minerals from Ukraine in a mineral deal, just grab them all and then give Putin the other parts of Ukraine. And that was Trump's idea. Basically, the US And Russia split Ukraine as two hegemonic powers and Trump was then going to do business deals with Putin and Russia. That was Trump's plan. But Zelinsky stood up for himself and stood up for his country, and Zelinsky stood up for the free world. Here, play this clip.
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In February, that Oval Office visit spiraling out of control.
Donald Trump
You're right now not in a very good position. You've allowed yourself to be in a.
President Zelensky
Very bad position from the very beginning of the war.
Donald Trump
You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now with us, you start having cards right now. You don't have your playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War Three.
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We all saw that Oval Office, chaotic, disastrous meeting. I know after that meeting, you tried to repair that relationship. Tell us what it was like in the aftermath. It's quite complicated. Zelensky said. You could watch it live and it was very clear and very straightforward. I used to remind everyone Cameras don't lie, could see on their television screens. I think the result of that meeting, I was very honest and open when I said that a small country is fighting for its life against the giant with all that evil that they brought with their army and their weapons to our land. 631 children lost their lives, he said, for some, those are numbers. But for me, he said, it's important, important that I defend my position. And I was trying to do that in the Oval Office.
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Now here, Zelinsky tells ABC this Week that his country is ready for a ceasefire. And they've always been ready. They said, we've agreed to an unconditional cease fire. Putin has not played this clip.
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Does President Trump believe that Russia is winning this war, do you think?
President Zelensky
Yes.
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Has he told you that?
President Zelensky
I think he's publicly sad about it. And I know that he shared this information with some people around him. And I think this operation, and I said it a lot of times, it's not true. It's not a victory when you spend, really spend 1 million people.
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What Zelenskyy wants is more pressure on Putin, much stronger sanctions, which Trump has threatened but hasn't put in place. I am convinced that the President of the United States has all the power and enough leverage, he said, to unite European leaders, adding, they are all looking at President Trump as a leader for the free world, a free democratic world, and they are waiting for him. So he has to do it. He must. We also asked President Zelensky about military aid from the US which could be ending. He said without it, there is a greater chance Russia will win and Ukraine will suffer much more. Loss of life much more. And yet he has not given up hope. Cease fire talks, which have gotten nowhere so far, are scheduled to resume Monday.
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What's Donald Trump too busy doing? I mean, he was at a UFC fight last night, and if you zoom in, many suspect that he was indeed wearing a catheter last night as well. I've seen many spec. Lots of speculations about that. And so we're unsure even about, you know, what his health condition is. And just look at this guy, though. I mean, this is what he's spending time doing as he's declaring martial law. Not martial law, but as he wants to declare martial law, but as he's sending the National Guard against Americans, as he's activating the Marines again, potentially activating Marines against Americans, I should say, moving towards what he wants to do, which is martial law. Despicable stuff. Anyway. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching New Midas Merch Drop. Check out the latest Pro Democracy Occur.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Zelenskyy Hits Him Hard"
Release Date: June 8, 2025
In this intense episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve deep into the escalating tensions between former President Donald Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. The discussion highlights Zelenskyy's strong condemnation of Trump's actions and rhetoric concerning the Ukraine-Russia conflict, presenting a compelling narrative on international leadership and democratic support.
The episode kicks off with the hosts addressing President Zelenskyy's sharp criticism of Donald Trump. Zelenskyy accuses Trump of undermining Ukraine's defense by redirecting crucial anti-drone missiles intended to protect Ukrainian citizens. At [01:29], the host summarizes Zelenskyy's accusations:
"Donald Trump directed those anti-drone air defense missiles to Middle East countries when Donald Trump took that trip and then got the quid pro quo 747 private jet for himself. So Donald Trump took a gold-plated jet for himself and then took 20,000 anti-drone air defense missiles away from Ukraine and put them in the Middle East where Donald Trump is building Trump hotels and Trump properties. What a despicable piece of crap he is."
The hosts play clips of Zelenskyy's interview with ABC, where he elaborates on the negative impact of Trump's decisions. At [03:01], Zelenskyy states:
"Then we counted on these 20,000 missiles today. In the morning, my Minister of Defense told me that the United States moved it to the Middle East."
Further emphasizing the gravity of the situation, Zelenskyy compares the war to a devastating tragedy, rejecting Trump's analogy of the conflict as two children fighting. At [05:10], after Trump's analogy is presented, Zelenskyy responds:
"We are not playing in the park with the Russians like two boys, two kids... Putin is a murderer who came to the park to kill kids."
Donald Trump’s attempts to downplay the Ukraine-Russia war by likening it to children fighting in a park are heavily criticized by Zelenskyy. At [07:28], Trump reiterates his analogy during a call with German Chancellor Friedrich Merz:
"Sometimes you see two young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other, and they're fighting in a park, and you try and pull them apart. Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart."
Zelenskyy counters Trump's analogy by highlighting the real human suffering caused by the conflict. At [10:40], he firmly rejects Trump's belief that Russia is winning the war:
"I think he's publicly said about it. And I know that he shared this information with some people around him and I think this operation, and I said it a lot of times, it's not true."
He further clarifies the depth of understanding Ukraine has regarding Russian intentions, stating:
"Trust me, we understand the Russians much better. The mentality of the Russians than the Americans understand the Russians."
A pivotal moment discussed in the episode is the chaotic meeting between Trump and Zelenskyy in the Oval Office. The host describes the confrontation where Trump allegedly attempted to pressure Zelenskyy into unfavorable agreements. At [13:04], during the replay of the meeting, Trump accuses Zelenskyy of:
"You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War Three."
Zelenskyy responds by defending his country's position, emphasizing the dire consequences of the war:
"I was very honest and open when I said that a small country is fighting for its life against the giant with all that evil that they brought with their army and their weapons to our land."
Zelenskyy advocates for stronger support from the United States, urging for increased sanctions and military aid to bolster Ukraine's defenses against Russian aggression. He expresses hope for renewed ceasefire talks but underscores the urgency of continued Western support:
"We must also achieve results in joint production of air defense systems and missiles. This is absolutely essential for our whole Europe."
The hosts criticize Trump's focus on personal activities over critical national and international issues. They highlight his appearance at a UFC fight amidst serious declarations of martial law and threats against American citizens. The host remarks:
"What's Donald Trump too busy doing? I mean, he was at a UFC fight last night... we're unsure even about, you know, what his health condition is."
Concluding the episode, the Meiselas brothers emphasize the importance of steadfast democratic leadership in times of crisis. They advocate for unwavering support for Ukraine and denounce Trump's actions as detrimental to both American and global democratic values.
"It's just so utterly embarrassing and humiliating to have this utter fool, Donald Trump, in the Oval Office. I mean, the worst leader, the worst human being to ever be in the White House."
Key Takeaways:
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast provides a critical examination of the interplay between U.S. domestic politics and international support for Ukraine, offering listeners insightful perspectives on the challenges facing global democracy today.