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Ben Meiselas
If Donald Trump thought that Ukrainian, Ukrainian President Zelensky was just going to roll over, well, Donald Trump just got a rude awakening. President Zelinsky of Ukraine is saying to Donald Trump, what makes you think that I'm going to give up so easily? As you try to sell out Ukraine to Russia, I'm going to show you some clips of what President Zelensky recently said. This follows, of course, the United States under Donald Trump's authoritarian regime, sending Secretary of State Marco Rubio to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, to negotiate directly. The Russians, led by their Foreign Minister, Sergey Lavrov, and the United States and Russia cut off Ukraine and Europe from being part of the negotiations. The plan was for the United States and Russia to carve up Ukraine, to sell it out to Russia and then just impose their will on Ukraine. And before this meeting, Donald Trump tried to get Zelinsky to sign a piece of paper giving basically all of Ukraine's rare earth metals to the in rare earth materials to the United States in perpetuity. So let me show you what Zelinsky did as the United States totally capitulated and showed how weak the United States is going to be and the betrayal by the United States to Ukraine and to Europe. So before this meeting in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, between the United States and Russia, let me show you what Zelinsky said when he was asked why he did not sign the piece of paper to give up all of the rare earth materials belonging to Ukraine to the United States, especially with no security guarantees. Here, play this clip.
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Donald Trump
What was the issue?
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Ben Meiselas
What the Americans showed you yesterday?
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Volodymyr Zelensky
It's not in our interests today, not in interest of sovereign Ukraine. I'm just a president. I'm a manager. And after my term, there will be another manager. And these resources, this is not mine of our people, and I'm a guarantor that these resources will have our children. With all partners, please make profits make business is open for your companies, in some cases exclusive to your place. We are strategic partner and that's why we trust Americans, American people and European, some European countries who helped a lot. It's about it, but it's not mine. I'm, I'm not the take give. So it's very serious things.
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Ben Meiselas
Okay, then. Following the meeting between, uh, the United States and Russia, Rubio and Sergey Lavrov, which Russian press, Russian state media, I should say, and propaganda was loving it. The United States bending its knee to Russia. This was the moment that Russia always wanted. Having the United States kiss the ring of Russia. It was so humiliating for the United States. And as an American, it was so shameful to see this American regime so utterly weak and pathetic. But you know who wasn't pathetic? President Zelensky. President Zelinsky went to Turkey where he met with the leader Erdogan there. And then Zelinsky talked about and basically directed this message to Donald Trump, saying, you think you're going to just cut us out? You think that I'm just going to submit to what you tell us to do? Do you know the history of Ukraine? Do you know how valiantly we fought the Russians when nobody was by our side at first, and then the rest of the world took notice? You think we're going to tap out that easily? Well, you don't know Ukrainians. Donald, here, play this clip.
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Volodymyr Zelensky
And we had no choice but to take up arms and defend ourselves. There was no diplomacy because Russia attacked Ukraine at night. And Ukrainians took up arms and began to defend their country without the help of any country in the world. That's how it was. No one was helping Ukraine at that moment. But then when everyone saw that Putin could not capture our country, that our people were not going anywhere, our military, that the President of Ukraine did not flee, then everyone understood that Ukraine needed help. And only then did various countries begin to provide help in varying amounts. Russia issued an ultimatum at that moment reducing the number of Ukrainian armed forces, recognizing the occupied territories of Ukraine as Russian territories. The country's leadership is pro Russian, so that it is completely aligned with Putin's hierarchy. And I have the impression that some negotiations are happening now and they have the same mood, but they are occurring between representatives of Russia and representatives of the United States. About Ukraine. Again, about Ukraine, and without Ukraine, it's interesting. If we didn't agree to all these ultimatums in the most difficult moment, where does this feeling come from that Ukraine will agree to them? Now, as for Turkey, then after the ultimatum, Russia gave the same ultimatum in Belarus at the meeting and the same ultimatum after Belarus in Turkey. We understand that there are no agreements neither during the occupation of Kiev with the Russians. No agreements during the meeting in Belarus, no agreements during the meeting in Turkey with the Russians. I, as the President of Ukraine, did not guarantee anything to anyone, did not confirm anything to anyone, especially I was not going to comply with Russia's ultimatums and I am not going to complain.
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Ben Meiselas
Powerful words there by Zelinsky where he said, it feels like the US Is now discussing the ultimatum that Putin set at the start of the full scale war. Once again, decisions about Ukraine are being made without Ukraine. I wonder if we didn't accept such ultimatums in our most difficult moment, why does anyone think we would now? Donald, you weak, pathetic person, you. Look, this is a Republican senator over here, Senator Roger Wicker. He is the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, and he's been a powerful ally, powerful advocate for Ukraine. He was asked right here if America, if Trump should trust Putin. Watch what this Republican says. Play this clip.
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Senator Roger Wicker
Do you think that Putin can be trusted in these negotiations?
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No. Putin is a war criminal and should be in jail for the rest of his life if not executed.
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Trump thinks that he should. He wants peace, that Putin wants peace.
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Well, I read a pamphlet back when I was in junior high called you can trust the Russians. And then parenthetically, it was to to be clearly on their side and to violate the rule of law. I think that's what we can trust the Russians to do, is to do anything to their advantage, to take temporary steps.
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Donald Trump
But.
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Senator Roger Wicker
Vladimir Putin was violated every tenet of international law.
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And I asked Wicker about the fact that the United States so far has begun those direct negotiations with Russia alone. He said, quote, I don't know what the scheme is, but he said that the Ukrainians ultimately need to be at the table. And he said, quote, european interests have to be considered and, quote, carefully weighed.
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Ben Meiselas
But as Julia Davis, who covers all of the Russian state propaganda, she runs Russian Monitor, she does a great job. She goes, wait until Trump teaches him and the rest of the spineless GOP to trust Putin. It won't take long for these pathetic magazines to fall into line like the sheeple that they are. While all of this was going on, Russian press was ecstatic at the weakness shown by the United States. Their top propaganda shows were saying, quote, the U.S. is doing Russia's work, says ecstatic propagandists. Putin's mouthpieces are in a lather over the excitement, over the US Administration's willingness to make the deal that Russia wanted. The ultimatum that Russia put to Zelinsky at the beginning of the war before its unlawful invasion. Here's the headline from Politico. In Europe, Moscow's media gloats over US Russia talks as this account explains, War criminal. Putin is having a fantastic week. We have no clue how the so called peace agreement will play out or what's next for the war. But one thing's clear. Putin is getting legitimized, his atrocities conveniently forgotten. Is the rest of the world fine with this? Professor Michael McFaul says the following. So Putin is apparently insisting that Ukraine hold new elections. Phase two, allegedly of a peaceful peace plan. Phase one is a cease fire before real negotiations on a settlement begin. The US should agree as long as Russia holds a free and fair presidential election. To Professor McFaul then says, As I predicted last night, the main goal of the Russian delegation in Riyadh was to restart US Russia relations. They've already achieved their goal. And so Russia is ecstatic that the Trump regime has legitimized the Putin regime. As Phillips O'Brien says, I hope people understands what we are seeing here. However, Trump and Putin are preparing a common plan to dictate to Ukraine. Ukraine will surprise them. At least Trump by refusing the war will continue. The role of Europe will become decisive. Here was a press conference that Donald Trump gave yesterday while vacationing in Mar a Lago because apparently Donald Trump doesn't even work in Walmart Washington D.C. anymore. He was asked the following question. How would you guard against Russia installing a puppet government in Ukraine? And then Donald Trump blames Ukraine for the beginning of the war. Here, play this clip.
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Hailee Steinfeld
How would you counter the perception? Because Russia is pushing for this. Obviously they don't really hold true elections. That that would be a capitulation of some sort. How would you guard against potentially Russia installing a puppet government? And then finally, how would that new election have an impact on getting Zelensky to sign the rare earth minerals deal?
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Donald Trump
Look, you have leadership and I like him personally, he's fine. But I don't care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that's allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States. Look, we had a president who was grossly incompetent. He had no idea what he was doing. He said some very stupid things like going in for portions and all of the things. He made a lot of bad statements. But he's grossly incompetent And I think everyone knew that this is something that should have never happened, would have never happened. And I used to discuss it with Putin, President Putin and I would talk about Ukraine. It was the apple of his eye, I will tell you that. But there was never a chance of him going in. And I told him, you better not go in, don't go in, don't go in. And he understood that. He understood it fully. But I'm only interested, I want to see if I can save maybe millions of lives. This could even end up in a World War iii. I mean, to be honest with you, you've been hearing now Europe is saying, well, I think we're going to go in and we're going to go, all of a sudden you're going to end up in World War Three.
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Ben Meiselas
Donald Trump was asked if you have a message for Ukrainians who feel betrayed. Play this clip.
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Donald Trump
Yeah, please.
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Ben Meiselas
Do you have any message for Ukrainians who after three years of fighting might feel betrayed or disappointed at not having a seat at these initial talks in Saudi Arabia?
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Donald Trump
Well, I think I'm really disappointed in what's happened. I've been watching this for three years. It's a war that would have never happened if I was president. And I've been watching these, these, you know, people being Killed at levels that you've rarely seen, not even close since the Second World War. And I'm very disappointed. I hear that, you know, they're upset about not having a seat. Well, they've had a seat for three years and a long time before that. This could have been settled very easily. Just a half, a half baked negotiator could have settled this years ago without, I think without the loss of much land, very little land, without the loss of any lives and without the loss of cities that are just laying on their side. You have those magnificent golden domes that are shattered, will never be replaced. You can't replace them. Thousand year old domes that are so beautiful, you can't replace that. The whole civilization has changed because of what. So when they're worried about not being seated, you mean somebody that should have gone in and made a deal a long time ago, you could have made a deal. This is one that could have made a deal. There was no talk of this during the Trump administration. Putin would have never, ever done it. And by the way, we wouldn't have had October 7th, you know that. We wouldn't have had October 7th either in Israel and we wouldn't have that mess that's going on over there. It's like we have great fire people here. We're putting out fires all over the world. We're putting out fires. So that wouldn't have happened. And you know what else wouldn't have happened? Inflation. Because it was caused really by the cost of energy going through the roof because of their bad energy policies and also their spending, their terrible spending, wasteful spending on the green news. Scam. It's a scam. It's a whole big scam. Yeah, please.
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Ben Meiselas
Again, what a dastardly, despicable, disgusting statement by the menace that is Donald Trump running the authoritarian regime here, Putin's puppet in the United States of America. And to see the weak, spineless Secretary of State of the United States, Marco Rubio, hyping how he wants to do economic deals with Russia. All I say to these spineless Republicans who pretend to be Russian hawks is take a look at what's going on here. And this is you. You are complicit in this. Here, play this clip.
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Professor Michael McFaul
The diplomatic one is one we think we hope to move pretty quickly on because this involves the treatment of our respective miss the second one will be difficult, which is the question of Ukraine and the end of that conflict. But I think that's essential in order for the third piece to even be possible, which is our ability to work together on other geopolitical matters of common interest and, of course, some pretty unique, potentially historic economic partnerships as well. The key that unlocks the door for those opportunities, however, is the end to.
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Ben Meiselas
This conflict in terms of finally, Professor McFaul explains the following apparently Trump's team offered Putin one Ukrainian territory to no NATO membership for Ukraine three no US soldiers in Ukraine for the withdrawal of US soldiers from Europe, including from frontline states and five sanctions relief. Putin's return offer absolutely nothing right there. Zelinsky's powerful words, though, remain what I shared with you at the beginning. If we didn't accept such ultimatums in our hardest moments, why would we now? I'm Ben Meiselas reporting from the Midas Touch Network. Let's get to 5 million subscribers together. Thank you for watching. Can't get enough Midas? Check out the Midas substack for ad free articles, reports, podcasts, daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski and more. Sign up for free now@midasplus.com.