Trump Goes Silent on Thursday after Nightmare Scenario

Summary

The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: Trump Goes Silent on Thursday after Nightmare Scenario
Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

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Overview

This episode centers on the fallout from newly released emails connecting Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein, exploring Trump’s unusually extended silence on social media, and analyzing the political, legal, and public opinion ramifications of recent events. The Meiselas brothers, blending their characteristic humor, analysis, and democratic advocacy, break down the impact of these revelations on Trump's approval ratings, his administration's internal turmoil, and the larger consequences for the Republican party.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Unusual Silence and Epstein Email Revelations

• For the first time in recent memory, Trump refrained from posting on social media for over 21 hours.
• The last post referenced the “Jeffrey Epstein hoax” and accused Democrats of diversion tactics ([01:00]).
• Newly released emails from Epstein’s estate allegedly place Trump in close contact with Epstein and his victims.
  • Notable Moment: Emails from Epstein’s brother mockingly question Trump's trustworthiness around young girls ([01:15]).

Quote:

"This is how Epstein and his brother were talking about Donald Trump. Don’t trust Trump with little girls. When Epstein was running a child sex trafficking ring that Donald Trump and Republicans are covering up right now. The fact that I even have to say that in a sentence..."
— Progressive Political Commentator ([01:30])

2. Poll Data and Public Opinion Crash

• CNN’s Sarah Seidner discusses Trump’s plummeting approval ratings, with a staggering -39 net approval on the Epstein case ([02:58]).
  • Other issues like immigration, economy, and foreign policy are underwater but less extreme.

Quote:

“But look at the Epstein case. He is 39 points below water on the Epstein case. His net approval is 39 points in the negative. My goodness gracious, what Donald Trump has been selling on the Epstein files, the Epstein case, the American people, simply put, have not been buying at all."
— Sarah Seidner ([03:17])

• Additional Navigator poll data show Americans blame Republicans for current economic pain points:
  • 47% blame GOP for rising healthcare premiums, only 21% blame Democrats.
  • Similar patterns for inflation and electricity costs ([03:41]).

3. Economic Fallout: Tourism and the Canada Boycott

• Discussion of Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric about Canada, leading to a severe decline in Canadian tourism and property sales in the U.S. ([03:50]).
• Billions lost in key U.S. tourist economies; Vegas particularly impacted.

Quote:

“Vegas is being severely harmed. Tourist sectors across the country are being severely harmed. Canadians getting rid of their homes... They don’t want to be in a place where the leader is an authoritarian who wants to conquer them.”
— Progressive Political Commentator ([04:45])

4. Escalation Between Legal Figures & Epstein Cover-Up Claims

• A heated exchange between George Conway (lawyer/critic) and Todd Blanche (former Trump attorney, now Deputy AG) over Ghislaine Maxwell’s questioning ([05:15]).
  • Conway criticizes Blanche for inadequate questioning and suggests DOJ is complicit in a cover-up.
  • Blanche claims lack of access to necessary documents, Conway retorts with accusations of professional incompetence.

Quote:

“George, you’ve never been confused for a trial lawyer... when I interviewed Maxwell, law enforcement didn’t have the materials Epstein’s estate hid for years and only just provided to Congress. Stop talking. It’s unbecoming.”
— Todd Blanche ([07:10])

“Dude, you didn’t even come close to asking a decent follow up question to Maxwell. And I saw you at your boss’s criminal trial… you couldn’t cross examine your way out of a paper bag.”
— George Conway ([08:33])

5. Labor, Government Data Suppression, and Economic Truth-Twisting

• Trump’s own businesses saw record applications for foreign labor in 2025, despite populist messaging ([11:15]).
• Kevin Hassett (Trump’s economic advisor) suggests the government will be unable to accurately provide labor statistics due to firings at the Bureau of Labor Statistics ([12:33]).
  • Instead, future economic data might be “concocted” ([12:51]).

Quote:

“It is true that we probably will, will never, will be maybe be able to concoct something that will never actually know for sure what the unemployment rate was.”
— Guest Expert (Kevin Hassett) ([13:00])

6. Legal Ramifications and DOJ Suppression of Epstein-Trump Evidence

• Detailed discussion about the Department of Justice not releasing the most incriminating Epstein emails related to Trump.
  • Only neutral or already-public material was turned over ([14:00]).
  • Emphasis on the pattern of deliberate withholding of evidence by federal authorities.

Quote:

“The Department of Justice has not released any of these emails that mention Trump's name and that identify his role in all these activities. Those came from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein instead. So this is a demonstration that the government is very deliberately withholding the information that everybody is actually looking for.”
— Legal Analyst ([15:10])

7. Wrap-Up and Promise of Further Analysis

• The hosts assure listeners they will continue to update on developments, encourage engagement, and promote support for independent media ([15:48]).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Don’t trust Trump with little girls…” — Email between Epstein and his brother ([01:19])
• “His net approval is 39 points in the negative. My goodness gracious…” — Sarah Seidner, CNN ([03:24])
• “Vegas is being severely harmed. Tourist sectors across the country are being severely harmed…” — Progressive Political Commentator ([04:50])
• “Dude, you didn’t even come close to asking a decent follow up question to Maxwell…” — George Conway ([08:47])
• “The point is that the Department of Justice has not released any of these emails that mention Trump's name...” — Legal Analyst ([15:10])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Trump’s 24-hour social media silence & Epstein emails | 01:00 | | Epstein’s brother: “Would you trust this man with your daughter?”| 01:19 | | CNN approval ratings breakdown (Sarah Seidner) | 02:58 | | Economic blame poll results | 03:41 | | Canada boycott & tourism falloff | 03:50 | | George Conway vs. Todd Blanche exchange | 05:15 | | Trump’s foreign worker hypocrisy | 11:15 | | Data suppression & economic “concoction” (Kevin Hassett) | 12:51 | | DOJ’s Epstein file withholding discussed | 14:00 | | Closing remarks and next steps | 15:48 |

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By blending exposé-style reporting, pointed legal and political commentary, and moments of biting humor, the MeidasTouch team gives listeners a detailed, accessible snapshot of a critical week in American political scandal and its mushrooming fallout. The episode provides both news and the context behind the headlines, making it essential listening for concerned citizens and political-watchers alike.

Transcript

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[Progressive Political Commentator]

Donald Trump has gone silent. He's basically disappeared today. His last social media post was from 21 hours ago where he posted in other words, the Democrats are using the Jeffrey Epstein hoax to try to deflect from their massive failures, in particular their most recent one, the shutdown. Exclamation point. No other post by Donald Trump in a 24 hour period. And and of course we're hearing their panicking behind the scenes as even more emails are expected to drop. That will be even more devastating than this 20,000 email drop from the Epstein estate which shows all of these links to Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein and Epstein saying that Trump basically knew everything that was going down. Here's how they're reporting about it in the uk. New emails reveal Trump spent hours with Epstein victim. By the way, how about this email right here that isn't really getting a lot of attention. Jeffrey Epstein's brother emailed this to Epstein. A photo of Donald Trump with the words would you trust this man with your daughter? This is how Epstein and his brother were talking about Donald Trump. Don't trust Trump with little girls. When Epstein was running a child sex trafficking ring that Donald Trump and Republicans are covering up right now. The fact that I even have to say that in a sentence. This right here is how they're talking about Trump's sinking approval. Total disapproval, I should just call it. He's despised, hated by Americans. Here's what they're saying on CNN right now.

[Political Analyst]

Let me show you this again and again. What does the American public think about how Donald Trump has been handling the Epstein files compared to all the other issues that he brought up during the campaign.

[Sarah Seidner]

Yeah, you know, Donald Trump is underwater on basically every single issue he ran on in 2024. But the Epstein files, the Epstein case, are especially dreadful for him. What are we talking about here? Let's take a look at Trump's not approval rating on the issue. Look, they're all in red. They're all in the negative territory. But on immigration, you know, he's 5 points underwater. Foreign policy, 8 points. Trade in tariffs, he's 17 points. The economy, 18. But look at the Epstein case. He is 39 points below water on the Epstein case. His Net approval is 39 points in the negative. My goodness gracious, what Donald Trump has been selling on the Epstein files, the Epstein case, the American people, simply put, have not been buying at all. Sarah Seidner.

[Progressive Political Commentator]

Yeah, I mean, it's getting bad and bad. This Trump regime is in freefall. So here's the latest Navigator poll. Who do you blame for health care premiums going up? Overwhelmingly Republicans. People blame Republicans 47%. Only 21% of Americans blame Democrats. Who do you blame for costs in general going up? Only 21% blame. Only 19% blame Democrats. 46% blame Republicans. Who do you blame for your electricity prices going up? Only 19%. Democrats 38% for Republicans. You know, it's not just the prices going up. You have so many sectors of our country in a recession right now. Tourism in a great recession, perhaps even a depression. As the Canada boycott is going strong. Canadian travel to the US has declined for the 10th straight month. The drop has been reflected in air and car trav level, according to Canadian statistics, based on Donald Trump saying he wants to conquer Canada and make it the 51st state. America is literally losing tens of billions of dollars in tourism. Vegas is being severely harmed. Tourist sectors across the country are being severely harmed. Canadians getting rid of their homes, getting rid of their vacation spots. They don't want to be in a place where the leader is an authoritarian who wants to conquer them and where if they show up, they can get put into concentration camps and gassed or severely harmed by the Trump Gestapo. Hat tip to California Governor Gavin Newsom. He's just been trolling Donald Trump. While Donald Trump's in hiding. Governor Newsom has been out there attacking, going on the offense. Governor Newsom put the following I am a pedo in gold letters in that walk of fame ridiculous area that Donald Trump's created in the White House. I found this exchange to be interesting between Our friend George Conway and Donald Trump's former criminal defense attorney turned number two at the Department of Justice, the Deputy AG Todd Blanche. Blanche was the guy who did that interview of Ghislaine Maxwell that was recorded in Tallahassee. Then shortly thereafter, Ghislaine was transferred to the minimum security facility as the clear quid pro quo to shut her up from talking about what she knows about Donald Trump. And we saw in those 20,000 emails she knows everything. And we know that she lied in that deposit, that deposition, in that interview with Todd Blanche. And Blanche didn't ask follow up questions. So George Conway was mocking Todd Blanche and said an important side note about today's Trump revelations. They show that Todd Blanches questioning Elaine Maxwell was horrible. Like that he was the worst question or either it was intentional or he's the worst lawyer. Now Todd Blanche took that as a sign of professional disrespect and Todd Blanche bought the bait or bit into the bait, whatever. And here's what he said. George, you've never been confused for a trial lawyer. And these kinds of posts explain why when I interviewed Maxwell, law enforcement didn't have the materials Epstein's estate hid for years and only just provided to Congress. Stop talking. It's unbecoming. It's unbecoming. Few things there, Todd. I think it's unbecoming number one, that you and Trump and the Republicans are involved in a ppp, a pedo protection program. You're covering up a child sex trafficking ring in my opinion is what you're by not releasing the files do the Epstein files are available to you. So you could have gone through the actual files and cross examined her on that. You could have looked at the trial transcripts and cross examined her on the inconsistencies by looking at her trial where she was convicted of child sex trafficking. Did you ever think about that? You could have brought into the room the line prosecutors. Oh wait, you fired her because it was Comey's daughter who was the prosecutor. It you've never had an interview. The doj FBI never does interviews where the actual people who know the most aren't in the room. And you wouldn't let those people be in the room. You've actually fired the sex trafficking prosecutors or Trump did. And why didn't you get these files from the Epstein estate? They weren't hiding it, they were just asked for it. You're the doj, they're not allowed to hide it from you. So just more lying and gaslighting from the Trump regime. George Conway goes Dude, you didn't even come close to asking a decent follow up question to Maxwell. And I saw you at your boss's criminal trial. You know, the one where he was convicted of on 34 felony counts. You couldn't cross examine your way out of a paper bag. Smiley face emoji from George Conway. Also, isn't this an admission from Todd Blanche that Delaine was lying to him? Now that he has the data, now that he has the documents, seems that it's an admission that she lied. So what are the repercussions? Right? We'll talk about this more today when we get the outcome. But Trump's personal lawyer turned top federal prosecutor who's never been a federal prosecutor in her life, Lindsey Halligan. She had. There's a big hearing today regarding her disqualification potentially for being an unlawfully appointed United States Attorney. We'll keep you posted on that, of course.

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[Progressive Political Commentator]

Learning more about why Donald Trump continues to say that Americans can't do the jobs that foreign workers can, which is off his MAGA base. As Trump defends foreign workers. Now, his company sought a record number of foreign workers through H2A and H2B visas, according to the Department of Labor. Trump's never sought as many foreign laborers as he has in 2025 this year. 184. That's up from 121 in 2021. And he's hired a total of 566 foreign workers in the past five years alone. It's interesting. And the Trump Organization is not big, so that's actually a pretty big number because it's a pretty small organization when you think about it just going into what the spiral that they're having on the Trump's cabinet members and top advisors. You have Kevin Hassett, Trump's top economic advisor, basically saying they're not going to be able to publish the Consumer Price Index, the CPI and inflation data. They may try to concoct it, but they're trying to blame the shutdown about why they don't have good data. And they'll probably never give us any data again or good data again because.

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[Progressive Political Commentator]

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[Guest Expert]

And the household survey wasn't conducted in October, so we're going to get half the employment report. We'll get the jobs part, but we won't get the unemployment rate. And that'll just be for one month. But yeah, it is true that we probably will, will never will be maybe be able to concoct something that will never actually know for sure what the unemployment rate was.

[Progressive Political Commentator]

And then I think Jamie Raskin, Democratic Congress member, ties it all together about what really is going on with the fact that the Epstein emails versus the DOJ documents that have been released about Epstein, which are the old documents, one has all this stuff about Trump in it. The other is just old files. And we know that, which we've already seen before. And we know that the files that are currently in the DOJ's possession will be absolutely devastating to Donald Trump. Here, let me just play this clip for you.

[Guest Expert]

Let's, let's go here.

[Political Analyst]

Let's play it give us an update as well about others who may have information and that could be prison mates of Ghislaine Maxwell. I mean, give us an update on that and what the committee is thinking about how to talk to these people.

[Legal Analyst]

Well, the thing that really struck me so intensely yesterday was all of these emails saying things like, of course Trump knew about the girls and tried to get Maxwell to stop. And we don't know if that means to stop stealing girls from Trump at his hotel and taking them into their operation or stop being involved with Epstein. We don't know exactly what it means, but there's all kinds of emails that indicate that Donald Trump was perfectly situated, know what was going on and in Scottsden, that whole culture. After all, Epstein was his best friend for more than 10 years. Although Epstein said very mocking, derisive things about Trump in some of these emails, saying that he was, you know, borderline deranged and demented and, you know, talked about how stupid he was and so on. But in any event, we know from these emails that Trump was aware of everything going on and the Department of Justice must have these same emails and yet none of them were released by the Department of Justice and these huge tranches of material that were sent over, including completely irrelevant press releases from many years ago and all of this flotsam and jetsam stuff. But the point is that the Department of Justice has not released any of these emails that mention Trump's name and that identify his role in all these activities. Those came from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein instead. So this is a demonstration that the government is very deliberately withholding the information that everybody is actually looking for in anything that could be damaging the Trump.

[Progressive Political Commentator]

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