The MeidasTouch Podcast
Episode: Trump Goes Silent on Thursday after Nightmare Scenario
Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Overview
This episode centers on the fallout from newly released emails connecting Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein, exploring Trump’s unusually extended silence on social media, and analyzing the political, legal, and public opinion ramifications of recent events. The Meiselas brothers, blending their characteristic humor, analysis, and democratic advocacy, break down the impact of these revelations on Trump's approval ratings, his administration's internal turmoil, and the larger consequences for the Republican party.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Trump’s Unusual Silence and Epstein Email Revelations
- For the first time in recent memory, Trump refrained from posting on social media for over 21 hours.
- The last post referenced the “Jeffrey Epstein hoax” and accused Democrats of diversion tactics ([01:00]).
- Newly released emails from Epstein’s estate allegedly place Trump in close contact with Epstein and his victims.
- Notable Moment: Emails from Epstein’s brother mockingly question Trump's trustworthiness around young girls ([01:15]).
Quote:
"This is how Epstein and his brother were talking about Donald Trump. Don’t trust Trump with little girls. When Epstein was running a child sex trafficking ring that Donald Trump and Republicans are covering up right now. The fact that I even have to say that in a sentence..."
— Progressive Political Commentator ([01:30])
2. Poll Data and Public Opinion Crash
- CNN’s Sarah Seidner discusses Trump’s plummeting approval ratings, with a staggering -39 net approval on the Epstein case ([02:58]).
- Other issues like immigration, economy, and foreign policy are underwater but less extreme.
Quote:
“But look at the Epstein case. He is 39 points below water on the Epstein case. His net approval is 39 points in the negative. My goodness gracious, what Donald Trump has been selling on the Epstein files, the Epstein case, the American people, simply put, have not been buying at all."
— Sarah Seidner ([03:17])
- Additional Navigator poll data show Americans blame Republicans for current economic pain points:
- 47% blame GOP for rising healthcare premiums, only 21% blame Democrats.
- Similar patterns for inflation and electricity costs ([03:41]).
3. Economic Fallout: Tourism and the Canada Boycott
- Discussion of Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric about Canada, leading to a severe decline in Canadian tourism and property sales in the U.S. ([03:50]).
- Billions lost in key U.S. tourist economies; Vegas particularly impacted.
Quote:
“Vegas is being severely harmed. Tourist sectors across the country are being severely harmed. Canadians getting rid of their homes... They don’t want to be in a place where the leader is an authoritarian who wants to conquer them.”
— Progressive Political Commentator ([04:45])
4. Escalation Between Legal Figures & Epstein Cover-Up Claims
- A heated exchange between George Conway (lawyer/critic) and Todd Blanche (former Trump attorney, now Deputy AG) over Ghislaine Maxwell’s questioning ([05:15]).
- Conway criticizes Blanche for inadequate questioning and suggests DOJ is complicit in a cover-up.
- Blanche claims lack of access to necessary documents, Conway retorts with accusations of professional incompetence.
Quote:
“George, you’ve never been confused for a trial lawyer... when I interviewed Maxwell, law enforcement didn’t have the materials Epstein’s estate hid for years and only just provided to Congress. Stop talking. It’s unbecoming.”
— Todd Blanche ([07:10])
“Dude, you didn’t even come close to asking a decent follow up question to Maxwell. And I saw you at your boss’s criminal trial… you couldn’t cross examine your way out of a paper bag.”
— George Conway ([08:33])
5. Labor, Government Data Suppression, and Economic Truth-Twisting
- Trump’s own businesses saw record applications for foreign labor in 2025, despite populist messaging ([11:15]).
- Kevin Hassett (Trump’s economic advisor) suggests the government will be unable to accurately provide labor statistics due to firings at the Bureau of Labor Statistics ([12:33]).
- Instead, future economic data might be “concocted” ([12:51]).
Quote:
“It is true that we probably will, will never, will be maybe be able to concoct something that will never actually know for sure what the unemployment rate was.”
— Guest Expert (Kevin Hassett) ([13:00])
6. Legal Ramifications and DOJ Suppression of Epstein-Trump Evidence
- Detailed discussion about the Department of Justice not releasing the most incriminating Epstein emails related to Trump.
- Only neutral or already-public material was turned over ([14:00]).
- Emphasis on the pattern of deliberate withholding of evidence by federal authorities.
Quote:
“The Department of Justice has not released any of these emails that mention Trump's name and that identify his role in all these activities. Those came from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein instead. So this is a demonstration that the government is very deliberately withholding the information that everybody is actually looking for.”
— Legal Analyst ([15:10])
7. Wrap-Up and Promise of Further Analysis
- The hosts assure listeners they will continue to update on developments, encourage engagement, and promote support for independent media ([15:48]).
Notable Quotes & Moments
- “Don’t trust Trump with little girls…” — Email between Epstein and his brother ([01:19])
- “His net approval is 39 points in the negative. My goodness gracious…” — Sarah Seidner, CNN ([03:24])
- “Vegas is being severely harmed. Tourist sectors across the country are being severely harmed…” — Progressive Political Commentator ([04:50])
- “Dude, you didn’t even come close to asking a decent follow up question to Maxwell…” — George Conway ([08:47])
- “The point is that the Department of Justice has not released any of these emails that mention Trump's name...” — Legal Analyst ([15:10])
Timestamps for Key Segments
| Segment | Timestamp | |------------------------------------------------------------------|-----------| | Trump’s 24-hour social media silence & Epstein emails | 01:00 | | Epstein’s brother: “Would you trust this man with your daughter?”| 01:19 | | CNN approval ratings breakdown (Sarah Seidner) | 02:58 | | Economic blame poll results | 03:41 | | Canada boycott & tourism falloff | 03:50 | | George Conway vs. Todd Blanche exchange | 05:15 | | Trump’s foreign worker hypocrisy | 11:15 | | Data suppression & economic “concoction” (Kevin Hassett) | 12:51 | | DOJ’s Epstein file withholding discussed | 14:00 | | Closing remarks and next steps | 15:48 |
By blending exposé-style reporting, pointed legal and political commentary, and moments of biting humor, the MeidasTouch team gives listeners a detailed, accessible snapshot of a critical week in American political scandal and its mushrooming fallout. The episode provides both news and the context behind the headlines, making it essential listening for concerned citizens and political-watchers alike.