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Donald Trump (Interviewee)
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Donald Trump (Interviewee)
I honestly didn't see this coming.
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Spotify this was a disastrous landing back to Florida as Donald Trump fled Washington, dc. This is the height of Donald Trump being deranged while he was on Air Force One. He was asked, hey Donald, people are heading into Thanksgiving feeling very worried. Will you just agree to extend the Affordable Care act subsidies so people aren't worried that they're going to lose their health care? Donald. And he goes, nope, I don't want that. I don't want to extend the health care subsidies. I don't like that at all. I don't want to do it. Watch what he says on Air Force One. Play this clip.
Reporter/Interviewer
Are you planning to extend those subsidies?
Podcast Host
Those.
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
I'd rather not. Somebody said, I want to extend them for two years. They don't want to extend them for two years. I'd rather not extend them at all. Maybe some kind of an extension may be necessary to get something else done because the Unaffordable Care act has been a disaster. It's a disaster. And I said it was when it first got unfortunately, we lost a couple of Republican votes and the Democrats voted for it. It's a Democrat plan and the premiums are going up and it's the Democrats fault. But, you know, they are negotiating with me. It's very interesting. They want to see something happen.
Reporter/Interviewer
Who are you talking to on the Democrats?
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
I can't tell you who, but we have a lot of Democrats want this plan to happen. They would love to see the money go to the people and the people go out and get their own health care. And there would be nothing like it.
Podcast Host
As Congresswoman Kathy Castor says, got it right before Thanksgiving. Health care for 20 million Americans isn't your priority on your way to your resort that's being funded by the taxpayers. Then Donald Trump is asked a question about Ukraine. Do you think that Ukraine was being asked to give up too much land back to Russia? Basically all of eastern Ukraine? Then Donald Trump just spews the Russian propaganda, which shouldn't surprise us at this point because Trump and his whole regime is compromised by Putin. And Donald Trump says, I don't think so. One way or another, he says Putin's going to take over Ukraine regardless. So I guess Ukraine can do whatever it wants. Here. Play this clip.
Reporter/Interviewer
Do you think, do you think that Russia, that Ukraine was being asked to give too much land back to Russia? I know at one point you said that we shouldn't have to give any back.
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
It's really up. Look the way it's going. If you look, it's just moving in one direction. So eventually that's land that over the next couple of months might be gotten by Russia anyway. So do you want to fight and lose another 50, 60,000 people or do you want to do something now, in some cases, the land is going in the other direction. So they're negotiating, they're trying to get it done. You want to have a border. You can't have a border that goes through a highway or border that goes through the middle of a town. So it doesn't work. So it's a long, it's a long, complicated process. Very sad, because so many people are being killed.
Podcast Host
And it should be noted that Ukraine has repelled Russia, by and large, from when the initial invasion took place. And Russia has barely taken territory, thanks to the courage of the incredible Ukrainian army. Notwithstanding Donald Trump's effort each and every time to represent the interest of Putin, to try to topple Zelensky. But Zelensky and his European allies have stayed strong. Another reporter asked Donald Trump, so are you going to unveil a health care plan anytime soon? Because, again, the American people are worried. And you keep on saying two weeks, you've been saying that since your first administration. Then Donald Trump goes, well, we're looking into concepts, we're looking into alternatives to Obamacare. And he goes, you know, I just think that we just don't, we should just not pay insurance companies. That's my plan. Let's just give people a check. That's not even a plan. What does that even mean? Do you know the way health insurance works? What happens? Let's just say you give somebody a $2,000 check and then the healthc cost is tens of thousands of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars or potentially millions of dollars with a procedure, then what do you do? Do you not even know the way health insurance works? Do you not even understand the way risk pools work? You don't, because you've never had to deal with these issues in your life because you were born with a golden spoon in your mouth. While the American people have had to deal with this, you're so out of touch in your con artist fraud land that you don't know what the American people go through Here, play this clip.
Reporter/Interviewer
Mr. President, are you planning to unveil.
Commentator/Analyst
A health care plan anytime soon in one?
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
Well, we're looking at different alternatives. I mean, I like my plan the best. Don't give any money to the insurance companies. Give it to the people directly. Let them go out, buy their own health care plan. And we're looking at that. If that can work, we're looking at that. That's sort of taken off. That's what I like. Don't give the money to the insurance companies. They go out. They go out and buy Their own plan. You give the money to the people. I like it the best.
Podcast Host
So then a reporter asked Donald Trump, are you worried that Witkoff may be a little bit too pro Russian? And this question also follows that incredible Bloomberg report. Those reporters at Bloomberg are getting incredible scoops. They got that October 14th audio of Witkoff and some of the top Putin officials. I'll get to more of that in just a moment. Where Witkoff was rooting for Putin in him, he was basically serving the interests of Putin. He was telling him, here's what you gotta say to Donald Trump, here's how you gotta do it. And it was clear from the audio that this, that the so called peace plan was a surrender plan handed over by Russia. I mean, we actually have the transcript where Russia hands over the plan. Here's what Donald Trump says, though. He goes, nah, I'm not worried about Wycoff. He goes, that's how you negotiate deals. You go to this side, you go to that side. That's what deal making is all about. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
They're losing. They're losing too many people.
Reporter/Interviewer
Have you heard this audio that Bloomberg has of Wyckoff coaching the Russians on how to appeal to you?
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
I haven't heard it, no. But that's a standard thing, you know, because he's got to sell this to Ukraine. He's got to sell Ukraine to Russia. That's what he's, that's what a dealmaker does. You got to say, look, they want this. You've got to convince them of this. You know, that's a very standard form of negotiation. I haven't heard it, but I heard it was standard negotiation. And I would imagine he's saying the same thing to Ukraine because each party has to give and take.
Reporter/Interviewer
So you're not worried that he's too.
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
I think, look, this war could go on for years and Russia's got a lot more people, a lot more soldiers. So I think if Ukraine can make a deal, it's a good thing. I think it's great for both, frankly. I think it's great for both. But Ukraine's got a much smaller, it's a much smaller group of people. They've lost a lot of people. Russia's lost a lot of people, but Russia has a much bigger pool of people.
Podcast Host
I think it's important to note that Donald Trump is actually the worst deal maker. He's not a builder, he's a destroyer. Just think about all the companies he's bankrupted. Casino after casino, company after company in his Past. Heck, if you don't want to look at his past, why don't you look at his present? The Trump meme coin has crashed. Trump media has crashed and he's doing the same thing with our economy. And that's what pisses me off so much. It pisses me off that he hurt so many employees and there have been so many victims of his cons. But now it's the American people who have been victimized by this. And now I just wanted to talk briefly about that Bloomberg report. Everybody should read this article. You take a look at this Transcript of this October 14th call between Witkoff and Putin's top aide, Yuri Ushakov. And you have Steve Witkoff saying this now me to you, Yuri, I know what it's going to take to get a peace field done. Don't ask. And maybe a land swap somewhere. The hell are you talking about? You want to take away Ukrainian land and give it to Russia? How about this right here? You should call to Dmitriev. Remember how we've been for weeks here on the Midas Touch Network reporting about Kirill Dmitriev, the head of Russia's sovereign wealth fund who's been hanging out in Miami at the Feena Hotel with the MAGA Republican Congress members and we said that he was the guy along with Ushakov who laundered that 28 point Russian surrender plan to Ukraine that Trump gave and basically translated. You've seen our reporting on it. Well, it's confirmed by Bloomberg right here. Ushakov goes on this call with Ushakov, Dmitriev and Wyckoff, who's basically serving Russia like Trump and Wyckoff are serving Russia. Ushakov goes well, we need the maximum, don't you think? What do you think? Otherwise what's the point of passing anything on referring to the plan? Dmitriev no, look, I think we'll just make the paper from our position and I'll informally pass it along, making it clear it's all informal and let them do like their own. But I don't think they'll take exactly our version, but at least it'll be as close to it as possible. Ushakov well, that's exactly the point. They may not take and say that it was agreed with us. That's what I'm afraid of. Dmitriev no, no, no, I'll say it exactly as you say it, word for word. Ushakov they might twist it later. That's all. There is that risk there is. Well, all right, never mind. We'll see. DMITRI yeah, it seems to Me. You can talk later with Steve about this. Paper will do everything. Nearly. That's what it's. Just give Steve the plan. Just give Witkoff. Who's this? The envoy to Russia who's laundering Russia's plan in here. And by the way, do you remember yesterday morning when we woke up and all the corporate news headlines are like, ukraine agrees to a peace plan. Do you remember? And do you remember what we reported on the Midas Touch network? We said bs Stop saying US official says Ukraine time. You now say, US official says we know you're lying because the Trump regime lies about everything. And the US officials under the Trump regime can't be trusted with anything. Just like when they were like, we did a historic peace plan in the Middle East. Look, we did a historic peace deal between Israel and Hamas. No, you didn't. It was a ceasefire that lasted like 0 days. Israel and Hamas didn't agree to a 2 state. Israel didn't agree to a 2 state solution. Hamas didn't agree to disarm. They did. They weren't signatories. They didn't sign anything. I'm like, what are we even talking about here? This isn't even a good ceasefire. I mean, I'm glad the hostages were returned, but in terms of making the ceasefire durable. And then of course, it wasn't durable. And then the IDF killed hundreds of Palestinians. What are we talking about here? And Hamas never disarmed. It was such a predictable result. Same thing. What we're seeing with Russia's invasion of Ukraine. Stop making up that Ukraine's agreeing to things and Russia's agreeing to things. They're not. We know what's happening here. I mean, and by the way, more of that conversation. Steve Witkoff. Yuri Uri, here's what I would do. Here's my recommendation.
Commentator/Analyst
Yuri.
Podcast Host
Yuri. Yes, please. Steve. Steve Witkoff, I would make the call and just reiterate that you congratulate President Trump on his achievements, that you supported it, you support it, that you respect that he is a man of peace and you're just, you're really glad to have seen it happen. So I would say that I think from that it's going to be a really good call. Because let me tell you what I told President Trump. I told the President that you. That the Russian Federation has always wanted a peace deal. That's my belief. I told the President that and I believe it. That's what Witkoff was. Woodcoff's the guy. I keep doing this to my heart because Woodcoff's the Guy who would. He's visited, what, Putin like five times, and he puts his hand on his heart and he like, bows down to Putin. The same way Donald Trump rolled out the red carpet and made our military bend down on their knees like dogs in front of Putin. Like, how could you not be infuriated that Trump made our military get down on their knees like dogs and beg Vladimir Putin? It was the most roll out a red carpet for him. Are you kidding me? Have we lost all sense of our freaking minds that that's something that happens in our. And that Trump isn't impeached or thrown out for that? What have we become as a country, seriously, where Putin bootlickers under Donald Trump and Putin and Xi Jinping are laughing all the way along. One of those laughing Yuri Ushakov. Here we, we have the transcript. We have him laughing, Steve Witkoff, they're mocking Zelensky in the transcript. Witkoff goes, and here's one more thing. Zelinsky is coming to the White House on Friday. Yuri. I know that. And then they start laughing together. Laughing, mocking Zelensky. How horrible is this? How horrible. Going back to that disastrous landing of Donald Trump, the reporter asks, there were a lot of Republicans who felt the first 28 point plan was favorable to Russia. And Trump goes, that was a map. That was a concept. Dude, what the hell are you even talking about here? Play this clip.
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
Europe really wants to see it end, if possible.
Reporter/Interviewer
There were a lot of Republicans who felt that the, the first plan, first 28 point plan was too favorable to Russia. Have you changed?
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
Well, that was just a map. All that was is a map. That was not a plan, it was a concept. And from there, they're taking each one of the 28 points and then you get down to 22 points, a lot of them. And actually very favorably solved. So we'll see how, we'll see what happens.
Podcast Host
So a reporter asked Donald Trump, all right, so what's the next step here? What's the next step? And Trump like, well, Witkoff and Jared Kushner, they're gonna go meet with Putin in Russia. Okay. So that they're representing Putin's interest, obviously. Now here, play this clip.
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
Very sad, because so many people being killed.
Reporter/Interviewer
What's the next step?
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
They're gonna keep talking. They're talking to Russia now. Steve Witkoff is going over maybe with Jared. I'm not sure about Jared going, but he's involved in the process, smart guy. And they're going to be meeting with President Putin, I believe, next week in Moscow.
Reporter/Interviewer
Next week in Moscow?
Donald Trump (Interviewee)
I think so, yes.
Podcast Host
And if you want to know how out of touch this regime is, they then have Kevin Hassett, Trump's national economic advisor. He just keeps on digging and he goes, you know, lots of people have said, oh, when Walmart said that Thanksgiving is 25% cheaper, it's because they included 14 items instead of 21 items like last year. And they use generic names. Regular people eat generic food. Are they so out of touch that they're saying regular people don't eat generic food? Okay, Hassett, yes. Let's give the regular people, let's give the regular folk generic food. They get what, two dolls? Remember the two pens for school? Remember what Donald Trump said? Do you realize what you sound like? While all of you billionaires out there are, you know, don't have to worry about any of this. And you're just mocking the rest of us. Here, play this clip.
Commentator/Analyst
Favorite moments on a Sunday show. For me, last week was on one of the Sunday shows. You could look it up. I won't attack the poor fellow. That was the anchor. He criticized the fact that Walmart said that the Thanksgiving dinner is cheaper by, I think it was about $10 for a typical Thanksgiving dinner. And then he said, oh, yeah, but they substituted generic stuff as if like, like having a generic something is a crime for ordinary folks. It shows how out of touch these people are. I get to know.
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Just take a look at some of this other data right here, folks. The New York Fed talks about how the rejection rate for all types of credit, auto loans, credit cards, credit card limit increases, mortgage, mortgage refinancing over the past 12 months rose to a series high of 24.8%. That's not good. You don't want all of those rejection rates. How about you look at monthly payroll growth? Growth. Just compare Biden's to Trump's. For those listening on audio, I have a chart that shows under Biden, payrolls positive and generally high. Never a negative month under Trump, multiple negative months and payrolls low. Okay, pretty basic stuff right here. Inflation adjusted retail sales down from March 2021. And you just want to look at the Trump con artists right here. Here's another example of it. Remember when Trump said they were doing Trump Mobile? Remember the Trump Mobile company? They were gonna, they were gonna compete with Apple and change the way mobile phones are done. Well, the Trump mobile phone is nowhere to be found. After months of delay, just another announcement without anything at all. This guy's been so pathetic his whole life. And it just, as I've said it should have never be like a Democrat, Republican, Independent. I never used to even like politics growing up. For a long period of time. It's just this guy is a loser. He's a con artist, he's a criminal, he's a sexual abuser. He's an evil person. And he surrounds himself with evil and bad, bad people and other losers. And they are infecting this country with that hate, that evilness and that loser behavior. And that's the Trump regime. That's what pisses me off more than Democrat, Republican, Independent. It's that they're losers and they're criminals and they're covering up sex trafficking rings of children. These are bad human beings. Bad, bad people. And we here at the Midas Touch Network are going to do everything we can every day to call it out. Hit, subscribe. Let's get to 6 million. And thanks for watching. Thanks for watching. Be sure to add the Midas Touch podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcast for new updates every single day.
Episode: Trump Has Disaster Landing to Florida as Plans Collapse
Date: November 26, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett & Jordy Meiselas
This episode of the MeidasTouch Podcast dives into what the hosts describe as a “disastrous” return to Florida by Donald Trump, following a series of controversial decisions and public statements. The Meiselas brothers analyze Trump’s refusal to extend health care subsidies, his continual deference to Russian interests, and the unraveling of purported peace plans for Ukraine. The episode features audio clips from Trump’s recent interviews, reporting insights from Bloomberg, and sharp critiques of Trump’s record and ongoing influence. As always, the brothers blend humor, outrage, and a staunch defense of democracy throughout their discussion.
[02:28–03:45]
Trump, when questioned on Air Force One about extending Affordable Care Act subsidies (which would provide relief to millions over Thanksgiving), declines, blaming Democrats and calling the ACA a “disaster.”
Quote:
“Nope, I don’t want that. I don’t want to extend the health care subsidies. I don’t like that at all. I don’t want to do it.”
— Donald Trump ([02:45])
Hosts highlight how Trump’s priorities are self-serving, with Ben calling out:
“Health care for 20 million Americans isn’t your priority on your way to your resort that's being funded by the taxpayers.”
— Podcast Host ([03:59])
[03:59–05:32]
Trump is asked if Ukraine should give land to Russia; he responds by echoing Russian lines, suggesting the land will fall to Russia anyway and giving up is pragmatic.
Quote:
“It’s just moving in one direction. So eventually that's land that over the next couple of months might be gotten by Russia anyway. ... you want to have a border. ... It’s a long, complicated process. Very sad, because so many people are being killed.”
— Donald Trump ([04:51–05:32])
Hosts note that Ukraine has largely repelled Russia and that Trump’s stance is aligned with Putin, undermining Ukraine’s sovereignty.
[05:32–07:36]
When pressed on unveiling a replacement plan for the ACA, Trump again gives vague promises and proposes simply giving cash to citizens instead of insurance companies.
Quote:
“Don’t give any money to the insurance companies. Give it to the people directly. Let them go out, buy their own health care plan...that’s what I like.”
— Donald Trump ([07:10])
The hosts eviscerate the proposal, pointing out Trump’s lack of understanding of how health insurance and risk pools operate.
Quote:
“You don’t even know the way health insurance works... You’re so out of touch in your con artist fraud land that you don’t know what the American people go through.”
— Podcast Host ([07:36])
[07:36–09:43, 09:43–13:53]
The brothers discuss a new Bloomberg exposé revealing audio of Steve Witkoff and Russian officials, showing active coordination on a “peace plan” essentially designed by Russia and laundered through Trump’s circle.
Witkoff was advising Russian officials on how to present their plan to Trump and Ukraine. The transcript reveals mockery of Zelensky and suggests the plans are little more than surrender terms for Ukraine.
Quote:
“He’s telling them, here’s what you gotta say to Donald Trump, here’s how you gotta do it.”
— Podcast Host ([08:32])
Trump shrugs off these implications:
“That’s what a dealmaker does...each party has to give and take.”
— Donald Trump ([08:43])
[13:53–16:28]
“That was just a map. All that was, is a map. That was not a plan, it was a concept.”
— Donald Trump ([16:10])
[16:28–17:07]
[17:07–18:25]
“Are they so out of touch that they’re saying regular people don’t eat generic food?... Let’s give the regular people... generic food. They get what, two dolls? Remember the two pens for school? … Do you realize what you sound like?”
— Podcast Host ([17:56])
[18:25–end]
The hosts present data contrasting Biden and Trump labor market performance, criticizing Trump-era payroll lows.
The episode also mocks Trump’s failed business ventures, including the collapse of the “Trump meme coin,” “Trump Media,” and the never-launched “Trump Mobile,” arguing these reflect his broader legacy of mismanagement and grift.
The hosts express personal frustration and outrage at what they see as Trump’s corrosive effect on democracy and society, emphasizing their commitment to exposing corruption and defending democratic norms.
Quote:
“He’s a con artist, he’s a criminal, he’s a sexual abuser... They are infecting this country with that hate, that evilness and that loser behavior.”
— Podcast Host ([18:25])
On health care priorities:
“Health care for 20 million Americans isn’t your priority on your way to your resort that’s being funded by the taxpayers.”
— Podcast Host ([03:59])
On Trump’s Ukraine stance:
“It’s just moving in one direction. So eventually that's land that... might be gotten by Russia anyway.”
— Donald Trump ([04:51])
On Trump’s health care “plan”:
“Don’t give any money to the insurance companies. Give it to the people directly...”
— Donald Trump ([07:10])
On Russia plan “negotiations”:
“That’s what a dealmaker does...each party has to give and take.”
— Donald Trump ([08:43])
On economic disconnect:
“Are they so out of touch that they’re saying regular people don’t eat generic food?”
— Podcast Host ([17:56])
Summing up Trump’s effect:
“They are infecting this country with that hate, that evilness and that loser behavior. And that’s the Trump regime.”
— Podcast Host ([18:25])
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:28 | Trump refuses ACA subsidy extension; health care priorities | | 03:59 | Trump on Ukraine, parroting Russian lines | | 05:32 | Vague and unworkable Trump health care alternatives | | 07:36 | Bloomberg’s exposé of Russia “peace plan” and MAGA enablers | | 13:53 | Witkoff and Russian officials mock Ukraine, lay out strategy | | 16:10 | Trump downplays “Russia-friendly” nature of peace plan | | 16:45 | Trump names Witkoff and Kushner as envoys to Moscow | | 17:56 | Hassett/Walmart Thanksgiving economic commentary | | 18:25 | Data: Labor market, Trump failures, closing reflections |
The Meiselas brothers deliver their analysis with equal parts clarity, righteous indignation, and sarcastic humor, retaining their trademark blend of political insight and brotherly banter. Their criticisms of Trump are direct and unapologetic; their commentary sharply attuned to both the technical failures of recent policy moves and the broader moral and democratic consequences.
This summary captures the heart of the episode’s major revelations, arguments, and the passionate framing for which the MeidasTouch Podcast is known.