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Brett Meiselas
Very impressive, Ben. That's pretty good. Well, I'm good. I'm excited to have Jordy back on the show. I know the Midas Mighty has missed Jordy. Jordy back in good health. You're looking good. You feeling good?
Jordy Meiselas
Feeling great. Big bros. Feeling good, Ready to go. Good.
Brett Meiselas
Midas Mighty was worried about you, brothers. We hit 3 million subscribers yesterday on YouTube. I just want to send my thank you to everybody out there for making this possible and to let everyone know how important you are to this. All this is your 3 million subscribers as well. We are so grateful for the support for getting it out there and not even just for that 3 million number, but just the, the way this message is getting out so wide. You see now the corporate media begin to finally, in ways, like Ben was saying, cover some of these important issues that folks need to hear about. So I'm happy that our message is spreading far and wide. It's, it's awesome. It's, it's, it's such an incredible, incredible accomplishment. And thank you, thank you, thank you.
Ben Meiselas
Let's get into it right away and show the contrast. Oh, Jordy, did I, did you not say what's up?
Jordy Meiselas
No, I just wanted to say what's up?
Ben Meiselas
It was a bit of a different.
Jordy Meiselas
Intro we tossed to me, then we tossed it back to Brett. But I do, I do want to say this, really building on what Bret just said. I keep seeing people out there say, and they're being very kind. I'm seeing them say, hey, Jordy, congratulations to you and the brothers. And of course I say thank you. But also I say thank you. This movement, it's never been about the me. It's always been about the we, the collective we, the we the people, the we, the pro normal, the we, the pro democracy. And if we could be a beacon or an amplifier of pro democracy voices, you know, sign me up and put me in coach. I think I know we're doing an excellent job at that. But let me just reemphasize, you know, this movement, it's built on values and ideals and not a specific person or people, but rather guiding principles of how we all want to see our great nation thrive. And it's this community that's going to make sure that we get there, that we get to the place that we need to be as a country, not just for this generation, but for generations to come. And look, to quote one of our favorite phrases, now, we are not going back, Ben.
Ben Meiselas
We are not going back. We're moving forward. But I got to show you the contrast here because elections are about choices and there's really no both sides ism here. On the one hand, you have Donald Trump in Potterville, Michigan, talking about Al Capone. Let me show you Donald Trump's talking about Al Capone in Potterville. Play the clip.
Donald Trump
Said in the last year, I think I had nine indictments, far more than Alphonse Capone, who was quite well known in Chicago and the environs. He liked killing people, but he had nothing like me.
Ben Meiselas
Now Donald Trump talks about a beautiful young daughter. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
Thank you. Great job. What a beautiful young daughter. What a beautiful young daughter.
Ben Meiselas
Weird. Creepy. Especially from someone found liable of sexual assault. Especially someone who hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. Especially someone who said, Jeffrey Epstein is a great guy who likes women. On the younger side, Trump meant girls. Especially from someone who wished Ghislaine Maxwell well at her sex trafficking trial. Especially someone who employed people at Mar? A Lago who were later trafficked by Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. Or someone who was on Epstein's jet many, many times and on his list, the phone logs, the deposition transcripts. But I digress here. Donald Trump says that he's a great speaker because he speak long. Here. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
So bad. I saw her make a speech. It was so bad. And after they this was one of the greatest performances we've ever seen in our country. With me, I make a speech. I speak for two hours. Everybody loves It, I got thousands of people, by the way, outside trying to get in. I never, they never said, Trump's a great speaker. I don't even want that. But I must be a great speaker, right? I must. We got thousands of people.
Ben Meiselas
The speech was supposed to be about the economy. He was supposed to be addressing his economic policy, and that's what he's talking about. Then Donald Trump once again reiterates that he thinks it's better for donors of his to get Presidential Medal of Honors or to get the Medal of Freedom rather than get the Medal of Honor. He says that the Presidential Medal of Freedom better than the Medal of Honor, which is given for courage and war and often posthumously for soldiers who die in battle. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
I always say there are two awards is the Medal of Honor and oftentimes is posthumously where, you know, they're, they're not there. Oftentimes they've died in battle and they're getting the award. And then you have the civilian version, the Presidential Medal. And I always say, I'd rather get the Presidential Medal because the guys that came in, other than you and a few others, oftentimes they've suffered greatly. Right? They've suffered greatly or they're not around.
Ben Meiselas
So what is he just quadrupling down on that? I mean, after what he previously said about that, I mean, there's no mincing his words there, there. We'll talk a little bit later in the show about Donald Trump's campaign staff physically attacking someone who worked at the Arlington Cemetery. So Trump could film a photo op and a commercial at Arlington Cemetery during a wreath laying ceremony, which he was not allowed to do. And it's against the rules. But I digress here. Donald Trump says that nobody knows Vice President Kamala Harris's name. There's 19 different ways to say it, but he says Kamala is the one that sometimes people know. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
And nobody, nobody really knows her. They were doing something. The man on the street, they said, you know, Harris. Everyone say, who the hell is Harris? Nobody knows who Harris is. What's the vice president's name? They have no idea what the name is. Now, the name Kamala is a little complex. There's about 19 different ways of pronouncing it right. But Kamala is at least it's a name you sort of remember. You can't use Harris because nobody knows who the hell Harris is. Who's Harris? We want somebody they know. And, you know, one of the reasons they don't know she did a lousy job.
Ben Meiselas
You know, backstage, Donald Trump was interviewed by an NBC reporter. And then he later said on stage that this NBC reporter treated him very unfairly. What Donald Trump actually said to the reporter who asked him a good question is how is he going to vote on Florida's six week abortion ban? Donald Trump undercut his entire political party's platform and said that he will vote to overturn Florida's six week abortion ban. Let me show you this clip. Let's play.
Kamala Harris
And you want abortion to be a.
Ben Meiselas
States rights issue in Florida, the state.
Kamala Harris
That you are a resident of, there's an abortion related amendment on the ballot to overturn the six week ban in Florida. How are you going to vote on that?
Brett Meiselas
What?
Donald Trump
I think the sixth week is too short. It has to be more time. And so that's. And I've told them that I want more weeks.
Ben Meiselas
So you'll vote in favor of the amendment?
Donald Trump
I'm voting that. I am going to be voting that. We need more than six weeks. Look, just so you understand.
Ben Meiselas
And so that would seem to undercut everything his political party has said. Undercut everything that he said. And he was the person who overturned Roe v. Wade, which allowed for there to be these abortion bans in the first place. And there was a tragic stat that Vice President Kamala Harris talks about how just overwhelming in most states you have these abortion bans that have prevented women from having reproductive rights and autonomy over their own bodies. Let's compare what just took place though in Michigan at that speech that was supposed to be on the economy in Potterville. Vice President Kamala Harris was in Savannah, Georgia. And let's just talk about her saying that she's gonna focus on the middle class and working class families first. Let's play this clip.
Kamala Harris
And unlike Donald Trump, I will always put the middle class and working class families.
Ben Meiselas
Always.
Kamala Harris
I come from the middle class. I know what I'm talking about.
Ben Meiselas
Show you what happens when a protester interrupted. Let's play this clip.
Kamala Harris
Hold up for a second. Let me, let me just say something. Let me just say something. We are fighting for a democracy. Everyone has a right and should have their voices heard. I am speaking now. But on the subject, I will say this. The president and I are working around the clock. We have got to get a hostage deal done and get a ceasefire done now.
Ben Meiselas
Next, Vice President Kamala Harris talks about Project 2025. Let's play that clip.
Kamala Harris
And he would create a national anti abortion coordinator and force states to report on women's miscarriages and abortions. It's Right there in Project 2025. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Simply put, they are out of their minds.
Ben Meiselas
That's such a great line that she's been using over and over again. And here Vice President Kamala Harris fires up the crowd at the end of her speech. Let's.
Kamala Harris
So, Savannah, are you ready to make your voices heard?
Ben Meiselas
Do we believe in freedom?
Kamala Harris
Do we believe in opportunity? Do we believe in the promise of America? And are we ready to fight for it? And when we fight, God bless you and God bless the United States.
Ben Meiselas
Pitch perfect. Now I want to do one more comparison, then we'll tie it all together, give some commentary. I want to show the J.D. vance speech in Boston at the Firefighter Union Conference. J.D. vance was introduced and he was booed as he was introduced. I think we have that clip. Let's play that one. Much. Well, Semper fi, guys.
J.D. Vance
We got some. It sounds like we got some fans and some haters.
Ben Meiselas
That's okay. Yes. Calling the firefighters haters and then randomly saying semper Fi and calling them haters. That's an interesting tact and approach right there. Here he says that Trump and I are the most pro worker ticket in history. He gets booed again. Play this clip President Trump and I.
J.D. Vance
Are proud of to be the most pro worker Republican ticket in history. And I want to talk about why we're fighting for working people, why we're going to fight for unions and non union alike.
Ben Meiselas
Then he talks about how the RNC was filled with powerful speakers. And you should judge the various candidates, him and Donald Trump, based on who were speaking at the convention. And one of the people he cites to show that they're a real serious ticket is the WWE has been Hulk Hogan. Play that clip.
J.D. Vance
Republican and Democrat conventions we just had. It says a lot who each party chose to put up on that stage at the Republican convention. We were featuring everyday American workers. And of course we had Hulk Hogan. And while it's tempting and I'm sure it would make some big headlines, don't worry, everybody. I'm not going to try to take off my shirt here.
Ben Meiselas
I mean, he has like absolutely Euro comedic timing. He's not funny. I'll just show you. I want to do one more clip. And this was at a prior speech that he gave yesterday. And here he addresses on his own the physical altercation that a Trump campaign staffer had with an Arlington Cemetery staffer where the Trump campaign physically assaulted the Arlington Cemetery staffer so that Donald Trump could get a Photo op at the cemetery for the campaign. Campaigning at the Arlington Cemetery is strictly prohibited. And here's what Vance had to say about that. Let's play this clip now. Yeah, I mean, it is.
J.D. Vance
It is amazing to me that you have. Apparently somebody at Arlington Cemetery, some staff member had a little disagreement with somebody, and they have turned the media, has turned this into a national news story. You know what I think our veterans care a lot more about that Kamala Harris's VP nominee lied about his military service. I think that our veterans care a.
Ben Meiselas
Lot more about that. No, I think it's important that we check in on what the chair of the Republican Party, Lara Trump, has been talking about as well. It's been a pretty tumultuous 24, 48 hours for the Trump campaign. The Fox News poll has Donald Trump trailing in most of the key swing states down in Arizona, down in Nevada, and down in Georgia. A Bloomberg poll has Donald Trump down in mostly all of the states as well. That just came out today. So I'm just wondering, like, if you're the chair of the Republican Party right now, what are you focused on? And let's. Let's hear from Lara Trump. So we found out that, you know, that you dabble in music, and you started working with music, and this song fits you.
Donald Trump
You know what I mean? It fits our country.
Ben Meiselas
And, like, we were so honored to actually have you one find the time, you know, to meet up with us in the studio in New York and also be able to do such an.
Donald Trump
Amazing job, you know, working with our producer, Brad Cox.
Ben Meiselas
I know that it's hard to do things in the studio sometimes, but you nailed it. And we think everybody's gonna love this song. You got a tremendous, beautiful voice. Thank you.
Brett Meiselas
Yeah.
Ben Meiselas
When it's not. When it's not hoarse. When I'm not over Brett Jordy. Now is the time where we can. I wanted to show all of those together because I think they all tell a story. And before giving you my commentary, I want people who are watching the Midas Mighty to see all of that and just to form their own opinions rather than me just, he said this, she said this, they said this. Brett, you first.
Brett Meiselas
Well, the clips speak for themselves, let's face it. But if we had to go into it like that, the end. First off, the energy at the two rallies could not be more different. Trump's rallies are all about me, me, me, me, me. He that. Once again, like Ben said before, that was supposed to be an event about the economy. Did you hear anything about the economy. No. And this is also how Fox Gaslight, um, I saw Aaron Rupar and using this term the other day online, sane wash. Donald Trump try to. They cut away. And then they try to act like what Donald Trump was saying that was actually completely insane, was somewhat sane. Um, they cut away from this rally, too, while Donald Trump kept rambling on about all these things. And they go, that's Donald Trump taking it to Kamala Harris on the economy, expressing his economic vision. I was like, no, he did not.
Ben Meiselas
That.
Brett Meiselas
That was not what I heard, actually. But they just lie. It's just straight up propaganda all the time. But you see, just depressing. The crowds are depressing. It's all, me, me, me. It's all, oh, why does nobody say I'm the best speaker? Why are they fawning over her? It's all these weird lines. More disrespecting of veterans. Right after one of the biggest veteran scandals that I've seen of him desecrating Arlington National Cemetery. I mean, the guy just doubles down. Then you see Vice President Harris's rally. It's uplifting. It's me, me, me, me, me. It's, here's what I'm going to do for you. She's listing out her plans. She is talking about the best of America. She's speaking about actually what she's going to do and how it fits into her vision of the American dream. Like, it could not be more different. You hear those crowds. You see videos of the crowds dancing before the show. They're having a good time. They're fired up. You hear them at the end. They're ready to go out there. They're ready to vote. They're ready to knock on doors. They're ready to actually do the work. They're not just there to watch a carnival barker. Like, they are at these Donald Trump rallies. And then you go to J.D. vance. J.D. vance has to be one of the most people who is most uncomfortable in his skin that I have ever seen. He tries to deliver these jokes at every rally now. They always fall completely flat. They're always just so awkward. He's trying to act tough, I think, for Donald Trump because he knows that I think Donald Trump thinks he is incredibly weak and that Donald Trump regrets I his pick of JD Vance. So he tries to add these lines now. Like, there was even a part that we didn't play where he goes, and I want to tell Kamal Harris, you gotta go, go to hell. And it's like, it's weird, dude. Like, like, what are you what are you doing? It's just, it's weird. It's mean spirited. It's not funny. It doesn't come off well. It makes you look like a creep. It makes you look like a weirdo probably because you are. That's just your natural aura that is projecting there. Then he brings up the veteran story and what does he do with the veteran story? He uses it to then shame another veteran to attack another veteran. Lying about Tim Walls's record, lying about Tim Walls's military service, which is something that he has made a big plank of his efforts against Tim Walls to attack a fellow veteran for his 24 or so years of military service. Like, how disgraceful is that? And also attacking the staffer at Arlington National Cemetery, which now the Donald Trump actively doing. You see the Donald Trump, you see the Trump campaign, you see his various advisors, they're actually attacking the US army and they're attacking the workers at the Arlington National Cemetery. I shouldn't have to say this, but if you are getting into feuds with the Arlington National Cemetery as a presidential candidate and you want to be commander in chief, that right there is disqualified. Even if you remove everything else that we're going to be speaking about in this episode. That alone is disqualifying. And we see like let me show you this comment. If I, if I have it, we have Chris La Civita. This is one of Donald Trump's co chairs along with Susie Wiles. He called the secretary of the UMA U.S. army hacks. In a Twitter post today he reposted one of the videos they made while they were at the Arlington National Cemetery. And he wrote reposting this hoping to trigger the hacks at at Sec Army. Like why would you think that's a good idea to try to attack the secretary of the Army? Donald Trump of course made a tick tock advertisement with his footage that he illegally took at this rally and we at this, at the cemetery rather at this event and we got a statement from the cemetery in which went after them for this. You know, they said that they routinely host these ceremonies, that the Arlington national ceremony has conducted 3,000 of these ceremonies a year without incident. And this is the first one where they actually had a problem. And just to show you the danger, the threat of maga, the reason why the staffer who was a female is not pressing charges is because she doesn't want to be threatened by Donald Trump and his MAGA minions. It's this idea of stochastic terrorism. So that's what we're dealing with the contrast could not be clearer. When you're looking at this, as we've said in the past, it's really the very best of America and the the actual ideals of America versus the very worst of America and people who actively hate our country.
Jordy Meiselas
Jordy, you said it perfectly. No need to restate anything. But one thing you did miss is what I'm actually genuinely concerned about. Did you guys know that Lara Trump is the voice of a whole generation voice? I mean, this is how delusional they are. I mean, this is how delusional the Trump, Lara Trump. Ben, in her heart of hearts thinks that she's a global icon superstar. And you know what I have to say to that?
Ben Meiselas
Go, Lara.
Jordy Meiselas
Oh, I am her, like biggest.
Ben Meiselas
Go, Lara.
Jordy Meiselas
Go, man. You're doing an awesome job. Head of the rnc folks, let's haircuts too.
Brett Meiselas
Our audio listeners can't see them, but the haircuts in the Lara Trump interview, they had like Mr. T haircuts or some like these weird mohawks.
Jordy Meiselas
Yeah. I just can't get over the fact that Larry Trump genuinely believes that she is the maga Taylor Swift.
Brett Meiselas
These are the show she's going on.
Jordy Meiselas
It's unbelievable. It's truly unbelievable.
Ben Meiselas
Ben, let's take a first quick break. When we come back, we've got a lot to discuss. Thank you for helping us hit that 3 million subscriber mark. We appreciate it. You want to support the growth of this independent media platform. It's patreon.com Midas Touch P A T-R-E-N.com/Midas Touch and make sure you are subscribed. Let's get to 4 million. Let's get to 5 million. Let's get to 6 million. Let's take our first quick break of the show.
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Ben Meiselas
Big.
Brett Meiselas
That's big.
Ben Meiselas
Well, let me show you when we talk about corporate media, both sides in the issues. I want to show you after Midas Touch reported about post after post that Trump was making misogynistic, hateful, despicable QAnon type stuff, let me show you how CNN dealt with this issue. Let's play it.
Jordy Meiselas
We're going pretty low, I'd say very.
Brett Meiselas
Low in online attacks against Vice President Harris. This is the trolling wars between the two campaigns have been escalating for several weeks. One of Trump's former top advisers joins me on that next.
Ben Meiselas
The trolling wars between the two campaigns is getting is accelerating. So it's a both sides thing, right? On the one hand you have Donald Trump making posts like this photo of Vice President Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton saying funny how blowjobs impacted both of their careers differently. Or Donald Trump making posts of President Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Vice President Kamal Harris, Dr. Fauci, Hillary Clinton in orange jumpsuits. Or another post saying indict the unselect January six committee for sedition retruth if you want to lock them up. Or how about this one? All roads lead to Obama retreat if you want to see public military tribunals. Or this post of special counsel Jack Smith looks like it's drawn by a 3 year old petulant. No offense to 3 year old petulant like bullies with devil horns and red eyes on special counsel Jack Smith. Or the post that's Donald Trump holding a Q pl for Q anon in his hand that says the world will soon understand nothing can stop what is coming. A reference to Donald Trump engaging in public executions on Capitol Hill which is one of the beliefs of the death cult called Q. And on that Donald Trump is posting right there. And other posts just like that. Or how about this one where Trump goes it's always fake with Kamala. We're dominating her on social media so she makes up up fake list of her numbers versus my numbers. Wine, wine, wine, blah blah blah. Just so much whining right there over and over and over again. So I'm trying to understand the, the CNN's characterization of this as this is part of the, of the troll wars. Any single one of those posts should be disqualified. Who behaves like that?
J.D. Vance
If anybody who you worked with behaved.
Ben Meiselas
Like that, they should be fired and terminated immediately. If anybody in a nonprofit behaved like that, they should be terminated immediately. If anybody.
Brett Meiselas
And let's remember the end of that also what they said right? Well, not only was the SEC was the segment set up with that both sides framing but they were bringing on a Trump person to discuss it. That's, that's what they were doing. They're gonna have a Trump person to discuss Trump's post. I mean this, the hypocrisy of these networks. And there were finally I like I, I need to give some of these networks credit and some and Anderson Cooper did cover this and thankfully be acted like it was kind of the first time that Donald Trump, Trump has ever said anything like this. But this is why we call these things out. Every single day Donald Trump posts multiple, maybe dozens, Sometimes hundreds of QAnon memes every single day. That's the death cult Ben was talking about that demands public executions of Donald Trump's enemies. Hundreds, sometimes a day. He's posted thousands over the past few years, and they are utterly ignored. He posts these horrific, sexist, misogynistic memes, like, every single day. And so I'm happy they're reporting on it, but, like, hello, like, where have you been this whole time? And then when you finally start getting your footing on this and getting it right to go, oh, this is just part of the trolling wars. Let's bring on a Trump advisor to come and speak about what they think about this light trolling. This isn't light troll trolling. Is Kamala Harris going, hey, Donald Trump, we got bigger crowds than you? That's.
Ben Meiselas
That's. That's the trolling.
Brett Meiselas
That's the trolling war, okay?
Ben Meiselas
That.
Brett Meiselas
This posts. This is not trolling wars. This is, as Ben said, utterly disqualifying, deranged, unhinged behavior that if this person was an employee or applying for any job you could possibly name, they would be unfit for it.
Ben Meiselas
Couldn't agree more with you. But the actual number is over 3,000 QAnon posts over the past two years. Over 3,000 posts over of a death cult over and over again. You know, and what's, you know, what's interesting is, you know, is Donald Trump, that last one that I read, where Donald Trump goes, it's always fake. With Kamala, we're dominating her on social media, so she makes up a fake list of her numbers versus my numbers. All of our engagement is real and organic, while Kamala has to pay for her fake engagement. We're beating her like a drum, by the way. Who even talks like that? But, you know, as always, projection and confession with Donald Trump. We previously showed you how Donald Trump would post AI images of the Swifties and of Taylor Swift, and he accepted a fake AI endorsement of these Swifties and Taylor Swift. Like, how pathetic can you get doing that? But what we learned yesterday from this great report that Benjamin Strick did, he said it's a network of fake accounts. Accounts are posing as young American women posting pro Trump content and disinformation, but they're hiding behind and manipulating the images of European fashion influencers. It's their latest investigation, and it was an incredible report where it actually located these Eastern European models. And these women's photos were being used, and they were having, like, MAGA hats put on them when they weren't really wearing MAGA hats, you know, and then it would just be like, you know, these. These weirdo MAGA dudes behind the scenes, you know, catfishing, politically catfishing, basically, and then pushing out all of the kind of MAGA culture war stuff to try to divide Americans, using as the front, Eastern European models wearing fake MAGA hats. So quite literally, Donald Trump is doing the fake engagement right there. And again, I just remember growing up where if a candidate spelled potato wrong, that would be disqualified. I remember when Howard Dean shouted, we're going here, and that was disqualified. I remember when John Kerry, it was a huge scandal when he went windsurfing and he just looked like he was wearing, like, the outfit, and it just looks. Looked completely kind of detached from, like, reality. And I just remember all of, you know, these moments along the way where the Fourth Estate, when it existed in a robust fashion, really, before Donald Trump took a sledgehammer to him and just, you know, made brain worms and mashed potato brains out of them, you know, that there would be sometimes so much, the standards would be so high that the smallest little things would derail somebody. So, you know, again, the fact that it's not a mate, you know, still, I mean, yes, Brett, some people were covering it, but you saw how CNN eventually had to. Elasticity, had to kind of contract, and they had to bring it back to some bolts that.
Brett Meiselas
To normalize that to go, okay, oh, we're cnn.
Ben Meiselas
Oh, we're cnn. So there's actually, whoa, whoa, whoa. We can't be too mean to Trump. We have to say, this is a.
Brett Meiselas
In fact, let's invite Donald Trump's person on here to discuss it. It and give his defense of these statements, which are indefensible.
Ben Meiselas
But here's all CNN has to do, right? Is. And this is, this is the frustrating part. Just report on the news, right? Just go through it and say, here, you know, we report, you decide, right? Like, like, here is what he's saying. Here's the post. He says, it's funny how blow jobs impacted both of their careers differently with a photo of Vice President Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. Hey, audience, you know, you know, hey, hey, how do you think about that? What do you think about the leader of the Republican Party, a party that once stood for family values, saying, you know, say, sexually harassing the leader of the other political party? You. You good with that? Would you be good if a co.
J.D. Vance
Worker behaved like that?
Ben Meiselas
Would you be good if your child behaved like that? Or how about putting orange jumpsuit photos of the other candidate? How about saying, indict for sedition the January 6th committee? Or that there should be Public military tribunals or this, you know, just like horrifically looking photo of like Jack Smith with the, with the red eyes and the devil horns that looks like a second a two year old drew it. No offense to two year olds or the QAnon. What do you think about that audience? You know, and just say what it is versus you know, we're gonna have the Trump person come on. And what do you think the Trump person says? The Trump person says, I don't think this is what the Trump spokesperson says. I don't think the American people really care about this. The American people really want to focus on and they give you their Trump talking points that then don't go checked. Right. What Americans really want to focus on is the chaos at the border. What Americans want to focus on is all of the crime that's out there. What Americans want to focus on is how has, how inflation is setting record high, guys. And CNN then doesn't, right. The segments introduced as look, look, if CNN wants to basically ask hard questions and stick to it. But that's not what happens. The Trump person goes on and then does the spin. Americans want to talk about that and then CNN just lets him say it versus oh, by the way, didn't Donald Trump kill the bipartisan border deal? Wasn't Donald Trump the one who killed that deal? That was lead negotiator was the Republican from Oklahoma, James La Lankford. And Donald Trump said he wants chaos at the border because that's a winning issue for him. Wasn't Donald Trump the one who added $8 trillion to the American debt which actually caused inflation, as well as his tariffs with China in a failed trade war as well as Donald Trump's tax cuts for billionaires while screwing over the middle class and American workers that couldn't be paid for? And mishandling Covid with a mishandled PPP program, printing money recklessly and then not managing our supply chain, which by the way, President Biden managed to do and handle well with things like the CHIPS act to try to bring the semiconductor industry back to here. But Trump was not prepared for Covid. The supply chains broke down and Donald Trump's DOJ did not prosecute price gouging at all. They encouraged it. So you know, CNN's not going to fact check them so they can just say they're talking points. Points. And then even though Vice President Kamala Harris is ahead in all of the polls, we wonder why it's close. We wonder like, okay, yes, she's up in Arizona now. She's up in Nevada according to the Fox polls, right? She's up in Georgia. But, but man, why is it she's up in Michigan, she's up in Pennsylvania, she's up in Wisconsin. But like, it's still like one point here, two point here, three points here, one point here. Although in some of the national polls, you know, she's up significantly, significantly more. But you know, it's going to come down to certain states. It's because people are, are getting a diet of disinformation and they're getting this and they're getting both sides and people. And look, this is why I am deeply, why I spent, I can say sympathetic, why I spend so much time welcoming people who are former MAGA, even if it's tomorrow, even if it's after January 6th. I don't judge them because I know that there are billions of dollars spent to try to provide disinformation. And, and that is a powerful force. And I know how busy these people are. Sometimes they're working two jobs, they're trying to support their family. So they turn on a news channel, whether it's Fox or CNN or whatever, to try to get data and then they don't get the data that they need. And it's every day, it happens that way over and over again. So there's no way to look. But that's why when you finally convince your relative to watch the Midas Touch network, why so frequently people go, oh, crap. And it's not. And we're not yelling the stuff. It's like we're showing the data. Like, let me show you this data right here. I'm going to give you a perfect example. Are you ready for this? As CNN and corporate media tried to be like, Donald Trump's great for the economy, economy, economy, economy, economy. Okay, well, first off, he's the only president other than Herbert Hoover to actually lose jobs. People call Donald Trump pervert Hoover, but he's a lot like Herbert Hoover in that sense. Take a look at what Carl Quintanilla from CNBC Post Today data chart. People are starting new businesses right now at extraordinary rates. In other words, the American dream right now. And you take a look a dip during COVID right there. But Donald Trump did it increase and then boom, all of a sudden under President Biden because of policies like the Inflation Reduction act, the Infrastructure act, the CHIPS act, actually focusing on the middle class, child tax credits, relieving student debt, which allows people to go out and actually function in the economy. We see a massive rise in new Businesses forming. There's also a manufacturing boom taking place right now. Now, you know how all the MAGA Republicans want to attack Green New Deal this, Green New that. Those are jobs. Those are factories where workers like the ones that Brett and I went to in Pueblo, Colorado, where there were hundreds of new workers, thousands of new workers going to be employed through windmills when Donald Trump goes wind. No, those are jobs. And not only it's the windmill, it's then the freight, it's the trains that bring the parts. It, it impacts the entire country, the people who make the parts for the windmills. And that deals with inflation because you don't have to deal with the supply chain issues when the factory was in Vietnam, and you'd have to deal with shipping issues. So let's focus on the facts and the data. You know when Donald Trump's people go on all of the shows and they're like, the stock market is setting record highs now because of Trump. That's why it's right now. Now, even though Trump said in 2020 the stock market would crash, which it did not do, despite him trying to do it if he wasn't elected again, but they say right now it's record highs because of Donald Trump. Well, okay, let's take a look at the stock that has Donald Trump's actual name on it. Right? Like you would think that one would be crushing it under the theory that people are amped about him, even though it's a stupid theory. But here's Donald Trump stock, okay? It's trading under $20. Now, if you looked at these six months of Trump Media, you would see that for the past six months, Trump Media has dropped about 60% in the past six months. Meanwhile, the United States stock market since Donald Trump stopped disgracing the Oval Office is up about 50%. And you can see on the chart there where Trump left and when the Biden Harris administration took place. So the United States stock market, the Dow Jones, the NASDAQ, the S&P are basically up 50% right now since Trump left. But the Trump stock is down 60% over the past six months. Make that make sense. I could actually make it make sense very easily. You go back, you look at Donald Trump's history of running businesses into the ground, bankruptcy after bankruptcy, not a builder, a destroyer. Everything he touched, from Trump vodka to Trump mortgage to Trump airplanes to the hotels to the university, bankrupt, bankrupt, bankruptcy, crash, crash, crash. And what did the deep state go back in a time capsule from the future? And were they the reason that he's failed his entire life with every single thing essentially that he's done. The only thing he's been able to do is grift people over and over again. He found a willing home in the Republican Party where they welcomed scammers for generations, took over that party, grifted, scammed, and then joined forces with the media who love him for the ratings meetings to screw over we the people. It's why I want to focus on the data. The data is the antidote for all of that fake contrived crap. And as I've always said, again, this isn't a Democratic thing versus a Republican thing. This MAGA mutation is different than what a Republican was. You know, I still have over here in the back. You may see over there, I have, I have a. What Reagan had on his desk. It can be done. And Reagan also said there is no limit to what a man can do or where he can go if he doesn't try to hog all of the credit for himself. And you know, even though I didn't like Reagan, I like, I like those words. I agree with those words. But let's face it, Reagan and Bush let some of these, you know, people in. They let the Tea Party in. They let this MAGA thing in and the MAGA mutation took over the Republican Party and they just ain't the same party. And it's just not who it is, is. We're going to keep calling it out each and every time here on the show and we're going to welcome people even if a MAGA person leaves tomorrow. Welcome to the pro democracy community where we the people love our flag, we love our Constitution, we love our country. And it's not just with idle words. It's with our actions every single day by building a better America together. That's what we do here in these United States of America. I want to take our last quick break of the show. 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Ben Meiselas
Just want to address the new background right here. The dogs barking a little bit more than usual. I builded out a new little studio out here and so the dogs are sometimes barking when they see people around. But like, like it's all good. The dogs are just, you know, Taquito and Chito are going to become a major part of the show anyway. They already are. So I got one note for you.
Jordy Meiselas
On the new background, Ben. It looks fabulous when, when you look behind you to read stuff off your wall. Either take your mic with you. We might need to get you a boom mic I would say.
Brett Meiselas
I would advise against taking the mic but when you turn away from the mic this is just like I'm just people can't you can't hear you when you, when you, it's tough.
Jordy Meiselas
What we're trying to say is when you're not speaking into the mic, people have a hard time hearing you.
Brett Meiselas
Yeah, Mike, we got when you eat.
Ben Meiselas
CE with a spoon and if you turn your mouth like it won't.
Brett Meiselas
Yeah. You're supposed to speak into the microphone.
Jordy Meiselas
Hey, whatever helps you remember to speak into the mic, we'll be good. So that if you want to use the spoon.
Ben Meiselas
Fabulous. That's how, that's how I'll remember it. I want to show you this clip. Vice President Kamala Harris, of course, interviewing with Dana Bash. You know, I was, I, I was a little like, why are you doing cnn? Like, you know, they're going to both sides all of the issues. But, but you know, I think part of it was also a statement that because Dana Bash and Tapper did this, in my own view, you know, did the debate that, you know, she kind of wanted to go there, Vice President Kamal Harris and be like, look, you know, not only am I going to handle this interview, you know, I'm going to just show that like, you know, it's almost like a redo of the Biden, of the Biden debate. There may be that there, I may be looking into it too much because, you know, it's hard for me to really think about why else picked Dana Bash, who I think has not been a very effective pro democracy advocate. We'll just say, but look, even how she asks this question, like, Dana Bash adopts the Trump frame. So, Vice President Kamal Harris, you've been flip flopping on all of these issues over time. What is your response? How can people trust you? I'm like thinking, I'm like, what is she, what is she flip flopping on? I, she hasn't flip flopped on anything like anything major. Her values have been the same. I mean, she's the one who said that she would sign the bipartisan in border deal. Donald Trump killed the border deal. So the fact that she's talking about the borders, how is that even a flip flop? She's was going to sign the legislation, Biden would. But she said, I'll sign the legislation. Trump's against it. Then like, you'll see Dana Bash mentioned the Green New Deal. I mean, the Green New Deal is a framework and a label. But Vice President Kamala Harris has always said that she believes climate change is a real thing and needs to be addressed. The Inflation Reduction act act and the Infrastructure act both have billions. The biggest investments in climate change imaginable you know, and I think that where Republicans have been able to latch on to things that Green New Deal woke and all of the, you know, and all of these ridiculous things to actually obfuscate from. Wait a minute. Are we talking about policies that, like, actually help people's lives and like, mean more jobs? And so Vice President Kamal Harris is like, I think that my values and principles have been the same. But watch this. Generally speaking, how should voters look at some of the changes that you've made that you explained some of here in your policy? Is it because you have more experience.
Brett Meiselas
Now and you've learned more about the information? Is it because you were running for.
Ben Meiselas
President in a Democratic primary and should they feel comfortable and confident that what you're saying now is going to be your policy moving forward?
Kamala Harris
Dan, I think the most important and most significant aspect of my policy perspective and decisions is my values have not changed. You mentioned the Green New Deal. I have always believed, and I have worked on it, that the climate crisis is real, that it is an urgent matter to which we should apply metrics that, that include holding ourselves to deadlines around time. We did that with the Inflation Reduction Act. We have set goals for the United States of America and by extension the globe around when we should meet certain standards for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. As an example. That value has not changed. My value around what we need to do to secure our border. That value has not changed. I spent two terms as the Attorney General of California prosecuting transnational criminal organizations, violations of American laws regarding the passage illegal passage of guns, drugs and human beings across our border. My values have not changed.
Ben Meiselas
So going back to what we said before, how like wondering, well, how is this even close? So there you had Vice President Kamala Harris being able to actually address the question, right? But that's how CNN is actually reporting it. And then oftentimes they'll call to a Trump person who will just reinforce that idea that there's been this flip flopping. And that's exactly the messaging that Trump is getting out there. And it's like, there's no flip flopping at all. Like, what are you talking about? So you have that, and that's coming from cnn. And by the way, she answered that question, I think superbly. And then you have like Fox where you have Governor Walz giving this incredible speech in Boston before the firefighters union there, and he's speaking about the middle class, about small businesses. And this is a message that would resonate with conservatives, right? Like, this is a message that should resonate with, with anybody, you know, who's, you know, you know, hardworking people like. Let me show you what Governor Walls is saying. And notice how quickly though, as he's saying things that would benefit us all, Fox just cuts away from it. Let's play this clip, some of you in here. And I'm going to say this because I know we're bipartisan. Some of the gray hairs in here. There. I know what you're thinking, and I remember it too, because it's my family. When Republicans used to talk about freedom, they meant it. They meant it.
J.D. Vance
Not anymore.
Ben Meiselas
These guys over there, they want government to have the freedom to invade every corner of your life, from our union halls to our kids, schools, even our doctor's office. Vice president and I, we got a little bit different vision of this. We believe that you, not pilot politicians should be made free to make your own health care choices. We believe that workers deserve to collectively bargain for fair wages, safe working conditions, good health care and secure retirement, no interference from government.
Kamala Harris
Listening to Governor Tim Walls of Minnesota. He's also the vice presidential nominee for the Democratic ticket. He's speaking to the firefighters union in Boston, Massachusetts. About 350,000 members, Brett, and speaking there enthusiastically, without notes. And they really want to get this union vote. I don't know, though, Brett, if the rank and file would agree with him.
Ben Meiselas
Yeah, it's interesting. I think this is a pitch, a speech designed specifically for the union. A lot of talk, talk about collective bargaining. A lot of talk about, you know, issues that those union members talk about in those halls. Yeah, I don't think that the rank and file is going to care about the main thing that rank and file cares about, collective bargaining. Why would the messaging of collective bargaining resonate with literal people whose main issue is collective bargaining? Oh, you know, I mean, take, take a look at the shirts that the union workers were wearing. I mean, the union workers were all dressed up in shirts today during JD Vance's speech that say Trump is a scab on it. So if I want to hear what the rank and file union workers are saying, I'll take a look right there. And they say, and they say scab. And also, why are people telling me what it is that people are saying? There's nothing more that bugs me. Just play his speech. Well, I think he's talking, I know what he's saying. I, I can hear it. So can you stop talking over him, please? And that doesn't just go with thoughts. Fox. Fox is egregious or the most egregious. But when CNN and MSNBC and all these channels would cut away like from the dnc. So what they're trying to say is shut up. I want to hear what they're saying and not what you tell me they're trying to say. Let me listen to these ideas so I could form opinions. If this is going to help me, my family, my community, my country and the world, like, let me do that, please. So I want to leave, I want to leave you all on, on that note right there. So you can see be how you, how we, the people together can be the difference maker though by changing that dynamic, we can change the way news is provided and consumed. Brett, I'll give you the final word. I know we got to go to, because I know there's a big, something big that's about to happen. Huh?
Brett Meiselas
Well, we want to watch the vice President's interview and, and, and so we're, we'll sign up shortly. So you all could watch it as well. Well, but I mean, you know, it's just, it's the sad state of affairs that that's our media landscape, right. That those are kind of the choices that a lot of people tune into when you have that cnn, both sides framing on one side and then you have Fox on the other side. But that's why I'm so proud of what you've all built here with the Midas Touch network. That's why I'm so proud of you all watching and listening, sharing these videos and, and saying enough of the both sides crap, right? Like, let's like, like stop it. Fox is really, we're seeing right now because they're like a, like a wounded animal, right? They're lashing out in a way and they are just being more blatant about their propaganda than they've ever been before. Like, it's just, it's so obvious now and everything is gaslighting. And they view themselves as like they need to be trying to protect their bottom line in terms of getting Republicans in who are going to keep their taxes low and all this stuff. They view themselves as, they need to protect the Republicans and Donald Trump at all costs. And it doesn't matter how far to go to gaslight and lie to the public. But that's what they have to do. If Donald Trump is losing in polls, Jesse Waters will literally say Donald Trump's doing great in the polls. And they'll be like, no, you're not. And they'll be like, look at our own polls.
Ben Meiselas
They're FOX polls.
Brett Meiselas
Look at the FOX poll, it's our own internal poll. You see that message really resonating. That was the same crowd that J.D. vance was in front of that J.D. vance got booed at today to show you the differences. Right. Governor Walls is there. He's delivering a message that is tailor made for that audience. A message that he believes in, A message that he has fought for and implemented in his own state. A message that Kamala Harris actually was on the picket line with President Biden fighting for union workers while they were collectively bargaining, while they were on strike. And they cut away and they tried to gaslight their viewers because this would be good for their viewers. These are actual conservative principles. Right? Get the government off my back back. Right. Let me do what I need to do as a worker and as an American. And that was so threatening to Fox that they needed to cut away and tell their viewers that what you're seeing is not what you're seeing. What you're seeing is actually bad. That was bad. That was bad stuff that you were seeing. And so that's the media environment we find ourselves in. But that's why I'm like I said before, I'm so proud of what we're all building here. 3 million subscribers, 29 million views every 48 hours. And guess what, that's more than Fox. That's more than Fox on digital. That's more than cnn. That's more than msnbc, NBC, abc. More than all of them. People are get coming here to the Midas Touch Network because of what we are seeing out there. So on that note, I just want to say thank you and then I'm going to turn over to Jordy.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast: "Trump IMPLOSION Rapidly Accelerates IN PUBLIC" – Detailed Summary
Release Date: August 30, 2024
Hosts:
In this episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve into the escalating public implosion of former President Donald Trump. They juxtapose Trump’s recent controversial statements and actions with Vice President Kamala Harris’s policy-focused rhetoric, highlighting the stark differences in their approaches and the implications for the upcoming 2024 elections.
Ben Meiselas kicks off the discussion by presenting a series of troubling statements made by Donald Trump in Porterville, Michigan. These include:
Comparison to Al Capone:
[06:36] Ben: "Donald Trump says, 'Al Capone liked killing people, but he had nothing like me.'"
Analysis: Ben criticizes Trump's attempt to glamorize his own criminal behavior by drawing parallels with notorious gangster Al Capone.
Inappropriate Remarks About Daughters:
[06:53] Ben: "Donald Trump describes his daughter as 'a beautiful young daughter,' which comes across as creepy given his history."
Context: Ben connects this to Trump’s associations with Jeffrey Epstein and previous allegations of sexual misconduct.
Self-Praise on Speaking Skills:
[07:41] Ben: "Trump attempts to boast about his oratory skills by saying, 'I must be a great speaker, right? We got thousands of people.'"
Comments on Presidential Honors:
[08:40] Ben: "Trump undermines the significance of the Medal of Honor by expressing a preference for the Presidential Medal of Freedom over the Medal of Honor."
These statements illustrate what the hosts perceive as Trump's unhinged and self-serving rhetoric, which they argue disqualifies him from leading the nation.
In stark contrast, Vice President Kamala Harris presents a composed and policy-driven approach in her speech in Savannah, Georgia:
Commitment to the Middle Class:
[12:01] Kamala Harris: "And unlike Donald Trump, I will always put the middle class and working-class families first."
Focus on Democracy and Policies:
[12:16] Kamala Harris: "We are fighting for a democracy. Everyone has a right and should have their voices heard."
Critique of Trump’s Project 2025:
[13:04] Kamala Harris: "They would create a national anti-abortion coordinator and force states to report on women's miscarriages and abortions. It's right there in Project 2025."
Inspiring the Crowd:
[13:37] Kamala Harris: "So, Savannah, are you ready to make your voices heard? Do we believe in freedom? Do we believe in opportunity? Do we believe in the promise of America?"
Jordy Meiselas emphasizes Harris’s focus on values and collective progress:
[05:12] Jordy: "This movement is built on values and ideals, not a specific person, but guiding principles of how we all want to see our great nation thrive."
The podcast features J.D. Vance addressing the Firefighter Union in Boston, where his speech received a mixed reaction:
Pro-Worker Messaging:
[14:54] J.D. Vance: "Trump and I are proud to be the most pro-worker Republican ticket in history. We are fighting for working people, unions, and non-union alike."
Reception by Firefighters:
[14:35] J.D. Vance: "We got some fans and some haters."
However, the audience's response was largely negative, with many firefighters booing him, signaling a disconnect between Vance’s messaging and the audience’s sentiments.
The hosts critically analyze how mainstream media outlets handle Trump’s and Harris’s statements:
Media’s Inadequate Reporting on Trump:
[32:10] Brett Meiselas: "They were bringing on a Trump person to discuss these indefensible statements, showcasing media hypocrisy."
Comparison with Harris’s Coverage:
[33:31] Ben Meiselas: "CNN introduces Trump’s problematic posts and then brings in a Trump spokesperson who downplays the severity, while Harris’s substantive policies receive much less critical attention."
Ben Meiselas presents recent polling data indicating Trump trailing in key swing states:
Fox News Polls:
[16:48] "Trump is trailing in Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia."
Bloomberg Polls:
"Similarly, Bloomberg polls show Trump lagging in most states, including significant holds in states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin."
Brett Meiselas adds:
[19:14] "The historical stock performance since Trump's departure shows a 50% rise in the US stock market, contrasting with a 60% drop in Trump Media stock over the same period."
The hosts argue that corporate media have eroded trust by failing to hold Trump accountable and instead perpetuating his narratives:
Trump’s Business Failures vs. Media Praise:
[32:10] Ben: "Trump's businesses have consistently failed, yet media narratives ignore this reality."
Manipulation Through Fake Accounts:
[33:32] Ben: "Trump employs fake accounts posing as young American women to spread pro-Trump disinformation, manipulating public perception."
The episode concludes with the hosts urging listeners to support independent media platforms like The MeidasTouch Network to counteract mainstream media bias. Brett Meiselas highlights the network’s rapid growth to 3 million subscribers, surpassing traditional media channels.
[62:20] Brett: "We are seeing our network outpace Fox, CNN, MSNBC, and others in digital engagement because people are seeking unbiased, fact-based reporting."
Ben Meiselas reinforces the importance of data-driven analysis over partisan narratives:
[60:59] "The data is the antidote for all of that fake contrived crap."
Jordy Meiselas closes with a reminder to support the network:
[63:56] "Support the network by visiting store.midas touch.com and use code UNION for a 10% discount on all merchandise until Monday."
Trump’s Public Statements: Viewed as deranged and disqualifying, highlighting a shift towards more extreme rhetoric.
Kamala Harris’s Leadership: Emphasizes policies benefiting the middle class and democratic values, presenting a stark contrast to Trump’s approach.
Media Bias: Criticized for failing to hold Trump accountable while amplifying his negative behaviors through manipulative tactics.
Election Dynamics: Polls indicate Trump losing ground in crucial swing states, suggesting a challenging path ahead for his 2024 campaign.
Support for Independent Media: The MeidasTouch Network advocates for independent platforms to provide unbiased information and counteract mainstream media’s perceived failures.
Jordy Meiselas on movement's focus:
[05:12] "This movement is never about the me. It's always about the we, the collective we, the pro democracy."
Kamala Harris on fighting for democracy:
[12:31] "We are fighting for a democracy. Everyone has a right and should have their voices heard."
Brett Meiselas on media hypocrisy:
[33:54] "This isn’t trolling wars. This is, as Ben said, utterly disqualifying, deranged, unhinged behavior."
This episode underscores the growing divide in American politics, the role of media in shaping public perception, and the importance of supporting independent voices to uphold democratic values.