The MeidasTouch Podcast
Episode: Trump is Scared as Impeachment over Epstein Haunts Him
Date: December 20, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Main Theme:
The episode focuses on the Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files as required by law, the massive redactions made, public and political outrage, and calls for impeachment. The brothers combine legal insight and sharp political commentary, analyzing Trump’s erratic public behavior, the administration’s ongoing scandals, and responses from politicians and survivors.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Trump’s Dodging and Public Responses to the Epstein Files
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Opening Scene (02:09):
- The episode opens with Trump physically walking away from media questions about non-compliance with the Epstein file release.
- Both Democrats and Republicans (notably Rep. Thomas Massie) argue impeachment for Trump, Pam Bondi (Attorney General), and Todd Blanche (Deputy AG) for violating the law and covering up for those implicated in Epstein’s ring.
- Quote - Ben Meiselas (02:18):
“It's a crime they've committed to cover up a child sex trafficking ring. ... To do it so blatantly—a middle finger to the American people.”
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Redactions and Non-Compliance (04:18):
- The law required the DOJ to release all Epstein files on December 19, only allowing redactions for victims to protect their identities.
- Instead, 90% of even the minuscule 5-10% of released documents were redacted, covering perpetrators’ names and failing requirements for searchability.
- Quote - Ben Meiselas (04:44):
“The whole purpose of the law is to find out who these wealthy men were who were involved in this damn sex trafficking ring.”
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Technical Non-Compliance (10:30):
- Files were uploaded in non-searchable formats, evading the spirit and intent of transparency laws.
2. Trump’s Deflections and Bizarre Public Behavior
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Trump’s North Carolina Speech (03:01 & 11:00):
- Instead of addressing the scandal, Trump discusses Jake Paul’s boxing loss, pharmaceutical company prices “paying people,” and makes dubious crowd size claims.
- Hosts liken the situation to how the Trump family handled Fred Trump’s Alzheimer’s diagnosis, comparing artifice used for Fred with campaign rally settings now constructed for Donald Trump.
- Quote – Ben Meiselas (05:16):
“They're creating these rally settings for Donald Trump so we can just get out. … Is the IV working? Is this working? ... It was an unmitigated disaster.”
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Clips from the Rally (12:11-14:26):
- Trump jokes about settling lawsuits against the U.S. to steal $1 billion from the treasury.
- He makes rambling comments about “panties” and undergarments.
- Brags repeatedly about “perfect health.”
- Hosts diagnose this as “clear sundowning”—a reference to cognitive decline.
- Quote - Trump (12:11):
“Donald Trump sues the United States of America. Donald Trump becomes president, and now Donald Trump has to settle the suit. I hereby give myself one billion dollars.”
- Quote - Trump (12:59):
“Her undergarments, always sometimes referred to as panties, are folded, perfect wrapped...they’re like, so perfect. I said, that's beautiful.”
3. Administration’s Distraction through Foreign Conflicts and Economic Downplay
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War in Syria Announcement (06:17):
- Trump administration claims vengeance on ISIS after attacks in Syria; Pete Hegseth posts about “Operation Hawkeye Strike.”
- Host questions legality/authorization and transparency about U.S. military engagement.
- Quote - Ben Meiselas (06:52):
“You go to Congress, get authorization before putting our fricking troops in the Middle East and getting them killed.”
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Economic Downplay (08:10):
- Trump blames job loss spikes (up 54% year-over-year) on government layoffs and claims it’s beneficial, dismissing mass unemployment outside healthcare and education.
4. Legal Analysis: Violations and Calls for Impeachment
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Ben’s Legal Summary (09:20):
- Strong case for impeachment of Trump, Bondi, and Blanche for violating explicit process and transparency requirements regarding the Epstein files, with repeated emphasis that the law was written to expose powerful abusers, and NOT to hide their identities.
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Survivors Dismissed as “Perpetrator Victims” (10:55):
- Trump administration claims that perpetrator identities must be protected as “real victims,” directly violating both letter and intent of the law.
5. Congressional Reactions
- Rep. Ro Khanna’s Response (15:04, 16:18, 16:57):
- Khanna expresses disbelief at the extent of the redactions and non-compliance.
- Demands for continued pressure, with survivors returning to the Capitol in January.
- Considers impeachment and “inherent contempt” for DOJ officials obstructing justice.
- Quote – Rep. Ro Khanna (15:19):
“What I do know is that his production violates the spirit of the law and it violates the letter of the law. And it's a slap in the face of survivors.”
- Quote – Rep. Ro Khanna (16:18):
“There are only two things that have moved this bill: the two press conferences of the survivors...the country started paying attention.”
- Quote – Rep. Ro Khanna (17:14):
“We saw the documents filled with blanket redactions, documents that judges had ordered to be released. ... There's none of the files on Epstein's computer. And we do not know then who these other rich and powerful men were who abused these survivors.”
6. Broader Framing: Good vs. Evil
- Hosts’ Final Commentary (18:29):
- The episode ends with a “good and evil” framing, pushing back against both-sides-ism in media.
- Ben flatly calls Trump, his allies, and those implicated “evil,” asserting that only by standing up with honesty and empathy can such conduct be countered.
- Quote – Ben Meiselas (18:45):
“You just have to come to the conclusion—they’re evil. ... We have to stand up honestly for these broader values of good and love and honesty and decency and empathy against these evil people. I just think it's that simple sometimes.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- (02:18, Ben Meiselas):
“It's a crime they've committed to cover up a child sex trafficking ring ... The trauma they've caused to the survivors is entirely unforgivable.”
- (12:11, Donald Trump):
“Donald Trump sues the United States of America. Donald Trump becomes president, and now Donald Trump has to settle the suit. I hereby give myself $1 billion...”
- (12:59, Donald Trump):
“Her undergarments, always sometimes referred to as panties, are folded, perfect wrapped ... I said, that's beautiful.”
- (15:19, Rep. Ro Khanna):
“His production violates the spirit of the law and it violates the letter of the law. And it's a slap in the face of survivors.”
- (18:45, Ben Meiselas):
“We have to stand up honestly for these broader values of good and love and honesty and decency and empathy against these evil people.”
Important Timestamps
- 02:09 — Trump dodges press questions, initial call for impeachment
- 04:44 — Law and requirements regarding Epstein file release discussed
- 06:17 — “Operation Hawkeye Strike” foreign distraction and critique
- 08:10 — Discussion on job losses and economic downplay
- 11:00 — Analysis of Trump’s mental fitness and scripted events
- 12:11 — Trump’s bizarre public statements (“$1 billion,” “panties,” “perfect health”)
- 15:04, 16:18, 16:57 — Rep. Ro Khanna’s statements on legal violations and continued activism
- 18:29 — Hosts’ final commentary, framing the fight as “good vs. evil”
Tone & Style
- The brothers’ banter remains sharp, direct, laced with frustration and irony.
- There’s a mix of legal analysis, political commentary, and emotional advocacy — especially for Epstein survivors.
- The podcast does not hold back in labeling the Trump administration and allies as lawless, dangerous, and “evil.”
- Calls for audience action and ongoing engagement are frequent.
Summary for the Uninitiated
If you haven't listened, this episode powerfully details the Trump administration’s brazen refusal to comply with laws demanding transparency around Jeffrey Epstein’s files. Despite bipartisan outrage and legal mandates, almost all relevant documentation was suppressed or rendered useless by redactions, especially those hiding the names of wealthy and powerful abusers. The hosts couple disbelief and outrage over these legal offenses with sharp wit, dissecting Trump’s increasingly erratic public presence, use of distraction tactics (war announcements, bizarre speeches), and further call on listeners to view this not as ordinary politics, but as a fundamental battle of good versus evil, stressing the need to support survivors and demand accountability. The episode is deeply critical, darkly comedic in places, and unflinching in advocating for justice and democratic values.