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Political Commentator
NMLS 696891 Donald Trump just got thrown under the bus in a big way by his own FBI Director, Cash Patel. Donald Trump didn't expect it. Frankly, I don't even think Cash Patel expected what was going to happen to unfold while he was doing this weird interview with Joe Rogan. But while he's doing this interview with Joe Rogan, he that's the moment that Elon Musk starts posting about the secrets that he knows about Donald Trump and that the Elon Musk posted this, you know this, that the reason that the Epstein files have not been released by the Department of Justice is because Donald Trump is all over the Epstein list and that Donald Trump and the doj Attorney General Pam Bondi and Cash Patel are covering it up to try to save and protect Donald Trump. Now, Elon Musk isn't just some random character. He was basically the co president, right? Donald Trump exalted this guy to, you know, some co president status. And Elon Musk is saying that. So here's what goes down. You have Cash Patel who doesn't really even, you know, know what his job is as the FBI director. So he's there chilling with Joe Rogan. Elon Musk starts posting about Donald Trump being on the Epstein list. So Joe Rogan asks Cash Patel about it. Now, Keshe Patel has the files. We know he has the files on his desk. Attorney General Pam Bondi said that she had it on her desk, that she gave it to Kash Patel and that Cash Patel and the FBI and the DOJ are going through it. So Rogan asks Kash Patel, what do you make of this? That Elon Musk is saying this about Donald Trump. And then Cash Patel doesn't take Donald Trump's side. Cash Patel doesn't say, I know that Trump's not on the list. I know that Elon is lying. That's bs Cash Patel goes, I'm just going to stay out of this one. I'm going to stay out of this one. That was his answer, not defending Donald Trump and I'm going to stay out of this one. I want you to Watch what took place here. Play this clip. This is going to come up because it's been going on since we've been recording here. Oh, Elon and Trump seem to be in a bit of a spat. Joe, you want to check the tweet that Elon just put out a little bit ago.
Podcast Host
Time to drop the really big bomb. Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. That's the real reason they have not been made public. Have a nice day. Jesus Christ.
Political Analyst
I'm not participating in any of that conversation between Elon.
Podcast Host
Have a nice day. DJD so much digits.
Political Commentator
Phone away. They're going back and forth about different things and.
Podcast Host
Yeah, well, he said he was disappointed in Elon. Jesus Christ, That's a crazy thing to say. How does he know? Does he know that Donald Trump is in the Epstein files? Does he have access to the Epstein files?
Political Analyst
I don't know how he would, but I'm just staying out of the Trump Elon thing. That's way outside my lane.
Podcast Host
What the fuck are they doing?
Political Analyst
I know my lane and that ain't it.
Podcast Host
I just don't. I mean, I understand he owns Twitter. I think it's bad for your mental health. I think posting things public all day and arguing with people all day is bad for you.
Political Commentator
Where there's smoke, there's fire, and, oh, boy, there's a lot going on right here. So Donald Trump was asked on Air Force One about Elon Musk and he's been really standoffish about answering any questions about Musk. Musk knows where the bodies are buried. So Donald Trump goes, I just wish him well. I wish him well. Here, play this clip. What's your view on Elon Musk as of today? I mean, have you heard from him at all, as you're.
Donald Trump
Honestly, I've been so busy working on China, working on Russia, working on Iran, working on so many. I'm not thinking about it. I just wish him well.
Political Commentator
I just wish him well. Who else did Donald Trump wish well? Who else did Donald Trump say? I wish her well. Oh, we got the receipts. Ghislaine Maxwell, the person who was the lead trafficker, sex trafficker for Jeffrey Epstein, who was very close friends with Donald Trump. Remember during the first Trump administration, where Trump said during Ghislaine Maxwell's sex trafficking trial, I wish her well. That was his response to it. Here, play this clip. Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison and a lot of people want to know if she's going to turn in powerful people. And I know you've talked in the past about Prince Andrew and you criticized Bill Clinton's behavior. I'm wondering, do you feel that she's going to turn in powerful men? How do you see that working out?
Donald Trump
I don't know. I haven't really been following it too much. I just wish her well. Frankly. I've met her numerous times over the years, especially since I lived in Palm beach and I guess they lived in Palm beach, but I wish her well. Whatever it is, I don't know the situation with Prince Andrew. Just don't know. Not aware of it.
Political Commentator
Now. I just want to talk about the facts. You've seen me do videos on Trump's connections with Epstein before, so let me just give you the facts. Fact number one, on the limited flight logs from Epstein's jet that have been released, Donald Trump's name appears over seven times on that list. Now there's more flight logs that exist that just haven't been produced. But of what's been produced, Trump's on the flight log seven times. Donald Trump's all over the depositions in the various Epstein criminal and civil cases. Like over here where one of Epstein's victims said, Jeffrey said, great, we'll call up Trump and we'll go to one of his casinos. At Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, someone who is now an adult, but at the time she met Trump, she was 14 years old. She was just a girl. Jane Doe, she says, Jeffrey Epstein introduced me to Trump at 14. One of Ghislaine Maxwell's accusers said that was Jane Doe. We know that in other cases involving Jeffrey Epstein, Donald Trump is identified as Doe 174. There's a lot of redactions and things that haven't been released. But Trump is Doe 174. It'd be easy to get if we have the Epstein files. I would just say show me all this stuff related to the conduct by Doe 174 and Epstein. Another fact. Donald Trump is in Jeffrey Epstein's personal address book. Full list of contexts here, contacts here, but you have all of kind of Trump's phone numbers that were there. Another fact. I'm just giving you undisputed facts. You can't rebut these facts. You can make of them what you are, what you will, but you can't rebut these facts. Jeffrey Epstein would find the little girls he trafficked at Mar A Lago, for example. Again, this is undisputed. Virginia Giuffre, who's now died by suicide out of nowhere. Died by suicide a few weeks Back she was homeless. She got a job at Mar a Lago. Somehow while she was working at Mar a Lago, in comes Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine Maxwell says, if you want to make some more money, Virginia, I want to introduce you to Jeffrey Epstein. She goes over to Epstein as a minor and then they start trafficking Virginia Giuffre. And then she gets, gets sexually assaulted by Prince Andrew. And she's one of, she was one of the more high profile victims who told her horrific stories and that's what she alleged about Prince Andrew. Horrible, horrible stuff here.
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Political Commentator
So this is what Kash Patel said May 28th when he was being interviewed by Fox. He said, I'm not withholding this information. I just need more time. He said, here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
The other thing on the Internet is the Epstein files. What's the answer to that?
Political Analyst
The answer to that is the same as everything else. I'm not going to withhold information from the American public ever. But I'm also not going to rush to get it out there in a format in which they can't rely on it. So on the Epstein matter or any other matters, we are diligently working on that. And it takes time to go through years of investigations, years of political maneuvering and years of COVID up to get the American people what they deserve. And that's what I'm going to give them on everything.
Political Commentator
Now, the time that they are all trying to buy is so that they can try to come up with excuses. They're trying to figure out the best way to message this. And I'll show you how Donald Trump's propaganda regime is messaging this. So you have. Let's take a look first at what Sean Hannity says. Sean Hannity spends a huge amount of time at the end of last week defending Trump on Epstein. Here's what Hannity says. Play this clip.
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And it got personal. Elon Musk claiming Trump is in the Epstein files. That's the real reason they have not been made public. Well, it's been well known that Donald Trump said that Elon was angry over Trump's decision to end the electric vehicle mandate. I can certainly understand why Elon Musk, you know, wants that in the one big beautiful bill. Pretty obvious, pretty apparent understandable difference. And on the Epstein issue, wasn't it Donald Trump, he booted Epstein out of Mar a Lago nearly 20 years ago because he was one of the first people to realize just how horrible Epstein really was. And by all accounts, he was kicked out because of his treatment of young women, now Democrats and the media. I'm just thinking out loud here. I'm just wondering, putting two and two together, I truly wonder if our old friend Bill Clinton. How you doing? Good to talk to you. We know he had a relationship with Epstein that's been reported on. Is he in, is he in those files also? I can't say for sure. I haven't seen them. But if I was a betting man, I know where I'd put my money. Now if by some, you know, chance that Bill Clinton is in there, I wonder if he kicked Epstein out of his life as publicly as Donald Trump did. I guess if Donald Trump felt that Epstein had something on him, he probably wouldn't have kicked him out of his club. Inquiring minds, I think they'll want to know that.
Political Commentator
Now. Here's what newsmax's Carl Higbee had to say about Trump and being on the Epstein list. Play this clip.
Newsmax Commentator
Still love Trump and I really like Elon. This is just a really crappy scenario right now and I really hope these two can patch these things up because I think Elon took a low blow by tweeting that quote, DJT was on the Epstein client list. I mean, something that he knows can't be immediately verified. Also, if Trump was on that island doing something illegal, after all the legal battles that Biden threw at him, if he had done something illegal with Jeffrey Epstein, you would think they would have thrown that at him. No, they pulled out the stop on everything else. The only thing we can point to that was a known association with Epstein was that he was at his club once. And by the way, Trump kicked him out of that club because of reported bad behavior. And also, Elon, if you knew he was on the Epstein client list, why did you let him board Marine One with your son? Just asking. But the best thing for Trump to do now is to release the list, something that also our FBI and Pam Bondi have promised us.
Political Commentator
Now, here's what Charlie Kirk had to say. Play this clip.
Charlie Kirk
Now, 10 years later, we're supposed to believe there's going to be a smoking gun of something in the Epstein files. But what is in the Epstein files is, yes, President Donald Trump is probably mentioned. He was mentioned in the Epstein file dump back in February. You know why? He lived in Palm Beach. There's probably thousands of names in the Epstein files. Was he part of the Epstein client list? Absolutely not. That is complete nonsense. But to say that Donald Trump is not releasing the Epstein files because he's in them in some incriminating way. Yes, it's very clear that if you live in Palm beach, you might have been mentioned and caught up in some sort of conversation with Jeffrey Epstein.
Political Commentator
Now, one of the other things I want to point out is it wasn't just Trump that had all these strong connections with Epstein. Of course, you had RFK Jr previously went on Fox back on December 5, 2023, and here's what he said about his connections with Epstein. Play this clip.
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You weren't ever on Jeffrey Epstein's jet, were you?
RFK Jr.
I was on Jeffrey Epstein's jet two times. I was on it in 1993 and I was on it and I went to Florida with my wife and two children to visit my mom over Easter. My wife had some kind of relationship with Gawaine Maxwell and they offered us a ride to Palm Beach. So I went then. And then on another occasion, I flew again with my family with, I think, four of my children and Mary, my wife, to Rapid City, South Dakota to go fossil hunting for a weekend. And but other otherwise, I was, I was never on his jet alone. I, you know, I've been very open about this from the beginning. This was in 93. So it was 30 years ago. It was before anybody knew about Jeffrey Epstein's, you know, his nefarious issues. And I agree with you that these, all of this information should be released and we should get real answers on what happened to Jeffrey Epstein and any of the high level political people that he was involved with. All of that should be open to the public. It should be absolutely transparent. And, you know, I don't see why any of those records would have any redactions in them. Why would we be hiding that from the American public?
Political Commentator
So you can put all these pieces together. Oh, and then Donald Trump in, was it 2002, said, Jeffrey Epstein's a great guy who likes women on the younger side. That was a direct quote. Not to mention Donald Trump sponsored teen bathing suit pageants. Teens walking around, girls in bathing suits and also just adult swimsuit competitions and girl swimsuit competitions. And Trump would say that he would inspect them naked. And he said because he's the host or he's the, the owner of the pageant that he gets to inspect naked. He gets to, he says he's like a doctor who inspects women naked, is what he said. Girls naked. Horrible stuff. Horrible, horrible stuff. It sickens me. Anyway, hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers, but it's coming to light.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast Summary: "Trump Is Thrown Under the Bus by His Own FBI Director"
Introduction
In the June 7, 2025 episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve into a controversial and explosive discussion centered around former President Donald Trump and his alleged connections to Jeffrey Epstein. The episode navigates through recent revelations, interviews, and commentary from various political figures, providing listeners with a comprehensive analysis of the unfolding drama.
1. Trump and FBI Director Cash Patel's Controversial Exchange [00:28 - 03:33]
The episode opens with a Political Commentator discussing a significant fallout between Donald Trump and his own FBI Director, Cash Patel. At 00:28, the commentator highlights an unexpected turn during Patel's interview with Joe Rogan, where Elon Musk publicly alleges that Trump is listed in the Epstein files. This revelation suggests a cover-up involving the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Attorney General Pam Bondi to protect Trump.
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As the discussion progresses, Patel's response to the allegations is scrutinized. During the interview, Patel declined to defend Trump, stating, “I’m just going to stay out of this one” (Podcast Host [03:05], Political Analyst [03:05]). The hosts express astonishment and frustration over Patel's evasive stance, questioning his role and effectiveness as FBI Director.
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2. Trump's Ties to Jeffrey Epstein and Flight Logs [03:44 - 08:15]
The conversation shifts to Trump's connections with Jeffrey Epstein, emphasizing the presence of Trump's name in Epstein's flight logs. The Political Commentator presents undisputed facts, such as Trump's appearances on Epstein’s private jet seven times, correlating to the released flight logs ([04:22]).
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The discussion references testimonies from victims and details of Trump's interactions with Epstein, including introductions made by Ghislaine Maxwell when victims were minors. The commentator underscores the severity of the allegations and the implication of high-profile individuals involved.
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3. Responses from Media Personalities and Political Figures [09:36 - 16:11]
The podcast integrates reactions from various media personalities who defend Trump against Epstein allegations:
Sean Hannity suggests that Trump's decision to eject Epstein from Mar-a-Lago was based on recognizing Epstein's misconduct ([10:52]).
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Carl Higbie from Newsmax criticizes Elon Musk’s allegations, asserting that if Trump had engaged in illegal activities with Epstein, investigations would have already surfaced significant evidence ([12:30]).
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Charlie Kirk dismisses the notion that Trump’s name in the Epstein files implies wrongdoing, arguing that mere presence in Palm Beach could lead to mentions without incriminating evidence ([13:31]).
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Additionally, RFK Jr. shares his personal experiences with Epstein, admitting to being on Epstein’s jet twice in the early 1990s and calls for full transparency regarding Epstein's connections to public figures ([14:28]).
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4. Analysis and Conclusion [16:11 - End]
The Political Commentator synthesizes the discussed information, highlighting the pattern of strong connections between Trump and Epstein. He references Trump's public statements, such as his notorious comment wishing Ghislaine Maxwell well during her trial and his sponsorship of teen swimsuit pageants, which he claims involved inappropriate inspections of young girls.
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The episode concludes with the hosts urging listeners to subscribe and support their channel, emphasizing the mounting evidence and public interest in the Trump-Epstein narrative.
Key Takeaways
Donald Trump's Unexpected Fallout with FBI Leadership: Cash Patel's reluctance to defend Trump in the wake of Epstein allegations signifies potential internal conflicts within the DOJ.
Persistent Allegations Against Trump: Substantial evidence, including flight logs and testimonies, continue to link Trump to Jeffrey Epstein, raising questions about the extent of their relationship.
Divergent Media Responses: While some media figures staunchly defend Trump, asserting the lack of concrete evidence, others like RFK Jr. advocate for complete transparency regarding Epstein’s connections.
Ongoing Public Interest: The episode underscores the enduring public fascination and concern over high-profile individuals' associations with Epstein, emphasizing the demand for accountability and transparency.
Conclusion
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast offers an in-depth exploration of the troubling connections between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein, interwoven with insights from various media commentators. Through detailed analysis and the presentation of multiple perspectives, the Meiselas brothers provide their audience with a nuanced understanding of the implications surrounding these high-profile allegations.