Podcast Summary: "Trump Loses It After Responding to Meidas Exposing Him"
Podcast: The MeidasTouch Podcast
Host: MeidasTouch Network (Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas)
Date: December 28, 2025
Main Theme & Purpose
This episode centers on the MeidasTouch Network’s recent breaking news regarding missing and mishandled Epstein case records—over one million documents—and former President Donald Trump’s public reaction to their reporting. The hosts break down how independent media’s investigations have revealed lapses within both the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Southern District of New York (SDNY) concerning the Jeffrey Epstein files. The brothers sharply critique Trump's dismissal of the revelations as a "hoax," frame his response as panicked and politically desperate, and highlight ongoing efforts (including congressional inquiries) for full public disclosure and accountability.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. The Discovery of Missing Epstein Files
- MeidasTouch’s Investigative Work:
The show’s reporting uncovered at least 1.2 million missing or undisclosed records related to Epstein, which were not turned over as required.- “It’s my belief that the Southern District of New York had been trying to turn it over to the Department of Justice, but… the DOJ has been covering it up.” [03:34]
- Evidence from 2020:
Hosts reference a 2020 email from SDNY prosecutors outlining the volume of records.- “There are approximately 1.2 million records currently being imaged…in just one hard drive. Likely, there are other hard drives as well.” [05:45]
2. Donald Trump’s Public Reaction
- Trump’s Social Media Post:
Trump reacted publicly, labeling the story a "Democrat inspired hoax" and framing revelations as another political “witch hunt.”- Quoting Trump:
“Now 1 million more pages on Epstein are found. DOJ is being forced to spend all of its time on this Democrat inspired hoax… Release all their names, embarrass them, and get back to helping our country…” [04:30]
- Quoting Trump:
- Hosts’ Analysis:
The MeidasTouch brothers argue Trump’s response is an attempt to weaponize the issue and distract from the seriousness of the allegations and cover-up.- “This move is deeply offensive to Epstein’s victims and treats a serious criminal investigation as a political prop, underscoring how Trump continues to mock the justice system while panicking over revelations tied to his own dark, dark past.” [06:45]
3. Partisan Deflection vs. Accountability
- Not a Partisan Issue:
The hosts emphasize the investigation is about exposing all perpetrators, regardless of political affiliation.- “This is not about shaming Democrats, Republicans, Independents. What it is about is exposing this child sex trafficking ring and all of the perpetrators who have been involved.” [05:10]
- Trump’s Own Past:
Hosts remind listeners that Trump himself was once a Democrat and had longstanding ties with Epstein. - Political Manipulation:
Trump’s attempt to steer the narrative toward shaming Democrats and dismissing the investigation mirrors his broader pattern with issues like Russia and COVID.- “Oh, got it. So you’re saying Russia, Russia, Russia was a hoax. 2020 election was a hoax. COVID, you’re saying was a hoax. And this, you’re saying this is a hoax like that. No, I see what your definition of a hoax is there.” [10:30]
4. Congressional Response & Bipartisan Efforts
- Acknowledgment from Lawmakers:
Rep. Robert Garcia (Democrat, Oversight Committee) credited MeidasTouch’s reporting.- “New media organizations like Midas Touch are now critical to holding the administration accountable. Their reporting is making an impact.” [09:00]
- Bipartisan Action:
Republican Rep. Thomas Massie and Democrat Ro Khanna are collaborating on a “discharge petition” to force transparency.- Massie mockingly responded to Trump:
“Merry Christmas to you as well, Mr. President. So you’re saying that I teamed up with radical left Democrats to expose Democrats. Wow. This 4D chess sure is fun right there.” [11:15]
- Massie mockingly responded to Trump:
- Ongoing House Investigation:
The Oversight Committee is pressing for the full release of the Epstein records.
5. Whistleblowers and DOJ Accountability
- Potential Whistleblowers:
Rep. Ro Khanna suggested that whistleblowers from the FBI and DOJ are reaching out, upset about the lack of compliance.- Ro Khanna:
“There are people who are upset about the non-compliance of the law and they don’t want to be held accountable. Right. Anyone who is at the Justice Department who’s involved with this, who’s not complying, could be prosecuted for obstruction of justice.” [13:32]
- Ro Khanna:
6. Critique of DOJ’s Handling
- Allegations of Fabricating Evidence:
Hosts allege that some of the documents the DOJ did turn over were fabrications, pointing to an “Epstein letter to Larry Nassar,” which is claimed to be fake. - Pam Bondi’s Role:
Discussion of claims that former Florida AG Pam Bondi had all the files as of February 2025, furthering suspicion about manipulations or cover-ups.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Trump’s Response:
“Once again Donald Trump is referring to the Epstein files as a hoax. He’s saying that it is a witch hunt. The amount of re-traumatizing of survivors is hard to even put in words.” — MeidasTouch [04:55] -
On the Broader Implications:
“You deserve to be exposed and held accountable for engaging in this conduct and behavior.” — MeidasTouch [06:20] -
On DOJ’s Excuses:
“You’re turning over fake, fabricated evidence. You’re hiding a million other records. Donald Trump’s out there saying that his goal is to shame and embarrass Democrats. I don’t think they can handle this worse if they even tried.” — MeidasTouch [11:00]
Timestamps for Important Segments
- [03:28] – Introduction to the breaking story: 1M+ missing Epstein records uncovered
- [04:30] – Trump’s public social media response
- [06:45] – MeidasTouch critiques Trump’s reaction and frames his panic
- [09:00] – Rep. Robert Garcia’s statement on the impact of independent media
- [11:15] – Rep. Thomas Massie’s sarcastic retort to Trump
- [12:04] – Playback of Trump complaining about Epstein questions
- [13:28] – Rep. Ro Khanna on whistleblowers and DOJ accountability
Flow & Tone
As per usual, the episode combines sharp political analysis with the brothers’ signature brotherly banter and commitment to democratic transparency. The tone is direct, critical of political maneuvers meant to cloud accountability, and passionately supportive of victims and whistleblowers.
Conclusion
This episode serves as both a breaking-news report and a scathing critique of institutional cover-ups, urging greater transparency around the Epstein scandal. The MeidasTouch team positions itself as an essential voice for independent journalism, accountability, and bipartisan oversight, contrasting their work with Trump’s attempts to deflect, politicize, and minimize the issue.
For listeners seeking political insight, details about the Epstein files scandal, and the interplay between independent media and political institutions, this episode offers a comprehensive, compelling breakdown—complete with direct quotes, key timestamps, and the signature Meiselas brotherly energy.
