The MeidasTouch Podcast
Episode: Trump Loses it as Millions of New Epstein Files Uncovered
Date: December 24, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Overview
In this explosive and fast-paced episode, the Meiselas brothers delve into the recent news that millions of previously unseen records about Jeffrey Epstein have been uncovered, with particular scrutiny on the Trump administration's involvement in hiding and misrepresenting the scope of the evidence. They dissect newly surfaced documents, expose government cover-ups, and highlight key moments of denial and evasion from allies of Trump. The conversation is laced with the brothers' signature mix of pointed analysis, insider legal perspective, and spirited banter — all focused on exposing attacks on democracy and holding power to account.
Key Discussion Points
1. Scale and Scope of New Epstein Files
[02:31–09:40]
- Ben, as a lawyer, explains the difference between “documents” and “records,” emphasizing that recent disclosures indicate the existence of over 1.2 million records from just one hard drive, likely implying tens of millions more exist.
- Examination of an October 2020 email between federal prosecutors details the transfer of massive data sets related to Epstein, suggesting a vast web of information is being hidden.
- The SDNY (Southern District of New York) and other jurisdictions likely have even more files, beyond the currently referenced batch.
Quote:
"That's why I believe you could be dealing with tens of millions of records right here that the Trump regime is currently covering up." — Ben (04:55)
2. Co-Conspirators & the DOJ Cover-Up
[05:45–11:00]
- The hosts discuss emails and memos indicating federal prosecutors identified several Epstein co-conspirators (politicians, financiers), even drafting memos to potentially charge them.
- The DOJ, under Trump, ultimately did not pursue these other individuals, despite evidence supporting prosecution.
Quote:
"There was a thought of prosecuting them. There may have been enough evidence to prosecute these individuals." — Ben (06:42)
- Cash Patel, former Trump administration official, is highlighted for falsely testifying before Congress that no evidence existed about co-conspirators.
Quote:
"Remember he said that...it explicitly mentions co-conspirators as well." — Ben (07:50)
3. Trump’s Meltdown & Public Denials
[09:40–12:00]
- Trump’s reaction on social media is described as a “psychotic meltdown.” He rails against late night hosts, the press, and the MeidasTouch Network, denying ever having flown on Epstein’s jet — claims refuted by federal flight logs.
Quote:
"You're saying you were never on Epstein's plane. How about the document that Midas Touch has been talking about over and over again… that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more times than previously has been reported." — Ben (10:45)
- Discussion of Axios report that the Trump White House commandeered the DOJ’s official X (Twitter) account to push narratives denying culpability and attacking critics.
Quote:
"Once upon a time, the DOJ was supposed to be an independent agency, and now the White House runs their social media account.” — Ben (11:22)
4. The DOJ’s Obstruction and Redactions
[12:00–14:00]
- MeidasTouch highlights the DOJ’s efforts to downplay the true number and scope of Epstein-related files, including employing holiday volunteers for redactions.
- Frequent reference to governmental lying and intentional minimization.
- Ben references an earlier interview with Rep. Ro Khanna, who accused the DOJ of protecting perpetrators by releasing survivor names while redacting those of implicated men.
Quote (Ro Khanna, 13:35):
"They're literally releasing the names of survivors, which they're not allowed to do by law, but they're not releasing the FBI interview files with those same survivors... more concerned with protecting the reputations of these men than... these survivors."
5. Survivor Testimony and Fallout
[14:40–15:40]
- Ben shares a clip from Epstein survivor Hallie Robson, a former Trump supporter now horrified by the administration’s handling and calling for impeachment.
- She calls for severe consequences for those covering up or supporting the criminals involved.
Quote (Hallie Robson, 15:00):
"I am no longer supporting this administration. I redact any support I've ever given to him. Pam Bondi, Cash Patel. I am so disgusted... I would love to see number 47 get impeached over this."
6. Cash Patel’s Contradictions
[15:40–16:52]
- Clip is played of Cash Patel testifying to Congress that there is "no credible information" that Epstein trafficked to anyone but himself, which the hosts directly refute using the document evidence.
- The brothers take aim at Patel’s hypocrisy, contrasting his denials with evidence and mocking his taxpayer-funded perks and trivial pursuits during the scandal.
Quote (Patel, testifying to Congress, 15:59):
"There is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals."
7. Broader Political Context & Student Loans
[17:28–18:13]
- Amid ongoing scandal, the Trump administration announces it will resume wage garnishment for defaulted student loans, potentially affecting 5–10 million borrowers, which is framed as an act of cruelty and political distraction by the brothers.
Quote:
"So there you have it, folks." — Ben (closes the narrative, 18:06)
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
Ben on potential record scale (04:55):
"That's why I believe you could be dealing with tens of millions of records right here that the Trump regime is currently covering up."
Ro Khanna on DOJ’s priorities (13:35):
"They're literally releasing the names of survivors, which they're not allowed to do by law, but they're not releasing the FBI interview files with those same survivors... more concerned with protecting the reputations of these men than... these survivors."
Hallie Robson (Epstein survivor) reaction (15:00):
"I am no longer supporting this administration. I redact any support I've ever given to him... I would love to see number 47 get impeached over this."
Ben on DOJ independence (11:22):
"Once upon a time, the DOJ was supposed to be an independent agency, and now the White House runs their social media account.”
Cash Patel’s denial (15:59):
"There is no credible information. None. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals."
Important Timestamps
- 02:31 — Start of in-depth discussion about newly uncovered Epstein files
- 05:45 — Details on SDNY memos, charging co-conspirators, and revelations of further cover-ups
- 09:40 — Trump’s latest meltdown and social media denials
- 13:20 — Rep. Ro Khanna clip: DOJ releasing survivor names, hiding perpetrators
- 14:40 — Survivor Hallie Robson’s statement denouncing Trump/administration
- 15:52 — Cash Patel’s misleading congressional testimony
- 17:28 — Trump regime’s announcement on garnishing student loan defaulters amid scandal
Summary Tone
- Candid, urgent, and sarcastic in places; righteous anger mixed with incisive legal and political dissection
- Emphasis on exposing lies and hypocrisy of the Trump administration and their allies
- Calls for government accountability and transparency, especially for survivors of abuse
This episode is essential listening for anyone following the Epstein investigation, DOJ accountability, or Trump-era corruption — blending breaking news, survivor perspectives, and critical analysis with the MeidasTouch brothers’ trademark energy and wit.