Podcast Summary: The MeidasTouch Podcast – "Trump Spirals as Christmas Blows Up in His Face"

Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Date: December 25, 2025
Episode Overview:
In this special Christmas episode, the Meiselas brothers dissect and lampoon Donald Trump’s Christmas Eve and Day meltdown, highlight the latest developments on the missing Epstein documents scandal, and emphasize the critical role of independent media in holding power to account. With their trademark blend of sharp news analysis and sibling banter, the brothers offer listeners a window into the ongoing political chaos and underline the importance of transparency and normalcy in public life.

Main Theme

Trump's Christmas Meltdown and Ongoing Scandals
The episode centers on Donald Trump’s erratic Christmas behavior, including his bizarre phone calls with children, misleading self-promotion, and the breaking news about over a million missing documents in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. The brothers scrutinize both the tone and substance of Trump’s public persona and discuss the broader implications for democracy, law enforcement, and American society.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Public Christmas Meltdown

• Timing: Trump’s meltdown reportedly began on Christmas Eve and worsened on Christmas Day, with consequences “a long time ago actually” (04:00).
• The hosts attribute Trump's public unraveling to the exposure of “over a million documents ... missing from the Epstein file production” (04:12).
• The MeidasTouch Network claims credit for prompting the DOJ to acknowledge the missing Epstein records, emphasizing the impact of their investigative reporting.

2. Trump's Bizarre Christmas Messages

• The brothers play and analyze clips of Trump’s Christmas phone calls with children:
  • Trump’s Christmas message included, "Merry Christmas to all, including the radical left scum..." (04:35).
    Ben: “We've never been respected less... The United States has basically all but destroyed NATO and its alliances...” (05:15)
  • Interacting with Children:
    • To an 8-year-old:
      "You sound so beautiful and cute. How old are you?" (05:04)
    • Telling a child, “Don’t you want clean, beautiful coal… please remember that at all costs” (05:45)
    • On Santa:
      "We want to make sure he's not infiltrated, that we're not infiltrating into our country a bad Santa..." (06:35)
    • Trump brings up election “victories” to children: "Pennsylvania. Great. We won Pennsylvania. We won Pennsylvania big. It was a landslide." (07:25)
    • When a child asks for a Kindle:
      “Well, you must be a high IQ person. We need more high IQ people in the country.” (08:35)
• Host reactions: The brothers declare Trump’s comments “bizarre,” “unhinged,” and “creepy,” noting his inability to act “like a normal person … even with children.”
  Ben: "This guy is unstable. He's deranged. He's physically declining. He's cognitively declining." (06:10)

3. Trump's Failing Popularity and Ratings

• The Kennedy Center Honors gala, hosted by Trump, suffered its “all-time ratings low” (08:50).
  • Viewership dropped to 2.65 million from 4.1 million (a 35% drop) since 2020, mirroring declines "on everything" Trump is involved in, the brothers quip.
  • The hosts use this as a metaphor for Trump’s decreasing influence.

4. The Missing Epstein Documents Scandal

• Ben details the Network’s reporting on the missing Epstein documents and the subsequent confirmation by federal agencies of “over a million” new documents found (09:45).
  • Rep. Robert Garcia praised MeidasTouch, saying, “New media and organizations like Midas Touch are now critical to holding the administration accountable. Their reporting is making an impact.” (10:42)
• Ben outlines the timeline:
  • 2020: DOJ emails reference 1.2 million records on a single hard drive.
  • 2025: After the MeidasTouch reporting, DOJ and FBI acknowledge new records.
  • Ben forecasts potentially “5 to 10 million records out there that have not been produced.” (11:38)
• Ben criticizes DOJ’s transparency, noting suspicious redactions, missed deadlines, and the DOJ’s own social media accounts trolling critical reporters.
  • Thomas Massie is quoted: “DOJ did break the law by making illegal redactions and by missing the deadline.” (12:45)

5. Transparency, Accountability, and the Role of Independent Media

• Ben and Brett stress the pivotal role of independent media outlets (“new media”) in bringing hidden information to public attention (10:42).
• Discussion of court dockets (document 813 from Judge Engelmeier) ties the paper trail back to DOJ knowledge of withheld documents (13:03).
• Ben: “You've got to dig in the weeds the way we do it.” (13:45)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Trump’s Christmas Message:
  "Merry Christmas to all, including the radical left scum that is doing everything possible to destroy our country but are failing badly..." (04:35)
• On Santa and “Infiltration”:
  "We want to make sure he [Santa] is not infiltrated, that we're not infiltrating into our country a bad Santa." (06:35)
• On Pennsylvania Election Results to a Child:
  “We won Pennsylvania, actually, three times, but we won Pennsylvania. We want it in a landslide. So I love Pennsylvania.” (07:25)
• Epstein Reporting Recognition (Rep. Robert Garcia):
  "New media and organizations like Midas Touch are now critical to holding the administration accountable. Their reporting is making an impact." (10:42)
• On DOJ Social Media Account:
  "Who's controlling the DOJ X account on Christmas Eve and using one words like ‘dope’ to refer to reporters?" (12:55)
• Ben on Trump's Conduct:
  “This guy is unstable. He's deranged. He's physically declining. He's cognitively declining.” (06:10)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:00] Trump’s Christmas meltdown and missing Epstein files
• [05:03] Trump’s awkward phone calls with children
• [06:31] Santa “infiltration” comment
• [07:17] Election claims to children
• [08:13] "High IQ" comment in kid's call
• [08:48] Kennedy Honors ratings drop
• [09:45] Missing Epstein documents and MeidasTouch impact
• [10:42] Rep. Garcia on independent media
• [11:38] Expansion on scope of missing records
• [12:45] Allegations of DOJ obfuscation
• [13:03] Legal documentation of withheld files

Tone and Style

The episode is laced with incredulity, humor, and deep concern for American democracy. The brothers’ characteristic “hilarious brother banter” punctuates their serious reporting—a blend of pointed critique and mockery of the absurdity of Trump’s public persona and the ongoing DOJ scandal.
They stress civic participation, transparency, and the importance of supporting independent journalism—both in tone and explicitly.

Conclusion

This episode provides a detailed, sometimes jaw-dropping look at the latest iterations of Trump’s erratic, self-serving behavior and the slow unraveling of the Epstein documents saga. The Meiselas brothers call for vigilance, accountability, and continued engagement from their audience, emphasizing the vital role played by new media in modern democracy.

If you missed the episode, this summary preserves the unfiltered commentary, analysis, and spirit of the MeidasTouch Podcast’s Christmas Day investigation and takedown of Trump’s holiday spiral.