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The FBI has had enough. And right now with the State of

Podcast Host (2:48)

the Union having just concluded they are

Ron Filipowski (2:50)

making sure that Donald Trump is exposed, they are making sure that Cash Patel is exposed and they are making sure that this entire despicable regime is exposed. Believe there's a lot of FBI whistleblowers right now who are also working with Democrats on the House Oversight Committee to expose the Trump regime's cover up of the Epstein files, their cover up of the child sex trafficking ring. It's why we're seeing a lot of headlines like this right now. Just look at the front page of Drudge. It is not coincidental that this, this is taking place right as the State of the Union was happening. Paper bombshell Epstein secret files in storage units across the USA. Tick tock Donald. The DOJ scrubs Trump from evidence. 53 missing pages from an accuser of Donald Trump who was alleging or is alleging that when she was a minor she was sexually assaulted by Donald Trump. The Dems are launching a probe of all of this and we're hearing from Democratic Congressman members like Garcia that they are in contact with whistleblowers from the FBI who are giving them a lot of important information as well. Now want to highlight a few additional facts here. So we're also hearing from FBI leaks regarding Cash Patel's despicable behavior. So they're leaking against Donald Trump and Bondi. They are leaking against Cash Patel. Here's one. There was two back to back stories on this. So number one, Cash Patel flights. One of the things that we are hearing about is agents with the FBI's elite evidence response team were delayed in reaching the scene of a mass shooting at Brown University. Remember when that took place in December? Because there was no FBI plane available, Cash Patel was in South Florida living it up at the time with one of the FBI's two available jets. Here's what Senator Dick Durbin has said whistleblowers within the FBI have revealed in the Also in the immediate aftermath of the murder of Charlie Kirk, the FBI's Shooting Reconstruction Team was asked to fly to Utah to aid the investigation and process the scene. However, the team's deployment was delayed by at least a day because the Guess what? The Bureau plane and pilot shortage caused by Cash Patel's private flights. Durbin also says that Cash Patel misplaced priorities and poor management of the FBI's resources, including its aircraft, harm the FBI's ability to respond to that shooting at Brown University on December 13, 2025. Durbin says a source revealed Cash Patel previously said at an FBI field office meeting, if you have golf, hockey, fishing or hunting and beautiful sites, you're going to see a lot of me. And so Cash Patel was bragging about using our taxpayer money so that he can gallivant around the country on these private jets. Here's how Ms. Now is reporting it as well. That again, he was in South Florida when One of the FBI's two available jets were not able to be used because they were flying him around during that mass shooting at Brown University. And Cash Patel saying, I dispute this allegation, I dispute this allegations. By the way, what is Dan Bonino doing? Remember the number two at the FBI, the deputy FBI director? So what's he saying right now? He's doing podcasts now because he is out. Um, and you know that he knows where a lot of these bodies are buried from the Epstein files. And he's been spending his time cursing out Candace Owens. And so, I mean you'll just see the, the panic on these people's faces. I mean, aren't you both like right wing podcasters? And you'll hear em go f you. There's harsh language here, but I just want you to see what the former Deputy FBI Director is doing right now.

Podcast Host (7:04)

Here, play this clip.

David Sundberg (7:06)

Fuck you.

Ron Filipowski (7:08)

Fuck you. Go fuck yourself, you demonic fucking scum. So Donald Trump's own FBI leaking against him finally. Cuz they see all of the destruction that Donald Trump and his despicable regime are causing. Um, I want to bring in right now the former head of the FBI field office. Can we bring him in? David Sundberg. So he led that Washington field office since 2023. He was pushed out by the Trump regime. Uh, in 2002 he joined the FBI. He rose through the ranks. He's formerly Air Force, former law enforcement. He's actually running for Congress in Maryland as well. Here's an interview I did with him because I want to get the perspective of this guy was the top guy, the top FBI official in Washington D.C. he ran the field office. 1600 agents and other staff reported to him. Half of them were agents reported to this guy.

Podcast Host (8:09)

So let's bring in Dave Sundberg. It's great to see you. Dave's also running for Maryland's 5th congressional district. You entered the FBI 2002 before that? You were Air Force, not a political guy at all. Never thought that you'd actually be really running for office. But, you know, as I've said to a lot of people that have dealt with this Trump regime, I wasn't that. I wasn't a political guy really at all until I was a lawyer, you know, until politics hit me and I was like, I got to do something, you know, about what's going on. So we've got a lot to discuss, Dave, especially as thousands of FBI agents are either being forced out or quitting, and they just can't handle these conditions there. So I just want to get your first reaction when people were. But just so people know to the field office in D.C. has about a thousand people there. Half of them are agents. So when you're the leader of that field office, you're supervising a huge amount of people that are at that office. So, so, so talk to us, though, when you see that behavior. Cash Patel chugging the beer, the spokesperson saying he's not going to the Olympics. You know, to me, the fu. To the American people, Trump calling and mocking the women's hockey team. What was going through your mind?

David Sundberg (9:25)

Well, thank you very much, and I really appreciate the opportunity to be on. Let me start by congratulating both the men's and women's U.S. olympic hockey teams for incredible gold medal wins. And frankly, my thanks and I think all Americans, thanks to all of our athletes who in a difficult circumstance, went to represent our nation at the Olympics, which is such a tremendous tradition for us, and they're at the peak of their athletic careers. And I compliment every single one of them. I think there are two things that, That I see when I, When I see those videos and what's happening. And frankly, the first is I'm embarrassed for the FBI. And the second, the second is really that it's. It doesn't appear to be new. I'm not, I'm not surprised to see something like this again. The. The FBI I was in kind of lived under a golden rule of not embarrassing the agency. And I think that's important for a number of reasons, and especially important when you talk about the senior leaders of, of an organization such as the FBI or any, any of our government agencies that carry such heavy responsibilities, and that is that people watch what you do all the time. I learned that lesson as I came up through the FBI. As you mentioned, I started in the Air Force, and then I was a local police officer and detective before joining the FBI, where I spent more than two decades before taking over as the head of the Washington field office, where we worked some tremendously important cases. And I knew every day that all of the employees of the FBI and frankly, the public were watching how I conducted myself and what I did and fairly. They were also watching the things I didn't do, what I wasn't attending to or what I didn't think was important. And that matters, because the reason the FBI is able to accomplish this mission is because it has the trust of the American people, and we may be losing that trust. It is very important at the end of the day for an FBI agent to be successful, to be able to get victims or witnesses to talk to him or her with honesty in times that may be really risky for those people. And they've got to trust that this FBI agent they're going to talk to, who could be out canvassing a neighborhood, doing interviews to find the kidnapper of Nancy Guthrie, or could very importantly, be working a case we should have in broad, under open conditions, working with the state to investigate the use of force by ICE agents that led to the deaths of Renee Goode and Alex Preddy to do those interviews. People need to trust the FBI agent they're talking to. And now every FBI agent who goes out into our country to do the job on behalf of the people starts that conversation with the American public. Having watched the FBI director, as you described, in a locker room spraying beer, that's not how we want to start those conversations.

Podcast Host (12:56)

And with the exodus of maybe a thousand or more agents and even probably more staffers, and the purge by the Trump regime of senior executives like yourselves and others who have built this institutional experience on very, you know, on the highest risks to our country for our audience? Can you describe just how dangerous is it right now? I mean, in terms of what's not being investigated? With the brain drain that's occurred, how do you describe it? How do you see what's existing right now at that agency?

David Sundberg (13:39)

Yeah, it's tremendously challenging to accomplish the mission right now for a number of reasons. And some of those are where we are putting the agents and analysts and their efforts and what work they're doing. The FBI has traditionally not worked immigration matters outside of its own cases. And when we push FBI agents to do that work, or in the case of Washington, D.C. to have agents walking the streets as if they're, you know, part of the Metropolitan Police Department immediately, even outside of those roles, we're taking them away from the things that they should be working on, because only the FBI can work on them. In such a capacity, those are terrorism cases that are not getting as much attention. Those are cyber cases that could be national security cases, or they could be criminal cyber cases in which, you know, Americans are being defrauded of tremendous amounts of money. They could be complex health care fraud investigations or espionage cases. And just putting the human capacity of the FBI on other projects that are not traditionally FBI priorities. And certainly we have other agencies that are supposed to attend to them. That by itself takes away from the attention we can give an already strapped FBI to conduct its national security mission and to work these really significant criminal cases on behalf of the American people. Additionally, by putting them in that position, we continue to detract from the public trust in the agency. And as I said, the trust of the public is essential in accomplishing the mission of the FBI. Our government works at the consent of the people and law enforcement at any level. And I've worked at local levels and at federal levels. We are unable to provide good policing and good national security if we lose the trust of the communities we work in.

Podcast Host (15:55)

And look, talk about your congressional race right now and why you stepped in, you know, to run for the 5th Congressional District. It's very crowded primary there. So I want to talk in a bit about. What do you think separates you from some of the Democratic primaries? For everybody knows that's Steny Hoyer's seat that he's had before I was born. I think he had that seat in 1980, and he announced his resignation soon. It's Maryland's fifth. But, you know, to me, when I'm watching, when I'm seeing the FBI behavior,

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in many ways, I think the hard

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part for us all is what we're watching is so clownish. It's so juvenile. It's surreal. It doesn't feel like this could even be a real thing. It's like we're living a simulation and a parody because, look, you're a serious. Like, you're a serious dude.

Ron Filipowski (16:45)

You know, when I think about FBI

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agents, you know, I think about real serious people who go in every day and every microsecond of the day is. Is done with intentionality and purpose. And even the smallest aberration from the mission could be viewed with discipline. And, you know, that's what I about the FBI. And then I see, you know, this craziness out there, and I almost don't have the. The language to be like, what the f. What the f is this? What the f is this all? And I think that's also why you

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decided to run because it is like

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a what the f. What the F

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is going on with our country.

Podcast Host (17:27)

Like, it's. It's. It's ridiculous and. And it's. It's authoritarian, but it's also. It's also weird and strange and demented. And I'm like, what? You know, I grew up with value. You know, your word is important. You keep your contracts. You do things. These people. It's just craziness that's out there.

David Sundberg (17:48)

Yes, agreed. And it's. That's really challenging for people in government, not just in the FBI. There are so many federal employees who are doing their best to do the job they signed up to do, and they signed up for a reason. I used to tell the people working with me in the FBI that we all signed up for the same reason. It didn't matter if you were an FBI agent, you were an analyst, you were a linguist, you were an attorney, a professional staff. It didn't matter. We're all there to accomplish a mission. We needed to do that together. And it is a very, very tough place to work. And it is full of really great people who took federal civil service jobs in order to fulfill a service obligation to what they consider to be the most important thing that they can do. And so why am I running? I'm running, frankly, because I've decided that being angry is not enough. We can be frustrated with the system. We can be disappointed in how politics are. I mean, I am frustrated as someone who is forced out of my position, because I certainly would not have allowed the FBI to be utilized in the manner it's being right now. And I think we need people who have deep experience inside of the very agencies that are being weaponized against our own people. The Department of Justice has been weaponized as a way to go after political opponents, which is a terrible thing to happen to the agency. That doesn't work for the President per se. It works for the American people. The Attorney General is not the President's attorney. And to watch parts of the Department of Homeland Security, ICE specifically to be used as a tool of intimidation is. Is not where we should be as a nation. And then in D.C. specifically, but we've seen it in other cities. It's just still going on in D.C. the presence of armed National Guardsmen appears to me to be an attempt to normalize the view of soldiers in our streets. And when you couple that with statements from the President that we should nationalize elections in certain states, I am very, very concerned of the direction we're headed. I'm very concerned that Congress has not been able to be a proper check on presidential power. And that's probably been true for many years. And we need more people to step up to, to serve in ways that will be important for our country to move forward at all. I never intended a political career. I'm a career public servant who has taken an oath to defend the Constitution. Now, three times I've administered that oath to task force officers joining us in our missions, whether it was to fight violent crime or foreign intelligence officers or beyond cyber task force. That oath is important to me. And just because I was forced out of government by President Trump doesn't mean that that oath has changed at all. And I believe I can go to Congress and help to provide this sort of oversight and more importantly, the sort of rebuilding of those agencies. That would be important and needs to be done from an understanding of how those agencies work, what was not great about them before and where we need to go in the future so that we can protect them from easy weaponization against the American people.

Podcast Host (21:38)

Where can people learn more about you, about the campaign and anything else you want to say to our more than 6 million subscribers before we go?

David Sundberg (21:46)

Thanks so much. They can learn more about me and the campaign@davesundberg.com that's D A V E S U N D b e r g.com My bio's there. I am a proud public servant who was pushed out because I was not going to allow the Washington Field office or any other part of the FBI, but specifically my office, which had responsibility for the January 6th cases, had responsibility for the staffing of agents and analysts on the special counsel cases. I was not going to allow that to be politicized. And so now I am running to represent the fifth District of Maryland in Congress, a district that has, if not the highest, one of the highest percentages of federal employees in it of any congressional district right outside of D.C. it is very important that we all get in this fight together and that we stop these excesses and abuses of federal government. We need these agencies to be working for, for us, with our consent.

Podcast Host (22:56)

Dave Sundberg, running for Maryland's 5th congressional district. Look forward to hearing more from you and learning more about the campaign as it progresses. Thanks, Dave.

David Sundberg (23:05)

Thank you so much, Everybody.

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