🚨Trump Throws Vance Under Bus and Wants Him Gone?!!

Summary

The MeidasTouch Podcast: “🚨Trump Throws Vance Under Bus and Wants Him Gone?!!”

Date: May 31, 2026
Hosts: Ben, Brett, & Jordy Meiselas

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Episode Overview

This episode unpacks breaking developments around the reportedly growing rift between President Donald Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance. The Meiselas brothers delve into new reporting from The New York Times and The Atlantic, discussing insider accounts of Trump’s frustration with Vance, hints of backstabbing and political maneuvering, and how Vance’s own public persona and actions have clashed with the Trump regime. The episode combines pointed political critique with signature Meiselas brotherly banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Trump’s Growing Frustration with VP J.D. Vance (00:29–03:00)

• Media Reports: The brothers open with coverage of a New York Times article describing Trump’s disdain for Vance, with insiders leaking stories of constant mockery and criticism behind closed doors.
• Personal Insults: Per reports, Trump belittles Vance’s style (even his shoes), mocks his personality, and is put off by Vance’s supposed social media habits.
• Conflict Over Subservience: Trump allegedly instructed his Chief of Staff, Susie Wiles, to reprimand Vance over his social media use, demanding he show more deference:

  “You need to be much more subservient. You need to treat me like Xi Jinping.” – (Paraphrased from NYT reporting, 01:30)

• Blame Game for Iran War: Trump singles out Vance for blame on the administration’s controversial war in Iran, pointing to Vance’s early opposition and failed diplomatic efforts.

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Vance as “Leaker” and Internal Dissident (03:00–06:45)

• Leaking to the Media: Vance is suspected by Trump insiders as the “biggest leaker” in the administration, with stories about internal dissent (especially about the Iran war) appearing in The New York Times and The Atlantic.
• Political Motive: The brothers speculate the leaks are Vance’s attempt to position himself as a voice of reason for 2028 presidential ambitions:

  “It’s hard not to see this leak as an effort to paint J.D. Vance as a voice of reason ahead of 2028.” – Political Commentator (05:40)

• Steve Bannon’s Take: Bannon even referenced Vance’s allegedly pessimistic view of the Pentagon’s war briefings, highlighting clear rifts within the administration.

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Vance’s Public Persona: Gaffes & Quirks (06:45–10:19)

• Contradictory Messaging: The hosts play recent Vance soundbites on alleged government theft and criticizing “crazy leadership in Washington,” despite Republicans controlling all branches.
  • Quote:

    “If you want to make America great, you gotta get rid of the crazy leadership in Washington. That’s you. You guys are in charge!” – Political Commentator (07:10)

• Awkward Public Moments: Vance is mocked for odd body language (pointing with his middle finger), self-professed nerdiness (love of Magic: The Gathering), and bragging about Disney vacations.
  • Quote:

    “So, like, really nerdy. Really nerdy.” – J.D. Vance (08:26)

  • Quote:

    “Magas dorks. I think we have many, many fewer dorks than the far left. But everybody’s got some dorks. We love our dorks.” – J.D. Vance (08:57)

• Vacation Gaffes: Trump resents Vance’s frequent vacations, with Vance joking about cutting lines at Disneyland:
  • Quote:

    “Sorry to all the people who were at Disneyland for the longer lines, but we had a very good time.” – J.D. Vance (09:25)

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Trump’s Open Assignation of Blame (09:31–10:19)

• Leaked White House Video: Trump is caught on tape saying:
  • Quote:

    “If it [the Iran deal] doesn’t happen, I’m blaming J.D. Vance. If it does happen, I’m taking full credit.” – Donald Trump (09:54)

• The brothers highlight how these private moments reveal Trump’s willingness to scapegoat and manipulate his vice president.

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Vance’s Struggle to Address the War and Economy (10:19–11:01)

• Fumbling Responses: Vance responds flatly to a question about economic hardships from the Iran war:
  • Quote:

    “We know that we have a lot of work to do in order to deliver on the prosperity the American people deserve.” – J.D. Vance (10:51)

• The hosts lampoon Vance’s non-answers and passive tone.

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More Trump Frustration & Vance’s “Absurd Loyalty” (11:01–12:15)

• Embarrassing Moments: The show circles back to a video of Vance dropping the Ohio State national championship trophy and other “gauche” public incidents.
• Awkward Loyalty: On Hannity, Vance is grilled about being ready to take over as president if something happens to Trump.
  • Quote:

    “If I served under Joe Biden, I’d probably be worried every minute of every day.… But because I serve [Trump], no, the President—he’s got a lot of energy. He’s extremely healthy. So I don’t think about that.… obviously, that’s part of the job, you’ve got to be ready if tragedy strikes.” – J.D. Vance (11:37)

• The brothers suggest that Trump is only keeping Vance because of how publicly subservient and self-abasing he’s willing to be.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Subservience:

  “You need to treat me like Xi Jinping.” – Paraphrased Trump directive (01:30)

• On War Opposition:

  “[Vance] was the strongest opponent of the war within Trump’s circle. He called the operation a gamble.” – Political Commentator (04:30)

• On “MAGA dorks”:

  “We love our dorks. We love our cool kids. We love anybody who wants to save the country.” – J.D. Vance (08:57)

• Trump’s Iran Blame:

  “If it doesn’t happen, I’m blaming J.D. Vance. If it does happen, I’m taking full credit.” – Donald Trump (09:54)

• Vance on Readiness:

  “Obviously, that’s part of the job, is you’ve got to be ready if tragedy strikes.” – J.D. Vance (11:37)

• On Vance’s Political Leaks:

  “It’s hard not to see this leak as an effort to paint J.D. Vance as a voice of reason ahead of 2028.” – Political Commentator (05:40)

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Memorable Moments

• The brothers’ comedic reaction to Vance’s nerdy hobbies and public gaffes.
• Repeatedly highlighting the open derision Trump has for his own VP.
• Speculation that Vance is undermining Trump to set the stage for his own future run.
• The contrast between Vance’s internal dissent and his obsequious public statements.

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Conclusion

The episode offers a lively yet scathing analysis of the deteriorating Trump-Vance partnership, underscoring how public image, personal quirks, and political ambition are colliding at the highest levels of the administration. Trump’s tolerance for Vance seems to hinge on how much embarrassment Vance is willing to endure for him, even as leaks and dissent swirl. The MeidasTouch brothers close with their trademark irreverence, encouraging listeners to stay tuned as the White House turmoil continues.

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Transcript

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[Political Commentator]

is Throwing Vice President J.D. vance under the Bus There are rumblings that Donald Trump despises J.D. vance and he wants J.D. vance out. A New York Times article that just came out highlights just how much Donald Trump hates J.D. vance. And this was being leaked by all of these Trump insiders to make it clear that Trump is disgusted with J.D. vance. So this New York Times article says that Donald Trump thinks that JD Vance is basically lame, that JD Vance is a loser. Donald Trump constantly criticizes JD Vance's shoes. He is always making fun of and mocking JD Vance. He does like that JD Vance is loyal and chooses Donald Trump over the Pope, as Richard Hanania explains. But the article says that he also told J.D. vance, you need to be much more subservient. You need to treat me like Xi Jinping. JD Vance also scrolls through social media too much, according to this New York Times article. And Donald Trump had his Chief of staff Susie Wiles reprimand J.D. vance that he needs to not be on social media as much and needs to stop making social media posts. Also, Donald Trump continues to blame JD Vance for the continuation of this catastrophic war in Iran. He brought up Vance's initial opposition to military action in Iran and then questioned the success of J.D. vance's diplomatic mission to Pakistan. He's criticized the number of vacations that JD Vance takes and he jokes that JD Vance always interrupts Donald Trump's conversations and that JD Vance again just needs to shut up. Donald Trump also constantly mocks J.D. vance for the time that J.D. vance fumbled Ohio State's national championship trophy during a White House event. Also, the White house believes that J.D. vance is the battle biggest leaker that they have who's constantly trying to undermine Donald Trump and others in the regime. So there was a New York Times article that came out on April 9, 2026 and here was the article. It's how Trump took the US to war with Iran in A series of Situation Room meetings. Trump weighed his instincts against deep concerns of his vice president and a pessimistic intelligence assessment. Here's the inside story of how he made the f hateful decision. So all of Trump's people believe that J.D. vance was trying to undermine Trump position. Vance for 2028, or if Donald Trump leaves office before 2028, to be there and to act like J.D. vance was right the entire time. So do you remember this New York Times article? It Talked about how J.D. vance was the person who tried to stop the war, but Trump wouldn't listen and Hegseth wouldn't listen, and Nobody listened to J.D. vance. The New has reported that J.D. vance was the strongest opponent of the war with Iran within Trump's circle. And he called the operation a gamble that was going to have dire consequences. And Vance argued that if you went in there, Iran would close down the Strait of Hormuz and there would not be any ability to do a regime change and that Netanyahu was dragging the United States into this catastrophic event and that war needed to be avoided. So, Jay, remember, J.D. vance leaked all of that to the New York Times Times as this War Monitor account. It's an open source intelligence account, writes with ratings in the toilet and Americans largely opposed to the war. It's hard not to see this leak as an effort to pay J.D. vance as a voice of reason ahead of 2028. That was April 10th of 2026, folks. We're now in June at this point, okay? And here JD Vance, here, JD Vance was leaking that on April 9, a whole month. We're like 45, 50 days later at this point. But JD Vance didn't stop there. They also leaked the article to the Atlantic recently as well. Remember, Vance doubts the Pentagon's depiction of the Iran war. Even Steve Bannon knew that. Obviously, Vance is the source of these leak leaks. Steve Bannon wrote Trouble in Paradise. The Pentagon may not be giving Trump the full picture of the war. Vice President Vance is worried that the US Is running low on weapons. And so Trump believes that J.D. vance is the leaker, that he's trying to undermine everybody. And again, you read between the lines here. Donald Trump hates J.D. vance. He wants, he wants Vance out, but he realized Vance is a weak guy and ultimately he could put up with Vance's leaking So long as J.D. vance makes a fool of himself publicly and says things like, I trust Donald Trump over the Pope. I mean, just to remind you of JD Vance's background, JD Vance had three different names before settling on JD Vance, he's had multiple different personalities. He went from thinking that he was a gay man for most of his early life, and then he changed his name twice and then became an anti LGBTQ extremist after growing up and as a young man, believing that he was a gay man, he said, and then he said, I realized one day I wasn't gay anymore, or something like that. Here were some photos of him in high school, photos of him in high school. And so multiple personalities with J.D. vance. And, you know, J.D. vance has been out there, though, saying things that seem also to undermine the regime. So JD Vance recently, when May 18, he said, when someone steals over a billion dollars from the government, that's theft from you. At the same time, Donald Trump stole or was trying to steal $1.8 billion for the January 6th slush fund. And then JD Vance that day said this. Do you see what's going on here behind the scenes here?

[Podcast Host]

Play this clip.

[J.D. Vance]

When somebody steals $1.4 billion from the Medicaid program, that is theft from you, and that's theft from people who deserve to be able to go see a doctor. When people steal billions of dollars from the Medicare program, that is theft from you. And it's also theft to those people who use the Medicare program to pay their bills.

[Political Commentator]

JD Vance then said, if you want to make America great, you gotta get rid of the crazy leadership in Washington. That's you. You guys are in charge. Republicans are in charge of every branch of government right now. Yeah. Your regime. That's leadership.

[Podcast Host]

Here, play this clip.

[J.D. Vance]

So I'm not gonna ask you to agree with us on every issue because that would be impossible. What I will ask you is if you want to make America great, if you want to protect your jobs and hopefully build jobs in this beautiful factory, if you want to make our streets even safer, if you want to rebuild the American dream for the next generation, vote against. The crazy leadership in Washington D.C. vote for.

[Political Commentator]

And then the things that, like, bother Trump about J.D. vance is like, he just does weird stuff. Like when J.D. vance points, he points with his middle finger. And he does it in like a very interesting way.

[Podcast Host]

But like, who. Who does this Here, play this clip.

[J.D. Vance]

The two youngest kids. Bottom bunk, Top bunk. Bottom bunk, Top bunk, bottom bunk, top bunk.

[Political Commentator]

You know, he, he brags about how he loves magic. The gathering.

[Podcast Host]

Here, play this clip.

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[J.D. Vance]

I'm, I used to be really into, and I still have the cards and I'm trying to get my 8 year old to play with me. I'm Really? I used to be really into magic gathering. So, like, really nerdy. Really nerdy.

[Political Commentator]

Even Benny Johnson was out there, you know, saying in response to, I think it was, you know, Joe Rogan basically saying, like, why are all these MAGA people so not cool anymore? Like, why are they all such losers? And this is what JD Vance said about being a loser.

[Podcast Host]

Play this clip.

[J.D. Vance]

Joe says Mag is full of dorks. What do you think?

[Political Commentator]

You consider yourself a dork?

[J.D. Vance]

Magus? Dorks. I would. I. I think we have many, many fewer dorks than the far left. But everybody's got some dorks. We love our dorks. We love our cool kids. We love anybody. He wants to save the country.

[Political Commentator]

Then J.D. vance bragged about cutting people in lines in Disney when he takes all these vacations. And one of the things that also pisses off Trump about Vance is that he hates when Vance takes vacations.

[Podcast Host]

Play this clip.

[J.D. Vance]

So we had the island ourselves, which was very cool. I'd never been to Disneyland.

[Wayfair Announcer]

They were shutting down the Disney World one.

[J.D. Vance]

Yeah, that's, that's. Sorry to all the people who are Disneyland for the longer lines, but we had a very good time.

[Political Commentator]

And I'll just remind you of this. I'm going to show you this footage. This is from April 1, 2026. Let me repeat that. April 1, 2026. Donald Trump says he will blame J.D. vance if he doesn't get an Iran deal. This was leaked White House video. This video was not broadcast publicly, but then this one surfaced right here. Here.

[Podcast Host]

Play this clip.

[Donald Trump]

He's working on the deal, right? How's that moving? Is it okay? The big deal, you see it happening. So if it doesn't Happen, I'm blaming J.D. vance. If it does happen, I'm taking full credit. No, I think it'll be. I think it has to happen. I think they're desperate.

[Political Commentator]

Okay, then recently, JD Vance was asked, this was May 13, what's your message to the American people as the Iran continues, as the Iran war continues to impact the economy in this country? He's like, well, other countries suffer a lot also. And, well, my message is we have a lot of work to do.

[Podcast Host]

Here's what he has to say. Play this clip.

[Wayfair Announcer]

Thank you, Mr. Vice President. My question is, what's your message to Americans as the Iran war continues to impact the economy, especially after yesterday's inflation report?

[J.D. Vance]

Well, I guess my message to Americans is we know that we have a lot of work to do in order to deliver on the prosperity that the American people deserve.

[Political Commentator]

And just to show you again. This was him dropping the Heisman Trophy.

[Podcast Host]

Play this clip.

[Political Commentator]

And then one of the things that bothered Donald Trump as well is when J.D. vance went on Hannity. This was back last year. And J.D. vann says, if anything happens to Donald Trump, I'm there when tragedy strikes. And that really bothered Trump as well.

[Podcast Host]

Here, play this clip.

[J.D. Vance]

You seem to go with the flow pretty well. Do you have quiet moments? You think about that? Honestly, Sean, I try not to. I mean, one, I serve under Donald Trump, who is very healthy.

[Political Commentator]

He cast a pretty big shadow.

[J.D. Vance]

He casts a big shadow. But if I served under Joe Biden, I'd probably be worried every minute of every day that he was gonna croak and that I'd have to become president. But because I serve a. Okay. Did it just happen? Like, I'd never be able to sleep. I'd always have my cell phone as loud as possible. But no, the president won. He's got a lot of energy. He's extremely healthy. So I don't think about that. Obviously, that's part of the job, is you've got to be ready if tragedy strikes.

[Political Commentator]

So it definitely does seem that Donald Trump is just completely. He hates J.D. vance. You see for yourself. It'll be fascinating to see if J.D. vance is the next one to go or he gets pushed out. But I think Trump, Trump still is okay with Vance because how, you know, how Vance is willing, at least publicly, to make such a fool of himself. But we'll keep you posted on what's going on. Let me know what you think.

[Podcast Host]

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[Political Commentator]

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