The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: Trump’s Dark Past Causes Public Meltdown of Govt
Date: August 21, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the rapidly evolving situation surrounding the Department of Justice’s handling of the notorious Epstein files—and the cascading political fallout for Donald Trump and the Republican Party. The Meiselas brothers blend legal insight, political analysis, and their signature banter to unpack government attempts at obfuscation, the roles of key Trump loyalists (like Cash Patel), and a judicial order rejecting DOJ efforts to suppress grand jury testimony. They also closely examine the escalation of authoritarian rhetoric aimed at “blue cities” and the extraordinary political theater surrounding the Trump orbit’s attempt to rewrite the narrative on the FBI’s Mar-a-Lago search. Emerging as a central theme is the clear effort by Trump allies to distract from damaging information in the Epstein files—files which, according to the hosts, contain significant references implicating Trump.

Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. The DOJ, Epstein Files, and the Smoke-and-Mirrors Game

[01:29 – 07:50]

• The hosts open directly with the week’s bombshell: the DOJ’s failure to comply with a subpoena for the Epstein files. While a partial extension was granted, the Trump allies on Fox News and government positions focus on big “announcements” rather than actual compliance.

• Ben Meiselas points out the DOJ’s legal attempt to delay release, then hide behind procedural arguments to avoid publishing sensitive material potentially damaging to Trump:

  “Technically, they were supposed to do it 48 hours ago… The DOJ said they're going to just roll it out in bits and pieces… They’re just going to continue to cover it up.” (Ben, 01:29)

• Trump loyalists’ narrative: The DOJ and FBI are accused of “weaponizing” the government against Trump, rather than following lawful procedures.

• Notable Moment: Ben mocks current FBI Director Cash Patel—formerly a right-wing podcaster and now “acting like a deer in headlights”—for grandstanding on TV rather than explaining actual DOJ intentions.

2. Weaponization Rhetoric and Deflection (with Cash Patel & Larry Kudlow)

[03:03 – 06:24]

• Clip played of Cash Patel (on Larry Kudlow’s Fox News show) urging former DOJ and FBI agents to “come forward” or face investigations:

  “If you got nothing to hide… you're welcome to come talk to the FBI at any time. If you don’t want to… we’re going to come find you and put you in an investigative position and posture.” (Cash Patel, 03:13)

• The brothers highlight the absurdity—Trump acolytes continue to claim the Mar-a-Lago search was baseless, despite well-documented findings of mishandled classified documents.

• Ben’s commentary:

  “Donald Trump stole nuclear secrets after his first administration was over. Hid them poorly—like out in the auditorium at Mar-a-Lago, in random bathrooms…” (Ben, 04:17)

• They criticize the “weaponization” line as a calculated distraction—misdirecting from Trump’s actual legal exposure.

3. The Federal Judge Blasts the DOJ’s ‘Diversion’ Tactics

[06:24 – 11:30]

• Recap of Federal Judge Berman’s order denying the DOJ’s motion to unseal grand jury testimony—grounded instead in encouraging the government to simply release the rest of the Epstein case files, which are not subject to grand jury secrecy:

  “You have the files. Release the damn files.” (Ben, summarizing Berman, 07:29)

• Berman’s decision notes it is “unusual” for the government itself to seek unsealing, and calls the move a “diversion” because nearly all the relevant evidence already exists in troves (100,000 pages versus 70 of the grand jury).

• Ben breaks down the importance: DOJ originally said files would be made public, then reversed, citing that, after a classified Trump briefing in May, there’s clear evidence Trump’s name comes up throughout.

  “What we know is that… the DOJ briefed Donald Trump that his name was all over the Epstein files… we know that Donald Trump’s name is all over the stuff that’s already been released.” (Ben, 11:16)

• Hosts detail past reporting linking Trump, Epstein, events at Mar-a-Lago, and underage girls, referencing “close to a billion views” for their in-depth Epstein coverage.

• The implication: the current government is stonewalling to protect Trump.

4. Authoritarian Escalation: Sending the Military to ‘Blue Cities’

[15:39 – 16:20]

• Clip of Attorney General Pam Bondi demanding compliance from blue city mayors on immigration cooperation—threatening to “send in law enforcement” or even the military, like during the LA riots.

  “If they're not going to keep their citizens safe, Donald Trump will keep them safe. That’s what this is all about, making America safe again. That was his only directive, and that’s what we’re doing.” (Bondi, 15:57)

• Ben (and brothers) point out the underlying, chilling intent—this is not about public safety, but about consolidating federal authority and setting the stage for martial law or invoking the Insurrection Act. They note that crime rates are actually higher in red cities, poking holes in the talking points.

  “Are you just going to keep the military in blue cities forever? Is that your goal? …Or is that part of your plan to then incite the Insurrection Act or to declare martial law?” (Ben, 16:24)

5. Trumpworld Chaos: DOJ Appointments, Bongino sidelined

[16:20 – 18:26]

• New reporting on the DOJ/FBI internal soap opera:

  • Dan Bongino (another ex-podcaster) remains Deputy FBI Director, but is being “layered” by Andrew Bailey (Missouri AG) to stifle Bongino’s operations.
  • The hosts highlight the deeply unserious, loyalty-driven hiring at Trump’s DOJ.

• Ben’s closing words:

  “These people are sick. Like, these are real sickos. I don’t know how else to describe it… It’s not like a Democrat Republican thing. It’s like, there are bad people who want to harm people. That gives them joy. It’s strange.” (Ben, 17:38)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|-------|---------| | 01:29 | "Technically, they were supposed to do it 48 hours ago…The DOJ said they’re going to just roll it out in bits and pieces…They’re just going to continue to cover it up." | Ben Meiselas | | 03:13 | "If you got nothing to hide... you're welcome to come talk to the FBI at any time. If you don’t want to... we’re going to come find you and put you in an investigative position and posture." | Cash Patel (clip) | | 04:17 | "Donald Trump stole nuclear secrets after his first administration was over. Hid them poorly—like out in the auditorium at Mar-a-Lago, in random bathrooms…" | Ben Meiselas | | 07:29 | "You have the files. Release the damn files." | Ben (summarizing Judge Berman) | | 11:16 | "What we know is that... the DOJ briefed Donald Trump that his name was all over the Epstein files... we know that Donald Trump’s name is all over the stuff that’s already been released." | Ben Meiselas | | 15:57 | "If they're not going to keep their citizens safe, Donald Trump will keep them safe. That’s what this is all about, making America safe again. That was his only directive, and that’s what we’re doing." | Pam Bondi (clip) | | 16:24 | "Are you just going to keep the military in blue cities forever? Is that your goal?...Or is that part of your plan to then incite the Insurrection Act or to declare martial law?" | Ben Meiselas | | 17:38 | “These people are sick. Like, these are real sickos. I don’t know how else to describe it…It’s not like a Democrat Republican thing. It’s like, there are bad people who want to harm people. That gives them joy. It’s strange.” | Ben Meiselas |

Structure & Flow

• Opening: Immediate jump into the DOJ/Epstein controversy, skipping non-content segments.
• Mid-Episode: Analysis of Trump loyalist media strategy, judicial order, and connections to Trump’s past and continued criminal exposure.
• Endgame: Focused critique of authoritarian escalations and the increasingly farcical, loyalty-based hires at DOJ/FBI.
• Closing: Urges audience awareness, reiterates non-partisan moral stakes, and calls out the current government’s “bad, dumb, evil humans.”

For Listeners New & Old

This episode provides a direct, detailed breakdown of government efforts to shield Donald Trump from fallout over Epstein connections, while simultaneously escalating threats against political opponents. The hosts combine exhaustive research, legal acumen, and fearless critique, making it clear why so many turn to MeidasTouch for their unvarnished political analysis.

Key Segment Timestamps

• 01:29 – DOJ Extension and Subpoena Drama
• 03:03 – Cash Patel’s “Accountability” Announcement (Clip)
• 05:11 – Dissecting the Mar-a-Lago Search Disinformation
• 07:50 – Judge Berman’s Order; DOJ’s Diversion Tactics
• 11:16 – Dissecting Trump’s Epstein Connections
• 15:39 – Pam Bondi Threatens Blue Cities; The Militarization Rhetoric
• 16:20 – Hosts Unpack Motives Behind Threats of Military Rule
• 17:38 – Final Words: The Moral Stakes

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