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News Analyst
Very frustrated with the news that came out last night.
Union Leader
I thought, I didn't think that, you know, I didn't expect that to come out.
News Analyst
So that was like a gut punch. That was Jason Zagai, a union leader in Pittsburgh who says that he and others in his union feel like Donald Trump just gut punch them by opposing the merger between U.S. steel and Nippon. The U.S. steel Nippon merger, which 95% of the union members who worked in that factory supported. Jason Zagai attended Trump rallies with other union workers who ended up voting for Donald Trump and supporting Donald Trump. And you heard him there saying, I'm very frustrated with this news. And the news is Donald Trump just made a social media post. And on that social media post, Donald Trump says, I'm totally against the once great and powerful US Steel being bought by a foreign company, in this case Nippon Steel of Japan. Through a series of tax incentives and tariffs, we will make US Steel strong and great again. And it will happen fast. Exclamation point. As president, I will block this deal from happening. Buyer beware. So it's not just Donald Trump coming out against it now, which he didn't do during the key campaign stops towards the end of his campaign, but he's coming out against it strongly. I'm going to block it. I'm going to make sure it never happens. And for people in Pittsburgh here and people who were part of the local 2227, they said, we're going to lose our jobs now, Donald. And now Jason's the guy. You heard him, there he goes. I'm very frustrated with the news that came out last night. He's from United steel Workers Local 2227. He's their vice president. He said during that panel discussion, quote, I didn't expect that to come out. So that was like a gut punch. Let me share with you this, this is the local media coverage of what just went down here. Play this short clip.
Podcast Host
One of those union leaders also spoke at a Trump rally shortly before the election. He says he was shocked to hear the president elect come out so strongly against the deal so soon after the election.
News Analyst
Very frustrated with the news that came out last night.
Union Leader
I thought, I didn't think that, you.
News Analyst
Know, I didn't expect that to come out. So that was like it got punched.
Podcast Host
Union leaders at the U.S. steel Irvine Works say 95% of their members are in favor of the Nippon merger. And many of them were at the Trump rally in Pittsburgh the day before the election. The union leaders say they were initially skeptical of the deal, but they came around after meeting with Nippon officials during the summer. Nippon pledged to spend $1 billion to upgrade the 86 year old hot strip.
News Analyst
Now the stock of US steel is tanking after Donald Trump's post. Because when Donald Trump's been making these social media posts, right? Whose stocks have been tanking? US Autoworkers, US Auto companies who the auto workers supported. Their stocks tank after Donald Trump talks about 25% blanket tariffs in Canada and Mexico when lots of these companies, whether it's Ford, gm, Stellantis, they've got factories in Mexico and now the United States Steel Corporation, their stock is tanking. Let's just take a look at this. Play this clip.
Union Leader
And given what's going to happen in the new Trump administration, U.S. steel shares are down 8 1/2% right now. That's off the worst levels of the day. And this is all after the president elect took to his social media truth platform, truth social last night and reiterated the opposition that he has towards US Steel being acquired by Japanese steel giant Nippon Steel that has resulted in a down move in the stock. U.S. steel for its part, says it's still committed to that particular deal going through and that it thinks it's the best interest of all the stakeholders there. So keep an eye on U.S. steel. And here's one that we haven't talked about a lot in terms of artificial intelligence.
News Analyst
Look at now, Donald Trump also, while he was kind of coy about it's a controversial deal, I want to be clear. The U.S. steel Nippon deal is controversial, right? There are many who say for national security reasons that steel factory, the steel company that's been in existence since 1901, the pride of Pittsburgh, the Steelers, Pittsburgh Steel, US Steel there, there are many people who think that it should be Blocked, but they are out in the open with their views. Like President Biden didn't want the deal to go forward, but he made his views very clear and he was specific. So you knew where he stood. Donald Trump didn't. And then Donald Trump had his surrogates out there. Here's an example of one, Mike Pompeo, who was out there basically saying that this is a great deal, you know, that Nippon should buy U.S. steel. This is great for the workers there. Here, play this clip.
Political Commentator
I'm going to give you 20 seconds, 25 seconds. I know you want to get this in. You believe Nippon steel should buy U.S. steel?
Union Leader
I do. I think it's important for the workers at that plant, at that facility, U.S. steel plant, they're going to invest $1.4 billion. President Trump always says, we want it made here, we want investment here. That's exactly what it is. And it'll be great for the American steel industry. That, Larry, you and I know has been incredibly challenged. I'm confident that that investment here in America, in Pittsburgh and all across our country will create more jobs, more wealth, more resources, more carbon neutral steel from high technology in a way that will benefit our country and the people who work in those facilities today.
Political Commentator
All right. There, you did it. That was good, too. Well, you really nailed that. Well done. I mean, actually, what I think what you're really saying is Nippon Steel is a better bet to keep US Steel going than US Steel is. Keep US Steel going. That's the way I'm reading this. You don't have to comment on that. I don't want to get you in any more trouble than is ordinarily the case, but that's what I think is going to happen. And I got a great smile at you, Larry.
Union Leader
But I'm happy to go back in and I'm happy to go in and cause more trouble right alongside you, Mr. Secretary.
Political Commentator
Terrific stuff. Thank you, sir. We appreciate it very, very much.
News Analyst
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Union Leader
I disagree with the idea of unions, but perhaps for a reason that is different than people may expect, which is I just don't like anything which creates kind of a lords and peasants sort of thing. And I think the unions naturally try to create negativity in a company and create a sort of lords and peasants situation.
News Analyst
Tesla factory workers in California are working so hard, they're passing out on the production line. So then I see articles like this from Bloomberg Law right here. This just came out right around Thanksgiving time. Battered unions brace for years of clashes under Trump and Elon Musk. Okay, you know, you didn't have to be battered. You had a good situation going for you with President Biden. You're like, yeah, you know what? Biden supports the pro act. He's on the picket lines with us, strikes with us. He did everything. He, he saved our pensions. But you know what? Let's be battered. Let's be battered. Here's what he goes. Union. So this is what Bloomberg is reporting. So now unions are bracing themselves for an uncertain future under Donald Trump as he and his new ally, Elon Musk threatened to thwart organizing in the nation's largest workplaces. Labor leaders are grappling with the reality of having few influential allies. Now in Washington. It was a sucker punch, but we did everything we could. This is from AFL CIO President Liz Schuler. At least she did everything she could. The Musk effect. There's widespread fear among unions that the Trump administration will weaken enforcement mechanisms at the National Labor Relations Board. What I just said. Musk has opposed unions at Tesla and has run afoul of federal regulators for allegedly intimidating and firing union support. The NLRB members and general counsel are political appointees, meaning Trump may be able to fire them. May mean he will fire them. Loyalists could bury complaints that come to the agency. Quote, if he dismantles the nlrb, what's the incentive for a company to negotiate a contract? Said Marty Walsh, executive director of the National Hockey League Players association, who served as Biden's labor secretary. Marty, I agree with you, but why did all these other union leaders go and, and support Donald Trump? And why did the rank and file not be told by the union leaders what's up? Why weren't they given this information and this data? You know, and so you have the, you have the Teamsters posting things like this in November alone. This, they just posted this today. In November alone, Teamsters organized 12,000 new members. Teamsters won one of the largest union elections in more than 20 years at Corwell Health east, unionized Amazon facilities in multiple states, including the first in the south, and won four union elections at Cisco in November. Notice the language that the Teamsters use there. Won, we won. That implies that there is winning and losing when it comes to union elections. And then the process by which unions are formed, by which their existence is challenged, by which individual grievances by union members gets addressed. Aggrieved, won, or lost, happens before the National Labor Relations Board, which is going to be gutted right now. So all of these things that you're talking about here are kind of. Or not, because, well, they're going to gut the whole thing. Duh. And why would you vote for that? But it's okay, because, you know, flashy crypto guys, because that's how the media refers to them. Flashy crypto guys like Justin Sun, a Chinese national accused of fraud by the securities and Exchange Commission. He sent Donald Trump $18 million last week to support Trump's crypto while under SEC investigation. He denies the allegations against him. Shortly after eating a chocolate banana that was taped to a wall. Because, you know, that's, that's what union member, that's what rank and file union members can, can relate to. So I don't like doing reports on f around and find out stuff because I don't take glee in people's suffering. I don't. But when you go, whoa, gut punched. How did that happen? We're battered now I mean, did you just want to whine? Did you want to spend the next four years just playing the victim? Is that it? Hit subscribe. Let's get to 4 million. Love this video. Make sure you stay up to date on the latest breaking news and all things Midas by signing up to the Midas Touch newsletter@midas touch.com Newsletter.
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The MeidasTouch Podcast – Episode: "Unions for Trump IN HORROR NOW after HIS ANNOUNCEMENT"
Release Date: December 5, 2024
In this compelling episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve deep into the tumultuous relationship between labor unions and former President Donald Trump following his recent political announcements. The episode provides an in-depth analysis of the repercussions of Trump's stance on the U.S. Steel and Nippon Steel merger, exploring its impact on union members, the broader steel industry, and the future of labor unions in America.
The podcast opens by addressing the unexpected opposition from Donald Trump regarding the planned merger between U.S. Steel and Japan’s Nippon Steel. This move has sent shockwaves through the labor community, particularly affecting union members who had previously supported Trump.
"I didn't expect that to come out. So that was like a gut punch."
(Timestamp: 00:44)
The hosts highlight the strong support (95%) from union members for the merger, emphasizing the anticipated economic benefits, including a $1 billion investment to upgrade the aging steel facilities. However, Trump's sudden opposition has led to fears of job losses and economic instability within the Pittsburgh steel community.
"I'm totally against the once great and powerful US Steel being bought by a foreign company... I will block this deal from happening. Buyer beware."
(Timestamp: 01:30)
Trump's stance has had immediate financial repercussions, with U.S. Steel's stock plummeting by 8.5% following his declaration. The hosts draw parallels to previous instances where Trump's comments have adversely affected stocks of companies he criticizes.
"U.S. steel shares are down 8 1/2% right now. That's off the worst levels of the day."
(Timestamp: 04:06)
A significant portion of the discussion contrasts Trump's historically anti-union policies with President Biden's pro-union stance. The hosts question why union leaders are siding with Trump despite his administration's track record of undermining union efforts.
"Trump's first term was the most anti-union like president in history and President Biden was the most pro-union president in history by their actual actions and their conduct."
(Timestamp: 07:00)
The episode delves into Elon Musk's contentious views on unions, highlighting his opposition and the potential threats to the NLRB under Trump's administration. Musk's influence is portrayed as a significant factor in shaping the future landscape of labor rights in the U.S.
Elon Musk on Unions:
"I disagree with the entire idea of unions... they create a sort of lords and peasants situation."
(Timestamp: 11:23)
Bloomberg Law Report:
"Battered unions brace for years of clashes under Trump and Elon Musk."
(Timestamp: 11:43)
The hosts examine the conflicting actions of union leaders who, while publicly supporting Trump, face internal backlash and declining membership. The episode questions the motives behind union leaders' endorsements and the disconnect with the rank-and-file members.
"Why you would buy the rhetoric of a con man in Donald Trump over the actions of a gentleman in President Biden who is actually doing the things that you wanted him to do is beyond me."
(Timestamp: 10:00)
The discussion shifts to the broader implications of Musk's anti-union stance and how unions are strategizing to combat potential legislative and organizational challenges. The hosts emphasize the importance of unions adapting to protect workers' rights in an evolving political and economic climate.
"Unions are bracing themselves for an uncertain future under Donald Trump as he and his new ally, Elon Musk, threatened to thwart organizing in the nation's largest workplaces."
(Timestamp: 14:00)
Wrapping up, the podcast underscores the critical juncture at which American labor unions find themselves. With political leaders offering mixed messages and influential figures like Musk challenging the very fabric of union structures, the future remains uncertain. The hosts advocate for stronger union solidarity and strategic planning to navigate the challenges ahead.
Key Takeaways:
Unexpected Opposition: Trump's sudden reverse on the U.S. Steel and Nippon Steel merger has left union leaders and members in disarray.
Economic Implications: The merger was poised to bring significant investment and job security, now threatened by political interference.
Union Leadership Crisis: Conflicting endorsements from union leaders have caused friction and confusion within the labor community.
Musk's Anti-Union Stance: Elon Musk's influential position continues to challenge union efforts, especially concerning the NLRB's future.
Strategic Adaptation Needed: Unions must reassess and strategize to maintain their influence and protect workers' rights amidst political and economic shifts.
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast offers a thorough examination of the intricate dynamics between labor unions, political leadership, and influential business figures, providing listeners with a nuanced understanding of the current challenges facing American workers.