The MeidasTouch Podcast

Episode: WH Presser Turns to Mayhem After Epstein Bombshell
Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas

Overview

This episode dives headfirst into the chaos that unfolded after bombshell Jeffrey Epstein emails were released, directly linking Donald Trump to Epstein and sparking a frenetic White House press conference led by Trump spokesperson Caroline Levitt. The Meiselas brothers unpack the mayhem, revealing attempts at cover-ups, non-answers to pivotal questions, and growing evidence of high-level corruption and obfuscation. The conversation is laced with their signature sharp wit, moral outrage, and relentless fact-checking.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein Email Revelations and White House Cover-Up

• Main theme: Major new Epstein emails surfaced, highlighting connections to Trump, with Epstein calling Trump “a very dirty individual” and documenting Trump’s repeated visits to homes where victims were present.
• Discussion of White House spin: Caroline Levitt (Trump's press secretary) claimed transparency and White House cooperation, but Ben Meiselas counters, emphasizing the files actually came from Epstein’s estate due to House Democrats’ persistence, not administration transparency.
  • Quote [01:14]:
    Ben Meiselas: “No Caroline, you’re covering up the Epstein files… Trump and MAGA Mike and the MAGA Republicans are covering up the Epstein files.”

2. Press Conference Mayhem: Notable Interactions

• Levitt’s answers on transparency:
  • Levitt dodges direct requests for full Epstein file release, insistently repeating, “This administration has done more with respect to transparency when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein than any administration ever.”
  • Reporters ask why not release everything if so transparent? Levitt fails to answer substantively.
  • Quote [02:40]:
    Caroline Levitt: “This administration… has turned over tens of thousands of documents to the American people… This is truly a manufactured hoax by the Democrat Party.”
• Pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell:
  • When asked, Levitt notably does not rule out a Trump pardon for Maxwell.
  • Quote [04:13]:
    Caroline Levitt: “It’s not something [Trump’s] talking about or even thinking about at this moment in time. I can assure you of that.”
• Direct Trump-Epstein connections:
  • Reporter challenges if Trump ever spent “hours at Epstein’s house with a victim.”
  • Levitt side-steps, claims “the emails prove absolutely nothing other than the fact that President Trump did nothing wrong,” then shifts to the victim’s (Virginia Giuffre’s) statements—without answering the original question.
  • Quote [04:55]:
    Caroline Levitt: “President Trump… was always extremely professional and friendly to her.”
  • Ben’s rebuttal [07:42]:
    Ben Meiselas: “We’re watching liars… a group of despicable human beings in the White House covering up for a child sex trafficking ring… That shouldn’t be political. That should just be morality.”
• Lauren Boebert Pressured Over Discharge Petition:
  • Reporters press Levitt on Trump summoning Boebert to dissuade her from actions to force Epstein file public release.
  • Levitt claims this—White House officials privately lobbying lawmakers—shows “transparency.”
  • Quote [06:59]:
    Caroline Levitt: “Doesn't that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns?”

3. Other Scandals and Administration Evasions

• Prince Andrew Testimony:
  • “I haven’t spoken to [Trump] about that specific matter, but I can ask him and get back to you.” [08:40]
• Trump’s Health and MRI Mystery:
  • Queries about Trump’s recent MRI are met with non-answers; Levitt reads a generic statement about “exceptional physical health.”
  • Quote [09:33]:
    Caroline Levitt: “President Trump received advanced imaging at Walter Reed… and all agreed that President Trump remains in exceptional physical health.”
• Trump’s 50-Year Mortgage Proposal:
  • Administration “looking into” a controversial plan increasing fiscal risks for homeowners.
  • Quote [12:12]:
    Caroline Levitt: “It's something that the administration is discussing and seriously looking into.”
• SNAP Benefits & Shutdown Controversy:
  • Levitt wrongly claims administration used contingency funds for food aid during shutdown, blaming judicial “overreach” for being forced to consider kids’ nutrition fund.
  • Quote [13:27]:
    Caroline Levitt: “You shouldn't tell the President to which fund he has to rob because the Democrats are holding the country hostage…”
• Economic Data Blackouts:
  • Announcement that inflation, jobs, and growth data may no longer be published, blaming Democrats for “permanently damaging the federal statistical system.”
  • Ben’s commentary [14:45]:
    Ben Meiselas: “[Trump] fired the former commissioner at the Bureau of Labor Statistics and then fired the data collectors… almost half of all the data ingested… is just made up by the Trump regime.”
• White House Claims of Economic ‘Progress’:
  • Levitt insists that Trump is “cleaning up” Biden’s “disaster,” contrary to independent economic reporting.
  • Quote [15:55]:
    Caroline Levitt: “President Trump has already made great progress in cleaning up the economic disaster that was created by Joe Biden.”

4. Direct Response to Trump and GOP Deflection

• Ben reads Trump’s social post attacking Democrats and labeling Epstein revelations a “hoax,” then cues up MAGA Mike Johnson deflecting blame back at Democrats for the Epstein file narrative.
  • Quote [17:25]:
    MAGAMike Johnson: “They see a shiny object and they latch onto it. Democrats did not say one word about the Epstein files for the entire Biden presidency.”
  • Ben rebuts: damaging details are emerging from the Epstein estate emails, not the files being covered up.

5. Memorable/Funny Moment: The Schlossberg Question

• A reporter asks about Jack Schlossberg’s run for Congress and his harsh words for the administration and his uncle.
  • Levitt dismisses the criticism, claiming “Secretary Kennedy is doing a phenomenal job bringing transparency and the gold standard of silent science back to our health care system.”
  • Quote [19:23]:
    Caroline Levitt: “I don't even think such ridiculous comments are worth responding to.”

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Ben Meiselas [01:14]: “No Caroline, you’re covering up the Epstein files… Trump and MAGA Mike and the MAGA Republicans are covering up the Epstein files.”
• Caroline Levitt [02:40]: “This administration… has turned over tens of thousands of documents to the American people… This is truly a manufactured hoax by the Democrat Party.”
• Caroline Levitt [04:13]: “It’s not something [Trump’s] talking about or even thinking about at this moment in time. I can assure you of that.”
• Caroline Levitt [04:55]: “President Trump… was always extremely professional and friendly to her.”
• Ben Meiselas [07:42]: “We’re watching liars… a group of despicable human beings in the White House covering up for a child sex trafficking ring…”
• Caroline Levitt [06:59]: “Doesn't that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns?”
• Caroline Levitt [09:33]: “President Trump received advanced imaging at Walter Reed… and all agreed that President Trump remains in exceptional physical health.”
• Caroline Levitt [12:12]: “It's something that the administration is discussing and seriously looking into.”
• Caroline Levitt [13:27]: “You shouldn't tell the President to which fund he has to rob because the Democrats are holding the country hostage…”
• Caroline Levitt [15:55]: “President Trump has already made great progress in cleaning up the economic disaster that was created by Joe Biden.”
• MAGAMike Johnson [17:25]: “They see a shiny object and they latch onto it... Democrats did not say one word about the Epstein files for the entire Biden presidency.”
• Caroline Levitt [19:23]: “I don't even think such ridiculous comments are worth responding to.”

Important Segments & Timestamps

• [01:14] — Epstein bombshell emails and Trump’s alleged cover-up.
• [02:40] — Press conference segment: Caroline Levitt’s “transparency” claims.
• [04:13, 04:55] — Maxwell pardon, Trump’s association with victims at Epstein’s house.
• [06:59] — Boebert pressured to withdraw from Epstein files petition.
• [08:40] — Prince Andrew Congress testimony question.
• [09:33] — Trump’s unexplained MRI.
• [12:12] — 50-year mortgage proposal.
• [13:27] — SNAP contingency fund and shutdown.
• [15:55] — Claims of Trump fixing the economy.
• [17:25] — MAGA Mike Johnson’s deflection.
• [19:23] — Schlossberg’s run and Levitt’s dismissive closing.

Tone, Language, and Host Style

• Language/Tone: Unapologetically direct, snarky, and moralistic in its critique of the Trump administration; heavy use of sarcasm and pointed analogies (e.g. North Korea's "pink dress lady").
• Dynamic: The sharp factual breakdown is threaded with sibling banter and clear exasperation at perceived corruption and lies.

Conclusion

The episode scrutinizes the White House's evasions and the Trump administration’s frantic attempts to quell an escalating scandal, exposing crucial intersections between politics, journalism, and moral accountability. The Meiselas brothers call out gaslighting, highlight governmental breakdowns, and illustrate why government transparency matters—not just for politics, but for basic decency.

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