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Donald Trump's White House is panicking. They just held a disastrous press conference. Caroline Levitt, Donald Trump's chief propagandist, just started lying about what Democrats said about Donald Trump, and the press called her out for it. And then she literally ran off of the stage while she was giving this press conference. Watch what took place here. Let's play it.
Caroline Levitt
And you will hear more about that later. Thank you. That's actually not what they said.
Podcast Host
And then Caroline Levitt, before that, was asked by the press, what did Donald Trump mean when he called one of the members of the press, a female reporter from Bloomberg, piggy? When he called her piggy, what did he mean by that? And Caroline Levitt was like, that's how he should treat you because he's being transparent. So he's calling you what you are. That's basically what she said, that she deserved to be called piggy. That's disgusting. This is what you're teaching our children, the next generation. How horrible. Here, play this clip tomorrow and I'll.
Caroline Levitt
Let the president speak for himself. Natalie. Thank you. Caroline, what did the president mean when.
Reporter
He called reporter piggy?
Caroline Levitt
Look, the president is very frank and honest with everyone in this room. You've all seen it yourself. You've all experienced it yourselves. And I think it's one of the many reasons that the American people reelected this president, because of his frankness. And he calls out fake news when he sees it. He gets frustrated with reporters when you lie about him, when you spread fake news about him and his administration. But he also is the most transparent president in history. And he gives all of you in this room, as you all know, unprecedented access. You are in the Oval Office almost every day asking the President questions. And so I think the president being frank and open and honest to your faces rather than hiding behind your backs is frankly, a lot more respectful than what you saw in the last administration, where you had a president who lied to your face and then didn't speak to you. For weeks and hid upstairs and didn't take your questions. So I think everyone in this room should appreciate the frankness and the openness that you get from President Trump on a near daily basis.
Podcast Host
Then she goes and attacks the President of South Africa, Ramaphosa. And she's like, he needs to stop running his mouth right now. Tell the President of South Africa to stop running his mouth. No, there's a G20 meeting taking place in South Africa which Donald Trump is not sending the United States because Trump has made up fake claims that there is a white genocide taking place in South Africa and that only white people deserve refugee status in the United States. These are despicable people. Here, play this clip for you.
Caroline Levitt
The New York Times is reporting that the, that the administration is now sending a US official to the G20. They are sending Mark Dillard. Can you just, can you confirm if that is true and then also explain the shift in. I'd be happy to explain because there is not a shift. The United States, United States is not participating in official talks at the G20 in South Africa. I saw the South African President running his mouth a little bit against the United States and the President of the United States earlier today. And that language is not appreciated by the President or his team. The ambassador or the representative of the embassy in South Africa is simply there to recognize that the United States will be the host of the G20. They are receiving that send off at the end of the event. They are not there to participate in official talks despite what the South African President is falsely claiming on Ukraine. There have been reports.
Podcast Host
And then Caroline Levitt says, you know the great thing about the government shutdown is we all learned that we don't need a Department of Education anymore. Here, play this clip.
Caroline Levitt
The Democrats reckless 43 day government shutdown did manage to do one valuable thing. It proved that America does not need a federal Department of Education. During the longest shutdown in history, the Department of Education furloughed 90% of its staff and America's education system was not impacted whatsoever. Schools stayed fully open across the country. Students attended class and received normal in person instruction. And our wonderful teachers received their paychecks uninterrupted. The Democrats government shutdown made it painfully obvious that American families do not need the Department of Education.
Podcast Host
How disgusting. You're saying that you use the shutdown to rip away people's health care, to take away people's snap benefits and the thing you learned is not how people were suffering but to take away the Department of Education to harm our kids. Doesn't it seem that everything this regime does, whether it's cover up a child sex trafficking ring with the Epstein files, ripping away people's health care, attacking Medicaid, going after the Department of Education, they want to attack and kill the kids. That's what they wanted. Is so disgusting. Then right here you have Caroline Levitt talk about the meeting taking place in the Oval Office tomorrow between Donald Trump and the New York City Mayor elect Mamdani. And she's like, we're having a little communist here. We're having the little communist over and again, just who behaves like this, like these are freaking evil, weird, demented human beings here. Play this clip.
Caroline Levitt
I think you'll all hear from him directly. I also think I will just add, it speaks volumes that tomorrow we have a communist coming to the White House because that's who the Democrat Party elected as the mayor of the largest city in the country. I think it's very telling, but I also think it speaks to the fact that President Trump is willing to meet with anyone and talk to anyone and to try to do what's right on behalf of the American people, whether they live in blue states or red states or blue cities in a city that's becoming much more left than I think this President ever anticipated in his many years of living in New York.
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Then a reporter asked Caroline Levitt, so you're accusing the Democrats of engaging in political violence, but Donald Trump's been making social media posts all day saying that Democrats who said that the military should not follow unlawful orders. And they were very clear they do not follow unlawful orders. Cuz you'll end up in a military tribunal. You're in the chain of command, don't follow him. And she go and Donald Trump saying that those Democrats should be killed, that George Washington would have hung them and that they should be hung for sedition. And Caroline Levitt then lies and the reporter says they were saying illegal orders. Like you're not even addressing the question. Then she runs off. But here, play this clip.
Caroline Levitt
Can I just follow up? The President and the Vice President for that matter, have accused the other side of encouraging political violence. That exactly what the President is doing when he says that members of Congress should be killed. Why aren't you talking about what these members of Congress are doing to encourage and incite violence? They are literally saying to 1.3 million active duty service members not to defy the chain of command, not to follow lawful orders, every single illegal order, which is. But they're suggesting, they're suggesting, Nancy, that the President has given illegal orders, which he has not. Every single order that is given to this United States military by this commander in chief and through this chain of command, through the Secretary of War is lawful. And the courts have proven that this administration has an unparalleled record at the Supreme Court because we are following the laws. We don't defy court orders. We do things by the books. And to suggest and encourage that active duty service members defy the chain of command is a very dangerous thing for sitting members of Congress to do. And they should be held accountable. And that's what the President wants to see, Phil.
Podcast Host
And a reporter then asks her, so you're saying that it was a good plan that Donald Trump proposed to Ukraine to allow Russia to essentially take over all of eastern Ukraine, for Ukraine to basically completely drop its military, to give into Putin's maximalist demands, to basically give Putin, Putin everything he wanted. You agree with that, Caroline Levitt? And she goes, did you read the plan? Did you read the plan? We'll put the plan out there, but we know what it is. It's everything that Putin said. Here, play this clip.
Caroline Levitt
Sure, go ahead.
Reporter
You said this is a good plan. So according to our sources, this proposal demands major concessions from Ukraine and doesn't demand much from Russia. So was Russia involved in drafting?
Caroline Levitt
Your understanding is wrong. Have you read the full plan? You haven't.
Reporter
So if you can give details, you've.
Caroline Levitt
Read reporting from one side of the war. And so I want you to understand that the administration has talked equally with both sides. You have seen President Trump engage directly with both President Putin and President Zelensky. Likewise, his national security team has as well. In fact, Special Envoy Wytkoff and Secretary Rubio met with some of the Ukrainians just in the past week to discuss this very plan. And so, just like you saw with respect to Israel in Gaza, we are hearing out both sides of this war to understand what can you commit to, to end the war. And that's ultimately how we are going to get to an agreeable solution. That's what the president has directed of his team. I know there's a lot of criticism out there and a lot of doubters, but I would just remind you of the historic success that this president and his team accomplished in the Middle East. We believe that is possible with Russia and Ukraine, and we're hoping and working very hard to achieve that.
Podcast Host
And so a reporter says, but are you saying no matter what the order is, anything that Donald Trump says is right and the military must follow any of his orders, even if they're war crimes, like killing 82 people off the coast of Venezuela, Colombia and in the Pacific. And she's like, yeah, if he makes it, that makes it right here. Play this clip, Brian.
Reporter
Thank you, Carolyn.
Podcast Host
Two questions.
Reporter
We were talking about four earlier in this briefing about the president's orders. You were going back and forth about what's what the ad said.
Podcast Host
One can say.
Reporter
My first question is the ad, the advertisement that the Senate Democrats were featured in. So the first question is, no matter what the order is, it could be to any administration official, military, otherwise, no matter if the experts might think it's illegal, does the president expect those cabinet members, administrative officials, to go ahead with those orders regardless of any, any outside.
Caroline Levitt
Thinking or the president expects his cabinet officials in the administration to follow the law and to demand accountability and hold people accountable for their dangerous rhetoric? And I would just add that if this were Republican members of Congress who were encouraging members of the military and members of our United States government to defy orders from the president and from the chain of command, this entire room would be up in arms. But instead, it is the other way around. And I think that's quite telling. I'm going to let you all go because the president, excuse me, I appreciate the, the encouragement this morning, but this afternoon. But President Trump is about to meet, is about to meet in minutes with Israeli hostages who this administration freed. And so I'm going to go up to that meeting, and you will hear more about that later. Thank you.
Podcast Host
All right, Caroline Levitt, that was so utterly disgusting, I don't even know what to say. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to 6 million subscribers. Horrific stuff out of the White House.
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Episode: "White House Panics in Disaster Presser as Admin Collapses"
Date: November 20, 2025
Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
This episode dissects a tumultuous White House press conference led by Caroline Levitt, Donald Trump's chief propagandist, covering the administration's controversial statements and policy defenses. The Meiselas brothers provide running commentary, fact-checks, and their signature banter throughout a series of heated confrontations between Levitt and the press. The episode spotlights escalating White House chaos, troubling rhetoric, and implications for American democracy.
Opening Drama: Caroline Levitt's press conference is described as “panicking” and marked by repeated factually incorrect statements, evasions, and ultimately, her hasty exit when pressed by reporters.
Incident: Trump reportedly called a female Bloomberg reporter "piggy." Levitt defended this as “frankness,” claiming it demonstrates Trump’s transparency and attacking the media for spreading “fake news.”
Notable Quote (Caroline Levitt):
“The president is very frank and honest with everyone in this room…That’s one of the many reasons the American people reelected this president, because of his frankness. And he calls out fake news…” [01:37]
Host Reaction:
“That’s disgusting. This is what you’re teaching our children, the next generation. How horrible.” — Brett Meiselas [01:15]
Levitt Criticism: Levitt verbally attacks South African President Ramaphosa for public criticisms, reiterates that the U.S. is boycotting the G20 in South Africa, and perpetuates Trump’s false claims of “white genocide” in that country.
Host Assessment:
The brothers denounce Levitt’s aggression and the persistent spread of dangerous conspiracy theories.
Levitt’s Claim: Levitt asserts that the government shutdown proved America “does not need a federal Department of Education,” as 90% of its staff were furloughed with “no impact.”
Notable Quote (Caroline Levitt):
“The Democrats’ reckless 43 day government shutdown…proved that America does not need a federal Department of Education.” [04:12]
Host Outrage:
“You’re saying the thing you learned was not how people were suffering but to take away the Department of Education to harm our kids…Is so disgusting.” — Ben Meiselas [04:52]
Levitt’s Language: Levitt refers to the incoming NYC mayor as “a communist” and ridicules the Democratic Party for supporting him.
Notable Quote (Caroline Levitt):
"It speaks volumes that tomorrow we have a communist coming to the White House because that’s who the Democrat Party elected as the mayor of the largest city…” [05:49]
Host Response:
The brothers call this “evil, weird, demented” behavior and question the administration’s professionalism and decency.
Incendiary Accusations:
Levitt accuses Democrats of inciting political violence by suggesting the military should not follow illegal orders.
Escalation:
Trump’s own inflammatory social media posts reportedly include wishing death or hanging for Democrats regarding their stance on military lawfulness, which Levitt dodges or shifts blame over.
Reporter Challenges:
Levitt is questioned about a peace plan that would force Ukraine to surrender territory and military power to Russia. She deflects, criticizing the reporter’s “biased” sources and invoking Trump’s “historic success” in Middle East negotiations.
Notable Quote (Reporter):
“According to our sources, this proposal demands major concessions from Ukraine and doesn’t demand much from Russia. So was Russia involved in drafting?” [10:17]
Notable Quote (Caroline Levitt):
“Your understanding is wrong. Have you read the full plan? You haven’t…We are hearing out both sides of this war to understand what can you commit to, to end the war…” [10:29]
Reporter Presses On:
A key exchange focuses on whether administration officials are expected to follow all of Trump’s orders—legal or not. Levitt evasively insists Trump only gives lawful orders and again blames Democrats for undermining the chain of command.
Notable Quote (Reporter):
“No matter what the order is…does the president expect those cabinet members…to go ahead with those orders regardless?” [11:57]
Notable Quote (Caroline Levitt):
“The president expects his cabinet officials…to follow the law and to demand accountability…If this were Republican members of Congress who were encouraging members of the military…to defy orders…the entire room would be up in arms…” [12:19]
| Time | Speaker | Quote | |-------|---------------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:30 | Ben Meiselas | "Donald Trump’s White House is panicking…She literally ran off of the stage…" | | 01:37 | Caroline Levitt | "He calls out fake news when he sees it…he’s being frank and honest…" | | 04:12 | Caroline Levitt | "It proved that America does not need a federal Department of Education…" | | 04:52 | Ben Meiselas | "You're saying…take away the Department of Education to harm our kids…" | | 05:49 | Caroline Levitt | "We have a communist coming to the White House…" | | 08:32 | Caroline Levitt | "To suggest and encourage…defy the chain of command…is very dangerous…" | | 10:29 | Caroline Levitt | "Your understanding is wrong. Have you read the full plan? You haven’t…" | | 12:19 | Caroline Levitt | "The president expects…to follow the law and to demand accountability…" | | 13:10 | Ben Meiselas | "Caroline Levitt, that was so utterly disgusting, I don’t even know what to say."|
The episode is unapologetic, urgent, and deeply critical of the Trump administration and its public messaging. The hosts use a mix of incredulity, outrage, and biting humor to address ongoing threats to democratic norms, with a clear focus on fact-checking and exposing dangerous rhetoric.
For listeners seeking a detailed breakdown, this episode is a dramatic, sometimes shocking window into current White House press tactics and the MeidasTouch brothers’ commitment to democracy, accountability, and truth.