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Ryan
I believe we should have a military presence at the very least on the southern border, if not across the border. You know, one of the things we learned post Trump presidency is that he had ordered a bombing of a couple of fentanyl labs, crystal meth labs in Mexico just across the border. And for whatever reason, the military didn't do it. I think that was a mistake.
Lindsey Graham
In 2023, Trump ally Republican Lindsey Graham said he couldn't think of a better use of our military than to bomb Mexico. Watch this.
Ryan
They're at war with you. You need to be at war with them. I can't think of a better use of our military than the blow up labs in Mexico killing young Americans. All right, we're back.
Lindsey Graham
We're back. And if you Remember back in 2022, there was a whole lot of reporting out there saying that Trump frequently asked about bombing Mexico while he was president. There was this piece about reporter Maggie Haberman's book that said, quote, trump weighed bombing drug labs in Mexico after he mistook advisor. New book shows. Then there was Trump's former secretary of defense, Mark Esper, who came out with a book called A Sacred Oath. And in that book, he also mentioned that Trump spoke about attacking Mexico. Per Esper, Trump wanted to bomb Mexico and then lie about it. Esper wrote, quote, on at least two occasions in the summer of 2020, once in the Oval Office and a second time in his private room just off the Oval, the president approached me about a sensitive issue. Slightly hunched over with his hands motioning in front of him like a quarterback, gesturing for a long snap, he asked me if the military could, quote, shoot missiles into Mexico to destroy the drug labs and take out the cartels. Standing close to me as he spoke, the president complained that the Mexican government isn't doing enough, getting irritated as he spoke and adding, quot they don't have control of their own country. If we could just knock them the drug labs out, he said, this would do the trick. What do you think? He asked. These conversations were quite troubling, to say the least. On one hand, I shared his concern about illicit drugs being trafficked into our country and respected his passion for wanting to stop this dangerous trade. But asking the US Military to shoot missiles into a sovereign country and worse yet, our friend and neighbor definitely was not the way to go about it. Working hard to conceal my shock at this idea, I said, Mr. President, we. We could do that. And as much as I want to stop these drugs too, shooting missiles into Mexico would be illegal. It would also be an act of war. I recommended that we look for more ways to help the Mexican government deal with the problem, such as increasing the training, intelligence and equipment we are providing them. We should also take another look at ideas that were tabled in the past. But to simply launch air or missile strikes into Mexico would not only violate international law, it would also destroy our relationship with Mexico and damage our global standing. I said Trump took these objections in, pursing his lips as he listened. He then suggested we could just shoot some Patriot missiles and take out the labs quietly, adding preposterously that, quote, no one would know it was us. He would simply deny that we launched them. I had seen Trump spin his own reality before, so I had no doubt he was confident in his ability to persuade people we had not launched the attacks. However, we did not live in a world where the United States could strike another country and no one would believe the missiles were not ours. I also couldn't Imagine the president would resist taking credit for the attack anyway. It was nonsense, plain and simple. If I hadn't seen the look on the president's face, I would have thought it was all a joke. He wanted to get this planned and done by Labor Day. Around then, he said, just a few months away. I was speechless. Trump thought this was the only way we could really stop this terrible trade. I took a long pause and then said again, quote, this would be an act of war, Mr. President, and there would be no way to keep it quiet. Esper then went on Fox and Fox host Brian Kilmeade of course tried to justify these comments by Trump. And Esper again reiterated that what Trump was suggesting was illegal and an act of war. Watch this.
Brian Kilmeade
These are almost like think tank questions when you guys are throwing out ideas. And do you think it's right to put that in a book? Well, he didn't propose sending a quarter million troops to the border. That was Stephen Miller. I never had that discussion with President Trump, but with regard to shooting missiles into Mexico, yes, I thought that was an act of war. It was illegal. It should not happen. And those things should be discussed. And we did have a meeting, a National Security Council meeting. I describe it in a book where we sat around the Situation Room and discussed how to address the issue with cartels.
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They write, within Donald Trump's government in waiting, there is a fresh debate over whether and how thoroughly the elect should follow through on his campaign promise to attack or even invade Mexico as part of the war he's pledged to wage against the powerful drug cartels. Quote, how much should we invade Mexico? Says a senior Trump transition member. That is the question. It is a question that would have seemed baddie for the GOP elite to consider before, even during Trump's first term. But in the four years since, many within the mainstream Republican centers of power have come around to support Trump's idea to bomb or attack Mexico. Trump's cabinet picks, including his choices for secretary of defense and secretary of state, have publicly supported the idea of potentially unleashing the US Military in Mexico. So has the man Trump has tapped to be his national security adviser. So has the man Trump selected, as his borders are to lead his immigration crackdowns. So have various Trump allies in Congress and in the media. Trump, who has routinely and falsely promoted himself as the candidate who would stop endless wars, now wants to lead a new conflict just south of our new nation's border. But at this moment, it is, in the words of one Trump adviser, quote, unclear how far he'll go on this one. The source adds, quote, if things don't change, the president still believes it's necessary to take some kind of military action against these killers. Another source close to Trump describes to Rolling Stone what they call a, quote, soft invasion of Mexico, in which American special forces, not a large theater deployment, would be sent covertly to assassinate cartel leaders. Indeed, this is a preliminary plan that Trump himself warmed to in private conversations this year. For this story, Rolling Stone spoke to six Republicans who have each talked to the twice impeached former and now future president about this topic. Some of these sources have briefed Trump on these policy ideas in recent weeks. These proposals, of varying degrees of violent severity, include drone strikes or airstrikes on cartel infrastructure or drug labs, sending in military trainers and advisers to Mexico, deploying kill teams on Mexican soil, waging cyber warfare against drone drug lords and their networks, and having American special forces conduct a series of raids and abductions of notorious cartel figures. In some of these private conversations, including during this presidential transition period, Trump has told confidants and some GOP lawmakers that he plans to tell the Mexican government that they need to stem the flow of fentanyl to America somehow in a span of several months, or else he will send in the US Military. As Rolling Stone has reported, since at least last year, Trump has solicited specific battle plans and different military options for attacking Mexico. Senator Marco Rubio, whom Trump chose to serve as Secretary of State, has endorsed the idea of sending US Troops to Mexico to combat drug cartels under the conditions that, quote, there is cooperation from the Mexican government and that such operations are done in coordination with the armed forces and the Mexican police force. Fox News commentator Pete Hegseth, whom Trump chose to lead the Pentagon said last year that it could be in the national interest to deploy the military against the Mexican drug cartels, which he had referred to as, quote, terrorist like organizations poisoning our population. Quote, if it takes military action, that's what it may take eventually, said Hegseth. Obviously, you're going to have to be smart about it, obviously, the precision strikes. But if you put the fear in the minds of drug lords, at least as a start, and they can't operate in the open with impunity, it changes the way they operate. You combine that with actual border security, now you're cooking with gas and you got a chance. Trump's pick for national security adviser, Representative Mike Waltz, last year co introduced legislation to create an authorization for use of military force to target Mexican drug cartels, asserting it would, quote, give the president sophisticated military, cyber intelligence and surveillance resources to disrupt cartel operations that are endangering Americans. Trump's incoming border czar, Tom Homan, recently pledged that Trump would use the military against drug cartels in Mexico. Quote, president Trump is committed to calling them a terrorist organization and using the full might of the United States special operations to take them out, he said. Senator Lindsey Graham, one of Trump's top allies on Capitol Hill, similarly introduced the legislation last year to, quote, designate Mexican cartels and other transnational criminal organizations as foreign terrorist organizations. He did so after promising that America would, quote, unleash the fury and might of the US against drug cartels in Mexico and that Congress would, quote, give the military the authority to go after these organizations wherever they exist. Meanwhile, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has responded to Trump's tariff threats, basically saying that not only are Trump's accusations against Mexico false, but that the drug trade is driven by the demand from America and that 70% of the illegal weapons seized from criminals in Mexico actually come from the United States. This is a video of her with subtitles responding to Trump. Check this out.
Claudia Sheinbaum
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Lindsey Graham
So can we agree folks that this is absolutely insane that we don't start wars with our closest allies and invade raid our neighbors? And can we finally put to rest this maga lie that Trump stands for peace Anyway, we are going to continue to call this new administration out every single day, but we can't do it without you. Remember to hit subscribe help us get to 4 million subscribers. Go ahead also and follow us on Blue Sky. Thank you so much for watching and I'll see you soon. Love this video. Make sure you stay up to date on the latest breaking news and all things Midas by signing up to the Midas Touch newsletter at midastouch. Com Newsletter.
Summary of "The MeidasTouch Podcast" Episode: "WTF?! Trump Threatens NEW WAR…with MEXICO?!"
Release Date: November 29, 2024
In this gripping episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast, hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas delve into alarming new developments surrounding former President Donald Trump’s alleged threats to wage war against Mexico. Combining sharp analysis with their trademark brotherly banter, the Meiselas brothers unpack the potential geopolitical ramifications of Trump’s proposed military actions aimed at curbing the fentanyl crisis.
The episode kicks off with Brett Marcellus setting the stage for the day’s explosive topic. Referencing recent reports from Rolling Stone, Brett discusses the startling claims that Trump is contemplating a full-scale invasion of Mexico to combat the flow of fentanyl into the United States.
Brett Marcellus [02:09]:
"We've heard a lot recently about Donald Trump starting a trade war with our allies, but that may be the least of our worries. We are now hearing reports that Trump is thinking of starting an actual war with Mexico."
Brett further contextualizes the discussion by recalling past instances where Trump and his allies hinted at aggressive actions against Mexico. He cites a 2023 statement by Republican James Comer and a 2022 admission by Trump himself, illustrating a consistent thread of hostility towards Mexico within Trump’s rhetoric.
Brett Marcellus [02:10]:
"This is not the first time Trump has suggested this. Here's a clip from 2023 of Republican James Comer saying that we should have our military on the border and troops in Mexico."
The podcast features a detailed recounting of conversations between Trump and his advisors, notably from Mark Esper, Trump's former Secretary of Defense. Esper’s revelations provide a firsthand account of Trump’s contemplation of military strikes against Mexican drug laboratories.
Mark Esper [03:55]:
"The president approached me about a sensitive issue... he asked me if the military could, shoot missiles into Mexico to destroy the drug labs and take out the cartels."
Esper emphasizes the gravity and illegality of such actions, highlighting Trump's persistence despite clear legal and ethical boundaries.
Mark Esper [07:45]:
"Shooting missiles into Mexico would be illegal. It would also be an act of war... This would not only violate international law but also destroy our relationship with Mexico."
The episode explores how Trump’s proposed actions have garnered support from various Republican leaders and his cabinet picks. Figures such as Senator Marco Rubio and Fox News commentator Pete Hegseth express openness to military intervention, provided there is Mexican government cooperation.
Pete Hegseth [08:07]:
"If it takes military action, that's what it may take eventually... If you put the fear in the minds of drug lords, at least as a start, they can't operate with impunity."
Representative Mike Waltz [08:34]:
"We introduced legislation to create an authorization for use of military force to target Mexican drug cartels... it would give the president sophisticated military resources to disrupt cartel operations."
Adding depth to the discussion, the podcast includes a response from Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum. She vehemently denies Trump’s accusations, attributing the drug trade’s persistence to American demand and emphasizing that much of the illegal weaponry in Mexico originates from the United States.
Claudia Sheinbaum [16:11]:
"Es un problema de consumo... el 70% de las armas ilegales incautadas en México provienen de los Estados Unidos."
(Translation: "It's a consumption problem... 70% of illegal weapons seized in Mexico come from the United States.")
The hosts analyze the potential fallout of such aggressive policies, discussing the legality, ethical considerations, and international repercussions of invading a neighboring sovereign nation. They also ponder the impact on US-Mexico relations and global standing.
Lindsey Graham [16:36]:
"Can we agree folks that this is absolutely insane that we don't start wars with our closest allies and invade raid our neighbors? And can we finally put to rest this MAGA lie that Trump stands for peace."
Graham’s vehement stance underscores the bipartisan concerns regarding Trump’s aggressive foreign policy proposals.
Wrapping up, Brett Marcellus urges listeners to subscribe and support the podcast, emphasizing the importance of staying informed on such critical national security issues.
Brett Marcellus [16:36]:
"We are going to continue to call this new administration out every single day, but we can't do it without you. Remember to hit subscribe and help us get to 4 million subscribers."
Trump’s Aggressive Stance: The episode reveals Trump’s serious consideration of military action against Mexico as a solution to the fentanyl crisis, moving beyond rhetoric to potential policy.
Support within GOP: Several Republican leaders and Trump's cabinet selections have expressed openness to military intervention, signaling potential shifts in party policy.
Legal and Ethical Concerns: Experts like Mark Esper highlight the illegality and peril of invading a sovereign nation, emphasizing the broader implications for international law and US-Mexico relations.
Mexican Rebuttal: Mexico’s leadership denies the proposed aggression, placing responsibility on American demand and pointing out the influx of illegal weapons from the US.
National and Global Impact: Such actions could severely damage diplomatic ties, destabilize the region, and tarnish the United States' global reputation.
Brett Marcellus [02:10]:
"This is not the first time Trump has suggested this... May apply from your fryer to the table."
Mark Esper [03:55]:
"Shooting missiles into Mexico would be illegal. It would also be an act of war."
Pete Hegseth [08:07]:
"If it takes military action, that's what it may take eventually."
Claudia Sheinbaum [16:11]:
"70% of the illegal weapons seized in Mexico come from the United States."
Lindsey Graham [16:36]:
"This is absolutely insane that we don't start wars with our closest allies and invade raid our neighbors."
Conclusion
This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast sheds light on a potentially explosive turn in US-Mexico relations, driven by former President Trump’s controversial proposals. Through in-depth discussions and insider accounts, the Meiselas brothers provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the stakes involved, the political currents supporting such actions, and the profound consequences that could ensue. As the situation unfolds, the podcast underscores the importance of vigilance and informed discourse in safeguarding democratic values and international peace.