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Brett Baier
Ukrainian President Zelensky just gave an interview with Fox where he addressed the Oval Office meeting where Donald Trump and J.D. vance laundered Russian propaganda to attack and yell at Zelinsky in the Oval Office in front of the world media where Zelinsky held his ground, pushed back against Trump and J.D. vance and strongly defended Ukraine as well as democracies across the country. Zelensky was asked by Brett Baer of Fox if he would apologize to Donald Trump on camera, to which Zelensky said no, what am I going to apologize for? I did not do something bad.
Volodymyr Zelensky
Watch this fire during all these years, 10 years.
Donald Trump
So I'm not hearing from you, Mr. President, a thought that you owe the President an apology?
Volodymyr Zelensky
No, I respect President and I respect American people and if I don't know if I think that we have to be very open and very honest and I'm not sure that we did something bad. I think maybe sometimes some things we have to discuss out of media, with all respect to democracy and to a free media, but there are things where we have to understand the position of Ukraine and Ukrainians and I think that is the most important thing.
Brett Baier
Yes folks, President Zelensky is standing on business. He talks about how he respects America, he respects the American people, but he's not going to capitulate to Vladimir Putin who's trying to wipe Ukraine off the face of the map. Here, Brett Baer asks Zelensky if he thinks his public spat in the Oval Office, that's how they're framing it on Fox, would serve Ukrainians well. And Zelensky said, let me just be very clear. Putin is a killer. I'm not going to say nice things about Putin. Play the clip.
Donald Trump
Do you think the public spat in the Oval Office in front of the media served Ukrainians well today?
Volodymyr Zelensky
I think this kind of spat is. I mean, this we have. I mean, this is not good for both sides anyway, and very open. But I can't, you know, to change our Ukrainian attitude to Russian. And I don't want their killers for us. You know, this is very, very clear that Americans are the best of our friends, Europeans are the best of our friends, and Putin with Russian, their enemies. And it doesn't mean that we don't want peace. We just want to recognize the reality, the reals.
Brett Baier
Now, while that was taking place, Donald Trump wanted to hog the media attention. And Donald Trump then told the media what would have made him happy is if Zelensky would have said nice things about Putin. Donald Trump says, why is he saying mean things about Putin? He needs to be nicer to Putin. This is what Trump just said here. Play the clip.
Donald Trump
He's got to say, I want to make peace. He doesn't have to stand there and say about Putin this, Putin that. All negative things. He's got to say, I want to make peace. I don't want to fight a war any longer. His people are dying. He doesn't have.
Brett Baier
Then Donald Trump attacks Zelensky while Zelinsky is basically doing this interview on Fox. And Donald Trump tries to, like, mock Zelinsky, and Trump's wearing the MAGA hat. This whole thing is just so humiliating for the United States. And Donald Trump's like, what? He thinks he's a big shot. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
He doesn't want to do that. That's fine. Do a better deal. I want it to end immediately. I want a ceasefire now. He said, oh, I don't want a ceasefire. Well, all of a sudden, he's a big shot because he has the US on his side. Either we're going to end it or let him fight it out. And if he fights it out, it's not going to be pretty because without it, without us, he doesn't win. It doesn't matter what I'm considering. I'm just telling you. You saw what I saw today. That was not a man that wanted to make peace. And I'm only interested if he wants to end the bloodshed. Thank you very much.
Brett Baier
Back to Zelensky's interview on Fox. Zelensky says he's thankful for Americans. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
President Trump said after your meeting that you disrespected him and the vice president and and all of America in the Oval Office. Do you think you did and do you think you owe an apology to President Trump?
Volodymyr Zelensky
Thank you so much. First of all, thank you for invitation for this dialogue and good evening to all your country, to all Americans. I'm very thankful to Americans for all your support. You did a lot. I'm thankful to President Trump and to Congress bipartisan support and I was always very thankful from all our people. You helped us a lot from the very beginning. During three years of full scale innovation, you helped us.
Brett Baier
How many more times do you want to hear him say that and before I've heard him say that he was thankful for Donald Trump even though he shouldn't have to even say that. I've heard him repeatedly make those comments. What did Donald Trump want him to do at the Oval Office? I think Donald Trump said it before praise Putin, which Zelinsky would not do. That's what Trump and J.D. vance were trying to bully him to do. That's what they thought the art of the deal was when it was really the art of the steel and the shakedown. Trying to extort Ukraine into some ridiculous rare earth mineral deal. When Donald Trump promised that he was going to bring peace to Ukraine in 24 hours. But what was Trump's plan the whole time to steal the rare earth minerals from Ukraine. What the hell is even going on right now? Here is President Zelinsky saying how he respects the soldiers and the people of Ukraine too much again to kiss Putin's ring in the Oval Office. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
Do you want to continue fighting? Do you want peace? And if he had the opportunity to go back to the White House right now, would you do it now?
Volodymyr Zelensky
First of all we want peace. That's why I'm in the United States. That's why I visited President Trump. And thanks for invitation again. The deal on minerals in the first step to security guarantees it's mean for the peace closer to peace. That's why I'm here and I have we have tough situation to understand. It is to be in Ukraine. You you saw it Brad. You was once. Thank you again. So I think that's very important to understand what's going on. But I, I respect my soldiers and our People, our civilians who work and support our warriors. I can't say just stop. Nobody will stop because everybody afraid that Putin will come back tomorrow. We want just and lasting peace. It's true. We want security guarantees. We raise this topic about NATO the quickest way. But not all the countries are on this side. I said, okay, if not NATO, nobody is pushing. If not NATO, let's build NATO in Ukraine. That's my position. Europeans already ought to have contingents on our territory, boots on the ground. United States thinks maybe to help, maybe USA backstop have to be just to guarantee that they are with Europeans. Look at Europe. It's strong, it became stronger. But they also want to have allies like the United States. That's what I said. I just want to understand what the piece. It's not my question, Brad. That is the question from all our people.
Donald Trump
You mentioned when I tried then Donald.
Brett Baier
Trump outside saying that Putin needs to. I mean, he goes, putin is right. And we were saying before or Zelensky needs to stop the fighting with Putin. Here, play this clip.
Donald Trump
Fighting, you're going to get the war done or let them go and see what happens. Let them fight it out. I want anybody that's going to make peace, if he's capable of making peace, which he may or may not be, but I want somebody that's going to make peace again. He doesn't have the cards. When we sign up, he's got all of the cards. That doesn't mean he can fight. He's got to stop the fighting, stop the death. He's losing hundreds of thousands of soldiers. It's time to stop the death.
Brett Baier
Then Donald Trump keeps talking about the cards. The cards. You can't embolden somebody that doesn't have the cards. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
Look, I don't trust or distrust anybody. I just want to get a deal done. And if the deal happens, good. But you can't embolden somebody that does not have the cards. And all of a sudden that person says, oh, well, now I can keep fighting. I can. We're not going to keep fighting. You're going to get the war done or let them go and see what happens. Let them fight it out.
Brett Baier
Then you had Ukrainian parliament member right here, Ruddick, and here she talks about the American people don't tell Ukraine who should be their leader or not. Play this clip.
Donald Trump
Kira, what is your reaction to hearing Republican Senator Lindsey Graham and even others within the administration saying that Zelensky would have to fundamentally change his point of view or potentially step down.
Kira Rudik
With all due Respect. In Ukraine, we elect our own presidents, and we are known to start revolutions if we think that they are not acting at our best interest. So it's not up to Russian president or American president or American officials to tell Ukrainian people who should be our president.
Brett Baier
And here the Ukrainian parliament member says, we hope Zelensky knows that he had the full support of the Ukrainian people in parliament. Play this clip.
Kira Rudik
But on a personal level, I just really hoped that when he was in the Oval Office and standing up to President Trump that he knew and felt that his country is behind him and his people are behind him.
Donald Trump
Kira, Rudy, thank you so much for sharing your perspective. We appreciate you joining us.
Kira Rudik
Thank you. And glory to Ukraine.
Brett Baier
Here she is again. Play this clip.
Kira Rudik
Thank you so much for having me. Well, indeed, today is a very unfortunate day, and the positions of President Zelenskyy and President Trump cannot be moved closer to each other because President Zelenskyy is representing the country that is at war. And it seems that President Trump still does not believe that the war is real and is killing people every single day. And President Zelensky is representing people who are fighting every single day. And he wants to end the war more than anyone else, as all of us, because it's us being killed every day and every night. What we didn't hear in all those back and forth again are what the actual security guarantees that Ukraine is getting if we are signing the deal. We did not hear that. We only heard that President Trump trusts Putin and that Putin will be afraid. There is one thing that we need to take as a fact. We did not see any single actual thing that would support this belief that Putin wants peace. The attacks on Kyiv and other cities of Ukraine did not stop one day, and the battles at the frontline continue. Russia has started the war. They can end the war if they pull their troops and simply stop killing us every single day and return children that they kidnapped and return our prisoners of war. That doesn't happen. And we did not hear, nor from President Trump nor from his team of how these security guarantees would be working. And this is the most important. I regret that situation got very emotional, but we did not capitulate in 2022 when we were absolutely alone and nobody was behind us. And we will not capitulate right now when we have been fighting for so long and we have so many European allies and so many people of America supporting us and standing behind us.
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Brett Baier
Now let me show you what Donald Trump was saying as well. How the meeting didn't work out. Well, let's play it.
Donald Trump
We had a meeting today, as you know, with President Zelensky and I would say it didn't work out exactly great from this standpoint. I think he very much overplayed his hand. We're looking for peace. We're not looking for somebody that's going to sign up a strong power and then not make peace because they feel emboldened. And that's what I saw happening. I'm looking for peace. We're not looking to go into a 10 year war and play games. We want peace.
Brett Baier
More from Zelinsky, right here. Let's play it.
Volodymyr Zelensky
Yeah.
Donald Trump
So the question today is can you Ukraine, win this war or hold off Russia? Without continued US Support, it will be difficult for us.
Volodymyr Zelensky
That's why I'm here. That's why we speak about the future negotiations. It will be difficult without your support. But we can't lose our values, our people. We can't lose our freedom. So a lot of people, Russians came to our territory, you know it. Russians came to our houses and everybody know, everybody saw it, video images, a lot of things. They killed so many people. Just to forget it, just to say that Putin is a great guy. No, without us. We don't want it. That's why, that's why we speak about, you know, everybody remembered how it was the first days of the war, how they came. Nobody wants in Ukraine. Yes, of course, nobody will forget it, but nobody wants to have again new wave of occupation. That's why when we say, no need to, what security guarantees can we have? I'm not pushing. We are not pressuring, we're just asking. We are just sharing very clear messages to our friends, to Americans. If you are, if you stay with us, thank you so much. But let's do, let's do the infrastructure of security guarantees. Let's just share with our people, just with our people, that America stay with us. That's great. We count on it. But just to share it and to say that's all.
Donald Trump
How does.
Brett Baier
And by the way, here was Donald Trump several months ago during the election, saying that he would bring peace in 24 hours and he would get a deal done. But it seems the only deal he's been focused on is, is stealing Ukrainian rare earth minerals or material and doing that deal. What the hell is even going on here? Play this clip.
Donald Trump
Could end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. Yes. How would you do that? I know Zelensky very well. I'll end that war between those two countries in 24 hours. It won't even take that long. I will get the war ended. I'll stop all of those lives from being wasted and lost, and there'll be no more bombing of Ukraine, there'll be no more bombing of Russia, and everybody will be happy. It can be negotiated. I think within 24 hours. It really has to be done from the office of the president and you have to get them both in a room. And there are things you can say to each one of them which I won't reveal now, which will guarantee that this war will end immediately. I can do it in 24 hours. I know both players and I can do. Do that in 24 hours. But you can only do it from the office of the president. You need that, you need that seat. You need what tailed in that seat. And I would have that done in 24 hours. It wouldn't even be tough. I know what to say to each of them, and there's no way they would reject it. This. I will end that war in one day. It'll take 24 hours. I would have a deal done in 24 hours. From the time we started and I would tell Zelinsky something and I would tell Putin something and I'd get him into a room and I tell them again and again, I would have a deal done very quickly.
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Hosts: Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas
Episode Title: Zelenskyy Punches Back on Fox After Trump Meltdown
Release Date: March 2, 2025
Description: In this episode, the Meiselas brothers delve into the heated exchange between Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and former U.S. President Donald Trump during an interview on Fox News. They analyze the implications of Zelenskyy's steadfast defense of Ukraine and democracy in the face of political pressure and propaganda attempts. The discussion highlights the broader themes of international support, media influence, and the resilience of democratic values.
The episode opens with the hosts introducing the recent high-profile interview on Fox News where Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy faced off against former President Donald Trump. The discussion sets the tone for an in-depth analysis of the confrontation, emphasizing its significance in the context of ongoing geopolitical tensions and the defense of democracy.
Brett Baier kicks off the discussion by summarizing Zelenskyy's interview with Fox News, where President Trump and Senator J.D. Vance attempted to undermine Zelenskyy's position by laundered Russian propaganda. Zelenskyy maintained his composure and defended Ukraine's sovereignty vehemently.
Brett Baier [01:00]: "Ukrainian President Zelensky just gave an interview with Fox where he addressed the Oval Office meeting where Donald Trump and J.D. Vance laundered Russian propaganda to attack and yell at Zelensky in the Oval Office in front of the world media where Zelensky held his ground, pushed back against Trump and J.D. Vance and strongly defended Ukraine as well as democracies across the country."
When asked by Brett Baier if he would apologize to Trump on camera, Zelenskyy firmly refused, emphasizing his respect for the American people but rejecting any unfounded accusations against himself.
Volodymyr Zelensky [01:43]: "No, what am I going to apologize for? I did not do something bad."
Volodymyr Zelensky [01:52]: "I respect President and I respect American people and if I don't know if I think that we have to be very open and very honest and I'm not sure that we did something bad."
The conversation shifts to Donald Trump's response to Zelenskyy's steadfastness. Trump criticized Zelenskyy for not being conciliatory towards Vladimir Putin, urging him to seek peace and refrain from negative remarks.
Donald Trump [04:14]: "He's got to say, I want to make peace. He doesn't have to stand there and say about Putin this, Putin that. All negative things. He's got to say, I want to make peace. I don't want to fight a war any longer. His people are dying."
Trump continued to undermine Zelenskyy by suggesting that Ukraine's position is untenable without U.S. support, implicitly questioning Zelenskyy's leadership and the viability of Ukraine's resistance against Russia.
Donald Trump [15:23]: "We had a meeting today, as you know, with President Zelensky and I would say it didn't work out exactly great from this standpoint. I think he very much overplayed his hand."
Ukrainian Parliament Member Kira Rudik joined the discussion, defending Zelenskyy's leadership and emphasizing Ukraine's sovereignty in electing its own president. She criticized external attempts to influence Ukraine's internal affairs.
Kira Rudik [10:51]: "With all due respect. In Ukraine, we elect our own presidents, and we are known to start revolutions if we think that they are not acting in our best interest. So it's not up to the Russian president or American president or American officials to tell Ukrainian people who should be our president."
Rudik further asserted that Zelenskyy has the unwavering support of the Ukrainian people and parliament, countering Trump's attempts to delegitimize Zelenskyy's authority.
Kira Rudik [11:20]: "I just really hoped that when he was in the Oval Office and standing up to President Trump that he knew and felt that his country is behind him and his people are behind him."
The MeidasTouch hosts analyze the strategic dynamics at play between Zelenskyy and Trump. They discuss how Trump's demands for conciliatory rhetoric towards Putin are reflective of broader attempts to shape the narrative around the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
The hosts highlight Zelenskyy's role in defending democratic values against what they describe as Trump's propagation of Russian narratives. This confrontation symbolizes the larger battle between democratic resilience and authoritarian propaganda.
The episode delves into the power of media in influencing public perception. The hosts argue that Trump's platform allows him to sway opinions, potentially undermining international support for Ukraine. They praise Zelenskyy's unwavering stance as a beacon of leadership in tumultuous times.
Wrapping up the discussion, the Meiselas brothers reaffirm their support for Ukraine and democratic institutions. They emphasize the importance of steadfast leadership and international solidarity in the face of aggression and misinformation.
The hosts encourage listeners to stay informed and support democratic movements worldwide. They underline the critical role of media in fostering an informed populace that can resist manipulative narratives.
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This episode of The MeidasTouch Podcast provides a compelling examination of the recent clash between Ukrainian President Zelenskyy and former U.S. President Donald Trump. Through thorough analysis and insightful commentary, the Meiselas brothers shed light on the critical issues of leadership, media influence, and the enduring struggle to uphold democratic values in a complex geopolitical landscape.
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