Podcast Summary: The Memory Palace - Episode 227: A Brief Note Written After Learning the National Parks Service Removed the word Transgender from Stonewall's Webpage
Release Date: March 11, 2025
Host: Nate DiMeo
Podcast: The Memory Palace
Introduction
In Episode 227 of The Memory Palace, host Nate DiMeo addresses a poignant and timely issue: the National Park Service's decision to remove the term "transgender" from the official webpage of the Stonewall National Monument in New York. Released on March 11, 2025, this episode delves into the implications of this change, reflecting on the intersection of language, history, and identity.
Contextualizing the Removal
Nate begins by setting the scene of his discovery on February 12, 2025, when he learned that the National Park Service had excised the word "transgender" from Stonewall's webpage. He emphasizes the importance of the timestamp in preserving the context and original meaning of his words:
"A brief note after learning that the National Park Service has removed references to transgender people from the official webpage of the Stonewall National Monument in New York, I am reading this aloud on 10 March 2025 the time stamp is important..."
(00:02)
The Power of Language
DiMeo explores the fluidity of language and its role in shaping societal understanding and historical narratives. He underscores how language evolves and the significance of retaining inclusive terminology to honor the diverse identities present during pivotal historical moments.
"Language changes the words we use, how those words get used, by whom and to what ends... I want you to know that this language, the words that the Trump administration has targeted here, is part of a broader project..."
(02:45)
Transgender Presence at Stonewall
A central theme of the episode is the acknowledgment of transgender individuals' contributions to the Stonewall riots. DiMeo highlights that trans women were integral to the events of 1969, despite not all identifying with that term at the time.
"There were transgender women at Stonewall. They didn't call themselves that when they were there... But there were trans women at Stonewall. They were there most nights before the riots..."
(08:30)
He references oral histories and memoirs that recount the presence and experiences of transgender patrons, emphasizing the necessity of inclusive language to fully capture the diversity of those involved.
Historical Complexity and Memory
DiMeo delves into the complexities of historical memory, particularly concerning chaotic and violent events like the Stonewall riots. He discusses the challenges historians face in piecing together accurate accounts amidst conflicting testimonies and the passage of time.
"Language changes. The words they use to describe themselves and describe their lives at that time is in flux... These are the first people to take hormones, to undertake experimental procedures..."
(15:10)
He also touches upon the influence of organized crime on the operations of the Stonewall Inn, providing a backdrop to the social dynamics of the time.
Political Implications
The episode critiques the political motivations behind altering historical narratives. DiMeo suggests that the removal of the term "transgender" is part of a broader effort to reshape history in a way that may erase the contributions of marginalized groups.
"A new administration is trying to remove them from the story by removing a word. But they were there. There were people there."
(25:50)
He warns of the dangers in sanitizing historical accounts, stressing the importance of preserving the full spectrum of identities involved in such significant events.
Conclusions
Nate DiMeo concludes by reaffirming the importance of accurate and inclusive historical records. He calls on listeners to recognize the evolving nature of language and its critical role in honoring all individuals who have shaped pivotal moments in history.
"For decades, it was a story told by and about white gay men. But by the time the Obama administration created the Stonewall national monument in 2016, trans women were at the center of the story... They were there. There are people here and there are stones."
(40:20)
Final Remarks
DiMeo wraps up the episode by acknowledging the ongoing efforts to research and preserve the true history of Stonewall, despite political challenges. He emphasizes the collective responsibility to maintain an inclusive and accurate historical narrative.
"This episode of the Memory palace was written and produced by me, Nate DiMeo in March of 2025... If you ever want to support this show and support independent media, you can make a donation at Radiotopia fm."
(45:00)
Notable Quotes
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Nate DiMeo: "Language changes the words we use, how those words get used, by whom and to what ends..." (02:45)
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Nate DiMeo: "There were transgender women at Stonewall. They didn't call themselves that when they were there..." (08:30)
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Nate DiMeo: "A new administration is trying to remove them from the story by removing a word. But they were there. There were people there." (25:50)
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Nate DiMeo: "For decades, it was a story told by and about white gay men. But by the time the Obama administration created the Stonewall national monument in 2016, trans women were at the center of the story..." (40:20)
Conclusion
Episode 227 of The Memory Palace serves as a thoughtful reflection on the interplay between language, history, and identity. Nate DiMeo effectively illustrates the importance of inclusive terminology in honoring the diverse individuals who played crucial roles in historical events like the Stonewall riots. By highlighting the recent omission of "transgender" from the Stonewall National Monument webpage, DiMeo calls for vigilance in preserving an accurate and comprehensive historical record.
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