Tom Homan (8:02)

We'll give you a due process. You can have your day in court. When your order removed, you're going to leave, and we're going to make you leave.

Michael Knowles (8:08)

Are you going to deport doctors? They're saying that there's going to be migrant doctors in the middle of surgery and ICE is just going to be dragging them out in their scrubs. Have you heard of that happening?

Tom Homan (8:22)

I have never heard of that happening. I heard the other day that we're going to deport U.S. citizens, too. I heard that one. But look, public safety threats, national security threats, fugitives, those who had due process at great taxpayer expense were ordered removed and went to hiding fugitives. And look, if you're in the country legally, you're not off the table. It's not okay to cross this border. It's a crime. Every illegal alien that crossed that border committed a crime. And it's not okay if you be in this country illegally. I don't go 200 miles an hour to come to this interview tonight. Kind of want to get a ticket. I don't lie on my taxes because I don't want to go get tax evasion. Well, it's not okay to be in this country illegally. So if you're in the country illegally, you got a problem.

Michael Knowles (9:01)

If you're in the country illegally, you got a problem. This is the point. So what I love Jesse's opening here, he says what we're hearing is that American citizens are going to be deported, which is obviously ridiculous. What we're hearing is that illegal alien medical doctors performing surgery. I'm not sure how many of those there are exactly, but they're going to be pulled out mid surgery. The patient's going to bleed out on the table because ICE is going to do raids of operating rooms. Yeah. No. So Tom Holman opens up. He says, now, first we're looking at the guys with face tattoos. Actually, first we're looking at the obvious criminals who have been convicted of crimes in addition to the crime of coming into this country illegally. But then he makes a really important point. He doesn't give up the negotiation or the art of the deal here. He says, hold on, we're going to start with the face. Tattooed criminals we're going to start with the Ms. 13 affiliates, the Trende Aragua affiliates, the people who are murdering Americans, raping Americans, committing violent acts against Americans. We're going to start there. But that does not imply that the illegal alien who does not regularly commit violent crimes can just stay here. That's not how it works. And he explains, it's a matter of incentives. If you tell people who've broken a basic law of America that they can just stay here, you're going to get more of that. And so the mandate from the American people across the aisle, including many Democrats, was we want to stop this illegal immigration. The only way you do that is if you can credibly threaten every illegal alien here and say, if you are in this country illegally, you could be deported. Obviously, we have to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves. We don't want the Democrats to do what we know they're planning to do, which is once the deportations start to put up cute little children, little old grannies who are being thrown into boxcars or something. That's what the Democrats want to say this is about. They want to pretend that there's no such thing as MS.13. They want to pretend that the cartels don't control, control the border. They want to pretend that the open border hasn't led to the biggest mass poisoning in American history. They want to pretend all these sorts of. They want to pretend people like Lake and Riley don't exist. I guess Lake and Riley doesn't exactly exist anymore because she was murdered by an illegal alien. But they want to pretend that all these crimes are not real. So the Trump administration has to do two things, and Homan is doing this beautifully. First, focus on all the obvious cases. Force the media's hand. Show the media to be liars, actually take out the most imminent threats, but also maintain the law in principle. Carry out justice, which is what these guys have been given a mandate to do. Make it clear it's not just the face tattooed guys. It's anyone who has broken our most basic laws. They need to at least understand that they are liable to be deported. There's so much more to say. First, though, go to Hillsdale. Edu Knowles. Time is our most precious commodity. I've heard this from so many of our listeners who have asked for advice on how they can spend their time wisely and improve themselves and the people around them. I'm really excited that Hillsdale is offering more than 40 free online courses in the most important and enduring subjects. 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Edu Knowles Speaking of Trump nominees, President Trump has selected his pick for Education Secretary. That would be Linda McMahon. Linda McMahon, longtime Republican donor. She ran for Senate in the state of Connecticut, wife of the founder of the wwe. It is my great honor, President Trump writes, to announce that Linda McMahon, former administrator of the Small Business Administration, will be the United states education secretary. McMahon has recently served as chairman of the board of the America First Policy Institute, an important Trump associated think tank. And he says as a strong supporter of school choice and parental rights, there's no one better to expel the woke agenda in our education system and put our children first than Linda McMahon. Okay, that's great. That's cool. Like Linda McMahon, she's terrific. I sure hope she has a short tenure at the Department of Education though, because she's a terrific pick. I'm all for it, but I was told that the Department of Education is going away, so I hope that she's in there. In the meantime, before Elon and Vivek turn their red tape machine gun on that aspect of the federal bureaucracy. I hope she's able to restore some sanity, get rid of all the LGBT LMNOP mandates, try to fix up education in as much as she can. But then that department's gotta go away. It was founded in 1979 by Jimmy Carter. The purpose of it was to make American students better educated and smarter. It has manifestly failed at that. We have dropped down international rankings in education consistently and dramatically since that education department was founded. So we gotta get rid of it. When something doesn't serve its purpose, you got to radically reform or just get rid of that system. If I had a leftist tears tumbler here and I poured delicious leftist tears in it, but the leftist tears started pouring out the bottom. There's a big leak. And let's say a better analogy. There were lots of leaks all over the tumbler. I could barely keep a half inch of liquid in there at any given time. The tumbler just doesn't work. What would I do? Maybe you try to patch up the tumbler, but if it's really broken beyond repair, you just throw it out. It's good for nothing. That's the Department of Education. So, of course we need someone in there. Power goes to the people who will wield it. So if there is such an administration, Trump needs to put a pick in there. But the Trump administration has to do multiple things at the same time, and it's tricky. That's just how corrupt our system is. Now, Trump has his work cut out for him. There's no question about it. But we should not be seduced by the notion that we can just wield the Department of Education for our own ends. So that's true of certain government agencies of this one. I just don't think that's how it works. I think so long as there is a federal Department of Education, it will ultimately redound to the benefit of the left. And so we just got to get rid of it. And I can't wait till Elon and Vivek get there. Okay. Speaking of education, the Texas Board of Education is very close to some wonderful action that is to approving the Bible in schools, sort of. I'm a strong proponent of the Bible in schools. I'm a strong proponent of the Bible of schools for a couple reasons. One, because I believe that the Bible is the inerrant, inspired word of God. But even put that aside, let's say you don't believe that you're an atheist or an agnostic or Zoroastrian, whatever. The other reason, even if you're not religious, that you should support the Bible in schools is that the Bible is the most important book ever written. It is a book without which we can't understand anything else about our civilization. It is the book that has formed everything else. You can't read William Faulkner without understanding the Bible. You can't read the modern scientists. You can't read Isaac Newton or Galileo without understanding the Bible. I mean, you can read them and you can try to glean some insights from them, but it won't make sense. The Bible forms the basis of our entire education, or what could be our education. If you take that out, if you take out the key piece, nothing really seems to make sense. So that's why we need the Bible in schools. Also. If you want to pursue truth, but you insist that we take God at the source and summit and the actual identity of all truth out, then you're not going to have a very good run of things. But just even at the most basic normie level, you can't understand the Western canon without the Bible. What Texas is doing, though, is not even insisting on putting the Bible in schools. As you're going to hear from the left. A majority of the Texas board of Education's 15 members, they signaled their support for something called Bluebonnet Learning, which is an elementary school curriculum that just includes certain Christian teachings and biblical references. That's it. That's according to the Texas Tribune. The majority of the school board signaled their support for an elementary school curriculum that includes references to the Bible. That's it. I don't know how much more modest a proposal you could get. So if you say I oppose murder and I think you should love your neighbor, love God above all things and your neighbor as yourself. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If you say that you are referencing the Bible, we gotta get that out of schools, too. Hey, you probably shouldn't steal. That's a reference to the Bible. That's a reference to the Ten Commandments. Hey, it's probably a good idea not to covet your neighbor's ox. That actually usually is not taught in elementary schools, but it's a good rule too. You can't. Basic aspects of even the natural law. Can you not teach them because they do in fact reference the Bible. Certainly in our culture. I don't know. Pretty modest. Here's what an opponent would say. This is Mary Lowe, co founder of Families Engaged for an Effective Education. Some super lib group. I am a Christian, she says, and I do believe that religion is part of our culture. But our nation does not have a religion. We're unique in that. Put a pause there. You're telling me that the nation that has in God we trust on all of our money, the nation for which in our national anthem we say conquer we must, when our cause it is just and this be our motto and God is our trust. That nation doesn't have a religion. A nation for which it was refounded by Abraham Lincoln doing his own riffs on the King James Bible that are that that nation so devoted, so consecrated, language straight out of the Bible that that's not a religious nation. Our nation where our first president celebrated Thanksgiving giving thanks to God. Our nation that was Founded by pilgrims on the Mayflower and then later by Puritans who said that we would be a model of Christian charity in a shining city on a hill. We don't have a religion. You know why she's saying that? Because in the First Amendment it says we will not establish a church at the national level. Do you know why we have that provision of the Constitution? Because there were already established churches at the state level that persisted for decades after ratification. So she's just wrong about this. She says it's not. Even though she says I hate religion. I can't argue with her about hating religion exactly. If that's her subjective preference. De gustibus non dispetandum est. But that's not what she's saying. She's saying, I'm a Christian. I think religion is part of our culture. But we don't have a religion, and that's just not true. We're a Christian country. Nobody really before the middle of the 20th century would have said with a straight face that we don't have a religion. Then she goes on, digression aside, she says, I do not think that our school districts should imply or try to overtly impress to young, impressionable children that the state does have a religion. Okay, so then certainly the school shouldn't tell children that a boy can really be a girl because a person's true identity has nothing to do with their body. Right? The school shouldn't. That's obviously a religious, occultish concept. School shouldn't do that. Right. School shouldn't say it's okay for two men to get together and call it marriage. That would be a moral teaching, an anthropological teaching, even all the way down to religion. School couldn't do that. Right. A school shouldn't tell children that it's wrong to commit murder or wrong to steal. A school shouldn't punish a student for stealing or for smacking another student or for killing another student, because that would imply a moral teaching. And we're not making seminaries here. Elementary school is not supposed to be catechism. We don't want to have a state religion, do we? We can't have laws that have any reference to the moral law, can we? Well, no, that would imply a state religion. I mean, in a way, it does imply religion, but that's what all states have to do, because that's what law is. My only problem with this Texas proposal, it's not even a law yet. It's not even a vote. It's just. And insinuation of support for this particular curriculum that sort of references the Bible. My only problem with it is it's far too modest. Far too modest. You gotta teach the Bible in schools. If a kid graduates from school, if a kid graduates from 12th grade, if a kid graduates from 8th grade having not read the entire Bible or thereabouts, the kid cannot claim to be educated. I'm not saying you gotta profess your faith in Christianity to graduate high school. No one's suggesting that. But you don't know it. You're not familiar with the Bible. You don't know who Noah is. You don't know who Moses is. You cannot possibly call yourself an educated person at even a basic level if you are not thoroughly familiar with the Bible, no matter what religion you say you have. There's so much more to say. First though, go to PureTalk.com knowles have you ever thought about what charities and causes, the brands that you give your hard earned money to support? You give your money to all sorts of companies and then what do they give some of that money to charities, some of which are really awful and contradict your values? Well, Pure Talk is a little different. 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Switch to a qualifying plan. Get one year free of DailyWire Plus Insider. Speaking of the Utes, we have a Dailywire exclusive story here which is that there's a children's hospital in Philadelphia that leads the nation in so called sex change procedures. This hospital, I can't believe it's the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. I guess Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, or is it Pennsylvania? Well, it's one of the two. It doesn't matter because the letter would be the same. The hospital is known as chop, the hospital that is devoted exclusively to the care of children that has programs developed to help children to investigate their gender identity. According to the advocacy group do no Harm leading the nation in offering life altering sex related interventions for minors. That hospital is called chop. It's really dark. It's really gruesome. I don't mean to make light of the fact that there are evil people trying to castrate children and successfully castrating children in America, but that's pretty wild, right, Chop? It reminds me of that Alexander Pope quote, all nature is but art unknown to thee, all chance direction which thou canst not see. That is a pretty heavy handed little wink from Providence. It's called chop, guys. Obviously terribly evil needs to be done away with. This stuff needs to be banned. Probably this place needs to be shut down if they are castrating little kids. And Republicans need to lead the charge on this. I made this point yesterday. We talked to Nancy Mace, a member of Congress who has a spine. In our age of people missing anatomical features, this woman has a spine. She's leading the charge to say, hey, no on Capitol Hill. We're not going to force women to use the bathroom with men. We're not going to allow the fantasies of disturbed men to over overwhelm the legitimate rights of women. I said, as a matter of justice, the Republicans need to take up this charge. But also as a matter of politics, this is an easy, this is a winner. This is the issue that flipped Virginia Red for Glenn Youngkin. This is the issue that helped Ron DeSantis win a massive reelection in Florida. This is one of the big issues that propelled Trump, that got a lot of Democrats center left people to come over, say, you know, look, I'm a lifelong Democrat, but I just think pretending that little boys are little girls, castrating little kids, that's too much for me. I know multiple people who say, look, I'm still a liberal, I'm a Democrat, but this is too much. And I say, look, I'm not a liberal, I'm not a leftist, I'm not a Democrat, but I'm happy to have your votes. You're right, your party's going so insane, you should come on over this sort of thing. Every Republican in the country should be jumping on shutting this down as a matter of justice. Sure. But even if the Republicans can't muster courage or moral clarity, this is shooting fish In a barrel. Guys, this is going to be your easiest, most popular political move to date. If I can't convince you to do it as a matter of right and wrong, at the very least, do it as a matter of political expediency. You will be applauded for it, you will win more votes, and coincidentally, you'll be doing the right thing. Speaking of easy pickings for Republicans, there's a Democrat member of Congress with whom I was previously unfamiliar. This woman, Jasmine Crockett, who just went on a viral invective against white men.

Jasmine Crockett (27:33)

It's because you can then misuse words like oppression. There has been no oppression for the white man in this country. You tell me which white men were dragged out of their homes. You tell me which one of them got dragged all the way across an ocean and told that you are going to go and work. We are going to steal your wives, we are going to rape your wives. That didn't happen. That is oppression. We didn't ask to be here. We not the same migrants that you all constantly come up against. We didn't run away from home. We were stolen. So, yeah, we are going to sit here and be offended when you want to sit here and act like. And don't let it escape you that it is white men on this side of the aisle telling us people of color on this side of the aisle that y'all are the ones being oppressed, that y'all are the ones that are being harmed.

Michael Knowles (28:32)

This woman, don't you see, is being oppressed. This woman seating in Congress and she's sitting in her seat in the US Congress that she holds. She is very oppressed. She's sitting there in what appear to be Chanel earrings because of her oppression. I don't know. Do they? I know Chanel clothing and accessories are expensive, but can you pay for them in oppression? Maybe that's what this woman did. This woman's sitting here in her perfectly nice looking clothing with her ridiculously long nails that she apparently, she can afford manicures. Apparently she has the luxury and the leisure time for all sorts of cosmetic prunings and primpings. This woman very, very oppressed and wants to tell those white men, whoever want to criticize or complain about anything, that they need to shut up. We didn't ask to come here, lady. I certainly did not ask for you to be in Congress. You did ask to be in Congress. So you asked to be there. At least she sounds like an angsty teenager, this sort of angsty teenager who says, I didn't ask to be born. I didn't ask to be here. Whining like an uneducated person, an immature person who does not have control over his or her own passions and emotions. So is lashing out against the white man who apparently white men are never victims of crimes. Apparently white men's wives are never raped. Apparently white men are never forced to do things they don't want to do. Those are her examples, apparently. I didn't know. I didn't know that. I'm pretty sure that isn't true. But that's what she claims. She is the true oppressed person. And those evil, dastardly white men need to shut their mouths and get out of politics. All right, lady, that's an interesting bet. We're going to see how this plays out for you. Elissa Slotkin, Democrat, member of Congress, has just gone viral for saying that part of the reason we lost this last, we being the Democrats, in her case, lost this last election, is because we played identity politics. We Democrats need to stop playing identity politics. And then this woman goes viral for inveighing against white men and playing the Oppression Olympics. Okay, okay. Let's see who's right. Is Alyssa Slotkin right? In this case, I think probably she is. She has won her race. Or is this. What's her name? Jasmine Crockett. Democrats, I want you to run every ad about three things. About how much you love killing babies. They think that's their winning issue. Okay. How much you love killing babies. Run that ad. Be totally honest about it. How much you love castrating children. That's a good one. Run that ad you believe it's so important to you. And how much you hate white men. And recently, after the election where 1 in 5 black guys and half of Hispanics just about voted for Trump, how racist the Hispanics are and how sexist the black guys are. That was the other Democrat conclusion from the election. Run those ads, too. Run those. You hate the white guys and now you hate the 1 in 5 black men, and now you hate the Hispanics, and now you want to castrate the kids and the ones that you don't kill. Okay, fine. Run those ads. Let's see how it works. I love it. Jasmine Crockett, I want her to be the leader of the dnc. Make that woman chairman of the dnc. Make her the minority leader in the House of Representatives for the demo. I love it. Sounds good to me. Some liberals are recognizing this stuff isn't really working. Some liberals are recognizing that it wasn't white Supremacy that took down Kamala. It wasn't the patriarchy that took down Kamala. Democrats like Katie Couric talking to Jen Psaki, first press secretary for Joe Biden, admit, you know, maybe the problem was us. I also felt that. And again, I think she really did well in so many areas. And I. But I was frustrated by her inability to really succinctly answer questions at times, Jen, and to kind of like if she was asked about changing the Supreme Court at that CNN town hall, she had an opportunity to talk about ethics and what Alito and Clarence Thomas were doing. And she answered in one sentence and then went on to something that had nothing to do with the question. People notice that and it's like, answer the God question, please. I mean, there you have it. Answer the darn question, says Katie Couric. But hold on. I was told the whole time that Kamala was a really good candidate. Kamala was really smart and educated and honest and articulate and direct, and she was great. She was. I was told that. And previously, before Kamala was the nominee, I was told that Joe Biden was not senile. He was totally in command of his faculties. Morning Joe told me this was the best Joe Biden sharpest that we've ever seen him. What Katie Couric is admitting here and Jen Psaki, nodding along, I think is implicitly acknowledging is they lied about Kamala. They lied. The same people who three weeks ago told us Kamala's great. She is doing interviews. She is talking to the press. She is answering questions. She is transparent. They're admitting, yeah, we lied about that to you. We were just as frustrated as you were. Yeah, we knew she didn't answer the question. She didn't have answers. It was pathetic. She was bad at that. So in reckoning with the historic failure of the Kamala Harris candidacy, they have to admit they lied to you. And this is just like Kamala lying about Joe Biden's incompetence. This is a reckoning for the media. It's no coincidence that Katie Couric is here. Katie Couric, a major TV journalist of the last three decades and saying, yeah, I mean, she's obviously a Democrat activist. She has engaged in some dubious journalistic practices, let's say, over the years, while selective editing and things that are pretty sus though now pretty typical. Even of the news networks, NBC, cbs, CBS did it while they were chopping up and re editing the Kamala Harris 60 Minutes interview to make her look better. And they're admitting, you know, that didn't we tried to cover for her, but maybe we shouldn't have. Maybe we should have just forced her to answer that. Maybe we should have done our jobs and maybe she would have done better or maybe at least though then even if she wouldn't have done any better, the media would still have some credibility instead of totally collapsing, CNN's ratings collapsing, MSNBC possibly up on the chopping block, the New York Times, Washington Post admitting this was the podcast election. The podcasters have much more influence. We'll try to kick them off YouTube, but if that doesn't work, they're gonna eat our lunch. They knew. They knew. The media are being forced to reckon with their own lies, including in real time. Is the new line that you're hearing is that Trump's nominees are totally unqualified. Trump's nominees for his cabinet are not only unqualified, but some of them are even criminals. And they're especially going after Matt Gaetz in this regard. And now the media, because the political order has shifted, they're having to own up to the lies that they're telling in real time. We just saw this on the View. We'll get to it in one second. First, though, today we are celebrating a monumental achievement by one of the most prominent and influential voices of our time. Dr. Jordan B. Peterson has officially reached his 500th episode of his show. 500 episodes of Brilliant, thought provoking, funny, accented, life changing conversations. And it's all available right now on Daily Wire, including his Mastering Life series. It is your personal roadmap to building a life of purpose, strength and meaning. It's coming December 1st. Dr. Peterson is releasing his highly anticipated 10 part biblical series, Gospels, exclusively on Dailywire. Head over to Dailywire right now. Celebrate Dr. Jordan Peterson's 500th episode with us today. My favorite comment yesterday is from Meatlog. What a name. Who says the best word in a parent's lexicon for both the parent and the child is the word no. The same applies to issues such as this. I don't even know what specific issue that's referencing, but I've said that for years. I've said, in fact, this was part of the thesis of my book Speechless, which is that conservatives need to learn. Thank you. A beautiful word. No parent. Look, sometimes the parent doesn't want to say no, you want to just keep your kid happy, but you have to be able to say no, no, Democrats, no, you don't get to flood the country with foreigners. No, no Democrats, you don't get to castrate the kids no. And we don't need to have a long, complex, nuanced discussion. We don't have to meet in the middle. Look, you want to castrate the kids. I don't want to castrate the kids. We'll just remove some of their genitals. No, you don't need to compromise on that. You want to flood the country with foreigners in contravention of our law. We want to enforce our law. And so, look, we'll only bring in 5 million illegals. No. You could just say no. Simple as. Ronald Reagan had a good line on this. He said illegal immigration is illegal. It's that simple. It's wrong to castrate kids. You don't need to always have a big compromise. Nuanced, conciliatory. I'm as happy to compromise on issues that are open to that. Okay, we'll argue over taxes and maybe we'll meet in the middle somewhere. On stuff like this, though. Just say no. Sometimes you gotta tell the petulant little child no. It's better for the household and it is better for the child. The liberals, especially in the media, are having to come to grips with their own perfidy, with their own insidiousness. This we saw in the View yesterday when after the View has been ranting and raving about Matt Gaetz, President Trump's pick for Attorney general, the lawyers made them issue this disclaimer on screen. What about Gates, Sonny, you have a legal note? I do have a legal note. Thank you, Whoopi. Matt Gaetz has long denied all allegations, calling the claims, quote, invented and saying in a statement to ABC News that this false smear following a three year criminal investigation should be viewed with great skepticism. That DOJ investigation was closed with no charges being brought.

Jasmine Crockett (38:37)

We'll be right back.

Michael Knowles (38:40)

We'll be right back. You see Sunny Hostin either sincerely or performatively showing her rage that she has to read this legal disclaimer. Why does she have to read the legal disclaimer? Because she knows that the View is defaming Matt Gaetz. If the View comes out and says he's a sex criminal, he's a this, he's that. And why? Well, they open it with the. They kind of bury the lead. They open it, they say Matt Gaetz denies the allegations. Yeah, we don't believe Matt Gaetz. We hate that guy. He's a total Jericho. We hate Matt Gaetz. And also, the DOJ investigated him for years and did not pursue any charges. In other words, they effectively cleared him of those charges. The same doj that we are told by the View is independent and above political considerations and is just merely enforcing the law, like lady justice with a blindfold on. The DOJ that is currently run by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris cleared Matt Gaetz for all intents and purposes. Ooh. And then she says, all right, so that's my disclaimer. And then they cut to commercial because they have nothing to say about that. If I read a disclaimer on some controversial issue, if lawyers made. I'm not saying they did, but let's say lawyers made me stop talking about how in the 2020 election, the Pennsylvania state constitution prohibits widespread indiscriminate mail in ballots, and yet the election officials and the Democrats sent them out anyway in contravention of the state constitution. If I brought up this kind of odd circumstance, it would seem unconstitutional circumstance. Maybe some lawyer would make me say, but the Supreme Court has ruled that it's okay to violate the Constitution or whatever. I would read that disclaimer if I were required to do so. But then I would comment on it. I would explain why I disagree with that interpretation of the law and why my view was obviously correct. But here, the view can't do that because they really have nothing. So the best they can do, the best the press can do, this is a masterclass, is eat crow and move on. That's the best they can do. I don't think we should really let them move on because I think they've so decimated their credibility that there need to be real consequences, like, for instance, tearing up the White House press room seating chart, which there has been some rumor actually will happen to bring in the new media voices and the podcasters and the streamers that even the establishment media are admitting run the show today. We'll see what happens. Now some Democrat politicians, even beyond the media, are being forced to own up to their lies. Here's one I really like. This from Hakeem Jeffries, the Democrat leader in the House of Representatives, soon to be the minority leader of the House of Representatives. Or, I'm sorry, he is currently the minority leader. Republicans even presently have a slim majority, but he will remain the minority leader in the next Congress. Hakeem Jeffries was asked by NBC on Meet the Press if he would agree with the widespread Democrat media. But I repeat myself. Characterization of Trump's DNI pick, Director of National Intelligence pick Tulsa Yabbard as a Russian asset. Here's what he says. Leader Jeffries, you're not willing to say she's a Russian asset. No, that's not how I would characterize her at this particular juncture.

Tom Homan (41:57)

But I'm open to scrutinizing whatever information is presented to all of us, but.

Michael Knowles (42:02)

This is going to fall on Senate Democrats and Senate Republicans. No, that's not how I would characterize her at this particular juncture. Sue is saying, I really want to characterize her this way, but I would not do that right now. Why? Where did this even come from? I love that this is even a question that the media can ask, because. What's it based on? It's based on a baseless accusation from Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton launched this defamatory campaign against Tulsi Gabbard back in 2020. She said she insinuated. And then a spokesman confirmed, she said that Tulsi Gabbard was the favorite of the Russians, and they were propping her up, and she's effectively a Russian asset. And the Democrats have run with this since then. Now, Hakeem Jeffries knows I'm not going to go there. Why not? I don't even think it's just because it's defamatory, because it's difficult to be held liable for defaming public figures in America. It's not true in every country, but in America it is. I think it's because Hakeem Jeffries is a pretty smart politician, and he realizes that to call Tulsi Gabbard a Russian stooge at this point is to call the voters Russian stooges. Because Tulsi was out there on the campaign trail with Trump regularly. It's not as though Tulsi hid her hand. And then when Trump won, she said, I support him, and now he's gonna put me in some position. She was campaigning with him. She was part of the deal in electing Trump. She was very, very public. She switched parties for this. And people voted in part for her. They voted in part for Bobby Kennedy. They voted in part for Elon Musk. They voted in part for Howard Lutnick. They voted in part for the prominent figures on the campaign, and that includes Tulsi Vivek, J.D. vance and Tulsi. So what Hakeem is realizing, because the Democrats lost the popular vote, because they lost one of five black guys, because they lost 46% of Hispanics, because they lost 40% of women under the age of 30, she's realizing, yikes, I can't pull the principal Skinner here. I can't say, am I out of touch? No. It's the children who must be wrong. I can't say it must be the voters who are wrong. I can't say the voters are stooges for the Russians. It's especially ironic because the Democrats were legitimately stooges for the. The Russians. For most of the 20th century, they were carrying water for Stalin. The New York Times lying about Stalin defending him. The American left broadly defending the Soviet Union and so many communist dictators. So it's kind of rich now that they're calling us the Russian stooges. But in any case, they realize, hi, I'm the problem. Maybe it's me now. There was a display on Piers Morgan's show, one of the great political TV shows. The man knows TV better than just about anyone. There was a great debate that I think summed up our political order. It just came out. It's going viral. Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks and Alan Lichtman. Alan Lichtman is the political scientist who has these keys. And his claim to fame is that he's accurately predicted all of the recent presidential elections with the exception of the 2000 election, which was contested. But he says he really got that one right and things got screwed up later. So he claims to have basically a perfect score, and yet his prediction was proven wrong in 2024. He thought Kamala was gonna win. And so there was a debate between Chenk and Alan Lichtman on Piers Morgan's show that totally sums up our current political order.

Tom Homan (45:21)

You don't know anything. You attacked me personally. So deluded. I've only been a professor for 51 years. I've never been able to finish a. How many books have you published? Published. Then no, because you're personally attacking me. Again, say whatever you want, but I'm not, brother. You got it wrong. Say you were preposterously and stupidly wrong.

Michael Knowles (45:42)

So. Okay, all right.

Tom Homan (45:43)

Can I just finish a God stupid ever on this show? No, not if you're personally. I admitted I was wrong. I don't need you to call me stupid. You deserve a tall glass of shut up juice. So can you just shut up for a second and let someone who knows what they're doing.

Michael Knowles (45:58)

So right. You're so right. I'm so unified right now.

Tom Homan (46:01)

I will not sit here and stand for personal attacks, for blasphemy against me. You don't need to do that. You don't.

Michael Knowles (46:09)

Blasphemy against you.

Tom Homan (46:10)

Who the hell are you? Are you Jesus Christ, you loser?

Michael Knowles (46:14)

Okay, sums it all up. There's a pundit versus a political scientist, and the pundit, Cenk Uyghur. Is exemplifying how obnoxious and degraded and immature and pointless so much modern political commentary is. There are few people who offer less value in political commentary than Cenk Uygur. So obnoxious, so disrespectful, so just grating to listen to. And then on the other side, you have the political scientist who I sympathize with more here, Alan Lichtman, who at least is attempting to act like a gentleman. But then at the end there, he says, you are blaspheming against me. Blasphemy is to speak against God. So he's claiming, and it seems to me maybe it was he just doesn't know the meaning of the word. It might have been a Freudian slip where you say one thing and mean your mother, where he's saying, like so many scientists do, especially political scientists, they say, I am God. I know the rules of the universe. My rules cannot be violated. My model with the keys and the predictions has to be correct. To criticize me, to contradict me is to blaspheme. That is our political order. And so both sides, completely wrong. The scientistic view of the world, totally wrong. The obnoxious, degraded leftist view, wrong and unpleasant. This is it. This is our political order. And this is together what the voters rejected. Okay, we have a guest coming on the Membrum segmentum, which we will get to for Theology Thursday. First, though, the rest of the show must continue beyond the hoi polloi on YouTube. I love all of you out there in YouTube land, but if you want to get all the good, juicy stuff with the chemdul ham, then you have to become a member of DailyWire.com, use code KNOWLES checkout for two months free on all annual plans. If Michael Knowles is good for anything, it's Mayflower cigars. And luckily, boxes of Mayflower's premium handmade cigars are now back in stock with limited quantities. Now's the time to sample Mayflower signature blends and stock up on your favorites. Plus, get yourself a beautiful Zika double guillotine cutter. Don't wait. These will sell out. You must be 21 years or older to order. Some exclusions apply. Go to mayflowercigars.com today.