Chris Cillizza (15:27)

As a reporter, I have a confession to make. I should have pushed harder earlier for more information about Joe Biden's mental and physical well being and any signs of decline. So let me explain. Joe Biden was president from 2020 to 2024. I worked at CNN through 2022. During that time, the early part when I was at CNN 2020-2022, people would regularly, Republicans would regularly ping me and say, why don't you ask more questions of Joe Biden and how he's doing? He's 76, 77, 78 year old man. And, and I would sort of brush them off because what I would say is, well, there's no obvious evidence that he's declining. Yeah, he moves a little slower, he talks a little slower, but there's no evidence that he's declining.

Michael Knowles (16:21)

He walks a little slower, talks a little slower. That, that would be evidence that he's declining, but it's a little more than that. I appreciate that Saliza is doing a minor, tiny little mea culpa here. I think we need a little bit of a bigger mea culpa. Oh, there was no evidence. There was no evidence. The guy was babbling. He'd be staring incoherently. The guy looked like he was drooling. He was stiff as a board when he was walking around. He couldn't remember the name of God. You remember that? One nation under. You know. You know the thing I understand Joe Biden was never the sharpest tool in the shed, but he used to at least be a kind of a slick talker for the. Ever since he left the Obama White House, he has not been his old self. And so Ciliza admits here he says, I brushed off those concerns, but you know, I shouldn't have done that. Anyway, here's my confession. Okay, good confession, but you need repentance when you confess and you need to ask forgiveness and then you can receive absolution. But we got to go all the way here. I don't want to read these reports. Wow. Can you. Breaking Joe Biden was diminished and the White House lied about it. I need you there when the White House is lying, that's when I need you there. But you don't wanna do that, or CNN didn't want you to do that, and the liberal media don't want you to do that. Because the liberal media don't exist to ask tough questions of liberal politicians. The liberal media exist to act as the propaganda arm for the liberal politicians. The media didn't just accidentally miss that story. They didn't just, you know, out of innocent neglect, forget to report on that story. They covered up Biden's decline just as much as the White House did. They're totally culpable in it. And so now even some of the White House aides, they're coming out and the Journal reporting as though, you know, this is some great journalistic find. No, you're all admitting that you lied. Anyone who was not speaking openly about Biden's senility, they're all kind of the same. The White House staff, the campaign staff, the journalists. Kamala Harris, you're admitting you actively lied to us. So the question is, why should we keep trusting you guys? Now, speaking of Joe Biden, the hits just keep on coming with the man who is still, I guess, technically president. Joe Biden just commuted the sentence of a woman who is implicated in the killing of two of her husbands and one of her boyfriends. Joe Biden granted clemency to just under 1500 people last week. The White House boasted about this, by the way. This should be a shame given some of these people. But the White House boasted, they said it was the largest grant of clemency in one day in American history. Within that grant of clemency, there were 39 pardons. One of them, according to reporting from the Washington Free Beacon, is Josephine Virginia Gray. Josephine Virginia Gray was sentenced to 40 years in prison back in 2002 for insurance fraud. What was the insurance fraud? The insurance fraud was her receiving payouts after the implausible murder of all three men that she was romantically involved with, two of whom she was married to between 1974 and 1996. She was then re sentenced to the same amount of time again in 2006 after she appealed. This woman collected $165,000 in these three insurance settlements combined. Three guys dead so that she can get $165,000. It's a lot of money, but it's not. I don't know. It's not even that much you think about three guys dead. She was charged with murder by Maryland state authorities, but she was never convicted for murder because she was convicted in Federal Court in 2002 for insurance fraud for violating the Slayer's rule meaning if you kill someone, you don't get to get the insurance money for their death. And then as a result they said, okay, well she's gonna be in prison basically for the rest of her life, so we don't need to pursue the murder charges. And Biden just commuted her sentence because he said, well, it was a nonviolent crime. Insurance fraud is a nonviolent crime. I guess insurance fraud, cuz you murdered people, that is a violent crime. That's at least a. The underlying crime there is rather violent, it would seem to me. Let's are off the hook. This is the Democrats on crime and it gets worse from there. It's important to focus on these because you have to, in order to set Trump up for the best kind of administration, you have to show people just how bad the situation for law and order is in this country. Joe Biden granting clemency for a woman implicated in three murders, convicted for insurance fraud related to those murders. But here's an even worse crime. Well, a different kind of crime. It strikes the heart as worse, but both are pretty egregious. An illegal alien from Mexico is on the run after filming and distributing video of himself committing unspeakable actions against an 8 year old child. This is a family show, so I won't say what those actions are. You can probably interpret and infer what I mean. He's on the run in Florida having been accused of filming himself committing this horrific act against a child in Martin county. He's a 37 year old illegal from Mexico. He has an active warrant for his arrest. This is not the only story like this. And the Trump administration needs to highlight every one of these stories because I promise you, when the deportations start, how many illegal aliens are there in this country? 11 million? 15 million? More. When the mass deportations start? You know that the liberal media, the dishonest, lying liberal media are going to post pictures of sweet little babes who are being pulled out of their homes by the mean old police and they're gonna pretend that all these illegal aliens are sweet, wonderful dreamers who never did anything wrong. And that is not the case. It's these guys. It's these guys who are gonna be deported. Some of the most heinous, hideous criminals ever welcomed in by Joe Biden, welcomed in by the Democrats for decades to commit unspeakable acts on children. Rarely held to account the acts committed. They were totally needless. They were only even in this country because the Democrats rolled out a red carpet for them and refused to enforce immigration law. Every one of these stories the Trump administration needs to to expose because the deportation policy is a matter of reason. It's a matter of reason. It's a matter of justice. Of course a country needs borders to be a country. That's what delineates a nation. Of course the American people have the right to enforce their basic immigration laws. Of course this is what the American people voted for. Not just in the electoral College, but the majority of Americans voted for this. Trump ran on this as a major issue. That's a matter of reason and logic and facts. But selling the deportations will be a matter of emotion. There's no question about it. When the deportations hit, it is gonna pull on heartstrings. I don't care how rock ribbed a conservative you are, the liberal media are gonna play on every little one of your heartstrings. And you should not be duped by this. You should not allow the media to trick you. The Trump administration needs to come out aggressively and show the reality of what illegal immigration means. Like horrific crimes that are implied by illegal immigration. That's a matter for our side of communicators. The libs have their communicators. That's all the news networks, that's the New York Times, Washington Post and so on. We need our communicators to push the truth out there. There's so much more to say. First, though, go to strongholdrescue.org as Americans, we are blessed to have people like the Navy Seals and Army Rangers to represent us and defend us during the worst of times. However, most countries when war and violence break out, there is often no one to help the people caught in the middle. That is where an organization called Stronghold Rescue and Relief steps in. 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Private donor has pledged to double the donation of every new supporter up to 25 grand total. So head on over there right now. Strongholdrescue.org My favorite comment yesterday is from Daxopoulous8753 who says that money, the money that the congressman voted to give themselves in raises or tried to vote to give themselves in raises, the CR went down. That money should be tied to actually doing your job well, like it is for the rest of us. I kind of kicked a hornet's nest yesterday because I said of all the things in the stupid continuing resolution, to me the least shocking one was the Congress giving themselves a modest raise. I think it was like a 4% raise or less than 4% raise after 15 years of not having had any raise. And I said, you know, this is not, this is a relative. I don't really care. Maybe it's an unpopular opinion. I don't care if they give themselves a tiny little raise. Doesn't affect the budget at all. They haven't had one in 15 years, whatever. But then people say, well, they don't do their jobs. The problem is they do do their jobs. The Republicans who obstruct the Democrats are doing their jobs. The Democrats who obstruct the Republicans are doing their jobs. There are people in Congress for whom we should say it is a national disgrace that they are sitting in Congress. These people don't have integrity, they don't have intelligence. It's disgraceful that some of these people are in Congress, but someone sent them there, they did get elected. The dysfunction of Congress is a little bit just the personal failings of the members. It's more just a structural problem. And it reminds us of the Mencken quote. I'll quote it a second time on the show. Democracy is the theory that the common man knows what he wants and deserves to get it good and hard. Speaking of criminals, Luigi Mangione, I was trying not to say the killer's name, but it's everywhere now, so I guess the cat's out of the bag. He is this the murderer who killed the United Healthcare CEO in cold blood. He was extradited to New York at a court hearing with 100 supporters outside. Supporters of a cold blooded killer who murdered a poor guy right before Christmas, who has a wife, who has kids, just murdered him. And some people cheer him on. Now, some of the supporters there, these people, I have a picture of it. If you're only listening to the show, go look it up. Some of these people, they're Down a bad path. They don't look like things are going well for them. They said free Luigi signs. Privatized healthcare is a crime against humanity. These are people. They're communists, they're lunatics, they're freaks. Freaks morally. Completely ignorant. Okay, there's that. There is an ideological aspect to the support for Luigi Mangioni. People who are just envious and covetous and without morality and consequentialists and all the rest. Every ism, every ist, that's nasty, they've got it. Sure. There is another side to it though. Okay. And the other side is, I think part of the reason some people are supporting him. This Guy's got a 20% approval rating. According to an Emerson poll that just came out, one in five people in America views this murderer positively. I think it comes down to the fact that he's pretty good looking. As crazy as that sounds, I think that's actually what it's about. The New York Times ran a story about him. This is what the Times wrote. This is New York Times paper of record. Luigi Mangione, the online version of him was an Ivy League tech enthusiast who flaunted his tan, tanned, chiseled looks in beach photos and party pictures with blue blazered frat buddies. Do we need to pour some cold water on whoever wrote this for the New York Times? They're not the only ones. He's a good looking guy. And he wouldn't be the first murderer, relatively good looking murderer that attracted people's attention. It reminds me of Ted Bundy. Women were throwing themselves at Ted Bundy, this psychosexual sadist, this serial killer who would commit truly unspeakable acts to all sorts of people. There was a woman, Carol Ann Boone, who was probably the most prominent of Ted Bundy's admirers. She moved to Florida, she moved across the country to be close to him. She married him, she had a kid with him, this complete psycho murderer. Because despite all of the evidence that Ted Bundy had beheaded and murdered and abused all of these people. Peeping Tom, Total, total psycho. Because she still believed that he was innocent, he wouldn't do that sort of thing. She had all sorts of pet names for him, Sweetie pie, all that sort of thing. What is that about? Well, that I'm afraid, you know, I love women. I'm very pro woman. I don't have a whiff of misogyny, but I am clear about the distinction between the sexes. This is a woman problem. This is the problem of women who can fix him. This is you, maybe if you're a woman, maybe you've experienced this. If you have women in your life, you can talk to them about this. The women who say, no, no, I can fix him. And men don't have this problem as much, but women do. They look at a guy, he can be a stone cold psycho killer, but if he's even moderately attractive, women will say, oh, no, he doesn't really mean it. Don't worry. Women, they're very nurturing by nature. Women are somewhat more persuadable in certain circumstances. And they can fix him. I think that's a big part of it. I'm all for delving into the deep ideological and philosophical roots of social phenomena, as you well know. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes. Sometimes it's just because the guy has chiseled looks and he goes and gets tanned. And I have to remind you, lest I be sued, that Luigi allegedly murdered that guy. He is but a suspect. He is not yet convicted of any crime. Even if he is convicted of the crime, as it seems likely he will be given the abundance of evidence, but he's still a suspect. If he is convicted of this crime, there will still be women who find him attractive. Not a good bet. Not a good bet to try to fix him. Luigi. Ted Bundy, anybody? Speaking of bad bets, Business Insider has a perspicacious take on 2024. Points out that 2024 was the year America started to bet on everything. And you don't even have to read the article. You know that this is true. In 2024, we saw the rise of meme coins. We were just discussing the other day how a new cryptocurrency called Fartcoin amassed a market cap of over $800 million, larger than many Fortune 500 companies. Even Bitcoin. Bitcoin, which many people maintain is a solid investment, is a solid asset, is a form of currency. But I think most people who invest in bitcoin, most people who buy bitcoin are doing that because they just want to see the price go up. So it's a speculative asset. It's just kind of gambling for most people, sports betting. There was a Supreme court decision in 2018, struck down a federal prohibition on sports betting. Sports betting is spread everywhere. 38 states + District of Columbia has sports betting. This is not great, all of the betting. Now, I say this as someone with friends of mine, multiple friends of mine, for going back 15 years now, whenever we have a meal, we go down, we have lunch or we go to the bar, have some Drinks. We will play rock, paper, scissors, shoot for the bill. We don't really split bills. We're not even that generous. Oh, please, let me get this. No, no. We play rock, paper, scissors, shoot for. I'm talking 15 years. Thousands and thousands of dollars over the years. You figure 15 years of the people you spend the most time with, you play every single bill. That's a kind of a gambling. Even last night I bought my annual lottery ticket. So a friend of mine bought a lottery ticket. I accidentally bought three, actually, because I don't really know how to buy lottery tickets. So I'm not. Look, I play poker sometimes. I'm not totally opposed to gambling. Gambling, I don't think is intrinsically sinful, but gambling is, I think, acceptable. I believe St Thomas Aquinas agrees on this. It's acceptable when it is a form of entertainment, when it is a way to facilitate conversation. You know, you sit around, you play a low stakes poker game, you're having conversation. It's a way for guys to hang out. So that can be really good. It can be kind of fun, harmless entertainments that can be games. There's a role for games in society. Where it becomes disordered is when you get a little too invested into it. When you begin to think of gambling and games as investments, that's really bad for the country because it becomes irresponsible, because it is unreasonable. We're talking about games of chance. We're talking about the wheel of fortune that you cannot control. It begins to wreak a little bit of desperation. If you've ever known a real gambler, you know, real gamblers are desperate. I kind of hate gambling, even though I do, you know, a little bit for the meal here or the coffee or the whatever. I kind of hate gambling because I hate losing money. And I expect I'm gonna lose money when I gamble. Do it for a little bit of fun, okay? But if you do it where you say, I really want that money, I really need that money, that seems desperate, because you can make money by working. You can make money by planning and working and being diligent. But I think this reflects a broader issue for the country, because I think the country in many, many ways has become irresponsible. Certainly we've abused our liberty to licentiousness, just as our founding fathers warned us not to. I think the country has become unreasonable. I think our politics is now largely a matter of irrational will, just clubbing each other over the head. And the country's become desperate. One in five women is hooked on depression pills. If that's not desperation, I don't know what is. People report being lonelier, sadder, more anxious. Men are dying, deaths of despair, suicide, overdosing. That's a desperation. That's not good. It's not that gambling is making us desperate and irresponsible. It's that the gambling is a symptom of that. The fact that even our investments now are largely gambles. Now, a little good news before we get into the mailbag. From my own state here. This is in the Tennessean headline, nashville's star is fading. The big sort is creating a rural and red revolution. I said, well, that's kind of odd. You mean Nashville star is fading? Everywhere I look around, there are cranes going up in Nashville. Huge building, housing prices are going way, way up. What are you talking about, Nashville star is fading? Well, the argument is Nashville is a liberal stronghold in a red state. That's what's fading. And why is that? A lot of people are moving to Nashville. I was one of those people. They're moving. Well, I'll just quote from the article. As widely reported, the Californians and New Yorkers flocking to our state come for largely political and cultural reasons, helping to explain how Trump's electoral margin of victory in Tennessee increased by roughly 4% from 2020 to 2024. That's the good sign. The population growth coming from blue states, myself included, within the last five years, coming from blue states, has made the state that everyone's moved to significantly more red, significantly more conservative. This is a good sign about the big sort. When I first went to move to Tennessee, it was a local. I was looking around and she said, hey, don't you California my Tennessee? I said, lady, I'm not your problem. I promise you. I promise you that is not what I'm moving here for. And that's true for many, many other people. This is what's called the big sort. That people, the conservatives are gonna move to conservative places, the liberals are gonna move to liberal places. It's actually one way in which our government might become more representative. A little glimmer of hope. With all the dysfunction in politics, if you have communities that are more ideologically or philosophically coherent, then you're going to have representatives who better represent the interests of the constituents.

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Unknown (38:45)

Hey Michael, got another music question for you. I have been tasked with putting together my first Christmas Mass and need some help putting together the catalog. This is a two part question. First, what are some of your favorite Christmas songs and who sings them doesn't have to be church related. Second, what Christmas hymns would you recommend for this mass? We have three that have been required by the pastor to play which are oh Come all ye Faithful, Silent Night and Joy to the World. I thought about putting together a couple very seldom heard songs such as Mary did you know for example, and mix traditional and modern together, despite your disdain. So to sum up my question, any requests? And for the record, this is a Catholic Mass. Thanks.

Michael Knowles (39:28)

Good. Yes, don't do the modern stuff, please. There's a song that's kind of a Advent song I guess, but it's so joyful that I would consider it a Christmas song too, which is Come thou long expected Jesus born to set thy people free. That's a good song. I'd recommend that. And then you already mentioned O Come all you faithful. I would just ask that perhaps you consider doing it in Latin. I really like the Latin. Ades fideles laetit veni te venihite in Bethlehem. And part of the reason I like that song is especially in the Latin. Some have suggested it is a Jacobite song. The Jacobites, for those of you, it's a little hobby horse of mine, but it's the claim that the throne of England really belongs to the Stuart heir, who is now a Bavarian prince named Franz, who has a brother named Maximilian, who has a daughter named Sophie, who has a son named Joseph Wenzel of Liechtenstein. It's kind of a long story, but the argument is that James II was booted out illegitimately by Parliament in an act of parliamentary supremacy that really screwed up the UK government, and they invited these interlopers, William and Mary of Orange, and that was the problem. So there were these risings to restore the rightful king. And Adeste Fideles, oh, come all you faithful has some clues in there that it's also about the Catholic heir, the Bonnie Prince Charlie, one of them being Regem Angelorum, King of the angels. But it also could be read Regem Anglorum, perhaps King of the English. So anyway, that's like a nice little secret. It's a little more esoteric, but that's a good one to do. Okay, next question.

Unknown (41:01)

Hey, Michael. Love everything you do. I accidentally stole from Walmart and immediately thought, I need to seek higher counsel. I went Christmas shopping for my three sons, and when I got to my van, recognized that I had stolen two books, $20, ish each, that I was planning to gift to my sisters. I went back in to pay for them, and both the doorman and the lady at the checkout was like, just keep it. What are you doing, man? Probably because I didn't want to admit that they had let me slip past them. Not only do I want to do the right thing, but I want to look at my sons in the eyes and say, be honest and know that I am doing the right thing. But how do you reconcile the fact that the Walmart employees were pushing me to steal? What are your thoughts?

Michael Knowles (42:02)

I think your interpretation's probably right, or they just are morally ignorant and darkened. But, yeah, part of it, I'm sure, is, oh, shoot, we didn't do our jobs right. Well, let's just cover this up. You are right. You should pay for it. You should pay for it because your soul is worth more than 40 bucks. That's why. You know, if you're gonna sell your Soul, you better sell it for more than 40 bucks. You actually can't sell your soul, but you can sin, which damages your soul, so you should pay the 40. You'd say, oh, no, I insist. So my soul's worth more than 40 bucks. Sorry. I dread the loss of heaven and the pains of hell, and I don't want to offend God. Take my 40 bucks. Sorry. I don't know. You guys are going to have to deal with repercussions. I'm not telling anyone, but take my 40 bucks. I agree. It would be different. This happened to me the other day. I was at a Corner Bakery in D.C. and I was getting some food for my kids, and I mentioned my kids and the lady behind the counter, very nice. She said, oh, how old are your kids? How many do you have? She said, I want to give you a couple cookies. Said, oh, that's so sweet. And I respect her authority as a work. She doesn't own the place, but she's a worker there, and I respect her authority and judgment to be able to give me a couple cookies. I didn't insist on paying for the cookies, but in this case, you were not offered something by the store. You just accidentally took something and then they didn't want to. They wanted to brush it under the rug. The staff didn't want to admit that they missed out. Pay the 40 bucks. Next one.

Unknown (43:29)

Hey, Michael. I got into a very heated argument with a friend the other day about is it cheating to be looking at lewd drawings, whether it be of a human woman or cartoon characters instead of watching traditional pornography? I argued that, yes, it is, as the drawings are meant to portray women in promotion, provocative manners, and his demeaning. But my friend argues that it is no different than seeing a painting in an art gallery and getting turned on by it. I then retorted that those paintings are meant to depict the beauty of the feminine figure in the same way something like the statue of David is meant to portray the majesty of a male figure. To which my friend replied, if he becomes sexually attracted to it, it's no different than porn. Honestly, it's like talking to a painting. And even the paintings would understand better. I'd really love your perspective on the matter. Thank you. And I will say it, since we can't say it in public anymore, apparently. But I hope you and your family have a merry Christmas.

Michael Knowles (44:22)

Thank you very much. Good question. Yes, you're right. Don't look at lewd images. Whether they are photographs, whether they are paintings or cartoons, or other drawn images that look A lot like photographs or whatever. If it's lewd, don't look at it. What's the difference between looking at a pornography or looking at some naked lady? I don't know, the Birth of Venus or something, what's the difference? I don't know, man. If you're walking around beautiful art galleries becoming aroused by Botticelli, something's gone wrong in your head, work that out. Okay, maybe go take a cold shower. But what is the distinction? Why is a naked woman okay in one instance in a depiction, but not in another? It's about whether or not the image appeals to the prurient interest. That's a word that we don't even really use much anymore. If it is intended to cause arousal, if it is lewd, if it is obscene and you know it when you see it. So yeah, that's wrong. If you look at, you know, a lewd image and you say, well, that's a photograph and that's wrong, but that's just an AI depicted image that looks like a photograph but it's not really a photograph. And so one is okay and the other is not. You're being really obtuse and you're trying to find a way out of it. If something is drawing up in you, your base passions contrary to reason, then tell your buddy, stop coping, don't look at it. Next one.

Unknown (45:52)

Hello, Mr. Michael, this is Stanley in Utah. Earlier this week on your show, you played a one round game of yes or no with producer Davies and the question was asked, is Die Hard a Christmas movie? A quick break? I also call that you would call that an advent movie. And I'm glad that you ended up agreeing with that, using the word Christmas movie the way most people do. I wanted to make an argument to you that Die Hard is not a Christmas movie. Because I feel that if I can convince you, a person who actually listens to facts and logic and will keep an open mind based on that information, if I can convince you, I think I can convince anyone. First off, what is a Christmas movie? A Christmas movie movie, in my mind is not simply set during Christmas. If that were the definition, then we'd have to consider movies like while you were sleeping with Sandra Bullock or the second Batman movie, Batman Returns with Michael Keaton. Those would have to be Christmas movies and simply because they're set during Christmas. My definition of a Christmas movie is one that you would only watch during that Christmas or for your sake, Advent season, for example, you probably would not watch movies like White Christmas or Home Alone on a given Day in July. Die Hard is a movie that if someone came in and I was watching it in the middle of summer, they wouldn't say, hey, why are you watching this Christmas movie right now? They would just sit down and enjoy the movie with me. Anyhow, that's my contention. I would love to know if that was convincing to you. Have a great day.

Michael Knowles (47:16)

That's a persuasive argument. But then, does that mean that it's also not an Advent movie? What is the question? You've convinced me on what is a Christmas movie? But our next Daily Wire documentary has to be what is an Advent movie? Hmm. We'll get to at least one written mailbag question from George Michael. What is the woke right? I keep seeing this term bandied about on X. Seems like every other post, but when I ask someone for a definition, all I get is grief for asking. It just seems to me that it's another instance of conservatives cutting their own throat, which they seem to do quite often. They often do. The woke right is a polemical term that means pretty much anything and therefore means nothing. The people, the liberals, classical liberals and libertarians and neoconservatives sometimes use the term woke right to refer to classical conservatives who are not liberals or libertarians or traditionalists or fascists or the Nietzschean right, the irreligious right, or really anyone who's not a liberal. Conversely, the illiberal right, be it Nietzschean, be it alt right, be it this right or whatever kind of right, they sometimes use the term woke right to refer to the liberals and the libertarians and the neoconservatives because they are more liberal, they share more in common with the left. And so they're kind of like the woke. And so it's really the terms just being thrown by everyone at everyone else in order to claim what it really means, truly to be conservative. So I don't use it. I don't find that term to be helpful really at all. If we're gonna try to argue about the heart of conservatism, then just come down to it. The people who say you're on the woke right cause you're not a liberal like me. Well, no, I'm a conservative. I'm a conservative because I'm not a liberal. So we're not all the same. There are a lot of people on the right and a lot of groups that don't agree with each other. The classical liberals, the post morality, post Christian, Nietzschean right, the traditionalists, the neocons, the populists. They say I'm not the first to observe it. That obscure political monikers are the right wing version of gender pronouns. And because they're all these ideologically incompatible groups, that's part of the reason that the Republican conference can't really ever get anything done in government. Why they have a lot more trouble doing that. Cause the left is united. They're all basically progressive of one shade or another, whereas on the right, we never seem to agree on anything. The rest of the show continues. Now. You do not want to miss it. Become a member. Use code noltskinwles at checkout for two months free on all annual plans.