Jack Barski (10:22)

All they knew was that a I was a hardcore communist and that I was pretty smart being recruited by the mighty kgb, that I'm like James Bond, you know, I had loved this woman and I could shake her off like this.

Michael Knowles (10:35)

Do you have to be kind of a sociopath to be a spy?

Jack Barski (10:39)

That's a good question. I've never been asked that question.

Michael Knowles (10:42)

What is the mission that you were sent into America to do?

Jack Barski (10:45)

Open up a business. And. And the KGB knew how to launder money and come to the United States with $20 million. With this kind of money, I would have made it into the upper echelons of society right next to the Pentagon, right I would have been a very dangerous spy. I thought I had become untouchable. With one exception, though, eventually a betrayal by a KGB agent. I became very depressed. One day I went to the altar at that church. I think it was my subconscious again forcing me to get up, go up there. And the pastor asked me, can I do something for you? And I said, I want to give my life to Jesus. It makes me almost cry. Sorry.

Michael Knowles (11:36)

Go watch the full episode now of Michael and Jack Barski and get it on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel. You can also subscribe to Daily Wire. Plus you get the ad free, uncensored, totally full on version Daily Wire Plus. The cybertruck terror attack was allegedly perpetrated by an active duty US Army Green Beret. That's according to law enforcement. He was a master sergeant. So this is a senior enlisted rank. This is E8, which makes the story way weirder. According to the Army, U.S. army Special Operations Command can confirm that this guy was assigned to the command and on approved leave at the time of his death. So he's in Germany. He gets leave around Christmas time. He goes, and then allegedly blows up the cybertruck at the Trump Hotel. According to the Metropolitan Police department, Sheriff Kevin McMahill, this guy, the Green Beret, was found inside the vehicle with a self inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Hold on, put a pause right here. You're telling me that this active duty Green Beret comes back to America, drives a cybertruck up to the Trump Hotel, shoots himself in the head, and then blows up the cybertruck? Now, I guess it's possible he could have just timed the truck to detonate. So he shoots himself in the head. He clicks it, you know it's gonna go off and it's a matter of time. Shoots himself in the head and then it explodes. Except we have some video of this. If the guy blew his brains out in the truck, there were people. He was at a valet stand. There were valets around him. No one noticed that. No one heard the gunshot. It's possible the cybertruck is a real tough vehicle. That seems a little weird to me. Did this guy just have it out for Trump? I don't know. I know some Green Berets. I know a number of people in Special Forces. They're not usually liberal Democrats. They're not usually Kamala voters. And according to reports, this guy was a Trump supporter. Apparently he was a pretty serious Trump supporter. So he's. Hold on. He's gonna take the Elon Musk car. That's the car of Trump's most prominent supporter. And then he's gonna kill himself by blowing up a truck in front of Trump Hotel, in front of the hotel owned by the guy that he supposedly supports for president. Hold on, it gets weirder. Law enforcement says this guy did not have any help carrying out the attack. Surveillance cameras track him all alone on his trip from Colorado Springs to Las Vegas. Then you got an independent journalist, Nick Sorter, who's reporting that this guy was trying to recruit mercenaries to go fight in Ukraine. Now this is making my mind think of Ryan Routh, the guy who tried to murder Trump on the golf course in the second assassination attempt on President Trump. That guy was also actively trying to recruit mercenaries for Ukraine. Now, I have a letter somewhere in my home office. I have a letter from Congress that was sent to me to warn me that I was on something like a Ukrainian hit list for raising any questions about Ukraine funding. I'm not even actively anti Ukraine. I ended up on that list. That's very strange. You got the two guys who, two of three guys who perpetrate major anti Trump attacks who are not in the federal government. Actually, they were in the federal government because they worked for the Army. But put that aside. You got the assassination attempt in Pennsylvania, you have the assassination attempt on Trump's golf course, and you have this explosion at the Trump Hotel. Two of those three guys were actively trying to recruit people to go fight in Ukraine. That's pretty weird. There's, according to Sorter, there's a photo of this guy wearing a Glory to Ukraine shirt. There's no firm confirmation of this stuff. It's just kind of floating around social media, and it's hard to pin down this guy's social media right now. Now you add on top of this that senior non commissioned officers, like a master sergeant, like E8, pay grade. These are supposed to be pretty seriously vetted individuals. Now you add on top of this. Again, I don't want to suggest anything, I don't want to speculate, but that is what I'm gonna do. He uses a car, one of the few vehicles in the world that can be remotely controlled. I have friends who have Teslas. They can summon the Tesla to come drive to them. You don't have to be actively driving it. And then we're told that the guy actually was dead before the explosion went off. And then this part's really weird. They can identify him in part because he was carrying his military id. All right? That's normal. And his passport. Now, maybe look, I guess he'd flown in from Germany some days prior. But he's. Hold on. Why is this guy carrying a passport if he's going to carry out an attack? That's domestic. He was already in America. What's he need his passport for? And then on top of that, you're telling me that the passport survived the firebomb, he had all these explosives in the truck, and the passport survives such that that officers can identify him? Not saying it's impossible. I'm saying it's real weird. I'm really not offering an alternative theory as to what's going on here. The only point I want to make is that it is perfectly rational to consider alternative theories than what we are being told by agencies of the government that have repeatedly lied to us specifically about Donald Trump in recent years. Especially when a mere turn of a head by about 20 degrees over the summer, an implausible last minute jerk of the head, is the only reason that Donald Trump's brains were not splattered on a stage in Pennsylvania back in the summer. And then another assassination attempt, absolutely implausible. Security failures. And now this attack, this attack for which the more that we learn, the less it makes sense. Pretty strange. So let's zoom up. Let's go all the way up to the head of the Department of Homeland Security, the guy who's supposed to be keeping us safe. What has that guy been working on to keep us safe from terror attacks during his term in office? The guy who's supposed to keep us safe from all the terrorism tells us exactly what he thinks is the greatest terror threat. Back in 2022, this was him speaking at the National Action Network. National Action Network is a left wing group. It's really just Al Sharpton's extortion racket. It's just a group, a slush fund that allows Al Sharpton to shake down people by threatening to call them racist. Here's what Mayorka said there, and what we in the Department of Homeland Security have assessed is that the greatest terrorism related threat that we face in the homeland is the threat, threat of domestic violent extremism. Individuals drawn to violence because of ideologies of hate or false narratives propagated on social media and other online platforms. And the most prominent threat is the.

Tom Holman (18:48)

Threat of white supremacists.

Michael Knowles (18:50)

That's it. That's the most prominent threat. Never mind that a guy named Abu Al Jabbar, Al Jabbar Al Jabari or whatever is not his real name. I try not to use their real names. Guy with a pretty Arabic sounding name Carrying an ISIS flag is the one who mows down people on New Year's Eve in New Orleans. Never mind that. Well, the story about Vegas doesn't make any sense. Kind of like that other attack in Bay. Remember the Las Vegas shooter, that mass shooter in Las Vegas that we never really learned basically anything about some years ago now, just wiped from the news. But I don't think he was a white supremacist. I don't think the guy who nearly murdered Trump over the summer was a white supremacist. I don't think Ryan Routh, unsuccessful attempted assassin, was a white supremacist. Doesn't seem like the biggest threat to me. Totally, totally ridiculous explanation. But of course, this guy, Alejandro Mayorkas is the guy who's in charge of the border. At least officially in charge of the border. Kamala Harris was made the border czar by Joe Biden in 2021, but he's officially in charge of the border. He's the guy who's let all these people in, including, by conservative estimates, what, a thousand Islamic terrorists? Totally ridiculous. But then this made me think of something really strange. We've just entered into 2025 and how are we entering into 2025 with all the debates that have been going on, debates over terrorism, debates over immigration, debates over H1B visas, debate. It seems to me now the conclusions we've drawn in the last two weeks are the biggest threat is from Muslim terrorists. Legal immigration is good. We want more legal immigration. Forget about restricting immigration. We want more legal immigration. But it's got to be legal. It can't be illegal immigration. We just had regime change in a Ba'athist state in the Middle east, in Syria. And it made me think, is 2025 just 2005? Are we just in a time machine? We're like three free trade agreements away from just being all the way back in Bush era politics. We talk about the political horseshoe a lot. Things circle back, history repeats itself. We might be just right. Back in the mid 2000s, I hope that I can make a lot of money shorting Bear Stearns. I'm not sure that that's the case. Now, before we get to a little levity, because there was a beautiful display on cnn. A comedienne on New Year's Eve just destroyed CNN and the Democrats. And it has political significance. We'll get to that in one moment. First, I want to tell you about yes or no. Do not miss the latest episode of yes or no, featuring comedian John Crist. Here's this teaser oh, mention never take a paternity leave. Not because there's anything wrong with taking care of the family, but because you don't want people to think you're a lesbian. Okay, I didn't read the end of that. Hold on, hold on. Watch the full episode now on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel or subscribe to see the uncensored ad free totally cool uncut version over at Daily Wire. Plus, there was finally good TV on cnn. This was great. It's been many, many years, but CNN is doing coverage around the new year and a comedian, Whitney Cummings, goes on. She's on screen with Anderson Cooper. Here's what she had to say.

Whitney Cummings (22:18)

2024 election fried our brains. The Democrats couldn't hold a primary because they were too busy holding a body upright. Are we still rolling? Am I off?

Michael Knowles (22:28)

Go for it.

Whitney Cummings (22:29)

It was amazing that the pro choice party didn't give their voters one when it came to the presidential candidate. K was forced on us so hard you'd think she was patented by Pfizer or Moderna. Whichever one's. Oh, God. Andy just gave me a very scary look. No, I love going around the country cuz you see that Americans really are more reasonable than they would be portrayed.

Michael Knowles (22:49)

Absolutely.

Whitney Cummings (22:50)

They're pretty great. And I'm playing bigger and bigger venues now. I thought being a mom would mean that less people will want to come see me. I'm not playing, you know, like 3,000 Seek theaters, which is about the viewership of CNN these days. Not this show though.

Michael Knowles (23:01)

Nice, nice.

Whitney Cummings (23:02)

All eyes are on this show.

Michael Knowles (23:04)

Wow, you're awful. You know, Andy and I, Andy and I had a tour. We did like 2,000 people. Yes. Love it, Totally love it. Whitney Cummings, I've seen her a little bit over the years and she's like kind of funny. I don't think she's some right wing conservative though. And yet that's the bit she does on cnn. Why? Because I think just everyone is a conservative now. I had this conversation with my wife, she said this to me six or eight months ago. She goes, meg, are liberals real? So what do you mean are liberals real? She goes, I just don't. Like, I know that everyone's a liberal and the liberals control everything, but like everyone I talk to anywhere, like even people you wouldn't expect, they all hate Kamala and they hate Biden and they don't. They're just. Are there any actual liberals? And I think the comedian that they bring on cnn, they have their pick of the litter. They bring one on and her whole set is mocking the Democrats, mocking the party, mocking Biden, mocking the DNC leadership that voiced a Kamala on them, mocking CNN to their face. That's a cultural shift, because I don't. She's probably liberal. I don't know. I assume most comedians are liberal in a sense, but the common sense right now is not liberal. It's not just that Whitney Cummings went on CNN and said she was gonna stick it to them and have a really provocative performance. Sure, that happened. But just think about the alternative. What other jokes was she gonna do? Is she gonna do Trump jokes? That would be so stale. That would be such a groaner. The point she makes about CNN having low ratings now, that's real. People don't watch CNN anymore. So she's got to play to her audience. The audience now is much more conservative. The libs have lost the audience. They've literally lost the audience on their TV networks, and they have lost the audience at the ballot box, and they've just lost the common sense. That's it. Liberals might not be real at some point. I think they were real, but I don't think that they're really real anymore. Okay, back to really sad, scary, terrible stuff. Tom Holman, who is the new border czar, is the deportation czar under President Trump. He just drew attention to some numbers that I think even most right wingers, even most Biden critics are not really aware of. We know Biden's let millions of foreign nationals into our country. Unvetted, terrible. The cartels have control of the border. Do you understand just how many children have not only been let into the country illegally, but have been lost by the Biden administration? We talk more about those many, many.

Tom Holman (25:49)

Children that are missing, the unaccompanied children.

Michael Knowles (25:52)

That came across the border. What kinds of plans do you have to retrieve these kids or to find them?

Unnamed Speaker (25:57)

Well, look, I've been honest right from day one that this is going to be one of the most difficult things we've ever done. Based on my three and a half decades doing this job, a lot of these children are going to be in forced sexual slavery. Many are going to be enforced labor, and not all of them, but many of them are living a life of hell every day. And we got to rescue these children. We'll do the immigration consequences afterwards versus their health and safety and rescue them. I guarantee you we're going to find some of these children in horrendous, horrendous conditions.

Michael Knowles (26:31)

This has to be the GOP's message. The GOP has to follow through on this, as a matter of justice, I always preface my political advice with the actual hard issue. As a matter of justice, the Trump administration, Tom Holman, need to follow through on this and find the hundreds of thousands of kids that Joe Biden has allowed to go missing, many of whom, if not most of whom, are in sexual slavery or other forms of indentured servitude. Also, as a political matter, this has to be the message, because you know that the minute any deportations start, the Democrats are going to drag out the sweetest looking old abuela, crying, being pulled away from her grandchildren and from her stove, being thrown back to El Salvador or wherever, and they're going to say that the GOP is heartless and we need to welcome these people in. The reality of illegal immigration is not sweet little abuelas making paella. The reality of illegal immigration is hundreds of thousands of kids go missing, many of whom are in sexual slavery. The reality of illegal immigration is Lake and Riley gets murdered and many other people like her get murdered by illegals who shouldn't be here. The reality of illegal immigration is that the worst people on earth, these cartels at the border, some of whom are literally Satanists, face tattooed animals who literally worship Satan, are sending people into our country. That's the reality of illegal immigration. You have to drive that home. Because the populace is fickle sometimes people's appetites change. They move with prevailing political winds. The winds are in our favor right now. But do not doubt that the Democrat propaganda machine is still a powerful tool. They've lost a lot of their audience, but there is still a powerful tool. Okay, there is a story I really, really want to get to. This is crazy. Bill Gates. The Bill Gates foundation has funded research that is going to turn mosquitoes, in fact, has turned mosquitoes into flying syringes to vaccinate people not only against their will, but without their knowledge. That's real. I know it's a. I know it sounds like I should be talking in this kind of voice right now and about gay frogs and things. That sounds dope. Makes sense. He was right about the gay frogs. But. But this is real. Bill Gates. The Bill Gates foundation backed Leiden University Medical center has turned mosquitoes into flying syringes to vaccinate people without their knowledge. But we don't have time to get to that story. We'll have to get to it on Monday, I guess, because we gotta get to the mailbag. You know, the first few days of 2025 have made one thing clear. Our work is far from over. The terror attack in New Orleans, the cybertruck explosion at President Trump's hotel. They've shaken the country. It's moments like these when you need the facts, clarity, not confusion. That is why the Daily Wire exists, to bring you the truth that the establishment media won't touch, delivered by the most handsome voices in the conservative movement. Live breaking news, uncensored daily shows, and investigative journalism that cuts to the heart of the story. Do not wait. Join the fight for truth today@dailywire.com subscribe My favorite comment yesterday is from what a great name is Jesus Rex Mundi who says my favorite yes or no collab this flew by. Had a blast listening. I guess that's about the John Crist yes or no. So go check that out on YouTube or DailyWire plus if you haven't yet. Finally, finally after what has it been, two weeks, we get to my favorite time of the week when I get to hear from you in the mailbag. The mailbag is brought to you by PureTalk. Go to PureTalk.comKnowles to get your PureTalk phone and service. Take it away.

Unnamed Caller (30:14)

Hello Michael, I am seeking some fairly odd friendship and marriage advice. My best friend of nearly 15 years and the best man in my wedding a couple years ago has decided to make a move on my wife through some cryptic texts. I took it as level headed as I could at the time, but since then my wife has taken it a bit harder than I have. I told her I have no issue cutting out someone who has encroached on our marriage, but she would prefer to talk things out and get him help if he needs and possibly leaving the door open to friendship down the road. But I am a bit torn between just cutting him out of my life and my wife being a bit emotional in the short term or letting the proverbial wolf back in the chicken coop. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Michael Knowles (31:03)

Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I don't mean to laugh at your situation, though luckily it seems nothing has transpired. No, that guy is done. He's done. He's over you. Delete his phone number. I'm not saying you should threaten him or any. You shouldn't do that. You should have patience and grace and charity and everything. But he needs to know that if he ever steps foot on your property, it will not go well for him. What? Are you kidding me? I would say, look, I want to be as encouraging of charity and grace here as I possibly can. Maybe you tell him when you're threatening to remove various appendages of His. Maybe you tell him, hey, look, buddy, you have a big problem. And if you ever want some help at some point, I'm willing to offer you some help. But if you ever even look at my wife again, if I see in your eyes that you're even thinking about my wife again, not going to go well. And then you tell your wife, she deletes his number. She blocks his number, and she better not speak to that guy. She better not think about that guy again either. This would be a moment where the most charitable reading of this is your wife just has a big heart and she wants to help people and whatever you need to step in as the head of your household, as a husband, and help her from falling into that error of too much empathy. Okay. And no, I don't think so. Absolutely. You have so much patience and grace that you're even speaking in that measured tone. That guy. I'm thinking of the untouchable scene. I want his family dead. I want his house burned to the ground.

Unnamed Caller (33:02)

I want to go to the.

Michael Knowles (33:03)

Yeah, that would be more my reaction, I think. So you've had a gracious reaction. Don't be suicidally empathetic. That's not good for your family. It's not good for him. It's not good for anyone involved. Next question.

Unnamed Caller (33:20)

Mr. Knowles, thanks for taking the time. You mentioned on Monday that animals only have instinct and appetite, while humans also have intellect and will. In that case, what would you call it when a dog, or comparably quote intelligent animal, looks both ways for their master, does something they will be punished for, and then tries to hide it? This seems a little too involved to be simply mimicry to me. Couldn't this be a form of willfulness? I'd love to hear you go into greater detail on this difference between humans and animals and the souls of each. Thanks. 30 seconds.

Michael Knowles (33:51)

No, it's not much more. Willfulness. I think your point is good, that a dog demonstrates a greater degree of will and a greater degree of intellect than, say, a rock does or than a tree does or than a goldfish does. However, it would be wrong to say that even dogs, even man's best friend, possesses intellect or will. And the way that you can know that you believe that is that you would never put a dog on trial for stealing an extra treat or something like that. The dog has an appetite and the dog has instinct. And maybe the dog's instinct is to check. Check out for threats. Make sure you're not looking. You're going to check to make sure the owner's in the other room. And then he goes. Follows his appetite to get the treat. But the dog, and this is, I think, the crucial distinction. The dog is not capable of subordinating his appetites to his, well, higher degree of instinct or what you would be tempted to call intelligence. He can't do that. The dog is just. He's gonna go get that treat. He can't control that. He's kind of on autopilot. Humans can. That's why we put humans on trial and we hold them accountable for violating notions of abstract justice about which humans alone among the incarnate creatures can reason. Next question.

Unnamed Caller (35:24)

Hey, Michael. My name is Ryan and I work in a cigar lounge in Ohio. Over the last few weeks, I have had an increasing number of customers come in and ask if we have Mayflower cigars. I had a conversation with one gentleman about the new Mayflower compacts, and he was really interested in them, but unfortunately we didn't carry them. And he was actually able to order them online. And he even brought one in and gave me one and we shared them. We had a great conversation. And there's really some buzz going on around Mayflower cigars and people are excited and bringing them in, and we obviously don't carry them yet. So I just wanted to know what I have to do to get some Mayflower cigars for the fine people of Columbus, Ohio. Thanks, Michael.

Michael Knowles (36:10)

Great question. That might be my favorite question we've had in weeks. And I've gotten similar questions actually before. We are taking on retail shops now. We don't have a huge team built out and we have more people who are reaching out to us than we have a team to actually service for retail. But the way that you can apply to become a retailer is to go to mayflowercigars.com stores. You go on the website, there's a link to become a retailer. Just submit an inquiry through that. We want to be. We are committed to being in brick and mortars. This is a major priority for me from the beginning of starting the company because I think part of the reason I started the company is cigars are about a certain kind of culture. Guys go to a lounge. It's a great equalizer. It's just a wonderful culture and we live in time and space and we're incarnate beings. And so you gotta do stuff with people in real life. So if you apply to become a retailer, we're going to try, especially in the spring, to get as many of those retail shops serviced with Mayflowers as we can. There's a little bit of a production issue because we have more demand than we are able to produce cigars. But in any case, go there mayflowercigars.com stores. You can apply there and hopefully we'll get cigars to Ohio very quickly. All right, last voicemail bag.

Tom Holman (37:26)

Hey Michael, I have a question related to heaven. I know I'm talking to a podcaster and not a priest, but I'm curious your thoughts and beliefs about what heaven actually means and how it works. And one of the specific areas I want you to talk about is interrelational states within heaven. And by that I mean obviously we live in a society of humans where we run into people all the time, we have neighbors, we have friends, we have family, etc. How does that all translate in a long term or forever term heaven like scenario? I'm really curious of your thoughts on this topic. Thank you so much.

Michael Knowles (38:24)

Great question. Will we have wives in heaven or will we have friends in heaven? Or will we go to the cigar lounge in heaven? We might go to a Mayflower cigar lounge in heaven, but we won't have relationships in the way that we presently have relationships because we will have direct access to God. The most important relationship, Heaven, might be defined as unity with God. The scriptures tell us a little bit about heaven. So these are not my original views. This is the consistent teaching of the church rooted in scripture. Heaven is unity with God. In Heaven we behold the beatific vision. So to make it simple, you die. You have a particular judgment. The particular judgment is going to determine where are you going forever. Are you going to heaven or are you going to hell? And are you going to heaven? Do you need a little purification first? You're going straight to heaven. Probably you need a little purification would be my guess. I probably will. But you're there. Your soul and body are split at the moment of death. Your body decays, unless you're incorruptible, which is a separate case, and your soul is in heaven. Heaven is when you can behold the beatific vision. You can see God face to face. You are one with God. Then there will be the general judgment after the particular judgment, you know, the end of days, Our Lord comes to judge the living and the dead. His kingdom will have no end. We have glorified bodies, but we're not going to be coupled in heaven. If you've been married and God forbid your wife dies and then you get married again, you don't need to worry about are we going to be polygamous in heaven. Or something look eye has not seen. Nor can we imagine what heaven will be like exactly, but we can have some inkling of it. So we will have unity with God, which means we will also comprehend in God the entire order of the cosmos. And this is everlasting joy. And we will have bodies too. In the resurrection of the body, this is in the creed we believe not just in a soul flitting through outer space or in eternity, but the resurrection of the body. So Scripture tells us about 4 marks of why, what things are like in the life of the world to come. Again, this is just 2000 years of church teaching. The first is subtlety, the total subordination of the body to the soul. Our bodies and our souls are sometimes a little bit at odds here on Earth. You know, we do things we don't want to do. We don't do things we do want to do. We fall prey to concupiscence. But there will be a total subordination of body to soul. There will be agility, the ability to move at the speed of thought. This you see in Christ Resurrected. You see all of these things. This is where we get the intuition of what the glorified body is like, the ability to be at the end of the earth, at the end of the universe, just instantaneously there is impassibility. This is the inability to die or to suffer. There will be no suffering. The lion will lie down with the lamb. There will be no suffering, there will be no death. And then glory. Scripture tells us that we will shine like the sun in the glorified body. So those are the things we can look forward to. And sometimes we think, well, I don't know if I can't be with my dog in heaven. Is it really heaven or something like that? C.S. lewis took this up in the Great Divorce. He said, well, can there really be joy in heaven knowing that there are people suffering in hell now? CS Lewis's answer is, it's hard to imagine now in our fallen state, or rather in our fallen world, but it might be the case that actually there's great joy in heaven, joy at the justice of the damned receiving their just deserts in hell. It's very difficult to comprehend this on earth. But there will be no suffering, there will be no tears, except the tears of joy at the central fact of heaven, which is oneness with God. Beholding the beatific vision. I want to get to one written mailbag because we're not going to have a member block today because I'm stuck in my home office and we'll be back in the studio next week. Unless this oddly shaped snowstorm decides to move in and forces me to be locked up in my home again. I won't describe the shape of the snowstorm. You can see it on AccuWeather. Question from Ashley Michael, my sister's friend from church, got married this year. She has very different views on what a woman's role in marriage is. For example, she doesn't believe in birth control based. She believes that women should carry the baby to full term whether she wants to or not. She shouldn't. She believes that women should have kids, that sex should be oriented toward kids, and you shouldn't kill your kids. Okay, I'm on board. She seems great. Does she have a sister that I can introduce my friends to? She also thinks the husband should be in charge of deciding how many children the woman should have and that intimacy should only be used to procreate. Okay, well, it's not so much that the husband decides. I mean, the husband is the head of the household, so he decides in a grand sense of things. But it's more that the husband and the wife are both accepting marriage for what it is, which is that marriage entails a perfect sharing, a perfect intimacy between husband and wife, which is necessarily open to life. So it's not merely the norm. MacDonald, take that sex is a filthy, shameful thing that's obviously only meant for procreation. It's not quite that, but it's that sex is for procreation. And so you shouldn't foreclose that opportunity. But it doesn't mean times of the month where it's not likely. You can't have a roll in the hay with your spouse. My sister sees this as a red flag because it limits the woman's freedom in her marriage. Again, it limits her freedom in the false sense of freedom that liberal modernity gives us, the Luciferian sense of freedom that tells us that freedom is the ability to do whatever we wish and to worship ourselves. But in the classical sense of freedom, certainly in the Christian sense of freedom, freedom is the right to do what we ought to do. It's not the freedom of the heroin addict to kill himself on the street. It's the freedom to flourish. And so in that sense, it wouldn't limit the woman's freedom at all. Now, Ashley goes on, I, on the other hand, chose not to interfere because at the end of the day, it's her marriage. She can do whatever she wants with her husband. What do you think? Love the work and all the work that you and everyone at the Daily Wire do. May God be with you and your family. Thank you so much. Well, I guess I've given you my take. She seems great. She seems. May every man be so lucky to find a woman as that. I think she's doing a good job and a lot of people have a lot to learn from her. That's our show. We don't have a member block, but I will see you Monday. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.