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On Saturday night, Immigration and Customs Enforcement arrested Mahmoud Khalil, a former Columbia graduate student who led pro Palestine demonstrations on campus last year. Yesterday, a federal judge blocked the Trump administration from deporting Khalil until a meeting on Wednesday. Leftists are arguing that Mahmoud should stay because they hate Israel and support Palestine. Some on the right are arguing that Mahmoud should stay because they think his protests are protected free speech, regardless of what they think about Israel or Palestine. I, for one, think Mahmoud should be deported, not because I care all that much about the Israel Palestine conflict, but because he's a Columbia graduate student and all Columbia graduate students should be deported, even if they're American citizens. At a time of tectonic political shifts, what is the correct conservative American take? What do we believe? I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. 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And this guy hates Israel, so deport him for that reason. But there are gonna be some people who say, look. Well, there are gonna be some people on the right who say, I don't Like Israel. And so I actually like this guy, that he's pro Palestine. He should stay here. There are gonna be some people who say, even though I'm the most ardent pro Israel supporter in the whole world, I think this man has a right to free speech and he can lead protests even if they're disruptive, even if they threaten students, even if they cause all sorts of problems. I'm a little bit simpler about it, I guess. I try not to get too lost in the ideology of constantly talking about rights and in the ideology of liberalism and in the ideology of free speech and academic freedom. And this ism. And that ism. I look at it, I say, okay, is this guy. He's a citizen or he's not a citizen? Oh, he's not a citizen. Okay. He's not even a student anymore. He graduated in December. Okay, so he's not a citizen, which means he has no right to be here in the United States. I look at the protests that he was involved in. I don't know. I mean, the Israel Palestine conflict, I guess, is complex, but I don't know. You're supporting the side that's run by Hamas. That's a little sus to me. And those protests were quite nasty to Jewish students in particular at Columbia. And I don't really care all that much about the Israel Palestine conflict. And I do wish that we in America were as muscular at tackling anti Christian discrimination as we are at tackling anti Jewish discrimination, anti Muslim discrimination, anti this ism, anti that ism. But Christianity is the one religion that we are allowed to and actually encouraged to mock in public and denigrate and push to the side. So all of those things considered, yeah, yeah, sure. But my chief question for immigration is, what benefit are these people to America? In some cases, in rare cases, we take in refugees out of the goodness of our heart because it's gracious and charitable and we were strangers in the land of Egypt. That's a relatively small act aspect of what we're talking about here. When it comes to immigration, the primary question, at least to my mind, is do these people benefit America? In fact, that's how our immigration laws are written. That's how basically all immigration laws everywhere in the world are written. Does this person benefit the country? Do they do a job, for instance, that people in the country can't do? Do they offer some special benefit if they do let them in? Maybe. And if they don't, don't let him in. So I look at this guy, I say, okay, his political ideology is pretty whack, and he doesn't seem to be contributing all that much to the country. And he's a Columbia graduate student, which means his views are almost certainly horrible and he's very unlikely to support America. So I don't know. To me, it's a little bit more of a practical, prudential question. I'm not gonna lose sleep over Mahmoud Khalil being deported after leading a bunch of his fellow Columbia grad students, one of the most left wing of the Ivy League schools, which are already left win. Not gonna lose sleep over that. Now, speaking of ideological conflict and immigration for that matter, a clip has gone viral from Jubilee's Surrounded show. This is the show that I was on a month ago. It's the show where, you know, one person surrounded by 20 or 25 people who disagree with him, and he's gotta just debate them successively. So it was me versus 20 or 25 LGBT LMNOP activists. That was an hour and 40 minutes. You can go watch it over at the Jubilee Channel. This week's episode was with a left wing political commentator named Sam Sater. And Sam Sater showed up and he was surrounded by, I guess, 20 or 25 conservatives. They were debating all sorts of questions, one of which was religious fundamentalism. We'll get to that in a moment. The other of which was immigration. And so he's sitting down next to this right wing journalist, Sarah Stock, and they're just getting down to brass tacks on immigration. And Sam Sater cannot believe the things that she is saying. Take a listen.
