Gavin Newsom (16:27)

These guys are crushing us. The Democratic brand is toxic right now. We had a high watermark two weeks ago and that was a CNN poll at 29% favorability. It's dropped in the NBC poll, pull down to 27%. It's one thing to make noise, but you also have to make sense. And I think with this podcast and having the opportunity to dialogue with people I disagree with, it's an opportunity to try to find common ground and not take cheap shots. I'm not looking to put a spoke in the wheel of their, or at least a crowbar in the spokes of their wheel to trip them up to your point. And I think it's important, Democrats, we tend to be a little more judgmental than we should be. This notion of cancel culture, you've been living it, you've been on the receiving end of it for years and years and years. That's real. And Democrats need to own up to that.

Michael Knowles (17:09)

Okay, so this is the clearest sign yet of something that I at least was calling some weeks ago. I think a number of other people figured it out too. Newsom is having his sister soldier moment. He's having his big pivot here. He's disavowing the far left of his party and he's gonna position himself as the centrist for the presidential cycle. That's kind of funny because Newsom has been on the bleeding edge of the left side of his party for decades at this point. He was officiating so called gay weddings in 2004 when that was explicitly outlawed by federal law. Newsom has. Well, he allowed one of his cities to burn to the ground because of his extreme policies. He used the word Latinx when even members of the Democrat party were making fun of it. He's pro transgenderism, all this kind of stuff. So why the pivot? Cuz he sees which way the winds are blowing. If you wanna know how to run a government, don't ask Gavin Newsom. But if you wanna know how to win an election, that guy's actually got some insight. And he survived that recall election in California even after it was clear what a bad governor he was. He knows a thing or two. He's a meticulous politician and he's making a pivot now. His podcast is a big part of that. And even looking at his podcast, at the setup of it, I realized just how meticulous he is. Because his podcast in its aesthetic is directly copying the first successful politician podcast ever, a podcast that coincidentally I co hosted for years Verdict with Ted Cruz. With Verdict. When we set up that podcast, we made sure we had a certain kind of leather chair, that the seats were a certain distance apart. There was no table, There was no desk. It was not formal. It was this way. It was that way. We spent a long time crafting the aesthetic of that podcast. Gavin Newsom took it. Now that kind of aesthetic has become more common, but Gavin Newsom took it, and I know exactly how it happened. Newsom said, okay, I need to be more relatable. I need to be more likable. I need to reach people in a more intimate way, which is the reason for a politician to do a podcast in the first place. And so what's the most successful version of that? The most successful version of that kind of podcast is Verdict with Ted Cruz. So I'm gonna copy that. I'm going to reach across the aisle. I'm gonna try to have people on from the popular, successful political movement, which is maga. That's why he had Charlie Kirk on as the first guest, followed shortly by Steve Bannon. Not even just regular Republicans, but people who are close to Trump, who have their finger on the pulse of maga. That's what I'm gonna do, and it's gonna work for me, and we'll see. It might work, but there is a civil war right now in the Democrat Party. So Newsom has carved out that lane. I'm gonna be the centrist guy. On the other side. You have people like Tim Walls who come out and they say, well, in Tim Walls case, he was doing a political rally with Beto O'Rourke. No better way to set yourself up to win an election than to campaign with a guy who is absolutely expert at losing elections that he's supposed to win. He goes out there and Tim Walls thesis is the reason the Democrats lost is not because they've gone too far to the left, not because they've gone too far to the extremes. No, no. It's because they're not WOKE enough.

Tim Walz (20:30)

Our strength is our diversity. We've been talking about this for years as a country of immigrants. And we let them define the issue on immigration. We let them define the issue on Dni dei, and we let them define what WOKE is. We got ourselves in this mess because we weren't bold enough to stand up and say, you damn right we're proud of these policies. We're gonna put them in and we're gonna execute them.

Michael Knowles (20:56)

Okay, so he says that the Democrats let the Republicans define the issue on Immigration. Define the issue on dei. Define the issue on all of these Woke policy. What is wokeness? I just don't think that's true. The reason people turned against mass migration is not because Republicans define the issue. It's because they recognize that There are now 11 to 16 million foreigners in their country. That's a conservative number. And they heard Joe Biden and the Democrats welcome them in, encourage them to come to the border. And they've seen that those migrants, many of whom have face tattoos and worship Satan and commit murders and rapes, they realize that they're not good for the country. It's not Republicans fault because they just defined an issue. You know, words, words, words. That's all it really comes down to. It's the underlying realities of Democrat policies that turned people against the Democrats. The Republicans defined dei. No, you did. The definition of DEI that you put forward is diversity, equity and inclusion. And what that means is racial and sexual discrimination, notably against white men, but against other people to lesser degrees as well. And Americans don't like that. Americans voted for meritocracy or a colorblind society or any of the other ways that President Trump campaigned on it. You can like that, you can hate that, you can think there are problems with that, but that's what the American people voted for. It's not cuz Republicans define the issue. Republicans define the issue on Wokeness. No, you're the ones who forced the big husky dudes into the girls changing room. We didn't define that issue. It is just a reality that people turned against. And so what does Tim Walls say? Based on his mistaken premise that the Democrats just let Republicans hypnotize people with their rhetoric and propaganda, he's taking the Howard Dean approach. When Howard Dean took over the DNC in the mid 2000s, he said we're not gonna pivot. We've been losing elections. We're not gonna pivot to the center, we're gonna move further to the left. And it actually did work for the Democrats because Bush became unpopular, because the Iraq war became unpopular. I don't know that that's gonna work here. We'll see. I guess if there's a recession, if wars get worse, not better in Ukraine and Gaza, if Trump's policies fail, then in fairness to Tim Wolves, this might work. But I'm pretty skeptical. I'm pretty skeptical the American people voted against specific issues, notably Wokeness, DEI and open borders. It's gonna be really hard to change that. However, I might be probably the only person on the American right who is giving any credence to what Tim Walz is saying here. The circumstances are somewhat similar. You had Bush winning the popular vote as a Republican in 2004. That was the last time that happened until Trump 2024 and Republicans looked really, really popular. And then within two years we were getting completely blown out of the water, in part because of a pivot from the Democrats to the far left. That's what Tim Walz is proposing here. And that's gonna be. That's the debate. The debate is Tim Walz versus Gavin Newsom. Two old white guys. Not very diverse, equitable and inclusive. But there you have it. There's so much more to say first, though. Go to donewithdebt.com There's a lot of talk about government debt. You know our national debt is $35 trillion after four years of inflation. The real crisis is personal debt. It is possible you are working harder than ever and still struggling with credit card debt and overdue bills. That's why you need Done With Debt if you're tired of feeling trapped by debt, the team at Done With Debt offers smart, effective strategies to help you pay off what you owe faster. Break free from the cycle. 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More importantly, my ukulele finally makes an appearance and in it I do a strum that was popularized by George Formby and it looks really, really silly. So anyway, you can go check. Maybe I should react to it. I don't know. I can at least critique the beautiful ukulele playing in it. Now turning from the Democrats to Trump. The latest freak out du jour. NBC News sounding the alarm. Trump won't rule out seeking a third term in the White House, tells NBC News, quote, there are methods for doing so. I'll just read a little bit from the article. Washington. President Trump did not rule out the possibility of seeking a third term in the White House, which is prohibited by the constitution under the 22nd Amendment, saying in an exclusive interview with NBC News that there were methods for doing so and clarifying that he was not joking. A lot of people want me to do it, Trump said in a Sunday morning phone call with NBC News, referring to his allies. But, I mean, I basically tell them we have a long way to go. You know, it's very early in the administration. I'm focused on the current. Trump said. When asked whether he wanted another term, the president responded, I like working. I'm not joking, but I'm not. It is far too early to think about it. I love Trump so much. I love that. This big breaking news, this exclusive interview is that Trump just picks up the phone in the wee small hours and he's like, all right, I'm just gonna call NBC, make him freak out this week. I'm gonna set the news cycle for the week right now. Yeah, that'd be wacky, huh? No, I'm not joking. Why not? I like working. What is this about? Is Trump going to abolish the 22nd Amendment? Probably not. Though it's worth pointing out that Ronald Reagan advocated for that. There are many very serious principled conservatives who think that term limits are a bad idea for the presidency. But is that what Trump's gonna do? I would be surprised. This is about Trump not being a lame duck. This is about the central tactic of Trump in politics, which is unpredictability, which is seeming like a madman. So that when you tell Vladimir Putin that if you invade Ukraine, you're gonna bomb the Kremlin, Putin thinks 95% chance you don't do it, but 5% chance maybe you will do it. And you can't take that chance. Which is why Putin doesn't invade further into Ukraine when Trump is president. That's what this is about. This is about keeping. The Democrats right now are looking at Trump. They're saying, this guy's a lame duck. He's term limited out. He can't possibly run again. And then Trump calls and we small wakes up. Some reporters at NBC News says, yeah, what if I ran for A third term, huh? You can't do that. I don't know. Maybe I can. I don't know. We'll see. Anyway, bye. That's what this is about. And it works. It kind of works because 95% chance Trump would not challenge the 22nd Amendment. 95% chance Trump has served long enough and would maybe like to have a little bit of a retirement at the end of his life, but like, I don't know, 5% chance maybe. And so the libs are on their toes and Trump remains an active president even in a term that from day one should have been a lame duck term. It is just masterful political work. Then even better trolling from Trump. President Trump was asked in the Oval Office the question that defines our decade, the question that most people should be sick of talking about at this point, but it still gets under the skin of Democrats. He was asked, what is a woman? And he gave a better answer than I have heard from virtually any even conservative. Since Democrats seem to struggle answering this question, I wanted to ask you, what is a woman? And why is it important that we understand the difference between men and women?

Donald Trump (29:24)

Women, it's sort of easy to answer for me because a woman is somebody that can have a baby under certain circumstances. She has a quality. A woman is a person who's much smarter than a man. I've always doesn't give a man even a chance of success. And a woman is a person that in many cases has been treated very badly. Because I think that what happens with this crazy, this crazy issue of men being able to play in women's sports is just ridiculous and very unfair to women and very demeaning to women. And that's got to be about a 94%. I read today, it was a 94% issue. And I watched the other day, I watched a congressman, a well known Democrat congressman, fighting for the fact that men should be allowed to compete essentially in women's sports.

Michael Knowles (30:18)

This is a beautiful answer, and it's much better than the answer conservatives give. Well, the liberals say a woman is whatever a woman is. The sort of person who says that he or she is a woman. If you call yourself a woman, you're a woman. That's obviously ridiculous. But then the conservative response is, no, no, no. A woman is someone with two X chromosomes. A woman is an adult female human being. Boom. But that's not even sufficient. Trump's answer is much better than the usual conservative answer, because Trump's answer is a woman. First thing out of his mouth, a woman is a person who can bear a child under certain circumstances, even that under certain circumstances is so beautiful. His answer is a natural law answer. He's saying not that a woman can be reduced to her biology, but that a woman is at least her. Her biology and also her telos, also her purpose. Also, she's the kind of person who can have a child under certain circumstances. So Trump is even acknowledging there are plenty of women who are infertile, whether because of some makeup that has been some aspect of their physical makeup that has been part of them since birth or because of some accident down the road or because they get a little older or whatever. But. But he's saying, in principle, a woman is the sort of person who can bear a child. And then what's the second answer? He goes, a woman's the sort of person who's a lot smarter than men. That's for sure. Now, that answer, this is gonna confuse some people who don't understand pizazz, panache, Riz. Also who don't understand the kind of little jokes that go on between the sexes. Also, someone who doesn't understand chivalry. Trump is not giving a feminist answer. The feminist would. Women are much smarter than men. Trump saying, oh, women, oh, they're so much smarter than men. That's a chivalrous answer. It's not that women are actually smarter than men. In fact, if you look at, I don't know, the one study I think it was, Larry Summers had this study when he was at Harvard, shows that women and men have basically the same median iq, but the smartest people on earth are men. Also, the stupidest people on earth are men, because the bell curve distribution for men is wider than the bell curve distribution for women. But even beyond that, a woman. What Trump is demonstrating with that answer is a woman is the sort of person who is taken care of by men, who is treated gently by men, chivalrously even. And a woman is the sort of person who's been treated very unfairly by liberalism, by leveling feminism, by this ideology that says that by embracing transgenderism, there is not even such a category as woman. That is a robust answer, and it is why. It is why. I've said this for years, and I'm totally right, and my critics are totally wrong, and Trump's critics are totally wrong when they say Trump is stupid. Trump is unsophisticated. Trump doesn't understand political philosophy. Trump doesn't. I say, I don't know. I don't know if he's ever read books on gender theory. I don't know if he's ever read books on anthropology. I don't know how deeply he studied into human nature or the natural law, but he just gave a better answer than basically any conservative has when asked that question. Because to say that a woman is just two X chromosomes or an adult female human being is to make one of the same errors that the liberals make, which led them to force transgenderism on us in the first place. Which is to say to reduce human nature to some partial aspect of what it is. No, no. A woman is at least her body, but she's also what she does. She's also her telos. She's also. She's everything from her chromosomes to the kind of person who wears beautiful dresses and bakes pies. It's all of those things. Guy gets it, man. 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Hometitlelock.com, code knowles250. Okay, little warning. I'm not sure if you're totally aware of it. Global trade as we know it might end in two days is April 2, not April 1. I think Trump was thinking about doing it on April 1, he said. But I don't want anyone to be confused and think it's April Fool's Day and not be unsure of what we're gonna do here. The fact is, though, everyone is unsure of what Trump is going to do here because Trump is promising to implement major tariffs, major tariffs on our global trading partners. And according to reporting widespread reporting, no one really knows what he's gonna do. Like this article from the Daily Mail, those tasked with implementing his agenda admit they're uncertain. Behind closed doors, top administration officials are deeply concerned, with many quietly admitting they are unsure what the president is actually going to do. No one knows what the f is going on. One White House ally close to Trump's inner circle towed told Politico the president has signaled that more than $1 trillion in trade could be affected. But with less than a week to go, even the most basic details, including which countries will be hit at what rates and for which goods remain undecided or constantly shifting. You know, I'm skeptical of media reports, especially about the Trump administration. This one I totally believe. I totally believe it because I was at the White House four days ago or something five days ago, and I spoke with the Secretary of the Treasury. You can catch our interview on the Michael Knowles YouTube channel and elsewhere. Daily Wire Plus X I asked the treasury secretary, I said, what is the top priority for the tariffs? Is it raising revenue? Is it creating manufacturing jobs? Or is it to be a negotiating tool to lower trade barriers with our partners, any of which might be good, but which are in conflict with each other. So which is it? And the treasury secretary gave me a very intelligent, clever answer, which didn't really answer the question. He restated the question and then he said, we'll find out on April 2nd. You know, it's the president's decision to make. We will find out on April 2nd. So I totally believe it. I pay very close attention to the Trump administration. I don't know. I don't know what he's gonna do because I don't even really know what his top priority for the tariffs are. He's floated all of the different desirable outcomes that could come from tariffs, but he hasn't honed in on one in particular. So I totally believe this report. Now the libs are reporting this and they're saying, this is chaos. This is terrible. This is a horrible idea. See, this is why Trump shouldn't be president. I'm just marveling at the guys consistency on his chief political strength, which is unpredictability. There are top administration officials today who do not know what Trump is going to do in two days that could affect $1 trillion worth of trade. You could look at that and say that's a sign of chaos. That's crazy. That's a terrible idea. Or you could look at it as Trump has bragged for years now as a sign of political strength. This guy has everyone on their toes. Now, if I had to guess, if I were a gambling man, and I were gambling not with a trillion dollars worth of trade, but with a little bit of my own money, I think this is part of a negotiation to reduce trade barriers overseas. That would be my guess, but I don't know for sure. I guess we'll have to see. Now, speaking of Trump and global trade, President Trump did just address the Houthi bombing. Boys chat. That's a little bit of a tease. We might have to get to that later because my friend Lila Rose is coming on first. Though America's on the comeback. The fight for truth is far from over. 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Well, actually the dismantling of the Department of Education. The whole purpose of that is to shift education back to the states. At the state level you are seeing lots of good positive action being taken. It's not just getting rid of bad Democrat regulations. It's not just trying to dig through all the bureaucracy and the ugly curriculum that poison kids minds. But it's actually now implementing good things that will actually edify students. Being led in part by my friend Lila Rose. You know Lila, she is the head of Live Action, one of the most prominent pro life voices in America and is the driving force behind the Baby Olivia prenatal education bill which puts pro life content into public schools. It's already in my state of Tennessee. It's already in North Dakota and it just passed into its third state of Idaho. Lila, thank you for coming on the show.

Lila Rose (41:44)

Thanks for having me, Michael, good to see you.

Michael Knowles (41:47)

So Lila, it's always wonderful to see you. The libs are going to say that this is an outrageous incursion. This probably violates the separation of church and state because all you pro lifers are crazy religious people. And they're gonna say that this is putting propaganda in schools to push a particular view of sex and sexual education and it's unconstitutional. What's your response?

Lila Rose (42:15)

I mean they have all said this and it's wild because baby Olivia is this medically accurate. So it's created with scientists, with obgyns, with medical doctors. It's this medically accurate, lifelike. So it's been animated by world class animators. Depiction of life from the beginning, you know, from fertilization. That's when science says a human, new individual, human comes into existence until birth. So when you see, we've seen the backlash over the last year, people so upset on the left that there's now going to be science based education about human development for young people, which is what they deserve in science class, biology class, sex ed class, and they're upset about it. It really makes you wonder who's on the side of science now. Clearly not the far left when it comes to anything that shows the humanity of the baby. And it was so crazy, Michael, because there's this one particular reporter, and I think it was in your great state of Tennessee who was really mad about baby Olivia being put in the public schools and education of human development being put in the public schools. And they said this is humanizing the baby. This is too humanizing of the fetus or whatever. And it's like, well, yeah, they're human. I think this is how we all started our life as humans in our mother's womb. So we're excited. It's a new dawn for science based education for young people. And I think there's no better way to show the beauty of the baby in the womb than actually getting to look at what this baby looks like as they're developing.

Michael Knowles (43:41)

There's something very funny obviously about the reporter saying, hey, the more you show us what is happening biologically in the womb, the more the baby appears to be humanized. And you say, well, correct, it's a human, that's why. But, but even beyond the science angle, which is always, that's always the low ground that the libs want to talk about. Though their scientific theories are pretty crazy, like the Sun Monster destroying the world and boys becoming girls or whatever, they still, they ground all of their arguments in science and they say, we need to get your morality out of the classroom. We need to get your religious kind of propaganda out of the classroom. And I guess my answer to that is why, you know, I took sex ed class in my New York public school and I was told that we should use condoms. I was told that people should embrace various aberrant sexual behaviors. That's a moral teaching. It's an immoral teaching, I guess, but it's teaching about morality, about ethics. It has a religious underpinning, albeit one that is irreligious or comes from a false religion. So all of that stuff is already in schools. What's the problem with coming in and saying, okay, well, if you're already teaching morality, you're already teaching ethics, you already have a religious foundation. We're just gonna teach a more accurate one, a truer one that's more conducive to human flourishing. What are they gonna say to that?

Lila Rose (45:06)

Yeah, I mean, listen, it's an incoherent ideology that the culture of death, the kind of pro abortion, pro sexual experimentation, you know, sex doesn't belong in marriage. It really, as long as there's consent, have as much sex or whatever kind of sex you want. That's not a really very coherent worldview, but it is a worldview and it does have its own moral code which is violates the truth about where how human beings should live together in harmony together in a society. We know that when it comes to sex, the best order for sex is in a loving marriage where two people are committed to each other for life. But this Baby Olivia legislation, they're not even doing that this isn't even promoting chastity overtly or any kind of specific moral code. It's literally, Michael, all it is is watching content that shows medically accurate depictions of human life and learning about the markers of human development. That is all that this legislation and other bills like it do. It doesn't even go that extra step of inferring now, oh, it's a human life, so it has human rights. We shouldn't kill babies. Like, that's not even part of the overt education. It's just, this is a human life. And that is what is causing so much outrage by some folks on the left. Although I will say I am encouraged. This bill that just passed in Idaho that is based on baby Olivia, there was. There were Democrats that voted for it. So there are some sane people left, you know, on both sides of the aisle here. But yeah, I mean, the reality is the moral order, which shows that, you know, human beings are different than the rest of the animal kingdom. Sex has a particular purpose. That's procreation and unity brings two people together. All of this is. It's true. And yeah, I agree, that should absolutely be taught in the public school system. I mean, it's the truth.

Michael Knowles (46:47)

You know what's so fascinating to me about the left wing pushback on this legislation, which, as you say, is so modest. I mean, it's such just saying, hey, while you're talking about pregnancy, we're gonna show you what it really looks like. That's all it says, that's all. But the left wing pushback, it seems to me, belies a lack of confidence in a central dogma of modernity and liberalism, which is the distinction between is and ought. You know, the notion that we cannot possibly observe things in the world and then come to moral conclusions about them for how we ought to behave. You know, there are two human beings. They ought to live in society, they ought to get married, they ought to have children. That's just something that comes from their human nature. Modernity says, nah, nah, we're all just kind of big bags of stuff and you can't ever come to any conclusions. Just do whatever you want, man. If it feels good, do it. And don't yuck my. And that's been a central dogma of liberalism. But of course, they don't really believe it is. They have all sorts of moral prescriptions. And I think the way that they come to their false moral prescriptions is by lying about how things really are. So the moral prescription that if a woman becomes pregnant, but she doesn't want to take care of her baby. She should just murder her baby. The way that they persuade people of that which is so wrong and immoral is by lying and saying, oh, it's not really a baby. It's a clump of cells. It's sort of like a parasite. It's no big deal. You're not really killing anything. So it's all lies about what is. In order to come to a wrong ought conclusion. If you're so afraid that seeing the true nature of things is gonna dissuade people from following your prescriptions, maybe that means your prescriptions are wrong.

Lila Rose (48:35)

Well, it's like no kid is born supporting abortion, right? You ask any child about a pregnancy, like they have a little sibling coming to. And you know, I have three kids. I know you have three. And they're so excited, the older children, that mama is pregnant and there's gonna be a baby. I mean, any child. You ask them about the idea of pregnancy or you tell them about the idea of pregnancy. They are so it's like Christmas morning for them. So this idea that as a child gets older, they need to become more pro abortion because the left is like, well, we gotta do something with these kids that are also naturally pro life and excited about life. We have to sort of derange their thinking. In order to do that, they need to overt put these overt political ideologies in the classroom. And that's what effectively has been happening. I mean, that is the current state of sexual education. Planned Parenthood rules the biggest pro abortion group in the country right now. They rule sex education in the classroom. So keep that context in mind here. When we have Baby Olivia legislation going through. Planned Parenthood is in most classrooms today that are public, that are public schools, and they're pushing this postmodern woke ideology around sex and life that is brainwashing a generation of students. So this is one effort to push back against that craziness.

Michael Knowles (49:49)

Well, I think it's beautiful. I think the success here is beautiful. The Baby Olivia project itself is really quite beautiful. To show people what's going on in the womb. A campaign of live action that I strongly encourage you all to go and check out. But. But three states, I say that's a very good start. And I look forward to the other 47 following soon. Who knows, if we get Canada in Greenland, then another 49.

Lila Rose (50:12)

There's 19 states considering this year, so hopefully we'll end strong this year. We'll see where it all lands. But there's some Democrats we've gotta persuade, but thankfully there have been a few that are persuadable. So we'll see where it lands.

Michael Knowles (50:23)

I love it. Lila Rose. Go check out all of Lila Rose's shows and speeches and go to live action and give your money to Lyla Rose.

Lila Rose (50:29)

Thank you, Mike.

Michael Knowles (50:30)

And support all of this so that we get it in all by the time Trump is done. I don't know, 59, 65 states. We'll see what we got. Thank you, Lila. Thank you to all of you.

Lila Rose (50:39)

Thank you very much.

Michael Knowles (50:40)

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