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See kay.com exclusions for details. Our best deal of the year is live right now. DailyWire + annual memberships 50% off. Stop waiting. Go to DailyWire.com subscribe to join now the House is voted 4:27 to 1 to release the Epstein files. In this divided political environment, an all but unanimous vote from the House of Representatives is an amazing testament to the persistence of interest in this issue. As of last week, the President himself was calling for the release of the files. Now both the legislature and the Executive have put their stamp of approval on it. Which means, by the way, for those of you who do not understand how Washington works, that you will never, ever, ever, under any circumstances, find out anything more than you currently know about what Jeffrey Epstein was actually up to. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles. Welcome back to the show. There's a ton more I want to get to. Pope Leo is clarifying his views on immigration. It's really, really important. 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Okay, before we get into anything, just real quick, the story dominating all the headlines on the left, on the right, and the establishment media in the new media, so called the Epstein files. The House has just voted unanimously almost to release the Epstein files. Now, one guy voted against it. So of course you look at that 427 1. On an issue that has been characterized as on the one side. If you're in favor of release, it means that you want transparency and democracy and accountability. If you oppose release, it means you support pedophile reptile people mobbed up with the CIA and Mossad, blackmailing our entire government. That's basically how this has been presented to the world. And so you gotta ask, well, who's the guy who votes no on that? To me, when all the Democrats and all the Republicans agree on something and there's one guy who says no, my gut tells me that guy probably has a point. When all the Republicans and all the Democrats in Washington agree on something, I'm skeptical of that thing. So the person is Representative Clay Higgins. And here's his argument. Here's why he doesn't want the Epstein files released. He says, I've been a principled no on this bill from the beginning. What was wrong with the bill three months ago is still wrong today. It abandons 250 years of criminal justice procedure in America as written. This bill reveals and injures thousands of innocent people, witnesses, people who provided alibis, family members, et cetera. If enacted in its current form, this type of broad reveal of criminal investigative files released to a rabid media will absolutely result in innocent people being hurt. Not by my vote. The Oversight Committee is conducting a thorough investigation that's already released well over 60,000 pages of documents from the Epstein case. That effort will continue in a manner that provides all due protections for innocent Americans. If the Senate amends the bill to properly address the privacy of victims and other Americans who are named but not criminally implicated, then I will vote for that bill when it comes back to the House. Okay. Totally reasonable. I know. Put me against the mob here. I think that's totally reasonable. In fact, I think the whole framing of the Epstein files thing is kind of silly. Look, I'm very curious about Epstein. I don't believe the official story of how he died. I don't believe the official story of how he operated. I suspect he was in some way connected to intelligence. I want to know why that is. And we'll get to why people care so much about that. And obviously, you want some justice for the victims. All those things are true. But the whole idea of the Epstein files being kept under lock and key. First of all, that's obviously not true, because we keep seeing the Epstein files. They keep leaking. Democrats keep posting them, or Republicans, alternately, keep posting them. And we've read a lot of them. We have over 60,000 pages of them. What does that even mean, to release? It means release more of the Epstein files, take away some of the redactions, even release accusations that were later retracted. Even. What does it mean exactly? Here is Mike Johnson's take on it. All right. Number five, national security concerns. Okay. The discharge requires the Attorney General to release within 30 days, quote, classified information to the maximum extent possible. This ignores the principle that declassification should always rest and always has rested with the agency that originated the intelligence. Why? So that they can protect their critical sources and methods. It is incredibly dangerous to demand that officials or employees of the DOJ declassify materials that originated in other agencies and intelligence agencies. Okay, so here we have effectively an admission that Epstein was involved in intelligence, which I think everybody at this point should know. Anyone who's paid two seconds of attention to the Epstein case should know, saying, it's irresponsible to just release all of the files because we should only be releasing intelligence. Or rather, the origination of releasing that intelligence should come from the agencies that were involved. In other words, the agencies were involved. Now, it doesn't mean that Epstein was Jason Bourne or James Bond. It means that. It could mean that. Or it could mean that he was operating, he was doing whatever he was doing, and then the intelligence agencies came in and squeezed him, and he informed for them, or he was some Kind of asset for them or in some way he worked with them. In any case, it is now certainly beyond a shadow of a doubt Epstein was involved in some way with intelligence. Over the years we've seen hints of this. Reportedly Alex Acosta, U.S. attorney in the Epstein case, who then was up for Labor Secretary under Trump, won. He reportedly said when he was explaining his role in the Epstein case that he was told to lay off because Epstein belonged to intelligence. We know the connection of the madam of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father worked for Israeli intelligence and probably MI6 and probably the KGB. And it seemed like he was a double or triple agent too. So this is it. This is, I guess my frustration with the Epstein thing is I have all the same questions everybody else does. But it's so disingenuous. Cuz the way that the Epstein case is being presented now today is it's being presented by Democrats as a Trump scandal. The Epstein issue long predates Trump's entry into politics. And for most of the time it was Republicans, including Trump, who were pushing for more transparency on Epstein because it was a Bill Clinton scandal, because it was a Democrat scandal. And now each party says what's a scandal for the other party? But at bottom, what everyone is pretending is that the reason to release the Epstein files, the reason to get to the bottom of the Epstein case, is justice for the prostitutes, including in some cases underage prostitutes, girls are being trafficked by Epstein. But that's what it's supposedly about. And that's not what it's about, that's part of it. Obviously you want justice for all sorts of victims. That's not why people care. That has almost nothing to do with why people care. The reason people care primarily about the Epstein case is because they want to know how corrupt our government is, how compromised our government is, who's pulling the strings, who's calling the shots? That's why people care. People don't really care for some perp, some rich guy who went to Epstein's island who slept with a girl, be she 21 or so, 17. Worse, obviously if she's underage, they don't want him to be brought to justice. That's not primarily it. Like, sure, I guess he should. But what this is about is was American intelligence involved in an underage prostitution ring? Potentially an underage black male prostitution ring. And even more so, was foreign intelligence involved? And the big accusation is that Epstein was mobbed up with the Mossad with some kind of Israeli intelligence. Obviously he was friends with Ehud Barak for former Prime Minister of Israel. In some ways, though, the Barak relationship almost undermines the Israeli intelligence angle because Epstein was funding Barak and Barak is a left wing Israeli politician, so he's out of favor with the current Israeli government. And anyway, it's sort of complicated. But regardless, that's why people care. That's what they want to know. They don't want a purplist primarily, I don't think, like I'm sure they'd take it, but they don't want even exactly want justice for the victims, though that would be good too. The main driver of interest in the Epstein case is what intelligence agencies was he mobbed up with, to what degree was he mobbed up with them, what was the nature of his infrastructure, what was the nature of his operation, and who's pulling the strings in the American government. That's what people care about. And you're not going to get the answers to any of those things. All of this, the files are gonna be released, the black book, the names of the clients and the Johns. It is all a distraction. You are simply not going to get to the heart of it. That's really my frustration here. And you might upend regular prosecutorial procedure in the meantime. For nothing, for a sideshow. Okay, now a little bit more to say on Epstein and then much more to say on Zoran Mamdani in New York, the Pope in Rome and a transvestite sort of right winger converting to Christianity. First though, I want to tell you about Lumen. Go to Lumen. Me, Knowles. You know what? 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One thing we're finding out is that as the Democrats are claiming, this is a big Trump scandal and we're gonna get to the bottom of it. And can you believe Trump had a relationship with Epstein? We're finding out that a Democrat congressman, Stacey Plaskett, was texting Jeffrey Epstein trying to get good questions to grill Trump's associates on during a congressional hearing. Democrats colluding with Jeffrey Epstein himself to try to get Trump. This was first reported by the Washington Post. It was a 2019 House Oversight Committee hearing with Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen. So we're told it's a big scandal that Trump palled around with Jeffrey Epstein 25 years ago. But meanwhile, you've got Democrats saying, like, hey, Jeff, buddy, what's going on? Give me some good stuff that I can slam Trump's lawyer with. Here is how Jamie Raskin, Democrat member of the House, defended his colleague for, you know, I don't know, sitting up late at night, kicking her feet up on the bed, saying, hey, Jeffrey, you up? What's going on? Now they want to take a former United States prosecutor, the representative of the people of the Virgin Islands, and without even going to the Ethics Committee, much less a court, they want to arraign her on some charges based on a newspaper article that she did something lawful, however ill advised it may have been. She took a phone call from one of her constituents, one of her constituents. Is that what we're calling him now? Yes. Hey, did you hear the latest about Jeffrey Epstein? Jeffrey Epstein? You're talking about that famous constituent? Oh, yes, yes. Yeah, yeah, Jeffrey, the constituent, Jeffrey Epstein. Yes, yes, of course. Okay. Such hacks. They ask Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat leader in the House, hey, isn't it weird that one of your members, you know, you're all talking about how this guy's like the devil incarnate and he was mobbed up with Trump, and yet you guys are on a texting basis during congressional hearings.
