Ep. 1870 - Somalis Built America?

Summary

The Michael Knowles Show

Episode 1870 – “Somalis Built America?”

Date: December 8, 2025
Host: Michael Knowles
Podcast Network: The Daily Wire

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Michael Knowles tackles recent controversies and narratives surrounding immigration, assimilation, and American identity—particularly the claim by Democrat Rep. Pramila Jayapal that immigrants, including Somalis, “built America.” He unpacks recent political commentary on race, media framing of criminal acts, the assimilation of Somali immigrants, and Donald Trump’s new stance on immigration. Knowles weaves these themes together to critique progressive narratives about America’s history, national identity, and the impacts of mass migration.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Media Narratives and Identity Politics

(01:26–07:59)

• The “White” Pipe Bomber Story:

  • CNN’s Framing: Knowles calls out Jake Tapper and CNN for referring to a black suspect in the January 6th pipe bomb case as a “white man.” He compares this to the media’s characterization of George Zimmerman (Trayvon Martin case) as “white Hispanic.”
  • Quote: “White in their parlance just means ‘bad’... So in that way, I guess Jake Tapper is right. The guy who planted the January 6th pipe bombs, he might be black as the heart of the Congo, but because he did something bad, he is white.” (06:15)
  • Analysis: Knowles notes that the media selectively applies identity labels in ways that fit preferred narratives about race and criminality.

• Surprise Over Race of a Suspect:

  • Response to a CNN panelist’s comment expressing surprise that the bomber was black, with Knowles agreeing that such domestic terrorist acts are statistically more often perpetrated by white leftists.
  • Quote: “The stereotypical person who commits this crime is a white leftist, like the Weather Underground.” (08:43)

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2. Assimilation and Somali Immigration

(10:30–13:33, 18:33–20:44, 22:15–23:33)

• Ilhan Omar’s Response on Assimilation:

  • CBS Face the Nation segment, Omar equates calls for Somali assimilation to “Nazism.”
  • Quote (Ilhan Omar): “The way the Nazis described Jewish people in Germany. Somali we are in this country as Americans. We are citizens. We are productive part of this nation, and we will continue to be.” (11:05–11:22)
  • Knowles’ Take: He criticizes Omar for evading the core question of whether Somalis assimilate and argues that as a group, “they’re not productive; they’re counterproductive to America because they defraud our welfare system to the tune of a billion dollars.” (11:22)

• Viral Video: Minneapolis Mayor and Somali Food:

  • Knowles describes Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry uncomfortably eating Somali food in a perceived bid to court Somali voters.
  • Quote: “It’s my absolute favorite video going around the Internet right now... he tries to babble out a few words of Star Wars language every now and again to suck up to the Somalis.” (12:53)
  • Knowles interprets this as symbolic of the broader issues of non-assimilation and demographic change.

• Critique of Arguments for Mass Immigration:

  • Debunks arguments that immigrants don’t use welfare or commit crimes, and mocks the “but the food is good!” justification, insisting these points are irrelevant or factually inaccurate.
  • Quote: “No one likes Somali food. Nobody likes it. So even that argument... we take that away.” (22:15)

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3. Shifting Conservative and Trumpian Immigration Policy

(23:33–32:02)

• Trump’s Quiet Policy Shift:

  • Trump endorses a block of text calling for a return to restrictive, assimilation-focused immigration policies reminiscent of the 1924 Immigration Act.
  • Quote: “Trump just endorsed that view. That is radical. Now, I think that's where most people are.” (31:53)
  • Knowles breaks down three immigration positions:
    1. Liberal (more legal/illegal immigration)
    2. Procedural conservative (“legal, not illegal”)
    3. Restrictionist (Knowles’ and now Trump’s position: reduce all immigration)

• Historical Framing:

  • Knowles insists that immigration policy should serve the country's actual needs and capacity to assimilate newcomers, not as an open-ended moral obligation.

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4. “Immigrants Built America” – A Progressive Myth?

(32:02–39:38)

• Jayapal’s Claim Examined:

  • Pramila Jayapal’s statement that Somalis (arrived mostly post-1990s) “built America” is used as an entry point to critique the generalized notion that America is a “nation of immigrants.”
  • Quote: “Somalis got here in the 1990s... and they have never built anything in America. They've only taken from America as a group... The country was obviously not built by them.” (33:37)

• Historical Perspective:

  • Knowles contrasts the contributions of early settlers and foundational generations with recent immigrant groups, pointing to the collapsing social solidarity, drop in birth rates, and other negative metrics since the late 1960s wave of immigration.

• Slavery and Building America:

  • Challenges the claim that slaves “built America,” arguing that foundational institutions and culture come from “great men whose names you know—who had great thoughts and great visions.” (38:44)

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5. Demographic Change, National Identity, and NATO

(42:40–48:08)

• Europe and "Making Europe White Again":

  • The National Security Strategy’s observation of declining European majorities in NATO countries and Shashank Joshi's (The Economist) mockery of this concern.
  • Quote: “Shouldn't Europe be white? What we mean by white is European. They're synonymous.” (45:54)
  • Knowles argues preserving the demographic core is both legitimate and essential to national and civilizational identity.

• Should America Remain “White”?

  • He provocatively asks whether it would be “bad” if whites disappeared from America, highlights the legitimacy of ethnic quotas, and argues that open demographic transformation is a deliberate policy and should be debated.

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6. Broader Cultural Commentary

(48:08–54:15)

• Sydney Sweeney, “Jeans Ad,” and Cultural Shifts:

  • Discusses the controversy over actress Sydney Sweeney’s Wrangler jeans ad, her (forced) distancing from perceived right-wing associations, and the broader context of Hollywood’s declining power.
  • Quote: “The liberals won’t give you your hit movies back. There are no hit movies anymore. Don’t fall for it, Sidney.” (54:15)

• Conclusion: The left’s attempts to control culture and narrative are failing, as evidenced by the lack of cultural “hits”; Knowles urges holding firm against progressive pressure.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Immigration Narrative Satire:
  “[The] United States of America was actually secretly built by Somalis who came here in the 1990s.” – Michael Knowles (01:26)

• On Assimilation and Nazis:
  “She came to the conclusion that asking Somalis to assimilate to American culture is Nazism.” – Michael Knowles, on Ilhan Omar (09:59)

• Media Framing Racial Crime:
  “He might be black as the heart of the Congo, but because he did something bad... he is white. He has to be white.” – Michael Knowles (06:15)

• On the Viral Somali Food Video:
  “It’s my absolute favorite video... Jacob Fry, trying desperately to choke down disgusting Somali food.” (12:53)

• Historical Immigration:
  “America must be kept American. For this purpose, it is now necessary to enact a policy of restricted immigration.” – Trump-endorsed block quote (28:12)

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Key Timestamps

• 01:26: Opening—satirical summary of progressive immigration lessons
• 05:00: Media racial framing and Jake Tapper segment
• 10:30: Ilhan Omar on assimilation and American identity
• 12:53: Mayor Fry, Minnneapolis, and Somali food viral video
• 18:33: Mass migration, assimilation challenges, and “the food argument”
• 23:33: Trump’s new, more restrictionist immigration stance
• 32:02: The myth that “immigrants built America”
• 42:40: Demographic change, NATO, and the integrity of Europe’s identity
• 48:08: "Would it be bad if there were no white people left in America?"
• 50:33: Sydney Sweeney's "jeans ad" controversy and Hollywood's decline

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Tone and Style

Michael Knowles’ tone is wry, polemical, and unapologetically conservative. He moves fluidly between satire, historical analysis, and contemporary critique, often using sarcasm and dark humor to skewer progressive policymakers and media narratives.

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For Listeners New to This Episode

This episode is a deep dive into current debates over immigration and national identity, critically examining left-wing and liberal narratives about who “built” America, the role of assimilation, and the legitimacy of pursuing demographic stability. It’s filled with biting critique, pop culture references, and Knowles’ trademark editorializing. Perfect for those interested in the intersection of politics, culture, and American historical narrative from a right-leaning perspective.

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A lot of surprising lessons have emerged from the left over the past few days. Get your pencils out. Write these down. They're a little bit counterintuitive. It turns out that our 400-year-old country, the United States of America, was actually secretly built by Somalis who came here in the 1990s. I learned that one from Democrat Congress lady Pramila Jayapal. It is apparently racist to think that Europe should be populated by Europeans. You're not allowed to think that. I learned that one from the Economist magazine. And then finally, a lesson from Jake Tapper. The very, very black man arrested for planting the January 6th pipe bombs is actually secretly, deep down, a white guy. I'm Michael Knowles. This is the Michael Knowles Show.

Welcome back to the show. The apotheosis of this conversation about immigration, about identity, about sovereignty, specifically about Somalis, comes in the form of a video of Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry trying desperately to choke down disgusting Somali food. It's my favorite video on the whole Internet right now. We'll get to that in a moment. First, I wanna tell you about Everyday dose. Go to everydaydose.com knowles k n o W L E S It is Advent. It's not Christmas yet, it's Advent. People are very busy. You're traveling. You have family coming in, you get in the presents you're preparing, the meal you're working. I think you're still trying to work. Maybe you're juggling the kids. It's already a struggle making it through the modern world every other time of the year. Now it's so what are you doing? Are you adding that third cup of coffee? Maybe you're adding that fourth cup of coffee. Maybe you're doing. You pop in those little pouches trying to get a little energy. Folks, drop it. I have your answer. This is where Everyday Dose comes in. Everyday Dose is Coffee plus benefits. They combine high quality coffee with powerful ingredients like lion's mane, chaga, collagen, protein and nootropics to fuel your brain, boost your focus and give you clean sustained energy all day long. Tastes just like coffee without the downside. No crash, no jitters, just clean sustained energy. I love this stuff. Right now you can get 61% off your first coffee plus starter kit, a free A2 probiotic creamer with over 100 bucks in free gifts by going to everydaydose.com knowles or entering Knowles Knes at checkout. That's everydaydose.com knowleskanawlas for 61% off your first order at everyday dose is also available at your local target. Don't believe your lying eyes. The man who you thought was a black man arrested after five years for planting the pipe bombs in front of the DNC and the RNC on January 6th. That man, according to Jake Tapper, is actually secretly white. Capitol attack. Brian Cole Jr. A 30 year old white man from the D.C. suburbs is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction by means of explosions. CNN observed local and federal law enforcement outside his home. There he is. There's the guy. Now the picture, for those of you watching the picture of the smiling, very, very obviously phenotypically black man.

That picture that's there was not actually being shown by cnn. CNN just wanted its viewers to believe what Jake Tapper was saying, which is that he was a white guy. This does remind me of the killing of Trayvon Martin. Trayvon Martin, this young black guy who was killed in an altercation that became very controversial with this guy George Zimmerman. And it was reported everywhere, not just by Jake Tapper, not just on cnn, but everywhere in the liberal media. I think it was, what was this? 2012? It was reported that George Zimmerman, the killer of Trayvon Martin, was a white guy. And then days, weeks later, pictures of George Zimmerman emerged and George Zimmerman was the most Hispanic looking guy you've ever Seen in your entire life. Just a big giant cholo looking guy and doesn't look really even slightly white. Not nary an octoroon white. Was George Zimmerman or at least did he look. He was so obviously Hispanic. And what did all of the establishment media do? They said, well, he's a white Hispanic. A white Hispanic. Hold on, these are different groups. It's like a white black. I guess you can be biracial, but you told me he was a white guy. He's obviously a Hispanic guy. Now you're saying, well, we weren't wrong, he's a white Hispanic.

The dark Hispanics are the ones that are really good and pay their taxes and are wonderful and unobjectionable. But the moment a Hispanic commits a crime, or not even a crime, even just commits a controversial killing, then he becomes white. This white in their parlance just means bad. It's just a bad guy. So in that way, I guess Jake Dapper is right. The guy who planted the January 6th pipe bombs, he might be black as the heart of the Congo, but because he did something bad, something that's inconvenient for the liberal order, he is white. He is, in fact he has to be white. Cuz white people have to do the bad stuff and non white people have to do the good stuff. People were surprised by this. A CNN panelist sounded off, said that a lot, not just her, but a lot of people were shocked that the January 6th pipe bomber was a black guy. They should believe what he says.

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Well, maybe he put a bomb at the DNC because he believed the Democrats stole the election because Republicans and conspiracy theorists pushed that. And he put the bomb at the RNC because the vice president who was about to be sworn in was going to ride by.

That area. There are many scenarios that the prosecution will have to play out this case. I'm just going to. I'm going to say the thing out loud that I think everyone is not saying and is actually surprised and why I think Jeanine Pirro is actually saying it. I think the fact that this man is a black man is surprising to people. I think people thought this was going to be a white man that did this. They were going to be able to say he was a part of the progressive left. And the fact that as a black man, that is saying I too was susceptible to conspiracy theorists, that the president and conservative podcasts were pushing that this election was stolen and is a fact that they were not expecting and now everyone is on their heels and they're trying to spin it And I think that might be also why you think let's not believe his actual story right now.

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He's trying to get both of them. I mean, okay, what I'm supposed to say now, what I, a right wing political commentator, am supposed to say, a podcaster, what I'm supposed to say is, this is horribly racist of this woman. This is horribly racist. She assumed it would be a white guy and then it was a black. What a racist woman. That's what I'm supposed to say. And if I were appealing to race hustling, what I'm supposed to say is, what are you talking about? Black guys are way more violent than white guys. Of course it was a black guy. But can I say something without everybody getting mad? I actually agree with that lady. And you do too. You do too. And it makes sense that you do too. We were all kind of surprised it was a black guy. Allegedly a black guy. I think we were all surprised because this is the sort of crime that that is usually committed by a white guy. It's the sort of crime that is usually committed by a white leftist. So she there, she's trying to spin it all up. She's trying to make him seem like he's a right winger now. He might be. We don't know really very much about him. We do know that his family is involved in very left wing businesses opposing the Trump administration. We do know that he committed an act of anarchist terrorism, which is overwhelmingly associated with the left. We do. So I have some ideas, however, she's trying to spin it and say, no, no, this isn't the stereotypical person who commits this crime. And I guess that's true. The stereotypical person who commits this crime is a white leftist, like the Weather Underground. The stereotypical person who commits this crime is the antifa guy who threw an explosive at my event at University of Pittsburgh, who's in federal prison right now. It's true. It's not that white people are violent and black people are not violent. Obviously, if you just look at crime statistics, black guys are much more likely to commit violent crime, but it's usually not this kind of violent crime. The real kind of crazy domestic terrorism stuff is more likely to be white guys, specifically white leftists. So it's weird. Okay, I'm gonna get, like, credit where credit's due. Okay, she makes a good point. I was surprised as well. Can I say that now? Everyone's gonna be mad now. Speaking of black men, Ilhan Omar just went on CBS Face the Nation and she was asked about the White House's comments that the Somalis don't really assimilate and they should assimilate. And she came to the conclusion that asking Somalis to assimilate to American culture is Nazism.

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I want to ask you something else that the architect of the President's immigration policy, Stephen Miller, said on Thanksgiving Day. He posted no magic. Transformation occurs when failed states cross borders at scale. Migrants and their descendants recreate the conditions and terrors of their broken homelands. What do you make of this argument of failure to assimilate and sort of ruining America? How do you understand this? I mean, when I think about Stephen Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric, it reminds me, yes, it reminds me of.

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We are citizens. We are productive.

Part of this nation, and we will continue to be.

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So the thing I notice about her answer is even beyond the ridiculous claims, Stephen Miller is a Nazi, this right wing Jew in the Trump administration who just wants to deport criminals, he's a Nazi for doing that. Beyond the Somalis, they contribute to America. They don't. They're net takers. They're not productive. They're counterproductive to America because they defraud our, they defraud our welfare system to the tune of a billion dollars. And then when they're not defrauding the welfare system, they're just using the welfare system in a, I guess, legitimate way, but they're still taking resources from the country. Beyond those two things, the most notable part about her answer is she never actually refutes Miller's point. Miller's point is that the Somalis don't assimilate. That's what he's saying. She goes, he is a Nazi and Somalis are great and they're productive and they add to the economy, but do they assimilate? Do they assimilate? Ilhan, even Ilhan Omar doesn't totally assimilate. She dresses differently than Americans do.

Actually, in some ways, the way she dresses is more tasteful than the way that some Americans. I'm not even knocking it on the substance. I'm just pointing out they don't assimilate. The Somalis don't assimilate. And it's not just them. We don't just beat up on the Somalis. A lot of immigrant groups don't assimilate. And that's bad. And part of the proof that that's bad is that the Democrats don't even answer the question. Cuz The Democrats don't want them to assimilate either. And at the very least, they know that they do not.

Here's a little bit more proof. And it's my absolute favorite video going around the Internet right now. This is Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, who has to suck up to the Somalis because they're the people who elect him because they conquered Minneapolis. So Jacob Fry, he goes out there, he tries to babble out a few words of Star wars language every now and again to suck up to the Somalis. He'll stand there as the Somali Minneapolis police official starts saying that they're gonna fight the Trump administration. Federal law enforcement, ice. But he says it like.

You know, and then Jacob Fry doesn't understand a lick of this, but he's just kind of nodding along. Yes, oh, yes, we love whatever you're saying in Somalian. We totally agree. Yes, go live long and prosper. He said, that's not even the right. That's not even the right one. That. Anyway, so he goes, he has dinner at some Somali restaurant. And he's sitting there eating out of paper plates and whatever kind of flatware they've assembled thrown together in the Somali restaurant. He's sitting next to some Somali guy and he puts on one of the least persuasive performances I've ever seen. Before we get to that, before we get to the food that that man found obviously repulsive, I want to tell you about good, delicious American food from Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com, use promo code Knowles. This episode is sponsored by Good Ranchers. You know what I'm looking forward to most this Christmas season? It's not watching my kids faces light up underneath the tree. It's not the spirit of penitential reverence and anticipation as we await the commemoration of our Lord's birth. And we look ahead to the second coming. Okay, no, those. Actually, they might be. But you know what's right underneath that delicious, fat, tasty, good rancher steak. Right now you can give a Good Ranchers gift box to the people you care about. Because when you give Good Ranchers, you're not just sending premium, 100% American raised meat. You're giving someone a reason to gather, to slow down, to get together, share a meal. That means something. I hosted my family reunion over the weekend, and maybe I'm telling tales out of school. My Uncle Bud comes up to me, he was at my house, he goes, michael, I gotta know, is the Good Ranchers? I wanna do a freezer check. Do you really have I open it up, of course, my freezer is filled with good ranchers. I said, listen, I would not lie to you. It's true. You know, I like some products more than others. Said I freaking love you need to get good ranchers right now. High quality beef, chicken, pork, seafood, all sourced from American farms. Gifting is easy. Pick a box, add a note, schedule a delivery. I love it right now. Spend less time prepping meals, more time with the people you love. Goodranchers.com, promo code knowles. Get 40 bucks off your first order when you subscribe. Get free premium cuts, chicken thighs, Wagyu burgers, which are unbelievable. Bacon, every order for life. Goodranchers.com, code knowles. 40 bucks off, plus free meat for life. Goodranchers dot com let's get back to the table. Without further ado, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, trying to choke down whatever is exactly meant by the phrase Somali food.

It's there. He's got one bite in his mouth. He's got the spoon. And the tell.

That this is gross is, well, one. He looks like he's about to retch. He's gonna toss his cookies or whatever. The Somali. I don't think Somalis make cookies, but whatever he's eating, he's gonna toss it. And he's sitting there and he's got this spoon.

And then he just uses his spoon like he's a little toddler who doesn't want to eat his vegetables. He's using a spoon to just move the food around in the bowl.

He never once takes another bite. But he's. Man. The less active his mouth is at taking another bite, the more active his spoon is. He's moving around.

He does the okay sign.

Oh, Ahmed. There's this guy sitting next to him just grinning ear to ear, and you can't tell if it's because he's enjoying the fact that he thinks Jacob Fry is enjoying the Somali food or if he's enjoying the fact that Jacob Fry obviously hates it. He gets a kick out of the power dynamic here, but whatever it is.

Oh, Ahmed, you've. You've done it again.

Yes, good. Just. Just isn't the word. Oh, boy. I. Oh, yes. Hello.

Would you like another bowl, Han Solo? Oh, no, no, please, Achmed. I. I couldn't possibly have another bite. No.

Couldn't do it. Absolutely humiliating for Jacob Fry. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. But this is a warning. Some of us conservatives are gonna look at this and say, ha. Take that, Minnesota. Minnesota. You guys are libs. You're the only state that voted against Reagan in 84. You've been libs for a long time, and you get what you deserve. The fact that you've been overrun by Somalis, yet you deserve that. And the fact that you have to undergo this humiliation ritual, Jacob Fry, where you're eating this Tatooine slop and you have to choke it down with a pained smile on your face. That's what you deserve. That's coming to a town near you, that's coming to a city near you. Because of the sheer scope of mass migration.

The largest movement of people in recorded history has been the movement of people into the United States since 1965. That was true 10 years ago, by the way. All the more so true today as the migration has kept up. One of the big problems about migration is they don't just stay in the first place that they land. So it's a Minnesota problem right now. It's gonna be everywhere else problem soon enough for a couple reasons. One, people move, and this is a country, and you're able to move from one state to another state. And two, because the native population of the United States across races, it's not even just a white person problem across white races. The native population of the United States doesn't have kids, and the immigrants have a ton of kids. So it's going to shift the demographics even more. And this round of immigrants doesn't assimilate that well. There are always problems of assimilation, even in the best of circumstances, you know, early 1920s, where there's really no welfare and where there's rampant discrimination against immigrant groups. And where those immigrants come here especially, you think of the. The Irish had previously come, and then the Italians, the Jews, people from Southern and Eastern Europe coming in and they say, hey, we're not speaking Italian in our home. Get rid of the Yiddish. We're gonna assimilate. We have to. We're gonna be in trouble in this country. Obviously, we're not in that situation anymore. Now the predominant culture says, don't assimilate. Our culture sucks. Your culture's awesome. Pass me more of that cantina gruel that Jacob Fry is choking down. The other reason, though, I think that the clip has gone viral, other than how funny it is to watch him choke it down, is because the last desperate argument for mass migration, the last one, they say, oh, these guys, they're not committing any crime. You see, first of all, all the illegal ones, by definition, are committing crimes. And two, they actually do commit a lot of crimes and actually the ones who come across the border, they all work with the cartels. And so now they do commit a lot of crime. Okay, well, they don't really use welfare resources. Yes, they do. They use way more welfare resources than the native population of the United States. And in a lot of cases, they just defraud the system to the tune of a billion bucks to send it to a Somalian terror group called Al Shabaab. So no, they do. They're not a net positive for the American economy.

It's difficult to make the argument they're a net positive. Okay, well, what's the final desperate argument? They say, but the food. Yes, your sister might have been raped on the street and your home might have been broken into and you can't walk out at night after 8pm but have you ever had an authentic street taco? Oh golly, isn't it so great? Even tacos. I'll take it or leave it. I don't really care about tacos. But it takes like two immigrants into a country to get the food. You don't need 50 million people to get a taco. It takes one guy to make a taco and then that guy can teach other people here. And you don't need. So even if you do, like I'm lukewarm on tacos. But even if you really like tacos, you don't need this many migrants. You need like two of them. But the funniest thing about this clip is even that argument falls flat because no one likes Somali food, cuz it's gross. I was talking to an associate of mine the other day who's a Kurd, he's Iraqi, but he's from Kurdistan. And we're talking, we actually in Nashville there are a lot of Kurds and Kurds make great food. A lot of people from the Middle east, the Levant, make really good food. I don't want it all the time, but I'll eat it. I'll get into a nice kebab, a nice little shawarma. Okay, Indian. I love Indian food. I know you're not supposed to say this on the right. You're not supposed. You have to hate Indians. Now I really like Indians. I really like Indian food. I like all that. I like Chinese food, I like Thai food. I like all.

No one likes Somali food. Nobody likes it. So even that argument. Okay, now we take that away. So then the question which I posed on the show last week, why are we taking these people in? Why? And the only argument, the only argument is we feel bad. We feel bad for them, which comes out of a good place, a place of Christian charity. It's misplaced because we're doing the wrong thing about that. But okay, I get it. We feel bad for them and we feel bad about ourselves. We believe erroneously in most cases that we have wronged every people of the world, that we've committed some crime and our penance is that we need to open our borders and lose our country.

And you can kind of make the plausible argument when it comes to Latin America kind of. Again, I don't find it persuasive, but you can kind of make it, okay, yeah, we took some lands that were previously controlled by the Spanish and okay, you can't make it with Somalia. You could kind of make the argument with Afghanistan. Well, we went into Afghanistan again, I think it was totally justified. Or Iraq. But you can't make it with Somalia. We've only ever tried to help Somalia and they've never contributed anything to our country. So why do we take them in? The only reason, the only reason is.

Guilt. Now this has led to a major change in President Trump's view of immigration and I can't believe this went entirely unnoticed. This has been the big issue, specifically Trump's big issue since 2015. Over the weekend he radically changed his stance on immigration towards something that I have been calling for for many years. And some other conservatives who are particularly a little more rock ribbed have been calling for for many years and it seems like nobody noticed it. We'll get to that. A moment. First, I want to tell you about leaffilter. Go to leaffilter.com knowles Leaffilter is not just another gutter guard. It's a trusted name built to last with years of relentless engineering behind it. Those hood style knockoffs, they cannot keep up. In heavy rain, water pours right over the edge straight to your foundation. In lighter rain, leaves and debris flow right in the gap. Leaffilter works better because it is topped by surgical grade stainless steel and micro mesh so water is channeled in while debris is filtered out. Every installation comes with a lifetime clog free guarantee. They are trusted by over a million homes. A Leaffilter trusted pro will even clean out, realign and seal your gutters before installing. Do not settle for a knockoff. Protect your home with Leaffilter. Do it. If you're like me, you don't want to be getting up on that ladder, digging muck out of your gutters, causing problems with your walls, problem with your foundation. Don't do it. Start protecting your home today. With LeafFilter, America's number one gutter protection system. Schedule your free inspection at leaffilter.com knolls that is up to 35% off at L E A F filter.com K N O W L E S See representative for warranty details in this episode, very, very important episode of Michael and Michael and the Sharia Survivor. I sit down with author and human rights activist Sabatina James to hear her extraordinary and harrowing story. From being promised to marry her cousin as an infant to escaping a forced marriage, to surviving the threat of an honor based death sentence under Sharia law, her parents traveling around trying to murder her, Sabatina opens up about the brutal that she faced under Islam and how she found freedom, Christianity and a new mission to rescue others still trapped in that system. Check out this teaser.

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I was born in a little village in Pakistan. In my case, I was promised to my cousin when I was born there in that living room of my parents, my mother and my father and a Muslim scholarly person and my cousin from Pakistan. They had invited him to come over. And you know how they did that? They adopted him as their son to.

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Get around the immigration. Yes.

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So he was adopted. The Muslim scholar, he folded his hands, said, you know what happens in Islam when you leave the religion? And I knew what happens? It's the death penalty. Normally you get three days. That's Sharia law. You get three days to recant. It's torturing the convert so that he can become Muslim again. And if they don't, then you kill them. Please don't let us do what we have to do. Otherwise.

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President Trump has just radically changed his immigration position and no one's talking about it. Trump posts on Truth Social an image of a block of text that was not original. It had been tweeted out by Geiger Capital. But Trump just takes this block of text and tweets it. What does the guy say? Says A century ago, President Calvin Coolidge signed into law the Immigration act of 1924. He stated plainly, new arrivals should be limited to our own capacity to absorb them. America must be kept American. For this purpose, it is now necessary to enact a policy of restricted immigration. The 1924 act passed the House and Senate with overwhelming support. Democrats and Republicans agreed. It introduced new tight immigration quotas, new visa requirements. The Border Patrol outright banned immigrants from certain countries that we viewed as incompatible with our culture. It dramatically reduced the number of people coming into the country provided an opportunity for the recent great wave of immigrants to assimilate. By the 40s and 50s, American society thrived with a booming economy, rising middle class, common culture and limited immigration. The act was in Place until 1965. Since then, we have experienced decades of historic immigration, both legal and illegal. Today, we have higher levels of foreign born than the early 1900s by both raw number and percentage of the population. This mass immigration has also included vastly different cultures than the mostly European immigrants we accepted then. It's obvious that we once again need to make a national policy shift and it should be bipartisan. It's time for another immigration Act. So it's not that Trump wrote that, but he just posted that block of text without any further comment, as if to say, I endorse all of this text. And it's really crucial because.

There are three views you can hold on immigration. One is the liberal view. It's held by the left and by the Chamber of Commerce Republicans, which is, we need more illegal immigration. We don't want to do a thing about illegal immigration. The only thing we want to do is give them amnesty, encourage even more of it. We want illegal immigration and we want legal immigration. Then there's the.

I'll call it what the proceduralist conservative answer. This is kind of squishy. But this was GOP orthodoxy for decades, which is, we gotta do something about illegal immigration, but we just want them to come here legally. Oh, some people would go further. They would say, you know what, I wanna stop illegal immigration and I want more legal immigration than ever. So it's not the problem's not the immigration, it's just how you do it. It's not the substance of what's happening, it's the procedure to get there. And by the way, that position was Trump's position. President Trump campaigned on that. This was one area where I disagreed with President Trump on the campaign trail. You know, obviously people are gonna have disagreements. President Trump, he gets it right 99.789% of the time. But on certain things, and I've been pretty, pretty blunt about my disagreements with the White House in the first term. I disagreed with the First Step Act, a few other things around the ivf, a few other things along the way. But that was the Trump position. And I think it was probably the only politically salient position. In fact, had I been advising the Trump campaign, I was not. But had I been advising the Trump campaign back in 2016, I might have told him to endorse that position, because that was probably the most based position, the most right wing, you know, conservative position you could hold at the time. We want to stop illegal, but we want more legal immigration. But there was always the elusive third position, which is the conservative position, which is, hey, guys, it's not just the procedure, okay? It's the substance. We just have too many immigrants from places that are too incompatible with the United States, and we're not assimilating them at all, and we just need to stop it. I mean, this is my position on immigration. I don't hold an eternal, for all times, ideological position. We either need lots of immigration or we need to totally cut immigration off entirely. My view of this issue, like my view of virtually all issues, puts prudence first as the paramount political virtue and says, look, sometimes it's fine or maybe even good to have immigration, and sometimes it's bad. And you know What? In the 19 teens, you're going to have one immigration policy, and in the 1920s and 30s, you're gonna have a different immigration policy. And it kind of just depends on the circumstances on the ground, because politics is a practical science. It's the art of inclusion. And now I think we are very clearly at a place where we need drastically less migration of all sorts. And Trump just endorsed that view. That is radical. Now. I think that's where most people are. I think most people. Not most people on tv, not most people in Congress, but most actual Americans. If you talk to most actual Americans, that's where they are. They say, it's just crazy, man.

I get on the train, I walk down the street. I don't hear English.

People are forming their own little enclaves. They're not assimilating. They are trying to get one over on the native population here. In some cases, they're succeeding, defrauding us to the tune of a billion bucks. It's too much. It's too much. It's creating social solidarity problems. We gotta stop it. Trump endures that. He should be greatly encouraged in that, and we should be encouraged that he did that and we should keep it up. This is the conservative position now. Okay? I think it was the conservative position even when President Trump was a little more liberal on immigration. But now there's no question that's where the base is, that's where the President is, and that's where everyone else all along the way should be as well. Liberals absolutely horrified by this, because the liberal line is that immigrants built this country. We're a nation of immigrants. Immigrants built this country. You would even hear Many conservatives say this for years. And Pramila Jayapal, Democrat, Congress lady, she's taken that argument to its logical extreme, and I think she's exposed it for being so false. She comes out and she says, look, immigrants built this country. Somalis who are immigrants. Somalis built the United States of America.

The majority of Americans across the country, regardless of political party, know that immigrants from all over the world, Somalia, India.

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Wherever they're from, Latin America, Africa, that.

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Immigrants have built this country and make.

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This country what it is today.

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Somalis got here in the 1990s. So I think like literally the first ever Somali on American soil. I think that person got here in the 1920s. There were a handful, I mean, a handful of Somalis in this country. There were none. There were exactly zero before the early 20th century. 1607, Jamestown, 16, 19, 20, the Mayflower to 1920s. Not one Somali here. And yet. And yet, amazingly, the country was built over those years, but then there were essentially no somalis until the 1990s. Then you had this flood of Somalis coming over, and they have never built anything in America. They've only taken from America as a group, not even knocking individuals just as a group. They've never contributed anything. And the country was obviously not built by them. The country was not built by plenty of immigrants. In fact, the immigrant groups that started coming here in the 1960s, the mid to late 1960s, South Asian.

Lot more Middle Eastern, African. Those groups, I don't think we could say they built America because America was built before them. You know, we beat the British twice. We came through a brutal, bloody civil war. We then conquered the Western hemisphere, and then we won two world wars.

And conquered most of the globe before any of them ever got here. So how would you say they built America? All of our institutions, our universities, our government institutions, our cultural institutions, Hollywood, the news media, everything. Coca Cola, Henry Ford, all of that stuff was built before any of them got there. So how could you say they built America? And in the case of the people who got here since the 1960s, everything's basically gotten worse since then. Social solidarity's frayed. We've fallen almost immediately. We fell below replacement birth rate. So we're literally a dying country. Marriage collapsed, divorce soared, abortion soared. We started killing a million of our own citizens a year. Innocent little babies. I don't know. Things haven't. Trust in institutions has collapsed. Happiness has collapsed. Things have gotten a lot worse. If you say, well, it was immigrants built that, you say, well, I wouldn't be bragging about it. Buddy. But then it gets down to a deeper myth that we're told about the country. And it's part of this self hating part of this gets back to what we were talking about. Why are we taking all these Somalis in to defraud us and commit crimes and stuff? Well, cause we feel bad and we feel bad for other people, which is a good thing. We should have charity, which has to be rightly ordered. But we also feel bad about ourselves. We have a disordered hatred of ourselves. And this manifests in the idea that immigrants built our country. The settlers, Jamestown, Plymouth, the pilgrims, the colonials, the brave men who fought the American Revolution, the 19th century. Yeah, they did nothing. If they did anything at all, they suck. They were slavers, for a few of them were slavers, but they were awful. They were terrible. Immigrants built this country. That's part of the lie, but it just isn't true. And I think those guys, the founding fathers, the men before the founding fathers, the settlers, those guys deserve a lot of credit. It gets to a deeper criticism sometimes. They'll say, well, you know, who really built this country? Even before the immigrants, it was the slaves built this country. And that isn't true either.

Throughout history.

All societies, at some point, all areas of the world have had slavery. Many still have it today. If you look at ancient Sparta, there was a whole class of slaves called the Helots. Would anyone, would any historian look back and say it was the Helots who built Sparta? You know, what defined Sparta, you know, what made Sparta, Sparta? The Helots, the slaves. No, when you look at Russia, Russia had serfdom, a form of slavery until very recently.

Would anyone say, oh yes, the distinguishing feature about Russia, that which gives Russia its culture, its religious culture, its music culture. Tchaikovsky, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Turgenev. No, it was none of those guys. It was the serfs. They built Russia. No, obviously they contributed. Would you say the great cathedrals that were built, the great monuments, the great works of art and sculpture, Bernini, would you say? No, actually, you know, who really built all those cathedrals? It was like the random stonemason. No, they contributed. That's important. But no, the thing that gives it its form, the civilization, its distinguishing features, it's not just the worker bees. We're all worker bees to some degree. And it's these great men whose names, you know, who had great thoughts and great visions and who.

Gave these institutions shape. And a big part of the political shift in America is we always understood that and we try to give credit where credit's due and bring people in and include people and make life more equitable. But we still defended the guys who built our civilization. And then also right around the 1960s, that changed and we started to vilify them and we started to hate ourselves as a consequence. And we are palpably losing our country as a result. So you have to fix that. You don't want to have an excessive love of your own excellences. That's pride, which is not only a deadly sin, it's the, it's the deadliest of the deadly sins. It's the original sin. Likewise, you don't want to have an excessive contempt for oneself. You want to have a proper love for yourself.

Happily, in this case, that proper love for yourself is in accord with the historical facts. We can be nice to Somalis, but we should not be suicidally nice to Somalis. And we should not pretend that Somalis built America. Didn't happen. Now, Speaking of Minneapolis St. Paul, I want to tell you about the original St. Paul and I want to tell you about the St. Paul Center. Go to saintpaulcenter.com America I absolutely love the St. Paul Center. It is one of the organizations I most love in the country. I have my St. Ignatius study Bible, which was edited by the founder of the St. Paul Center, Scott Hahn, on my desk. It is in absolutely invaluable resource. This episode is sponsored by the St. Paul center because America has reached a cultural and spiritual crossroads. People are looking for the truth. They are much more interested in the eternal questions than they have been at any point in my life. In their search, more and more people are turning to the Bible for answers. We should probably have expected this because this is like the book that shaped our whole civilization and from which virtually all of the other works of art derive. And it's also the inspired, inerrant Word of God. But even if you don't believe that, like, you know, it's been around a pretty long time, a lot of people have found it pretty valuable. It's no surprise that people would rediscover this. Bible Across America is a nationwide Bible study, the biggest Bible study in the country. Hosted by the St. Paul center for Biblical Theology, it's a seven week Bible study exploring the personal challenge of affirming Jesus as teacher and Lord. Join the movement. Learn to share your faith confidently. Starting November 5th, sign up at stpaulcenter.com America right now go to dailywire.com subscribe this is your last chance to get our 50% off new annual Membership discounts. Unbelievable. You get everything. You get all the shows, you get the dax, you get pen drag. You get all this amazing stuff. Best deal of the year. 50% off DailyWire.com subscribe My favorite comment yesterday is from or this is on Friday. This is from Dr.calibration7984 who says he's quoting me, says there are a lot of sailors in the Knowles family. I was talking about how a lot of my family was in the Navy. There were a lot of sailors in the Knowles family. He writes all of Michael's lighten the loafers. Proclivities have been explained. I can make this joke. I'm a crayon eater.

That's it. I really walked into that one. You know, I know I've got a little tap dancing training. I play the ukulele every now and again.

Some of this is I'm Italian, but, you know, there's a fine line between Italian and a little bit, I don't know, flamboyant or so. I get it. I get it. But I walked right into that when I pointed out that there's a lot of Navy in the. But I tell you what, my heroic grandfather was a Navy captain. The guy had six kids. We had a family reunion over the weekend. Six kids. It's pretty good. That's beating the allegations. This is the crayon eater. It's a word for Marines. Did you know that? Did you know that? Okay.

Speaking of immigration, one last point on immigration. Then I want to get to Sydney Sweeney. I want to get to the important issues.

There's a National security strategy. It was published in November, and the National Security Strategy looked at NATO or NATO members, specifically looked at Europe and pointed out that Europe is quickly losing its European identity. This is just from the National Security Strategy. Over the long term, it is more plausible, more than plausible, that within a few decades at the latest, certain NATO members will become majority non European.

As such, it is an open question whether they will view their place in the world or their alliance with the United States in the same way as those who signed the NATO charter when NATO was established after the Second World War. You got all these allies who say, well, look, we are part of the West. We're not in alliance with Russia, which was the other global power at the time. We're certainly not in alliance with China, which was a backwater. We're not in alliance with India, which was also backwater. We're not. We're European, we're Western. So America's the strongest country in the west right now. And we're gonna have this broad Western alliance led by the United States. It's part of the character of our civilization. Well, what happens when all those Westerners are gone? What happens when those Europeans are gone? Not all of them, but what happens when they lose their majority in their own countries? Let's say, let's just put ourselves in the 1950s and 60s. Let's say that all of a sudden France, all the French went away and they were replaced by Russians. Well, would it make sense for France to be in NATO at that point? NATO was the American led coalition against the Russian, Soviet led coalition of the Warsaw Pact. No, they would switch because you switch the people out. And so it wouldn't matter that you still had the Champs Elysees and you still had the Eiffel Tower and you still had tasty baguette. Well, you wouldn't have baguette for long. I guess you'd have borscht or something. But if you switch out the people, you switch out the country. So it wouldn't make sense for them to be in NATO. Well, okay, if we look ahead a few decades, a lot of these NATO countries won't be European anymore. That's a threat to NATO. It's a threat to the United States. NATO at least. Doesn't make sense. So national security strategy says our broad policy for Europe should prioritize. Re establishing conditions of stability within Europe and strategic stability with Russia. Enable Europe to stand on its own tv Cultivating resistance to Europe's current trajectory within European nations. Build up the businesses and the markets. Encourage Europe to take action to combat overcapacity. Whatever we want. Europe. The key line here is cultivating resistance to Europe's current trajectory, meaning to stop being majority European. Shashank Joshi, who is defense editor at the Economist, mocks this. He inveighs against this US national security strategy. He says Trump's national security strategy make Europe white again. Then he quotes this line, you know, it's gonna become majority non European. There's a real and more stark prospect of civilizational erasure. He's quoting from the national Security strategy, says this is, this is awful. He's implying the Trump national security strategy is to make Europe white again.

Shouldn't it be? Shouldn't Europe be white? What we mean by white is European. They're synonymous.

Just saying his strategy is to make Europe European again. Yeah, we probably should, shouldn't we? Obviously, if we went in and said, hey, some African country is going to become white now, not black. Well, Actually, that happened. It happened to varying degrees in the colonial projects up through the protests against apartheid and all the rest. And we were told, no, no, that's wrong. You can't replace the native population. And yet here the Economist defense editor seems to be implying that we have to replace the native population of Europe.

Or it's racist or something.

It seems to me pretty obvious that Europe should remain white. It should not become, you know, a hotbed of Islam or something. The Muslims have been trying to conquer Europe since the 7th century. They got pretty close starting in the 8th century. 732, Battle of Poitiers, Battle of Lepanto, Battle of Vienna, the conquest of Iberia. You know, they've been trying it for a really long time and now they might succeed. So isn't. If we can agree, if we can agree that Europe maybe should keep Europeans in it, then let me take this to the next level. What about America? Would it be bad? Let me ask you this. Would it be bad if there were no white people left in America? America was founded by white people who made alliances with Indians, who then later brought African slaves, who then later took in certain migrants who were less obviously white and not Northern European. And okay, well, sure, it was white people. And then it was well over 95% white or more for the vast majority of its history. And since 1965, that's changed. So I'm not saying it's gotta remain 95% white or it's gotta return to being 95. But let me just ask you, would it be bad? Could you conclude it would be bad if every single white person were out of America? Because over time we took in.

The vast majority of migration being not white. And then the white people, the native population here didn't have kids at above replacement birth rate. And so they're just someday, many decades from now, there were no white people left in America. Would you say that would be bad that nobody left in America had any connection genetically, as a matter of family tradition, as a matter of common culture to the founding stock of the country that like built the whole country? Would that maybe not be a great thing? You see how modestly I'm trying to frame this question because I think most people of all backgrounds, immigrant, non immigrant, white, black, yellow, red, everybody in the middle, I think everybody would agree that would be probably not great, probably not advisable. Something would be like a little wrong, not quite fitting about that. Okay, well then that means that the conversation over national quotas and what kind of immigration we're taking in Nationally, ethnically, everything in between. That means that that is a legitimate question. Now, obviously, that was how we talked about immigration until, in fact, even today, but certainly until 1965 and even today, you're just not supposed to admit it anymore. But if one admits that it would be bad if not a single white person were left in America, then it means that we really are having that conversation. So then what's the number then? What's the number today? It's 60%. Used to be, you know, 99%, whatever. What's the number? Very. Oh, people don't want to have that conversation. But. And you wouldn't really have to have the conversation so urgently if there were not an active policy in the United States now, over decades of the mass importation of people who are not particularly connected to the historic American culture and political tradition. Okay, speaking of race, I know I'm running late. I don't care, because this ties in too perfectly. And it's a real knife in the heart situation. Sydney Sweeney. You remember sweet Sydney Sweeney, she did that jeans ad. And the joke was, Sydney Sweeney's got great genes because she's hot. She's physically attractive, which comes a little bit from diet and exercise, but she's just, you know, some people are just born hotter than others. I don't know. And she's just a Hollywood starlet. Makes sense. Sydney Sweeney has great jeans. And they never said that's racist. Now, they wouldn't have said it if it were a hot black girl, but because it was a hot white girl, they did say it. You're not allowed to say that. You're not allowed to talk about beauty when it comes to white people like Sydney Sweeney. And you remember her response. After months and months of non traversy, her response when asked by this GQ journalist was this.

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The president tweeted about the jeans ad or truth socialed about the jeans ad. And that just seems to me.

Like a very crazy moment for anyone. And I wondered.

What that was like. It was surreal. It was surreal.

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Wasn't the liberal journalist wasn't that bad? I mean.

What was that like? And then Sydney Sweeney, just dead eyes, cold blood, stares right into her soul, goes, it was surreal. Then she goes on further, the journalist says, well, I want to give you the opportunity to talk about this thing that's causing you a lot of problems. And Sydney Sweeney says, yeah, when I want to talk, I'll talk.

And it was great. We all loved it because she didn't back down. And there are reports that she's a Registered Republican and all the rest. Well.

Nothing gold can stay, my friends. She tells People magazine. I was honestly surprised by the reaction. I did it because I love the jeans and love the brand. I don't support the views. Some people chose to connect to the campaign. Many have assigned motives and labels to me that just aren't true. Anyone that knows me knows I'm always trying to bring people together. So here's. So she apologizes. This is a kind of implicit. It's not a full apology. She says, I love the jeans, I love the brand. But she says, you know, people are ascribing these views to me. Now again, are they talking about these funny memes where they're saying she's like a Nazi now? You know, she's like an Aryan goddess or something? Okay, yes. She's not. I don't think Sydney Sweeney's a Nazi or anything like that. Or is she disavowing this broader association with the American right? Here's where the line that gets me. She goes. I'm against hate and divisiveness. Yes, of course, we all are. And the left primarily promotes that. And that's evident in the social scientific numbers about disowning family members and supporting political violence. And they support it. But they use that language. You don't really hear this from the right. Stop hate. Stop hate. It's always the left wing organizations that use this. Be kind, stop, hate, don't divide us. And she starts using that language. In the past, my stance has been to never respond to negative or positive press. But recently I've come to realize that my silence regarding this issue has only widened the divide, not closed it. So I hope this new year brings more focus to what connects us instead of what divides us. All right, so this is liberals in Hollywood telling her she's gotta change strategy and they're exploiting her and she's getting bad advice. I get why she's doing it. I'm speculating. But I think the reason she's doing this is cause her recent movies have bombed. So she had this movie in November of this year. It only made 1.31 million bucks at the box office. Christie August was a flop. This movie, Americana, half a million bucks, reportedly. And also in August, Eden million bucks. Echo Valley was not released at the box office, but it had low streams, I guess, in June. These are movies I'd never heard of until this morning. So obviously they didn't do very well. And I think probably it's publicists in Hollywood lib saying, hey, you're getting crushed because you did that jeans ad. And you need to come out and apologize. And that's why these movies are bombing. And I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true. I have this. Here we go. Don't take my word for it. Take the New York Times. 25 movies, many stars, zero hits. Hollywood falls to new lows. It's been a brutal three months for dramas and comedies. This is from November 2025. So the movies are bombing and it's not Sydney Sweeney's fault. It's the movie's fault. It's not Sydney Sweeney doing a commercial. That was an excellent commercial and got a lot of attention. It's the movies that are bombing. And there's an irony here. Cuz I bet what's happening is these libs in Hollywood are telling Sydney Sweeney, someone sent her this. She needs to hear this. Someone's telling her, in Hollywood your movies are bombing because people associate you with the right now, and that jeans ad was a mistake and you need to apologize for it. And she comes out and does this kind of tepid, slight apology and she takes their advice. And.

Ironically, I think the reason her movies are bombing is because all the movies are bombing because the liberals no longer have the cultural dominance they once did. The cultural dominance of the left was expressed by. By the hit movies, by the common culture. The fact that those don't really exist anymore proves to you that the left has lost its cultural hegemony, which is good. Now we need to build something in its place. That's good. But now you got these libs. It's this desperate grasp, this last gasp to say, hey, no, no, no, hold on. We can still force Sydney Sweeney to toe the line. We'll give you your hit movies back. You can't. The liberals won't give you your hit movies back. There are no hit movies anymore. Don't fall for it, Sidney. Don't fall for it. I read that the minute I saw that headline from People. I said, oh, no. Nature's first green is gold. Her hardest hue to hold her early leafs a flower, but only so an hour. Then leaf subsides to leaf. So Eden sank to grief. So dawn goes down to day. Nothing gold can stay. I know it's a fallen world. People are gonna. They're gonna squish a little bit. But you don't have to, Sidney. They won't give you your hit movies back. Hold firm. It's a Faustian bargain. Don't do it. Wow, huge story. One of the main stories I wanted to talk about today. I don't have time. Someone opened fire on Tim Poole's house. How's that for a teaser? We'll get to that tomorrow. Today is Music Monday. The rest of the show continues now. You do not want to miss it. Become a member. Use code knowleskender WLAS at checkout for two months free on all annual plans.

All of this is an illusion. An echo of a voice that has died.

And soon that echo will cease.

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They say that Merlin is mad.

They say he was a king in Dovid. The son of a princess of lost Atlantis. They say the future and the past are known to him. That the fire and the wind tell him their secrets. That the magic of the hills and druids come forth at his easy command.

They say he slew hundreds. Hundreds. Do you hear that? The world burned and trembled at his wrath.

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The Merlin died long before you and.

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I were born.

Merlin. Emrys has returned to the land of the living.

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Van is gone. Rome is gone. The Saxon is here.

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Saxon Hengist has assembled the greatest war host ever seen in the island of the mighty. And before the summer is through, he means to take the throne.

And he will have it if we are too busy squabbling amongst ourselves to take up arms against him. Here is your home. A king will arise to hold all Britain in his hand. A high king who will be the wonder of the world.

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You.

To a future of peace.

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There'll be no peace in these lands.

[A]

Till we are all dust. Men of the island of the Mighty, you stand together.

You stand together as Britons.

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You stand as warned.

Great darkness is falling upon this land.

These brothers are our only hope to stand against it.

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Not our only hope.

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They say Mirthen slew 70 men with his own hands. I, Cathay, he slew 500.

No man is capable of such a thing.

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No mortal man.

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