Ep. 1970 - AOC Claims Black People Invented Democracy

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Michael Knowles Show (Ep. 1970) Date: May 8, 2026
Host: Michael Knowles (The Daily Wire)
Main Theme:
This episode centers on prominent left-wing voices' rhetoric around race, democracy, and policy radicalism, particularly focusing on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's (AOC) claim that Black people "invented democracy," Stacey Abrams' perspectives on voting and authoritarianism, and a broader critique on the collapsing distinction between moderate and fringe Democrats. Additional discussions include the handling of transgender issues among Democratic presidential hopefuls, threats against a conservative journalist investigating fraud, and reactions to anticipated UFO/UAP government disclosures.

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1. AOC: “Black People Invented Democracy” & Historical Revisionism

• Key Segment: [02:12–07:34]

Key Points:

• Michael Knowles highlights AOC’s remarks, quoting her directly:
  • AOC: “How Black Americans really created democracy in this country… How they literally made something from nothing…” [02:42–03:03]
• Knowles critiques AOC’s statement as a form of modern revisionism—comparing it to earlier “Black Power” activism where historical claims were made for various achievements regardless of factual accuracy.
  • “Back in the 1970s, during the Black power movement, black activists created this meme where they would just claim credit for everything in history.” [03:11]
• He humorously references a debate with Black Hebrew Israelites and jokes about historical figures like King James and Cleisthenes being depicted as Black (satirizing AOC's implications).
• Knowles notes that democracy traces back to ancient Greece, not 1960s America, mocking the notion that “true democracy” didn’t exist until radical 20th-century activism.
  • Quote: “James Madison did not invent democracy. He’s the father of our constitution…but really democracy goes back to ancient Greece.” [04:17]
• The discussion segues into satire, referencing the “Old Negro Space Program” video, lampooning exaggerated historical claims – comparing these parodic moments to current political talking points.

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2. Stacey Abrams & Redefining Democracy

• Key Segment: [09:12–13:25]

Key Points:

• Knowles plays a clip from Stacey Abrams, arguing that US states are now “authoritarian” or “democratic,” not simply red or blue:
  • Stacey Abrams: “We are watching...the restoration of the very laws that pretended racial neutrality but were intended to deny black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy, which is one of the principal goals of authoritarianism...And right now in the United States, race is the strongest predictor of political leanings. And so it's a lucky twofer—they get the partisanship, but they also get the white supremacy that they seek.” [09:17–10:42]
• Knowles rebuts this line by referencing recent Supreme Court decisions (notably, Clarence Thomas’ opinion in Louisiana v. Calais, striking down racial gerrymandering).
  • “Stacey Abrams is only famous because she lost democratic elections...then refused to concede.” [12:27]
• He accuses Abrams and AOC of conflating democracy with liberalism:
  • “What the libs mean when they use the word democracy is just liberalism...when the people vote against Democrats, they argue it’s anti-democratic.” [12:25]
• He frames Abrams’ and AOC’s approach as either “profound ignorance or...duplicity."

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3. No Longer a Gap Between ‘Moderate’ & Radical Democrats

• Key Segment: [13:25–14:43, 16:04–21:10]

Key Points:

• Knowles argues the Democratic Party’s radical fringe and moderate establishment are now indistinguishable:
  • “There is no distinction between the fringe, radical, craziest left...and the moderate, sensible, establishment, liberal Democrat. There is no distinction anymore.” [21:08]
• Example: Interview with Maryland Governor Wes Moore (considered a moderate), asked by PBD if he would allow his underage son to transition. Moore demurs, refusing to advise his son to wait until 18, saying:
  • Wes Moore: “If this is how he is feeling…I’m not going to advise him on something that he feels is [important] at 14 years old.” [17:30]
• Knowles contends Moore’s answer signals Democrats’ ongoing support for radical gender ideology even after public backlash.
  • “If you want your kid to feel comfortable in his own skin, surely you would not tell him to radically change his skin…Wes Moore doesn’t catch that contradiction.” [18:37]
• Knowles asserts that while Democrats try to downplay “transing the kids” publicly, private answers reveal radical positions persist.

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4. Escalating Rhetoric & Political Violence

• Key Segment: [22:11–23:49]

Key Points:

• Knowles cites Mark Hamill’s social media post implying a wish for Trump’s death (“If only…” on a Trump gravestone image) as evidence of escalating, normalized hate among mainstream Democrats.
  • “Now Mark Hamill posts a picture of Donald Trump dead with a headstone above him…This is two weeks after one of Mark Hamill’s own…tried to blow Trump’s head off…” [22:11]
• He references actual attempted attacks on Trump and other conservatives, including Charlie Kirk, arguing liberals now openly encourage violence.

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5. Threats Against Conservative Journalist Luke Rosiak & Corruption Investigations

• Key Segment: [23:49–29:27]

Key Points:

• Knowles highlights journalist Luke Rosiak’s investigation into Medicaid/Medicare fraud in Ohio linked to Somali immigrants.
  • Plays clip exposing a fraud suspect’s admission and direct threat against the reporter and family.
    • Suspect: “I already know who you are. Your parents and so forth...I’m calling to warn you. That’s what I’m trying to do.” [26:10–26:42]
• Knowles accuses Democrats of siding with the perpetrators and ignoring violence against journalists when the target is conservative.
• He claims this is evidence the left prioritizes power over principles or public good, even at the expense of rule of law or journalistic safety.

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6. UFO Disclosure Day & Christian Responses to Non-Human Intelligence

• Key Segment: [30:09–37:57]

Key Points:

• Knowles discusses the anticipated “disclosure” of UFO/UAP information by the government.
  • Plays a pastor’s advice for preparing Christians for news about “non-human entities.”
  • Pastor: “There is coming a massive disclosure…non-terrestrial interdimensional beings are real…pastors who aren’t teaching their flock about non-human entities from a biblical perspective are missing the boat.” [30:45]
• Knowles reflects theologically: belief in non-human intelligences (angels/demons) is fully compatible with Christianity, but skepticism toward ET claims is warranted.
  • “I predict that [the government’s disclosure] will be a big bunch of nothing, that there will be no proof of ET, that it will not contradict the Bible.” [35:04]
• He jokes about rare agreement with Barack Obama, who also denied government cover-ups of aliens.

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7. Obama & the “Good Old Republican Party”

• Key Segment: [37:57–42:13]

Key Points:

• Knowles plays Obama lamenting about wishing for a Republican “loyal opposition” that supports rule of law.
  • Obama: “I’d love a Republican Party that was conservative in some ways, that didn’t agree with me on a whole bunch of stuff, but believed in rule of law and judicial independence…” [38:26]
• Knowles calls this revisionist, citing Obama’s own history of executive overreach (executive amnesty for illegal aliens), and Democratic leaders’ attacks on the judiciary.
  • “What Barack Obama is longing for is an ineffective Republican Party…a Potemkin Party…that just rolls over and does whatever we say.” [40:54]
• He frames current GOP gains as repudiating Obama’s wishes.

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8. Viewer Mailbag: Extremist Candidates & Media vs. Politics

• Key Segment: [43:59–47:45]

Key Points:

• Caller Arun asks why “groiper” Republican candidates are trying to sabotage the party by acting as racist provocateurs.
• Knowles argues these are not serious political figures but media personalities seeking attention and clicks rather than actual votes or influence.
  • “My thesis is obviously right…but even the candidates who are running in this way are really doing media.” [47:23]
  • Emphasizes actual voters consistently reject these fringe candidates.

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9. Violence, Civil Authority, and Armed Resistance

• Key Segment: [48:13–49:36]

Key Points:

• Responding to a tongue-in-cheek question about “armed resistance” against Democrats, Knowles clarifies:
  • Violence is “wrong in virtually all cases...if what you’re saying is the libs are trying to kill us and therefore…we need to take up arms…the answer is basically never.” [49:27]
  • Stresses traditional Just War theory: only legitimate if total civil collapse occurs, akin to “Mad Max.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Democrat radicalism: “There is no distinction between the fringe, radical, craziest left… and the moderate, sensible, establishment, liberal Democrat. There is no distinction anymore.” [21:08]
• On trans issues: “Would you trans your kid? The most moderate Democrat presidential candidate says, yup, absolutely.” [20:35]
• On AOC’s history comments: “James Madison did not invent democracy…democracy goes back to ancient Greece.” [04:17]
• On Democrat reaction to fraud: “The Democrats are taking the side of the Somali criminals, the fraudsters who are bilking the taxpayers for hundreds of billions of dollars…” [28:03]
• On Obama’s “loyal opposition” wish: “What Barack Obama is longing for is an ineffective Republican Party…just rolls over and does whatever we say.” [40:54]
• On violent rhetoric: “They have now resorted openly to calls to kill us, to say nothing of packing the Supreme Court, undermining election rules…” [41:19]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:12 – AOC’s remarks and historical revisionism
• 09:17 – Stacey Abrams on authoritarian states vs. democracy
• 16:39 – Wes Moore grilled on transing children
• 22:11 – Mark Hamill’s anti-Trump post, political violence
• 23:49 – Journalist Luke Rosiak threatened over Somali fraud investigation
• 30:09 – UFO Disclosure Day, Christian response
• 38:26 – Obama on his vision of the Republican Party
• 43:59 – Viewer mail: extremist Republican candidates
• 48:13 – Mailbag: “When is armed resistance justified?”

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Tone & Style:
Knowles is combative, satirical, and unapologetically conservative, consistently framing left-wing arguments as dishonest, radical, and dangerous. There is frequent use of sarcasm, exaggeration for comedic effect, and rhetorical questions to highlight what he views as liberal hypocrisy or illogic.

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For Listeners Who Missed It:
This episode is a fast-moving critique of current progressive rhetoric and policy, interspersed with cultural references, satirical asides, and theological musings. At its core, it’s both an argument for conservative vigilance against perceived leftist extremism and an insistence that the divisions between “moderate” and “radical” Democrats have vanished in the current political landscape.

Transcript

[Michael Knowles]

Black people invented democracy. According to aoc, the moderate Democrat presidential candidate confirms that he would trans his underage son. And the government prepares the public for the long anticipated UFO disclosure day that is set to begin any minute. I'm Michael Knowles.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

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[Michael Knowles]

Welcome back to the show. Speaking of galaxies far, far away and speaking of supposedly moderate Democrats, Mark Hamill has just wished for President Trump's death with a very vivid image that he posted to social media. The wishes for our collective demise continue and continue. Not good. The ethos of the left, not very good right now. There's a lot more to say. First though, go to ethos.com knowles kenna

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[Michael Knowles]

Breaking news in history. You know, we try to cover the news. The things that are happening right now that are different, that have changed, that we need to be aware of. When the left does, though, what the left does is they make their news in history. So they just rewrite history. And by rewriting history, they try to change the facts of the world today. So some breaking news from history. According to aoc, black people invented democracy.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) - quoted]

There are very few real archetypes of, in my opinion, truly what America is all about. I think about the civil rights and voting rights movement. And how black Americans really created democracy in this country.

[Michael Knowles]

That's exactly right.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) - quoted]

How they literally made something from nothing, it is just beyond me.

[Michael Knowles]

You know, back in the 1970s, during the Black power movement, some black nationalists, black activists, created this meme where they would just claim credit for everything in history.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

They would claim credit for being the pharaohs of Egypt or whatever. We were kings in Egypt, sort of move.

[Michael Knowles]

And so AOC is really just updating this to the founding fathers, which we should have seen coming. Cause Lin Manuel Miranda made a really famous Broadway musical and then movie about that where he just took all the founding fathers and made them all black or Hispanic. One time I was in New York, I was debating the black Hebrew Israelites. You know, these are these guys who say that black people are the real

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Jews and whites are the devil.

[Michael Knowles]

And so I was chatting with them. This was many, many years ago on the street. I was a teenage, maybe 20, 21. And I thought I found the flaw in their argument where they were claiming

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

that black people did all the good

[Michael Knowles]

stuff in history because they love the King James Bible. They said, the only Bible that you should read is the King James Bible. And I said, well, I found a flaw in your theory of history because King James, you might have heard, was not black. He was a white guy. And they had an answer for this. I was talking to this really funny black Hebrew Israelite and he said, no, that's where you're wrong, you white devil. And he just pulled out a poster board and. And it was King James, but he was black. They like colored him in. So then it got me thinking. I said, oh, well, maybe in the AOC world, maybe James Madison looks like this. For those of you who are listening, maybe it's just maybe James Madison was a black guy. But I thought, well, James Madison did not invent democracy. He's the father of our constitution, our system of government, which is largely democratic, but really democracy goes back to ancient Greece, to the 6th century BC in Athens, Cleisthenes. And then I thought, okay, maybe I just misperceived the marble busts of Cleosthenes. Maybe he was really just like a shaft looking guy with a big afro, you know, sort of broader, duskier features. The AOC rewrite of history. After I was done thinking about James Madison and Cleisthenes and the black Hebrew Israelites, I was reminded of probably the greatest YouTube video that has ever existed and that will ever exist. This is from the early days of YouTube and it was a Ken Burns style documentary on the old Negro space program.

[Narrator of Old Negro Space Program parody]

A lot of people today, they don't think about it. They say, oh, they're putting the mat on the moon, or, oh, they're setting up another space shuttle. But you see, they don't realize that in the early days of the space program, NASA was whites only. This was. When was it, 1957? 58. It was a different time, you understand. See, in 1957, if you were black and if you were an astronaut,

[Interviewer or Moderator]

you

[Narrator of Old Negro Space Program parody]

were out of work.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

You were.

[Michael Knowles]

It's too bad.

[Narrator or voice actor for Old Negro Space Program parody]

They had names like Loopy Louie Hayes, Suitcase Jefferson and Rocket Randall. What they lacked in technical know how they more than made up for in courage and zeal the courageous heroes of the old Negro space program.

[Michael Knowles]

The old Negro space program, Once a parody 20 years ago, now just a political talking point from one of the left's most prominent politicians, and indeed a viable presidential candidate. So why is AOC doing this? AOC is doing this because, according to the left, it's amazing. We talk about how it used to be the radical left would call for political violence and socialism and all this stuff, and now that's just completely mainstream. And the most milquetoast, supposedly moderate Democrats are the ones who are transing their kids, calling to murder the president, celebrating

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

the murder of ordinary moderate conservatives.

[Michael Knowles]

And so this has collapsed. These two extremes have now collapsed. The old Negro space program and a member of Congress, they've now collapsed. They're the same thing. This is a message to leftists who want to rewrite history.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

This is a message to Democrats who want to, I don't know, extol the supposed virtues of the progressive program.

[Michael Knowles]

Black people didn't have to do everything, okay? It's not just black people, like one group or your favored racial groups or whatever. They didn't have to do everything. White people can have done something. It's okay. It doesn't totally destroy progressivism or liberalism if white people ever did anything, ever. And to be really fair to aoc, I guess the plausible point she's trying to make is that democracy didn't really exist until 1960s radicalism, that true democracy didn't really exist until Democrat policies or whatever. But that just isn't true. That just isn't true. It's okay. You don't make your argument stronger when you say ridiculous things. And yet that's all they seem to do. Stacey Abrams. Speaking of black people in democracy, Stacey Abrams follows up on AOC's remarks by claiming that there are no longer red states and blue states. There are just authoritarian states. And Democratic states.

[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) - quoted]

Can you give us a sense of what fighting back in this moment is gonna look like?

[Stacey Abrams]

It's going to require that we remember we are the United States of America. And so we have to sit what Tennessee is doing next to the fight that's coming out of Louisiana, next to the fight that will follow in Mississippi and likely in South Carolina. We are watching in real time the restoration of the very laws that pretended racial neutrality but were intended to deny black and brown voters the right to participate in democracy, which is one of the principal goals of authoritarianism. They do not want to the people who may disagree with them to be heard. And right now in the United States, race is the strongest predictor of political leanings. And so it's a lucky twofer. They get the partisanship, but they also get the white supremacy that they seek. And I sat in a hearing Yesterday in Nashville, Tennessee, when 1. When the author of the legislation said, well, this is a conservative state. We should only have conservatives. And they intentionally erased the only black district, one of nine districts, the only one that allowed black Tennesseans to have some voice because they've already cracked Nashville. But we have to remember this is happening around the country, and it is part of an intentional nationwide pattern of behavior. We can be angry about Tennessee and we can laud the Tennesseans who have fought back so ably, but we've got to remember they started in the south, but they're coming for everyone.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay, so Stacey Abrams is whining cuz following the Supreme Court's decision in Louisiana versus Calais, which said that you're not allowed to gerrymander according to racial discrimination, which actually struck down a racist policy. Because of that, Tennessee is redistricted, and now it's a Republican state.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

And Stacey Abrams is saying this is horrible.

[Michael Knowles]

It's kind of ironic coming on the heels of Virginia just disenfranchising 91% just a week ago, disenfranchising 91% of of Republicans in the state. It's also ironic because that aforementioned supreme court decision, Louisiana vs Calais, had its most scorching opinion written by Clarence Thomas, the second ever black justice on the Supreme Court, who wrote an opinion that went even further than Alito, who wrote the majority opinion in the case and said that we need to strike down all of this racial gerrymandering. So it kind of cuts against her argument there. But then there's a third flaw with her argument, which is she says that there's a distinction between authoritarian states and democracy. And the flaw in her argument is not just that Republicans are not particularly authoritarian or that Democrats actually these days are beyond authoritarian. They're totalitarian. They're not merely enforcing a handful of laws for public life, but they're insisting upon a uniformity of thought and behavior

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

and belief for all of life, including private life.

[Michael Knowles]

But at a basic level, democracies can be authoritarian. There's nothing about democracy that precludes authoritarianism. Democracy is just what most people vote for. Democracies can be libertine. Democracies can be authoritarian. But it shows you that what the libs mean when they use the word

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

democracy is just liberalism.

[Michael Knowles]

So when the people vote against the Democrats, they argue that it is therefore anti democratic. But of course it's not when the democracy is just what most people vote for. The final hilarious thing about Stacey Abrams making this claim, whining about the demise of democracy is that Stacey Abrams is only famous because she lost democratic elections. She lost two of them when she ran for governor of Georgia in 2018 and 2022. She lost Democratic elections and and then refused to concede. So she maintains, she probably still maintains that she is the duly elected governor of Georgia. So she is most famous for subverting democracy multiple times, or at least attempting to subvert democracy. But it shows you a fundamental either misunderstanding, a profound ignorance about what politics really is and how it pertains to

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

race and democracy and all the rest.

[Michael Knowles]

Either a profound ignorance or a deceitfulness, duplicity and an intent to defraud people by misusing terms and grabbing power at all costs. Regardless, this is the norm now. We used to all make fun of the AOCs and the Stacey Abrams, but these guys are mainstream AOC could be the Democrat nominee for president. We used to make fun of Hasan Piker as some total wacko left winger. Hasan Piker.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

While he's calling for the murder of

[Michael Knowles]

Mueller multiple Republican senators, he is being exalted by the New York Times. You're seeing a total collapse of the fringe with the mainstream Democrats. They're the same thing. Now the Democrat presidential candidate is a black Hebrew Israelite. Effectively there is the milquetoast. Moderate liberal is the same thing as the radical socialist. They're all the same party. They've collapsed in on themselves and the left flank. One proof positive of this, the most moderate Democrat plausible presidential candidate Wes Moore has just said that he would trans his underage son. There's a lot more to say first though, go to fastgrowingtrees.com, code knowles k

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[Michael Knowles]

Pbd. Gotta give the guy credit, man. This was a great interview. He's interviewing Wes Moore. Wes Moore is the Democrat governor of Maryland. But he's distanced himself in some ways from the radical extremes of the Democrat parties. I'm not beholden to the Democrat party. You know, I'm the sensible, pragmatic, moderate. He's repeatedly said he's not gonna run for president, but everyone assumes that he

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

is seriously considering running for president.

[Michael Knowles]

And so let's test the pragmatic, sensible, moderate middle of the road. As milquetoast as it gets. Democrat PBD says, would you trans your kid?

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Your son comes in saying he wants to transition. What do you do?

[Wes Moore]

Well, first, I mean, if it's no, it's my son. So I love him regardless, right? And he's always going to have my undying love. That's. That's me, right? I want to make sure that I'm involved in understanding where he is, how

[Michael Knowles]

he's feeling, the way he's feeling, why

[Wes Moore]

he thinks it's important.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Yeah.

[Michael Knowles]

Would you do it or not?

[Wes Moore]

If this is a journey that he wants to go down, I want him to always be comfortable in his own skin, and I want him to always know that he has a partner in me to help him along that journey.

[Michael Knowles]

Would you advise him to wait till he's 18?

[Wes Moore]

If this is how he is feeling and I feel like I'm closely tied to him, I'm not going to advise him on something that he feels is. At 14 years old.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

What?

[Wes Moore]

No, I understand it, but what I'm saying is.

[Michael Knowles]

What are you saying?

[Wes Moore]

The most important thing for me.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah.

[Wes Moore]

Is I want him to feel safe in his own skin.

[Narrator or voice actor for Old Negro Space Program parody]

Uhhuh.

[Wes Moore]

Safe in his own decision making. But also know that at 14 years old, I want to be involved inside of that process as well.

[Michael Knowles]

I want to be involved.

[Wes Moore]

I'm not going to condemn him, nor castigate him.

[Michael Knowles]

No.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

I'm not going to take him out of the house.

[Michael Knowles]

No. Yeah.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

No one, actually.

[Wes Moore]

I'm not going to do anything that's going to hurt. Hurt him. But I just want to make sure that I'm involved.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah. Okay. That's a lot of words. He knows that this is an absolutely radioactive issue. This is the most extreme, shocking issue in. In many ways much more so than

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

abortion, even even though abortion is graver.

[Michael Knowles]

But. But this is just so absurd. I mean, this is what wiped the Democrats out in 2024, this specific issue of Transing the Kids. PVD says, Would you trans your kid?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

All these words. Well, I want him to feel comfortable

[Michael Knowles]

in his own skin. Okay, well, first of all, right off the bat, if you want your kid to feel comfortable in his own skin, surely you would not tell him to radically change his skin. Right. You say you need to feel comfortable with your body. You would not encourage him in the delusion that he is somehow opposed to his body. Right. Wes Moore doesn't quite get that. He doesn't catch that contradiction. He says, I wouldn't. I wouldn't kick him out of the house. No one asked. If you're gonna kick him out of the house, would you trans your kid? It says, well, I wouldn't. I don't want to give him advice either way. You don't want to. I thought you just said you wanted to be there and guide your son. That's the basic role of a father. Now you're not gonna give him advice when he says he wants to chop his genitals off. You're not gonna give him advice, so what are you gonna do? Well, I just wanna be. I wanna journey with him. You wanna journey with him? That means you're gonna go along with it. And so PBD catches this and he says, would you at least tell him to wait until he's 18 to chop his genitals off? And Wes Moore says, no, no, I wouldn't. And there it is, there it comes. He's doing his best to dance around the issue, but there it is. Excellent job from PBD here. I mean, really great way to just

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

nail him on the question.

[Michael Knowles]

And it tells you everything you need to know. Because in many ways we have succeeded. We have eradicated transgenderism from public life almost entirely. The thing that I said three years ago at CPAC that got me accused of genocide, they make all these headlines, said it was so radical, so crazy, so extreme. No way. Basically everybody's come around to that. Even the Democrats have really downplayed the trans issue. I was speaking to a very prominent Democrat pundit just the other night and he was saying, yeah, this issue, you know, we were talking with a number of people, they said this issue is so unpopular for Democrats that they kind of have to downplay it. But what happens when you drill them on it? What happens when you say, okay, great, I know you wanna downplay this cuz

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

the voters think you're nuts.

[Michael Knowles]

And you're trying to do the Abigail Spanberger thing where you play the moderate and then when you get elected, you'll enact the most radical agenda. But push comes to shove, do you still support transing little kids chopping off their genitals? Do you still support that? The most moderate Democrat presidential candidate says, yup, absolutely. There is no distinction between the fringe, radical, craziest left that Carl Marx could never possibly have imagined, and the moderate,

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

sensible, establishment, liberal Democrat.

[Michael Knowles]

There is no distinction anymore.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

It is gone.

[Michael Knowles]

The proof of that is all around

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

us on abortion, on open borders.

[Michael Knowles]

But the. The real undeniable heuristic here. Do you support transing the kids? The moderate guy says yes. What moderate Dems look to Mark Hamill. Mark Hamill, Luke Skywalker, a guy who is famous for having had one big film role in the 1970s, that's his whole career. And he tries to position himself just, you know, kind of regular Democrat. He was just campaigning with Barack Obama the other day to launch Obama's presidential library. Barack Obama published a video with Mark Hamill a week ago. Now Mark Hamill posts a picture of Donald Trump dead with a headstone above him, flowers growing out of his body. And it says, if only. Mark Hamill writes, if only he should

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

live long enough to witness his inevitable devastating loss in the midterms, be held accountable for his unprecedented corruption, impeached, convicted and humiliated for his countless crimes. Long enough to realize he'll be disgraced in the history books forevermore.

[Michael Knowles]

Donthecon if only. And it's a picture of Trump lying dead. This is two weeks after one of Mark Hamill's own, one of Barack Obama's own just tried to blow Trump's head off along with the entire government at the White House Correspondents Dinner. That guy wasn't a radical, fringe guy. NPR admitted that NPR was interviewing a left wing operative named Jared Holt. They were discussing the ideological motivations of the White House Correspondents Dinner shooter. And they concluded, this is damning. They concluded that the guy wasn't really that radical. He actually believed pretty much just what every Democrat believes. The guy who Barack Obama's publishing videos with days later doubles down on this. A week after another leftist tries to murder Trump. Eight months after a leftist succeeded at murdering Charlie Kirk, the most prominent conservative organizer. That just two months, three months after a leftist nearly murdered President Trump on his golf course. That just a month or two after

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

a leftist blew off part of Trump's

[Michael Knowles]

ear at a campaign stop in Pennsylvania. They won't stop. There is no moderation. And the violence is getting worse, as we see with our very own Luke Rosiak. Luke Rosiak, who has this amazing story published on Daily Wire about massive fraud in Ohio. After the stories about fraud in Minnesota and in California, massive fraud going on in Ohio, specifically tied to the Somalis. And now they're threatening the life of Luke Rosiak and his family.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

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[Michael Knowles]

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[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

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[Michael Knowles]

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[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

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[Michael Knowles]

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[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

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[Michael Knowles]

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[Michael Knowles]

B, O L L a, n d branch.com knowles code knowles to unlock 15% off exclusion supply. Our own Luke Rosiak is rolling out this incredible story in the Daily Wire. We've taken down the paywall for it. You really need to follow this. Kudos to the Republicans in Congress and to the Trump administration. The vice president in particular, who is leading the fraud task force, really, really promoting this story while the establishment media are doing their best to black it out, and while the perpetrators of the crimes documented in this story are threatening our very own reporter's life.

[Interviewer in fraud segment]

You have more than 30 charges in court. I mean, that's a very long criminal record. And now you're getting paid to be the owner of a company that helps people's health. I mean, you were arrested for. For assault.

[Somali fraud suspect]

Yes, I do have a lot of records. I was just too dumb. I don't even know what is law. I put in my application the government, Medicaid, Medicare, they checked. They see all my history and they approved the business to operate.

[Interviewer in fraud segment]

I mean, you were arrested and you gave a fake name.

[Somali fraud suspect]

Yeah, I give that first name. Even that was my name. I give it. And they tried me with falsification for fake name and stuff.

[Interviewer in fraud segment]

And now you're the owner of a company that's gotten a million dollars from the government. And because the work happens in people's houses, it involves a lot of trust.

[Somali fraud suspect]

You still asking some questions that are very irrelevant and unnecessary. I already know who you are. Your parents and so forth.

[Interviewer in fraud segment]

You know my parents.

[Somali fraud suspect]

Okay. So I'm gonna have to handle you a different way.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay?

[Somali fraud suspect]

I'm calling to warn you. That's what I'm trying to do.

[Michael Knowles]

So that's a little bit of an edited snippet. We've cut out the part where the guy makes clear that that is not just an empty threat. This Somali guy that our Reporter calls, says, I know who you are. I know who you are. I know your parents. And this woman comes down at the end, hey, we're just trying to warn you. We don't wanna do this the hard way. That was not just an empty threat.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

They did know who our reporter was.

[Michael Knowles]

They did have information. And they are threatening him and they're

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

threatening his whole family.

[Michael Knowles]

Because Daily Wire's own Luke Rosiak is calling his people up and saying, hey, you're criminals. You got a rap sheet a mile long. You're bilking the taxpayer. You just you an individual for a

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

million dollars in bogus government services.

[Michael Knowles]

And that's just a drop in the bucket.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

That's just the tip of the iceberg.

[Michael Knowles]

Now, you would think 20 years ago,

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

25 years ago, I don't know, maybe

[Michael Knowles]

right at the end of the Clinton era, when the Democrats were still really trying to pretend to be normal, a story like this comes out about massive government fraud. The Democrats would have jumped on this story, even if they don't really mind welfare fraud, even if they think it helps them.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Cause they're importing a lot of foreigners and they're trying to build a permanent electoral majority.

[Michael Knowles]

At the very least. Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue. They would have at least pretended to care. Oh, yes, we're gonna get to the bottom of this. We need investigations. That's not what's happening here. In this case.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

In the year of our Lord 2026,

[Michael Knowles]

the Democrats are taking the side of the Somali criminals, the fraudsters who are bilking the taxpayers for hundreds of billions of dollars total between California and Minnesota and Ohio, and who are threatening journalists. Remember the sacred fourth estate. Remember the importance of this work of journalists who exist to uphold democracy, except when it's a conservative journalist. And then in that case, some Somali criminal threatens to murder his whole family. And the Democrats don't say a peep. When they do say something, they are speaking out in defense of the Somali criminals. We are so through the looking glass, folks. We are so past the Rubicon. I don't know how many metaphors I'm gonna have to mix. This is very dangerous, very violent stuff that is coming from the mainstream left. They are telling you this openly at every level of the government, every level of the media. And I think a lot of conservatives, maybe myself included, we want to think that's not possible. We want to just bury our heads in the sand. We want to say, no, they couldn't really mean that. They couldn't really be saying these things. They couldn't really be doing those things. They don't really want to murder Trump. They don't really want to murder us. They don't really want to bilk the taxpayer for hundreds of billions of dollars

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

and give it to foreign criminals.

[Michael Knowles]

But they do. But they do. And they've told us this ad nauseum, ad infinitum.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

They've told us this.

[Michael Knowles]

Do we believe that? And do we believe it enough to get past our petty squabbles and get past our disappointments, whatever, and unify to keep these people out of power? It's not just that. This is not your, this is not your grandma's Democrat Party, we sometimes say this is not the Democratic Party of six years ago. This is Barack Obama's Democrat Party. But Obama was this real transitional figure where he pretended to be the moderate milquetoast liberal, but in fact he was quite a radical who's publishing videos with a guy who's openly calling for the murder of President Trump. Now. Speaking of exposure, you know what today is, don't you?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Today is disclosure day.

[Michael Knowles]

The Trump administration is reportedly, at the

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

behest of Congress, going to be releasing

[Michael Knowles]

all sorts of materials on UFOs. Now they call them UAPs, aliens, ET coming out today, you have all these

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

people really building this up in the press for weeks and weeks and weeks.

[Michael Knowles]

One strange phenomenon. So all these pastors coming out, all of these pastors that no one's ever heard of coming out and saying that they were being briefed by the government on how to prepare the church, how to prepare their flock for the shocking revelations to come out of the disclosure of ET

[Pastor discussing UFO disclosure]

this year there is coming a massive disclosure. The truth as the government knows it about UFOs and UAPs is going to be disclosed to the population. The Trump administration is going to attempt to make history in an historic announcement where they're going to say that these non terrestrial interdimensional beings are real and that we do have unexplained phenomenon among us. This is going to be huge. Many so called Christians are going to be taken captive by it. We have got to speak on this first. It's time for every single pastor to teach on this. What does the Bible say about non human entities? Now you have noticed that the language has changed in these Department of Defense meetings as well as in these congressional hearings. They're no longer saying extraterrestrial, they're saying non human entities. Are there non human entities in the Bible who attempt to influence mankind? The answer to the question is yes.

[Michael Knowles]

So this is like the most sane version of the pastors coming out and discussing this that I've seen. There are some saying, oh, I met in a trailer, the government came to me. I met in a trailer in the middle of Tennessee and they're telling us we need to prepare the flocks.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

And this is all that.

[Michael Knowles]

So at a very basic level, what he's saying about non human intelligence jiving with the Bible is totally right. I don't think aliens really jive with the Bible.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

I don't think, I don't know.

[Michael Knowles]

The church has never definitively ruled on

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

it, but I don't really buy aliens. Et.

[Michael Knowles]

But non human intelligence, of course I believe that. Of course there are angels and demons, there is God and Christ is a

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

man, he's fully man and also fully God. So obviously there's non human intelligence.

[Michael Knowles]

Indeed it is a non human intelligence that made us though it's a non

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

human intelligence that is united with human nature in the Incarnation.

[Michael Knowles]

Nevertheless, there are people warning that some of the disclosure is going to contradict the Bible.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

It's going to make Christians rethink the Bible. It's going to.

[Michael Knowles]

And that one cannot be true.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

If you're a believing Christian, you shouldn't be afraid of the disclosure. You should be skeptical of it, but you shouldn't be afraid of the disclosure.

[Michael Knowles]

Because we believe that our religion is true. And one of the proofs of the

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

truth of our religion is that it

[Michael Knowles]

is not just arrived at through deductive

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

reasoning or private revelation, but that God

[Michael Knowles]

reveals himself in history, in the act of the Incarnation, in the Nativity and in the Crucifixion and in the resurrection. St. Paul tells us if the Resurrection is false, then we are most to be pitied. But we take it as a fact that our religion is true. And unlike other religion, other religions, religious traditions, is proven throughout history that we can see it and God leaves us

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

a visible church and all the rest.

[Michael Knowles]

So we don't need to be afraid of this. I know some people from certain religious traditions, they're really afraid of scientific discovery. They really come out strongly against certain scientific theories and, and I can at least speak as a mackerel snapping papist. The Catholic Church doesn't do this. The Catholic Church has had an astronomical observatory for centuries. It was indeed a Catholic priest who first theorized the Big Bang, which was called the Big Bang because it was being mocked for supposedly vindicating the Genesis account of creation, that God created something out of nothing. Father Georges Lemaitre who discovered or theorized the Big Bang said that he didn't

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

want to delve into the theological implications

[Michael Knowles]

of it, but that's why people called

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

it the Big Bang. It was a term of derision.

[Michael Knowles]

So we don't need to be afraid of this, but we should be pretty skeptical. I'm gonna make a prediction now. I'm gonna make a prediction. As far as I know, the disclosure has not happened yet. Everyone's really, really excited about it. I predict that it will be nothing. I predict that it will be a big bunch of nothing, that there will be no proof of ET that it will not contradict the Bible, that everyone

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

is waiting for a big nothing. Now, my colleague Matt Walsh is very pro alien. I don't know, maybe he's waiting on

[Michael Knowles]

tenterhooks, I don't know. But I'm laying my prediction out now. The disclosure, which will happen any minute, we'll talk about it on Monday, will be nothing. Now the one uncomfortable thing here is that that prediction puts me on the same page as Barack Obama, who previously said aliens do exist. He said this on a podcast and then now he was grilled on this by Stephen Colbert.

[Barack Obama]

He says, no, no, no, no, no. I was just kidding.

[Michael Knowles]

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

[Barack Obama]

There's no such thing as aliens.

[Stephen Colbert]

Earlier this year you said of aliens, yes, quote, they're real, but I haven't seen them. Then you tried to walk it back the next day. You know, no one believed you. Right?

[Interviewer or Moderator]

I thought it was so obvious what I meant.

[Michael Knowles]

Uh huh.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Yes.

[Stephen Colbert]

Oh, it was obvious what you meant, but we all got the message.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Here's the thing.

[Stephen Colbert]

Uh huh.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

For those of you who still think that, you know, we've got little green men underground somewhere.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Yeah.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

One of the things you learn as president you is government is terrible at keeping secrets. This idea of conspiracy theories, if there were aliens or alien spaceships or anything under the control of the United States government that we knew about, seen photographs, what have you, I promise you, some guy guarding the installation would have taken a selfie with one of the aliens and send it to his girlfriend to impress him. It would leak.

[Stephen Colbert]

Or there'd be like hints. There'd be like certain hints out there. Like a presidential center would look like a scout ship that's just come down from landed in Chicago. That would happen.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

Something like that. It could happen. Okay.

[Stephen Colbert]

Do you wish they were real?

[Interviewer or Moderator]

I actually do.

[Michael Knowles]

I actually do. Okay, that's. I was agreeing with Obama for the first time in my life.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

I was agreeing with Obama until that very last bit.

[Michael Knowles]

I hate to say it, mark it down in history. I agreed with Obama.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Shoot me.

[Michael Knowles]

Okay? Don't shoot me.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

I know the libs want to shoot all of us.

[Michael Knowles]

Don't do that. I did agree with Obama. I did, okay until this thing.

[Barack Obama]

I do wish aliens were real.

[Michael Knowles]

I see why they, the libs and the secularists, wish that. In popular culture, people wish that aliens

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

are real because they have a disenchanted view of the world.

[Michael Knowles]

In the Middle Ages, people didn't wish

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

that aliens were real.

[Michael Knowles]

In modernity, we wish that aliens are

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

real because we've decided that angels and demons aren't real. Because we've decided that God isn't real. Because we've decided that meaning and love and the eternal soul, because we've decided that all of these things that we

[Michael Knowles]

infer from the creation that we know

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

deep down exist, we've decided that they're not real. So we need something marvelous and we

[Michael Knowles]

just make it materialist.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

We just call them aliens.

[Michael Knowles]

But aliens are not real, and angels

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

and demons are real.

[Michael Knowles]

One last thing. I know I'm running late. I don't care. One last thing from that Obama interview that is much more relevant to all of us. Barack Obama had the temerity to come out and lament that this Republican Party

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

is very, very different from the old Republican Party and that he wishes. He wishes that he's so concerned about the Republican Party that we could just return to the good old days.

[Interviewer or Moderator]

You're right. The Presidential center is nonpartisan. And the reason I want to mention that is because I'm worried about the Republican Party, not just the Democratic Party. When I was president, people would ask me, what change would you like to see in Washington? I'd say, I'd love a loyal opposition. I'd love a Republican Party that was conservative in some ways, that didn't agree with me on a whole bunch of stuff, but believed in rule of law and judicial independence and empirical, Empirical evidence and science and wasn't constantly tapping into our worst impulses. And there has been a Republican Party like that in the past. And I want to see that returned, because I think you have to have two healthy parties.

[Michael Knowles]

Barack Obama, who said in May of

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

2011, he said, Some people want me

[Michael Knowles]

to issue an executive amnesty without the

[Barack Obama]

involvement of Congress, but I can't do that. That's not how democracy works.

[Michael Knowles]

One year later, he issued the executive amnesty for 835,000 illegal aliens that he himself had already admitted was unconstitutional. He has the temerity to Talk about

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

the rule of law. If only we had the rule of law.

[Michael Knowles]

If only we had judicial independence. This man's party, this man who broke

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

a lot of tradition by at the

[Michael Knowles]

State of the Union, criticizing the Supreme

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Court for a decision in Citizens United to allow free speech in elections.

[Michael Knowles]

And this man, whose Senate Majority Leader, Chuck Schumer, went out and threatened Supreme

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Court justices, one of whom had a liberal from California show up at his house and try to kill him and potentially his whole family. He said, if only we had a loyal opposition, weren't threatening the rule of law.

[Michael Knowles]

The gall is shocking, but the longing is real. What is he really longing for?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

He's not longing for a Republican Party that supports the rule of law. We've restored the rule of law. He's not longing for a Republican Party that respects judicial independence. The Republicans, the conservatives, have been far more in favor of judicial independence than

[Michael Knowles]

the Democrats, who have been rather activist, than the Democrats who infamously, going back now some 80, 90 years, famously threatened to destroy the Supreme Court if they didn't rubber stamp FDR's New Deal programs,

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

which they had been regularly, rightly pointing out were unconstitutional.

[Michael Knowles]

What Barack Obama is longing for is an ineffective Republican Party.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

That's what he's saying. He's concerned because the Republican Party wins. We have unified government now. The Republican Party won the popular vote for the first time in 20 years thanks to President Trump. The Republican Party is on the right side of all of the issue, virtually all of the issues, according to public opinion polls.

[Michael Knowles]

And the Democrats are so politically frustrated that they have now resorted openly to

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

calls to kill us,

[Michael Knowles]

to say nothing

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

of packing the Supreme Court

[Michael Knowles]

undermining election

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

rules and the like.

[Michael Knowles]

That's what he says.

[Barack Obama]

I just wish we'd get back. I'm concerned. I want a good Republican Party that can always lose, but that can legitimize the Democrat Party rule. Because if we just take power and we kill all our enemies, then we're gonna look like we're tyrants. We're gonna look like autocrats. So what we need is a Republican Party that is a Potemkin Party is a Republican Party that seems like it's an opposition, but actually just rolls over and does whatever we say. That's what I long for.

[Michael Knowles]

Yeah, sorry, we're not giving it to you.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

We're gonna be the Republican Party that wins. We're gonna be the Republican Party that wields power. We're gonna be the Republican Party that deports a lot of people. We're gonna be the Republican party that prosecutes guys in your party who commit crimes. That's the Republican Party.

[Michael Knowles]

We're gonna be or There is no

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

need for a Republican Party.

[Michael Knowles]

There's a lot more to say first

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

though, go to hallow.com knowles K N A W L E S It's May. May means it's mental health month. And with everything going on in the world today, most people could use some help on that front. We hear a lot about mindfulness and stress reduction. Well, you know what?

[Michael Knowles]

We don't hear a ton about prayer.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

How prayer specifically is good in itself. Cause you should talk to God. But two prayer has been shown to reduce stress, improve mental health, and even lower cortisol levels. What's amazing is actually when you pray the rosary, it syncs up your breathing with your cardiovascular rhythm. It's quite amazing and I highly recommend you do it. And you should check out Hallow. Hallow is introducing a new prayer challenge this month called the Detachment challenge. If a man is feeling stretched thin, juggling responsibilities, expectations, constant demands for his attention, he's not alone.

[Michael Knowles]

I gotta tell you, this week I feel it. I feel it more than usual. Maybe you do too. This time of year only adds to it.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Detachment doesn't mean caring less. It means letting go of what he cannot control and placing it in God's hands because his work, his family, and his responsibilities matter. But they were never meant to carry the full weight of his heart. Through simple daily prayer and reflection, this challenge helps him find real peace. Not based on circumstances, but rooted in trust. I love Hallow. It's wonderful. It's a reason that it's totally taken over the app store right now. Go to hallow.com knowles k n o w l e S or download the Hallow app and join for 3 months free hallow.comknowles for 3 months free.

[Michael Knowles]

My favorite comment yesterday is from Holly xq4ej who says my vote has been with Pratt daddy since he threw his hat in the ring.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Go Spencer. This, of course is the Republican running for mayor of Los Angeles, Pratt Daddy. Is that gonna be his new nickname?

[Michael Knowles]

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[Caller Arun]

Good morning, Michael. This is Arun. So I want to get your take on the recent pair of groiper candidates in the midterm primaries. Specifically Casey Putsch who called Vivek a foreign invader who should be shot and for some reason glazes Hitler and has beer hall rallies And James Fishback, who calls his opponent Byron Donald's racial slurs that I probably shouldn't repeat on your show. Now, at least in Putsch's case, he was categorically rejected by Republican voters. Primary. And it looks like James Fishback is going to do even worse. So I'm curious, why do you think these two people are taking actions that serve no other purpose than to malign Republicans as racist when we are going into a general election that we need to win? Thank you, as always, for your wisdom.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

Excellent question, Arun, because it allows me to make the point, you know, how much I hate to say I told you so. It allows me to make the point

[Michael Knowles]

that I might be the most vindicated man in podcasting. You know, I hate to brag, but I think I might be the most

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

vindicated man in podcasting because when all

[Michael Knowles]

the podcast wars were going on, with

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

all the radicalism and the sensationalism and a lot of insults and the supposed

[Michael Knowles]

civil war that the podcasters represented within the Republican Party, I came out as the voice of one crying in the wilderness. And I caught so much flack for it from everybody. I came out and I said, I don't think that this is a politically serious phenomenon. I think this is a media phenomenon. I think it is a phenomenon that might change views and clicks, but it doesn't really change votes. It is meta political, not properly political. It doesn't really have to do with the things that we all say that we're doing, which is trying to win elections, pass policies, and advance the common

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

good of the people.

[Michael Knowles]

I said, I think this is kind of a distraction and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be dragged down into it. And I was 100% correct. I was 150% correct about this. I got a question actually about this at tpusa.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

I was there with Matt at University of Idaho when Erica very kindly invited us to do one of the stops on the TPUSA tour.

[Michael Knowles]

And someone said, michael, you've claimed that

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

a lot of this, the kind of

[Michael Knowles]

podcast war stuff is not really all that politically serious.

[Somali fraud suspect]

But.

[Michael Knowles]

But James Fishback, who is one of the candidates you're referencing in Florida, he's running for governor. And I said, right, he's running for governor. He's polling at like 2%. So that totally makes my point. The guy who was just running, where was that?

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

I don't even remember his name. Kasie, push.

[Michael Knowles]

The guy who was running in Ohio, the fake blew him out of the water. It wasn't even close. And so what Is this really about. Well, I don't think, as you're suspecting, Arun, I don't think it's that these are sleeper cell Democrat candidates who are being sent here by the CIA to undermine the Republicans chances. I don't think it's that. I think that my thesis is still right. My thesis is obviously right, but I think it's like fully right. I think it's comprehensively right. Not just that the podcast war clickbait kind of edgelord posting is not properly political, but that even the candidates who are running in this way are really doing media.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

They're really chasing clicks more than they're chasing votes. Which is fine, I guess. I'm in media, I'm in political media,

[Michael Knowles]

so I get it. I don't really do that so much, but I get it. But they're playing a different game.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

The incentives of people who are doing media, especially new media, are just different from the incentives of the people who are doing politics, who are running for office, who are trying to pass laws.

[Michael Knowles]

So the candidates who run this way are gonna get a ton of heat online, they're gonna get a ton of

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

clicks, a ton of views, they can launch podcasts, they can go on shows, they can whatever, but they're not gonna win votes and they're not gonna win elections. And I don't even think that's really what they're after. Okay, next question. Hey, Michael, Giorgio here. Since the left is obviously trying to kill us and wants us dead, when is armed resistance?

[Michael Knowles]

Hello, Federal agent? Yes, hello. Hello from federal agent. 325. Hey, Michael, when are we gonna go murder the Democrats? I don't think we should do that.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

I think that would be a bad

[Michael Knowles]

idea because

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

violence properly belongs to the civil authority. Vigilantism is wrong, and revolution is wrong

[Michael Knowles]

in virtually all cases. If what you're saying is the libs are trying to kill us and therefore at a certain point it could get bad enough that we need to take

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

up arms against them.

[Michael Knowles]

What is that point? I'd say that point would be when

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

the civil authority is in total collapse. This draws on just war tradition, as we've spoken about a lot lately, especially in regard to the Iran war. This draws from St. Thomas Aquinas, who. It's been several hours since I've mentioned St. Thomas, but it's not that one can never take up arms against a tyrannical power, but it has to be really extreme.

[Michael Knowles]

And even in that case, a revolution

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

needs to be undertaken according to the principles of subsidiarity.

[Michael Knowles]

So by some form of authority. In fact that is how the American Revolution took place.

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

It's one of the things that distinguished it from the French Revolution. But if you're asking when should we pick up our guns and start slaughtering

[Michael Knowles]

the libs, the answer is basically never. Or at the most extreme situation you would have to have the entire collapse

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

anything resembling a civil authority.

[Michael Knowles]

You'd have to be in Mad Max basically for that to make sense. Okay, much more to get to written mailbag call in mailbag but the time

[Co-host/Producer (possibly Ken or Kenna)]

has come for the membrane segmentum. We have a very very intense fake headline Friday today cause I ended my six month winning streak last week. I'm still smarting from that. The rest of the show continues. Now we'll see if I can get my mojo back. You do not want to miss it. Become a member. Use code knowleskanawles at checkout for two months free on all annual plans.

[Narrator or voice actor for Old Negro Space Program parody]

Sam.