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Ep. 1992 - "Chimping Out" Girl Goes Viral Amid Karmelo Anthony Protests
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Start your free trial@shopify.com Racial tensions boil over after Carmelo Anthony is sentenced to 35 years, just 17 and a half of which he will be obligated to serve for the cold blooded murder of 17 year old Austin Metcalf at a high school track meet. Now, you might expect racial tensions to be spiking on the victim's behalf due to the murderer's relatively light sentence, but you would be wrong. It's in fact, the racial strife is coming from black public figures, major public figures, elected office entertainment, from people who insist that the murderer is somehow the victim. All of which has prompted a smaller, though still pronounced response from white people, typified by a girl who just went viral for calling black people the N word and accusing them of chimping out. We will explain the source of and solution to the latest race war. Then an explosive new development in the never ending Jeffrey Epstein saga. After months of hearing that Epstein did not in fact run a blackmail ring. That whatever else he was up to on that island, he wasn't actually blackmailing his rich and famous Associates. One of the richest and most famous associates of Jeffrey Epstein. Bill Gates testifies before Congress that Epstein was in fact blackmailing him. So the question comes front and center again. Who and what was Jeffrey Epstein working for? And speaking of crime, even more evidence emerges, this time on video of Democrats stealing the election from Spencer Pratt in la. Watch it before the powers that be scrub it from the Internet. I'm Michael Knowles, this is Michael Knowles Show. Welcome back to the show. The first minister of Northern Ireland is blaming Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson for bringing this onto our streets. This referring to the beheading, the near beheading when a Sudanese migrant nearly beheaded an Irishman in Belfast. She's blaming Elon and Tommy cuz they're tweeting about it. Much like Norm MacDonald when he was thinking of the Bill Cosby case, he said, you know, I don't think the hypocrisy is the worst part. I think it was the raping. I don't think the tweeting was the worst part. I think it was the beheading. I think that was actually that was the problem on the streets. Anyway, we'll get to all of that momentarily. First though, Jasmine Crockett. Jasmine Crockett gets hit up in D.C. in the Capitol by TMZ. TMZ has a new D.C. bureau, I guess, and I quite like it actually because DC is tabloid enough and TMZ is actually doing pretty good journalism here. They asked Jasmine Crockett, rising Democrat star in Congress. They said, hey, what is your reaction to the Carmelo Anthony verdict and sentencing? Carmelo Anthony convicted of murder after he just murdered the 17 year old kid in cold blood. Sentenced to 35 years. He'll have to serve about half of that. Here's her response. Rep. Crockett, you might have seen that Carmelo Anthony was sentenced for 35 years. I wanted to get your reaction to the trial and the verdict.
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My heart breaks for so many reasons. And what we saw with that verdict is the evidence of a broken system. Carmelo ended up stabbing, puncturing. I don't know what this tool was that they talk about knife or some refer to it as a tool. He ended up in Austin one time and it was about where he hit him one time, two inches. This wasn't someone who said, hey, let me stab you five, six, seven times. And so when you're looking at the punishment range, there's a reason in Texas that it goes from 5 to 99 or life because you are looking at how intentional, like how bad was this 35 years for a kid who had decided to go under a tent that was not his team's tent as it was raining and simply didn't want to be put out in the rain by some random kid that he didn't know who was larger than him. Listen, a lot of people don't know what it is to live as a black person in this country.
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Okay? I think she's leaving out a little bit of a detail because she said that the crime for which Carmelo Anthony was convicted was he just wanted to sit in a tent out of the rain. That's the news story. They made up the story about Michael Brown, Gentle Giant and Ferguson kneeling down. Please, officer, don't shoot me. He was executing cold blood. Obviously. Totally made up. They make up the stories about all the BLM examples. Well, here, Carmelo Anthony was just trying to get out of the rain. Now, of course, that's not true. He goes into the wrong tent. He intentionally. He sits there, he provokes everyone around him. He won't get out of the guy's chair. And then he is just waiting for an excuse to pull out a knife and stab this guy. And then her defense of him is, well, he only stabbed him once. That's her actual defense. This is a sitting member of Congress. You're telling me he's getting 35 years. He only stabbed him once in the heart. It's not like that's. I can't even do a riff on it. I can't even do a bit about it. That's almost verbatim what she says. I mean, I could understand maybe she. If he stabbed him five, six, seven times. But he only stabbed him in the heart once. He only unprovoked. This Carmelo Anthony only stabbed a 17 year old kid in the heart unprovoked one time with, I mean, a tool or. I mean, some people are calling it a knife. Yeah, it's called a knife. That's just what it's called. It's not that. Some people call it that and others call it a spatula. It's a knife is what it is. What's so amazing about her reaction is that for the first part, you agree with her. She says, oh, I was just so. It was so sad. It was so heartbreaking to see that verdict. And I say, I agree, obviously for the victim, I even agree to some part, at least for the murderer, in that he threw his life away for nothing and probably had a terrible family and probably had a bad upbringing, or he might have just been a bad kid. But Regardless, he threw his life away. And that in itself is sad. And on top of that, what's so sad, what's so heartbreaking about it, what is such an evidence of injustice is that he only got 35 years. Austin Metcalfe doesn't get any more years. Austin Metcalf's family doesn't get any more years with their son and their brother. He was killed in cold blood over nothing. Because this kid goes into his tent, takes his seat, sits there and says, make me move. Make me move. Provoking Austin Metcalf. Austin Metcalf barely touches him. And this lunatic, premeditated, obviously reaches in, grabs a knife and stabs him in the heart and kills him. You only get 35 years for that, by the way. He's only gonna serve half of that time before he's up for parole. This guy should at least get life in prison. At least. Justice would seem to suggest he should get a lot more than that. And so you agree with Jasmine Crockett, and then she gets to this whole thing. No, Come on. Black people need to be given at least two free stabs. The third stab maybe you get a slap on the wrist for. But you at least get two free ones because it's so hard being a black person in America. That's where she concludes. That's her final point she makes. It's so hard being a black person in America. Sometimes we just gotta stab innocent white teenagers, you know? And to be punished for that, that's crazy. It's just so hard, isn't it? And by the way, those weren't her worst comments on the stabbing. Here is Jasmine Crockett elsewhere weighing in. You wanna talk about premeditation? It's not like these were just off the cuff, stupid Rem. She's thought about this. This is her opinion.
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Black women, especially black women who have black male children, live in fear and agony every single day. A fear and agony that I promise you. The Metcalfs probably never spent a day
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living that way, man. You know, I have a moderate amount of affection for Jasmine Crockett because she code switches and she's clearly a sociopathic politician. And sometimes she speaks in a perfectly normal way. Sometimes she puts on this kind of minstrel show of Ebonics to appeal to different demographics. And I think she's more reasonable than she lets on. But this is totally nauseating. The Metcalfes lose their son, who is completely innocent, no ambiguity whatsoever, to a cold blooded murderer named Carmelo Anthony. But because Carmelo Anthony's black, and Austin Metcalfe's white. She says that actually it's the black people. It's the black women who are the real victims here. And she has the temerity to contrast black women who are supposedly the most put upon people in the world to the parents who just had their son murdered. And she says, no. Hey, parents who just had your son murdered? Yeah. Before I take the side of the murderer, I just wanna point out you're not the victim. Yeah. Every black woman in America has suffered more than you. Why? I don't know. We can't quite put our finger on it. It's not that white people commit violent crimes against black people at a high rate. Not even close. It's not that. It's not that racist cops are always gunning down innocent black people. That basically never happens either. But just this kind of vague suggestion that black, not just black people, but black women are the most put upon people in the world. That is why you cannot have any sympathy for the Metcalfs whose son was murdered in cold blood. The Metcalfes, by the way, are receiving death threats. The Metcalfs, this is being reported also in tmz. They're receiving death threats because their son was murdered and their killer got effectively a slap on the wrist. It's not just Jasmine Crockett, Cardi b reacting to the verdict, says, wow. Just freaking wow. Disgusting. This is not justice. This is trying to make an example. This is the problem. This is one of the problems with getting rid of the death penalty in a lot of places. This is one of the problems with not pursuing justice to the fullest extent of the law. This is one of the problems with letting him off with 35 years, really 17 and a half years, is. It changes people's perception of the seriousness of the crime. The punishment for felonies in America used to be death. For, like, any felony, you would hang for it. Now you can murder a kid in cold blood and you'll be out by the time you're 35. You got your whole life ahead of you. This the best argument that the defense made on behalf of Carmelo Anthony is that Austin Metcalf stabbed himself. I'm not even exaggerating. That was the best argument they tried to make. Oh, he just sort of tripped into the knife that my client was just sort of accidentally holding while he was sitting in this kid's seat, provoking him. Yeah, he just. He stabbed himself. Jasmine Crockett, mercifully for Carmelo Anthony was not his defense attorney. Her argument is that a knife isn't really a knife. Her argument is she doesn't know what a knife is. As some people are calling it a knife. Yeah. As some people call this a candle. As some people call this a microphone. Yeah. People with knowledge call it that. People with eyeballs and even semi functioning cerebral cortex call it that. This is bad. And it has provoked a reaction from the other side such that now the most viral video going out of the Austin Metcalf killing and the Carmelo Anthony sentencing is this young white girl calling black people the N word and accusing them of chimping out. We'll get to that momentarily. First though, I want to tell you about Catholic match. Go to catholicmatch.com the most important decision, the most people will ever make apart from their relationship with God, is who they will marry. 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This was going to play on people's racial tensions or inclinations or desires that they can't express. And also what's notable about it is this girl is saying exactly what Chud the Builder said. Do you remember Chud the Builder? We talked about him on the show right around the time he was arrested. He's gonna spend a lot of time in prison now for shooting somebody. Chud the Builder went viral on social media. His whole shtick was calling black people the N word and accusing them of chimping out. So it was verbatim exactly what this girl is doing. And so Elijah Schaefer and this girl whose name, I don't have her name written down, but whoever she is, she's about to be very famous or infamous. They basically just they copied the exact media playbook of Chud the Builder. They said, well, word for Chud the Builder. What if we make Chud the Builder young and female and good looking, but we do exactly the same thing, we'll go even more viral. And guess what? It worked precisely right. They were totally right about it. They succeeded at at their endeavor. Probably not great for the state of political discourse. But I commented when Shud the Builder was going viral for just randomly going out calling black people the N word, accusing them of chimping out. I said this is the apotheosis of right wing political commentary. The apotheosis of left wing political commentary is Hasan Piker is just leftists calling for the murder of right wingers. And the apotheosis of right wing political commentary is just going out saying transgressive racial slurs and provoking people and triggering them. And that's just. It's not real political commentary. In as much as none of this has anything to do with real political issues, it has only the most tenuous relationship to real political issues. It's the hyper real version of it. You say, what politicians do you support? Do you support Rick Scott or do you support Rand Paul or me? What are you talking about? I support that racist chick who accused black people of chimping out. I'm a chud. The builder Republican. Oh, me? What do you mean? Do I support John Ossoff or Hillary Clinton? No, no, no. I'm a Hasan Piker Democrat. I want to murder all the conservatives. It's just a. It's a hyper real version of political commentary which gets a lot of clicks and it gets a lot of views, but it doesn't really have any connection to political organizing, which is a problem because we're just expending all of our energy on entertainment rather than on actual political effect, which I get it. Look, I work in the political media. I get it. I see it up close. I participated in it to some degree. I like to keep a little more focus on the real political issues. But the incentives. I've talked about this for months and months and months. The incentives for the political media and the incentives for the actual politician class, they've totally diverged, man. They were aligned in 2024. They have totally diverged. We are now in the world of politics consisting of Hasan Piker torturing his dog and some cute white chick calling black people the N word. And that is choose your fighter. That's political commentary. Okay. By the way, these racial tensions are not just boiling over in the US you see this also in the UK and in Europe, of course, as well. In Northern Ireland, the first minister, Michelle o', Neill, is reacting to this beheading. Did you see this beheading video of the Sudanese migrant who exploited a loophole in Europe to then cross the border into Northern Ireland? So he's in the UK just beheading a guy from Belfast. Do we have it? Yeah. No. No, he's not. You see him there? He's just screaming on the guy's chest, trying to rip. I think the guy is still alive, last I checked at least, but it's pretty brutal. He's got multiple stab wounds to the face. So the first Minister, Michelle o', Neill reacts and she places a lot of blame, not at the feet of the Sudanese murderer, but at the feet of Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson.
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So many people saw that image. I wish people didn't see that image, but unfortunately many people did. But it was absolutely horrific. But there are bad actors that are jumping on this and actually using it to stir up hate and tension and people who don't even know who we are. We're not a racist people here. People who don't even know where we are on a map. But yet, no, we see the likes of the Elon Musk's this World or we see the Tommy Robinson this World, the keyboard warriors who are sitting very comfy in their homes orchestrating hate and tension and bringing this onto our streets and encouraging us onto our streets. So I don't think, I think people need to be alert to that. Who's behind us, like these protests that have been organized. If they're that smart about their protests, why can't they put their face to it? Because they can't. Because these protests have been organized by face as thugs, in my opinion.
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Yeah, this is. Look, we're not a racist people. The first thing I want to make clear to all of you, well, we have Sudanese migrants chopping off the heads of the Irishman. I just want to make one thing perfectly clear. We are not racist. That's the most, I think the most important thing to establish before we move on at all is that we are not racist. I think it's good not to be racist, that is to say, not to hate other races, not to judge them unjustly, you know, to have unjust prejudices. But racism isn't the worst thing in the world. And notably white people are the least racist people on planet earth. Just every public opinion survey shows it. It seems to me once again to invoke our friend Norm MacDonald. The big problem in Ireland, Northern Ireland right now is not the racism, it's really the beheadings, I would say that's the problem. The big problem in the UK broadly right now, it's not the racism against migrants, it's the stabbing 18 year old white guys unprovoked as they're walking back from the pub and then having the police take your side and joke with you, the murderer as the white victim is bleeding out. I would say that's probably the problem. I wish people hadn't seen the video. You wish they hadn't seen the video because it's so gruesome and gory or you wish people hadn't seen the video so they wouldn't react to it. She actually accuses Elon and Tommy Robinson of bringing this to their streets. Funny, I thought it was the British politicians and the European politicians and to some degree the American politicians who brought this to our streets because they're the ones who brought in all of the people doing the beheadings. And when there was a reaction to that, it's understandable. We do have two problems. This is where the libs are kind of right. Racial strife in a country is a problem. I don't mean that in this kind of like hippie dippy. You know, racism's the worst thing kind of. I mean, just as a political matter, when you have demographic groups that don't like each other based on their unchangeable traits, that creates a political problem for you. You're not gonna flourish if you have that situation. So the left wing version is to say, okay, well, we just need to treat that symptom. We need to treat that symptom and then we'll all get along and it'll all be hunky dory. Whereas the right wing looks at this and says, okay, well we have a problem. One, we're being flooded by migrants that we don't want, that we the people have voted to keep out time and time again and the government's totally ignored us, so the government's unresponsive. That creates a political problem. And two, some of these migrants or some of these different demographic groups, whether we're talking about the uk, Northern Ireland, Europe or the US they're stabbing and beheading people. And there's a huge racial element to it. And you're not dealing with the problem because you have a two tiered system of justice that in the United States says white people are gonna be treated and judged more harshly than non white people. And in the UK says basically the same thing, albeit that the non white groups are a little bit different. And so I guess I would say as a sensible common sense conservative, you're always going to get the chud, the builder girl. You're always gonna get someone who is saying the unsayable thing that transgresses the racial taboos in a circumstance where there's mounting racial strife that no one's able to talk about. So if you don't wanna get the chud, the builder girl, if you don't wanna get to a more defensible degree, Elon Musk and Tommy Robinson just pointing out the political problem with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of People coming out into the street. And if you don't want black people then, or non white people to go out and hate white people and try to take the side of murderers, if you basically want to just bring down all of the racial strife, there's one very simple thing you can do which is enforce the law and enforce the law fairly. This is exactly the opposite of what the UK did. The UK came out explicitly and said, we have a race action plan. We're not going to have racial equality, we're not going to enforce the law equally. We don't want colorblindness. We're going to be harsher to white people than to non white people. In the US we effectively have the same system. We have the same system in college admissions and in employment where we say we're gonna give an unfair advantage to black people over white people or Hispanic people over white people and Asian people. But even in policing, there's a lot of looking the other way because we don't want to continue to have a disproportionate number of black men in prison or whatever. And it's just. It's bad for everybody. It's bad for black people, it's bad for white people, it's bad for victims, it's bad for murderers. A lesson that we get all the way back to the ancient Greeks, which is that when you don't punish a criminal, you don't do that person any favors because they need to be corrected. The vast majority of the time, you're not doing that criminal any favors and the strife is only gonna build and you're gonna get a lot more chud the builder girl. Okay? Speaking of subverting our politics, there is now video coming out to back up a lot of anecdotal claims that the libs might have stolen that election from Spencer Pratt in la. We'll get to that momentarily. First though, I want to tell you about Mount Titano Media. 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She didn't even come in in the top four. But now you want me to believe that Nidia Rahman Last minute won 40% of the mail in votes for the rest of the city, but she couldn't even carry her own district? I don't believe that for a second. So what does that imply? What that implies is that Democrat activists went around and harvested ballots and perhaps forged ballots or bought ballots to beef up Nidiaraman, who nobody likes to make sure that Spencer Pratt was not in the runoff, to make sure he had zero percent chance of becoming mayor of la. Because so people, when we make that observation, people say you're a conspiracy theorist. Where's your facts? Where's your evidence? Well, here's a little bit of evidence. This by way of California post.
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You live in skid row.
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I live in skid row.
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And then would they come down here and try and pay you to vote yes on a ballot?
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Yes.
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How much they pay you?
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$5.
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They said, here, come and vote for these candidates.
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Yes, sir.
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They told you who to vote for. So they told you to vote for Karen Bass or Cynthia Rahman.
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Karen Bass.
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You vote for Karen bass?
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Yeah.
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For $5. Did you vote?
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Yeah.
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You did for Karen Bass?
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Yeah.
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Karen. They told you to vote for Karen?
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Yeah, they had to sign the thing.
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And how much they pay you?
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It was like two bucks.
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Two bucks or the sign off on a thing to go Bird?
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Yeah.
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So they say, oh, do you want to vote for Karen or Nithya? Or they just really just tell you to vote for Karen, huh?
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Man, they gave you an optionable choice, but they tell me who they want you.
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They tell you who you want to vote for. It's like, yo, we'll give you two dollars. And. But you got to vote for one of these people.
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Well, you know, I. I'm. I'm a barter man.
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So I got photos and you're like, yo, give me four bucks and I'll do it. Yeah, why not? So they do this for everybody out here?
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Yeah, they come out here.
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How often do they come down here?
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Probably like three times a week.
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Three times a week to get the ballots?
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Yup.
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Wow. Absolutely. You know other people too, that voted too.
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Anybody's registered? Okay, so they're laying out what happens. These guys come down, they say, we'll give you two bucks. Fill out this form, either register or vote for this person. And I know, I can already hear what the libs are going to say. They're going to say, well, yeah, sure, they're all saying that. And I know maybe there's a little history of that within the Democrat Party going back to the middle of the 19th century, but you have no evidence that they actually did it. What, man, you're gonna believe crackheads? How do you know that that journalist didn't just pay those guys to say whatever he wanted them to say? Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. Sure, why not? Thankfully, we have James o', Keefe, who has come out, done an undercover investigation to actually film these ballot harvesters paying people to register.
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The petitioner, Brenda Brown, hands cash money to the homeless person not only for signing the California ballot initiative, but also as payment for them to register to vote.
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Now, because you haven't registered, I need to register you so I can get paid too. Okay, you guys, I need to get paid.
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That is a federal felony. And it didn't just happen once. It happened over and over and over again. We personally witnessed and covertly filmed this happening at least 28 times over the span of our investigation, and that is just in Los angeles.
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Okay, so 28 times in this brief investigation. On top of that, we know thousands of homeless voters were registered to vote at LA shelters, even though many of those people did not live at the shelters and many of the shelters didn't have any beds, so they didn't. They're saying that they lived there because you need to be registered to a physical address. And we also know that one drop in center, one of these homeless shelters received $600,000 from Nidia Raman, the socialist candidate who beat out Spencer Pratt. They had 185 registered voters at that address. They offer no accommodations whatsoever. So I don't know, maybe they're all standing up all night. Maybe they live on the floor. This is just what they do. This is what they do. We need to do a video on this because the Democrats have stolen elections for a long time. They've rigged elections for a long time, but they haven't really changed their tactics. Whether we're talking about the dead rabbit in New York, whether we're talking about Tammany hall, whether we're talking about the Daily Machine in Chicag, whether we're talking about the Johnson machine in Texas. 1848. Sorry, 1948. Stole the Texas Senate seat, went on to become president. The playbook is always the same. You vote with dead voters. You vote with immigrants, some of whom are not eligible to vote. You pay people to vote. You forge absentee ballots, you harvest absentee ballots. You stuff the ballot box and you win. They've been doing this for all, well over 100 years, but now we're told to believe, well, they would never do it again. It's kind of like the CIA. You know, you hear this from people, and I know there are a lot of people in political commentary, especially on the right, who hate the CIA. They're bad apples in the CIA, but the CIA has done some patriotic work, too. Nevertheless, the CIA has done some dodgy stuff over the years. And what the political establishment wants you to believe is the CIA and institutions like it have done really, really dodgy stuff, like all the time for all of American history. And then one day, it all just stopped. That's how I feel about the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has been stealing elections basically from the second that they were invented. And they've been doing it in basically the same way, using the same four or five tricks since the beginning. But then one day, about five minutes ago, they just all decided to stop for some reason. I don't think so. That La Mayor race stinks to high heaven. It was predictable. But the enormity of what appears to be fraud is pretty shocking. Okay, speaking of crime, the Jeffrey Epstein saga gets new life. It deepens yet again because of the Capitol Hill closed door testimony of Bill Gates. It's gonna make some political commentators look like they got egg on their face. First, though, smash the like button and subscribe. But also check us out on Spotify, where you can download full episode audio and video to watch or listen whenever you want without using your data. Do not miss an episode. My favorite comment, I actually didn't pick this comment. I left it to the producers. We'll see what they picked. This is from Daniel Wiest. Eight says, what do you want us to do at this point? Marry the father of your children? Oh, yeah, that's a good answer. What do you want us to do? That's a good answer. Not bad. Okay. Bill Gates testifies on Capitol Hill to the House Oversight Committee closed door hearing. This was just yesterday. It's over. Jeffrey Epstein and the latest on the Epstein saga. Let's go back to the beginning. Jeffrey Epstein gets pinched for soliciting sex from an underage girl in the mid-2000s. He is prosecuted, but he gets a sweetheart deal and has a nice kind of come as you please jail sentence at the Palm beach jail. He's a fairly influential guy. He seems to know the richest, most powerful people all over the world. The way that he got his money is a little bit unclear. He was a college dropout who was briefly a private school math teacher. And then he ends up on Wall street at Bear Stearns, makes a bunch of money. Or was it Bear Stearns or Lehman Brothers? Anyway, one of the places that went belly up. And then he's just this influence peddler. So when this story really comes out in 2015, it's a big Democrat scandal because the vast majority of the rich and famous people that he's palling around with are on the left. Few people who are kind of on the right, including he was a member of Mar A Lago. He knew Donald Trump. But it's mostly left wingers, guys like Bill Gates. Then Trump arrests him, arrests Ghislaine Maxwell, his accomplice. They are prosecuted. Epstein kills himself. Maybe he doesn't kill himself. Ghislaine Maxwell remains in prison. But then the way the story changed was we were told, okay, well, we all believe this was a blackmail operation from the beginning. As more evidence came out over the last six months, which you've heard is, no, no, Epstein wasn't blackmailing anybody. He wasn't actually. He was selling influence. We don't know who he was selling it for. Was it a foreign state? A lot of accusations that he was working for Israel because there were some connections to Israeli intelligence or could have been MI6 or the KGB. There are also connections through Ghislaine Maxwell's father to British and Russian intelligence. Was it American intelligence? Alex Acosta, reportedly the US Attorney who was prosecuting Epstein, reportedly said he belonged to US Intelligence. You know, it's a little unclear, or was he working for himself? But the narrative that has solidified among the chattering class over the last 612 months is that Epstein was not actually blackmailing people. This was totally made up. There's no evidence of this whatsoever. And then Bill Gates just blew that narrative up. Yesterday, Bill Gates said to Congress, quote, I learned Epstein had become aware of sensitive information about my personal life, including the fact that I'd been unfaithful in my marriage. These affairs had nothing to do with my interactions with Epstein, but they were painful for my family. He said that Epstein tried to use that personal information to pull him back into a relationship. Gates said Epstein used the affairs, quote, in addition to many lies that he layered on top in an effort to pressure him. He was unsuccessful in this effort, but it shows some of the ways he tried to leverage his interactions with me to further his agenda. At the outset, I want to state very clearly I never witnessed nor had any indication that Epstein was engaged in ongoing criminal conduct. Blah, blah, blah. This is all CYA kind of stuff. I never went to the island, his ranch, or his Florida home. That's actually interesting. He's testifying under oath here, presumably. So if he says he didn't go to the island, I guess he didn't go to the island. I've never victimized anyone. Okay, but Epstein was blackmailing him. So what was Epstein? I'm not totally convinced that he was working for Israeli intelligence, as the Internet seems to have decided. He had a very close relationship with Ehud Barak, the former liberal prime minister of the state of Israel. But it doesn't totally add up that he was actually working for the state of Israel. Inasmuch as Ehud Barak was coming to Jeffrey Epstein to help Ehud Barak get money for a project after he left public office. And it seems like the money would flow the other way. If Epstein were just working for the state of Israel, it seems like the money would go the other way. He obviously was palling around with Prince Andrew in the uk With Bill Clinton a lot, a little bit with Donald Trump at Mar A Lago. He's palling around with a lot of people, but he was blackmailing them. He was at least blackmailing Bill Gates. So what was he, after one of Epstein's most infamous associates, says there was blackmail under oath. So this was not just a kind of networker, connector kind of guy. This was a guy who was a little more forceful than that. So the question remains, who or what was he working for? Was it a foreign state? Was it some kind of private criminal syndicate? Or was it himself? I'm somewhat inclined to believe that Epstein actually was working for himself and everybody else, that he was just one of these guys. He was this kind of dodgy guy who lives on the limits of politics, who helps private individuals, corporations, even states, get things done when they don't want it to be totally transparent, when they don't want it to be totally accountable. You think about how the US Military works. The US Military or the intelligence community, when they're working on different projects and they don't want them to have total public oversight, they'll farm them out to the contractors because the contractors don't have the same obligations to transparency that the government does. And I kind of think of Jeffrey Epstein in that way. He was a guy that powerful individuals, corporations, and probably states leaned on in this kind of murky, blurry, liminal way to skirt transparency and to get politics done. He was a kind of political glue is my read on him. But this is an actual change. I don't talk about the Epstein thing all that much because I felt we had exhausted the Epstein conversation for 10 years. But this is new information. We initially thought it was a blackmail ring. Then we were told it was not a blackmail ring. Now you have Bill Gates coming out saying, no, actually, it was a blackmail ring. He blackmailed me. Where does it go from here? Okay. Speaking of foreign affairs, Vice President J.D. vance has just come out, spoken to USA Today, and weighed in on the Iran war, which we were told was gonna last four to six weeks. And the White House can plausibly say, yeah, it did last four to six weeks' cause we've been in a ceasefire ever since then. And the ceasefire involves the occasional volleys of missiles. But generally speaking, we're just in kind of a stalemate in a ceasefire. So they can make an argument. That's the argument they would make, I think, if hostilities resumed in order to restart the War Powers Act. But in any case, J.D. vance made very interesting comments yesterday. He said, I feel extremely confident that we are not going to be talking about America's involvement in Iran even a year down the road, but certainly not years down the road. This was in a phone interview. I think that we're going to be successful, this is in getting a deal. If this diplomacy ultimately falls apart, then the President has further tools at his disposal. But so long as we keep this thing anchored to the core mission, prevent Iran from having a nuclear weapon, it's not going to become a quagmire. This is the key. And I think Vance is a sophisticated thinker when it comes to foreign policy and he's got a pretty consistent record because he's one of the more realist voices which within the administration, though, if the New York Times reporting is to be believed, most people in the admin seem to agree with J.D. vance. And the line here, the thing that's gonna freak people out is when he says, we're not gonna be talking about this a year from now. People are gonna say, a year from now? You told me it was gonna be four weeks.
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You told me it was gonna be four weeks. Now we're talking about a year from now or years from now. Whoa, we're moving the goalposts. No, I don't think it's moving the goalpost. I think it's dealing with the reality of war. When I. When it all kicked off, I said, had I been on the nfc, I would have argued against it. Not because Iran doesn't deserve it, but because of the probabilities of success and the proportionality of it. So this thing could drag on for a long time. But Vance going on the record here saying, a year or years from now, we're not going to think about this, but the way that we're going to be successful is keeping this thing anchored to the core mission. Preventing Iran from having a nuclear weapon. This is the key. This is real sophistication from the vice President here, unsurprisingly, but nevertheless really important. The way that this could really go off the rails, much more so than it has, is if we start to have mission drift when we're trying to ascertain the reasonable probability of success in Iran. What's the Iran war about? Ask 10 different people, you're gonna get 10 different answers. You ask the war hawk types, they're gonna say it's about liberating the Iranian people from their oppressive regime. It's about finally bringing justice to the mullahs after 47 years. It's about protecting the United States and her allies by finally and her allies, chiefly being Israel in the region, by finally chopping off the head of the snake and reinstituting Shah Reza Pahlavi and having a bright new day for the people of Persia. You're gonna hear that from the real war hawk types. It's going to get real bushy. It's going to get real mid 2000s Neo. Connie, real quick. Or you can ask the more restrained people, you can ask President Trump, for that matter, what's the point of the war in Iran? The point of the war in Iran is that Iran cannot develop a nuclear weapon. We cannot permit Iran to develop a nuclear weapon. So inasmuch as we greatly set back their program, inasmuch as we destroy their ballistic missile system so they can't reach a point of immunity where they could really, you know, have a, have a quick breakout to nuclear power. As long as we do that, we've achieved our mission. Even if the regime remains in place. Because I think that the regime is durable. I thought this before the war as it's launching and afterward, I don't think you're gonna. I wish we could replace that regime. I don't like that regime at all. But I don't think you're gonna do it cleanly. I don't think you're gonna do it effectively. I don't see any evidence that the regime that replaces it is gonna be any better. I think you might have a repeat of Iraq in that situation. I don't see evidence of proportionality that the goods to be achieved are really worth it here. So you have to stay focused to that mission. If the United States can claim we have seriously set back Iran's nuclear. You're not gonna obliterate Iran's nuclear ambitions. They want a nuclear bomb, and I get why they want a nuclear bomb. But if you can seriously set it back and you can say, look, we achieved our goals in this war and now we're ramping it down, that's the only way you're gonna avoid a years, if not decade or more long quagmire. Because it's very easy to start a war, but you don't always get to determine how a war ends. Okay? Speaking of the Vice President's priorities, his chief domestic priority is stopping fraud. I got a clear example of fraud that he's gotta stop. This being pushed in the New York Times, but we don't have time to get to it because it's theology Thursday, so we'll have to get to it tomorrow. But this is a crazy one. This takes Democrat euphemisms to the extreme. The rest of the show continues now. You do not want to miss it. Become a member, use code Noel's Canada wles at checkout for two months free on all annual plans.