Michael Knowles Reacts To Christopher Nolan's "The Odyssey" TRAILER

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Episode: Michael Knowles Reacts To Christopher Nolan's "The Odyssey" TRAILER
Date: January 21, 2026
Host: Michael Knowles (The Daily Wire)

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Main Theme

In this episode, Michael Knowles shares his genuine anticipation for Christopher Nolan’s upcoming film adaptation of "The Odyssey." Breaking his typical cynicism toward modern cinema, Knowles discusses why he's hopeful about this project, analyzes the trailer, and delves into the film's casting, likely cultural impact, and underlying political themes that set it apart from current Hollywood trends.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. A Rare Movie to Look Forward To

• Knowles opens by critiquing Hollywood's "Marvel slop," calling recent films “not only left wing but also very boring.”
• He highlights his respect for Christopher Nolan:

  "I really like Christopher Nolan. Some people think he’s the greatest filmmaker ever. I don’t. I think his movies are good… I hear Christopher Nolan and I say, oh, this could be good." (00:11)

• Sets the stage with excitement that this project adapts Homer's "Odyssey," calling it “one of the greatest and most important poems ever written.”
• Offers brief literary commentary:

  “The Iliad’s a better poem, but the Odyssey is more exciting. It’s shorter and it’s faster…” (00:39)

2. Cast Analysis

• Praises the casting of Matt Damon as Odysseus and mentions Tom Holland potentially as Telemachus:

  “Matt Damon. Political views are wrong, but a good actor. Matt Damon plays Odysseus and Tom Holland is there. I think he plays Telemachus.” (00:57)

• Recalls and celebrates a famous line:

  “One of the great lines in all of literature is from Telemachus in the Odyssey. Who says, ‘it’s a wise man who knows his own father.’” (01:10)

3. Trailer Reaction

• Plays and reacts to the trailer in real time:
  • Dialogue from the trailer:

    Odysseus (Matt Damon): “After years of war, no one could stand between my men and home. Not even me.” (01:45)
    Penelope: “Promise me you will come back.” (02:31)
    Odysseus: “What if I can’t?” (03:03)

  • Knowles’ initial verdict:

    “Dare I say he looks pretty good. Doesn’t it look good?” (03:15)

4. Hollywood Politics and 'Wokeness'

• Sees signs that overtly progressive casting is fading:

  “I think we’re out of peak woke. I think woke is over.” (03:16)

• Imagines a satirical “woke” casting: “Anne Hathaway is going to play Odysseus. Matt Damon was going to play the Siren… The Cyclops would have special privileges, according to the ADA.” (03:23)
• Commends Nolan’s apparent conservatism:

  “Nolan, it was clear, had a little more of a conservative impulse, going all the way back to Dark Knight. And so you feel good about him.” (03:34)

• Acknowledges left-wing actors can shine in non-progressive films, referencing “Hail Caesar”:

  “Left wing actors can be in some of the great right wing movies… Hail Caesar starring George Clooney,… probably the most right wing movie made in the last 50 years.” (03:46)

5. Extended Cast Commentary

• Lists other notable cast:

  “And who else is in here? Charlize Theron, Robert Pattinson, Zendaya. I still don’t really know who Zendaya is.” (04:04)

6. Potential "Woke" Controversy: The Elliot Page Casting

• Guest raises concerns:

  Guest: “Do you remember someone named Ellen Page who is now Elliot Page? Yes, she’s in the movie. But they don’t tell you what character she plays as now a man.” (04:42)

• Knowles speculates humorously on what role Elliot Page might play:

  “She could be Telemachus… But no, they say Telemachus is someone else. That’s Tom Holland. So I don’t know. Is she one of the sirens?” (04:54)

• Expresses skepticism:

  “I don’t really buy Ellen Page as a siren today. I don’t really buy that… She’s not the Cyclops. She’s kind of diminutive.” (05:22)

• Concludes that private behaviors shouldn’t disqualify actors:

  “Just cause someone has like weird sexual hang ups doesn’t mean they can’t be in a movie. I mean most people in the theater have weird sexual hang ups. If that were disqualifying, you’d lose a lot of great art.” (05:27)

7. Anticipation and Final Thoughts

• Film logistics:

  “Quarter billion dollar budget. Trailer has 39 million views. Comes out in July. Okay. All right, I’m in. Sign me up. Take my 12 bucks or whatever the movies cost now.” (05:52)

• Closes with excitement to see the film.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On modern cinema:

  “They’re all the same Marvel slop, which is not only left wing but also very boring.” (00:02)

• On why ‘right-wing’ movies can feature left-wing actors:

  “Left-wing actors can be in some of the great right-wing movies." (03:44)

• On oddities of Hollywood politics:

  “Most people in the theater have weird sexual hang ups. If that were disqualifying, you’d lose a lot of great art.” (05:30)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–01:45 — Knowles introduces his excitement and sets literary context
• 01:45–03:03 — Key trailer lines are played and discussed
• 03:15–04:40 — Initial reaction and musings on Hollywood trends, Nolan’s politics, and casting
• 04:42–05:22 — Discussion of Elliot (Ellen) Page’s mysterious role
• 05:27–end — Thoughts on separating art from artist and Knowles’ concluding anticipation

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Tone and Style

Throughout the episode, Knowles employs a conversational, lightly sarcastic tone, balancing cultural critique with humor and serious engagement with classical literature. His skepticism of “woke” Hollywood trends, admiration for Nolan’s style, and lighthearted speculation—especially regarding casting—structure the segment as both an insightful review and a cultural commentary.

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Transcript

[A]

I rarely look forward to new movies because they're all the same Marvel slop, which is not only left wing but also very boring. However, there is a movie that I'm looking forward to. It is directed by Christopher Nolan. I really like Christopher Nolan. Some people think he's the greatest filmmaker ever. I don't. I think his movies are good. I've enjoyed them over the years. I'm not a fanboy camping out on the street, but, you know, I hear Christopher Nolan and I say, oh, this could be good. And it's about the Odyssey, which is one of the greatest and most important poems ever written. Yeah, there's this guy named Homer from a long time ago and the Odyssey is the follow up to the Iliad and the Odyssey is kind of more exciting. The Iliad's a better poem, but the Odyssey is more exciting. It's shorter and it's faster and I don't know. So anyway, it's got a good cast, right? Matt Damon. Political views are wrong, but a good actor. Matt Damon plays Odysseus and Tom Holland is there. I think he plays Telemachus. One of the great lines in all of literature is from Telemachus in the Odyssey. Who says, it's a wise man who knows his own father. So anyway, I'm looking forward to a movie for the first time probably in years. The trailer is out now and I. Are my hopes just too high? Am I going to be disappointed? Let's find out.

[B]

After years of war, No one could stand between my men. And home, Not even me.

[A]

Going to see that Cyclops, huh? Promise me you will come back.

[B]

What if I can't?

[A]

Dare I say he looks pretty good. Doesn't it look good? I think we're out of peak woke. I think woke is over. Had this been coming out Christopher Nolan or not? Especially if it were not with Christopher Nolan. Had this been coming out three years ago, I'd say this is awful. You know, Anne Hathaway is going to play Odysseus. Matt Damon was going to play the Siren. I don't know. The Cyclops would have special privileges, according to the ada. It would be a disaster. They'd all be black or Muslim or indigenous. No, this, I feel good about it. Nolan, it was clear, had a little more of a conservative impulse, going all the way back to Dark Knight. And so you feel good about him? I don't care. Left wing actors can be in some of the great right wing movies. I mean, just think of Hail Caesar by the Coen brothers, who are magnificent filmmakers. And clearly a little more on the right. But they made that great movie Hail Caesar starring George Clooney, who is the poster boy of left wing Democrats. Brad party darling. In Hollywood, Clooney played himself as a bumbling left wing, taken in by the communists kind of movie star in probably the most right wing movie made in the last 50 years. Hail Caesar. So it can happen. And Matt Damon's a good actor. And who's. Who else is in here? Charlize Theron, Robert Pattinson, Zendaya. I still don't really know who Zendaya is.

[C]

There's one thing to look out for.

[A]

What?

[C]

Do you remember someone named Ellen Page who is now Elliot Page? Yes, she's in the movie. But they don't tell you what character she plays as now a man.

[A]

She could be Telemachus. You know, Telemachus is like a young depends on where in puberty. I guess Telemachus is a little bit older, right? He's got his beard. Which is why the mother or the presumed widow of Odysseus is now gonna have to marry one of the suitors who's trying to take over the kingdom. But. So it could be Ellen Page as Elliot could be playing Telemachus. But no, they say Telemachus is someone else. That's Tom Holland. So I don't know. Is she one of the sirens?

[C]

They don't say. Kids are pretty. Hush, hush.

[A]

I don't really buy Ellen Page as a siren today. I don't really buy that. Huh. Who could it be? She's not the Cyclops. She's kind of diminutive. Huh. Yeah, I don't. Well, I guess I'll just have to see it to find out. But that's fine. You know, just cause someone has like weird sexual hang ups doesn't mean they can't be in a movie. I mean most people in the theater have weird sexual hang ups. So it's not. If that were disqualifying, you'd lose a lot of great art. It's true of art generally. You know, we would lose Caravaggio and like all of them. So. Okay, I'm just reserving judgment. I look forward. When does it come out? Quarter billion dollar budget trailer has 39 million views. Comes out in July. Okay. All right, I'm in. Sign me up. Take my 12 bucks or whatever the movies cost now. See you next time.