Michael Knowles Vs. Mary Morgan: Test Your Pop Culture IQ | FACE-OFF

Summary

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The Michael Knowles Show: Michael Knowles Vs. Mary Morgan – Test Your Pop Culture IQ | FACE-OFF

Date: October 18, 2025
Host: Michael Knowles (Daily Wire)
Special Guests: Mary Morgan, Mr. Davies (Moderator)

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Episode Overview

This lively episode features a special FACE-OFF edition of The Michael Knowles Show, where Michael Knowles goes head-to-head with pop culture YouTuber Mary Morgan in a rapid-fire, competitive pop culture trivia showdown. Under the watchful eye of moderator Mr. Davies, the two race through questions about celebrity gossip, viral internet phrases, music, and digital trends from 2025 and recent years, vying for the title of “Delulu Giga Chad Sigma Rizzler, Main Character Maven of Pop Culture.” The episode is packed with banter, memorable misfires, and genuine moments of cultural confusion.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Game Setup & Rules

[02:16 – 02:38]

• Mr. Davies sets the stage: contestants are given 30 seconds per question, most points wins.
• The loser must deliver a glowing, tongue-in-cheek ad for the winner and award them the grand pop culture title.

Quote:
Mr. Davies: “The loser ... will have to deliver a glowing 30 second ad and publicly declare them the real Delulu Giga Chad Sigma Rizzler, main character, maven of pop culture.” [02:20]

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2. Pop Culture Quiz Highlights

a) Price of Most Expensive Labubu Doll

[03:13 – 04:23]

• Question: What is the price of the most expensive Labubu doll ever sold?
• Michael: $1,400; Mary: ambiguous, tried adjusting currency.
• Correct Answer: $170,000.

Michael: “If you let Mary Morgan get away with yen, then she actually would go rubles or something, and then she would win. Wow.” [04:14]

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b) Sabrina Carpenter’s Height

[04:42 – 05:41]

• Correct Answer: 5 ft
• Mary cites the lyric: "Five feet to be exact."
• Michael guesses 4’11” out of caution.

Mary: “She sang it. It’s in her lyrics.” [05:04]

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c) Viral Phrase of 2025

[06:45 – 08:19]

• Question: Which phrase dominated Summer 2025?
• Michael writes “It’s giving,” Mary guesses “Brainrot Summer.”
• Correct: “Brainrot Summer.”

Michael: “I wrote, it’s giving. Wow, that ages you, Michael. Just like your cursive.” [08:08]

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d) Grand Theft Auto VI U.S. State

[08:34 – 09:37]

• Correct Answer: Florida (Vice City)
• Michael incorrectly chooses California, confused it with San Andreas.

Michael: “No, it’s Florida. It’s Vice City. No, I was thinking of San Andreas.” [09:30]

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e) Taylor Swift: Number of Major Relationships

[10:17 – 11:20]

• Correct Answer: 12
• Michael (confidently): 18; Mary: 13.

Mary: “She’s, like, obsessed with the number 13. It has to be the 13th guy that she marries.” [11:27]

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f) Most Popular 2025 Social Content Format

[12:16 – 13:09]

• Correct Answer: Vertical shorts under 15 seconds.
• Michael nails it; Mary is "too optimistic" with long-form live streams.

Mary: “Too much faith in humanity, which is bad for both of our shows.” [13:06]

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g) Most Viewed Netflix Movie

[14:30 – 15:25]

• Correct Answer: K Pop Demon Hunters (541 million views in 28 days).
• Both contestants guess incorrectly (Mary: Knives Out; Michael: Big Medea’s House 7).

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h) Taylor Swift’s Billion-View Music Videos

[16:08 – 18:09]

• Correct Answer: 5.
• Mr. Davies misleads ("a couple"), sowing playful mistrust.
• Discussion of bots inflating views.

Michael: “You said she had a couple. I don’t know why you lied.” [18:25]

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i) Meaning of "6 7" in 2025 Slang

[19:08 – 21:16]

• Question: What does "6 7" mean?
• Michael: “Moderately acceptable.” Mary: knowledge of its rap origins but not the meaning.
• Correct: It means nothing! Just trendy internet Dada.

Mr. Davies: “It means nothing. It’s just like Dada. It's like 'Ah, six, seven.'” [21:13]

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j) Taylor Swift: "The Fate of Ophelia" Lyric

[21:44 – 23:39]

• Correct Answer: “Your hands, your team, your vibe.”
• Mary, as a self-described “studied hater” Swiftie, nails it.

Mary: “I'm a Swiftie. Like, I'm kind of a hater, but I'm a studied hater.” [23:47]

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k) Maximalist Glam Actress 2025

[24:48 – 26:06]

• Correct Answer: Sabrina Carpenter.
• Michael and Mary briefly debate Emma Stone’s fashion relevance.

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l) Female Celebrity with Most Husbands

[26:41 – 27:52]

• Correct Answer: Jennifer Lopez (4 marriages).
• Mary notes her many engagements vs. marriages.

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m) Bad Bunny Super Bowl Song

[28:35 – 29:39]

• Correct Answer: “Dakiti”
• Both get it right.

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n) Percentage of Adults with AI Relationships

[29:51 – 31:18]

• Correct Answer: 28%
• Michael, shocked: “1%,” Mary: “doomer answer, quite high.”
• Discussion about the impact of AI on relationships and birth rates.

Mary: “I saw a different survey that said, like, something like 45% responded that they would have a relationship with some sort of AI system.” [31:45]

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o) Olivia Rodrigo/Sabrina Carpenter/Joshua Bassett Drama

[32:51 – 34:28]

• Correct Answer: Sabrina Carpenter is the artist Olivia had “beef” with.
• Michael talks about Tom & Jerry's sexy cat; Mary corrects the lore.

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p) Rumor: Male Artist Stalked by Wife since Childhood

[35:51 – 36:18]

• Correct Answer: Justin Bieber (Hailey Bieber).
• Mary: “She started stalking him. Allegedly, when she was 12 years old. That’s dedication.”

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q) Homewrecker Pop Star, 2025

[37:01 – 37:46]

• Correct Answer: Ariana Grande.
• Michael: "Not Ariana Pequeno, but Ariana Grande.”

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r) FINAL: OnlyFans Top Earner Sophie Rain

[38:26 – 41:51]

• Question: How much did Sophie Rain earn in one year (closest without going over)?
• Correct Answer: $43 million
• Michael: $36 million, Mary: $55 million. Michael wins by being closer without going over.

Michael: “I want to thank every degenerate zoomer out there for spending money on an evil and disgusting vice that is corrupting your soul. Because you just let me win a meaningless game. So thank you.” [41:59]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Michael on Pop Culture Generational Divide:
  “You gotta get on the TikTok and figure out what all the kids are twitching about, you know.” [07:12]

• Mary on internet slang and aging:
  “I’ve heard that. Like, I’m officially unk now because I was alive during 9/11.” [07:36]

• Michael’s tongue-in-cheek self-elegy:
  “I thought that I could force the reality to bend to my will by confidently saying 18. But I am not a witch. Like that lady in Delaware. I’m not a witch.” [11:39]

• On Virtual Relationships:
  Michael: “At that point, the human race will go extinct because there’ll be no more children.”
  Mary: “And it’s interesting that Elon Musk is kvetching all the time about the birth rate decline, and yet he is encouraging men to take up AI girlfriends with Grok.” [32:35]

• Mr. Davies crowning Michael after comeback victory:
  “Looks like there is a new maven of pop culture because it was $43 million.” [41:51]

• Mary Morgan’s tongue-in-cheek winner’s ad:
  “He is such a Riz master that the Riz might emanate from the screen and be endowed onto you. And one day you could have as much Riz as Michael Knowles.” [42:46]

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Final Score & Good-Natured Conclusion

• Mary Morgan leads the whole game, but an “all or nothing” final round lets Michael steal the win.
• Both display humility and wit, complimenting and teasing each other.
• Mary delivers the required winner’s ad for Michael, finishing the show on a self-deprecating, spirited note.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:16] – Game Instructions
• [03:13] – Labubu Doll Price
• [04:42] – Sabrina Carpenter’s Height
• [06:45] – 2025 Viral Phrase
• [08:34] – GTA VI State
• [10:17] – Taylor Swift Relationships
• [12:16] – 2025 Social Media Format Trend
• [14:30] – Most-Viewed Netflix Movie
• [16:08] – Taylor Swift’s Billion-View Videos
• [19:08] – “6 7” Slang Meaning
• [21:44] – “Fate of Ophelia” Lyric
• [24:48] – Maximalist Glam Actress
• [26:41] – Female Celeb with Most Husbands
• [28:35] – Bad Bunny Song
• [29:51] – Adults in AI Relationships
• [32:51] – Rodrigo/Carpenter/Bassett Drama
• [35:51] – Stalker Wife Rumor
• [37:01] – Homewrecker Pop Star
• [38:26] – OnlyFans Top Earner Lightning Round
• [42:46] – Mary’s Winner Ad
• [43:38] – Show Close

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Overall Tone & Style

True to Michael Knowles's typical style, the episode is irreverent, quick-witted, and self-aware, with playful jabs at generational divides, internet absurdities, and the bleakness (or hilarity) of modern culture. Both Knowles and Morgan bring sharp, meme-savvy humor, making the content engaging whether or not you follow today’s pop trends.

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For listeners new and old, this episode is a fast-paced, culture-clashing romp you don’t want to miss—enlightening, embarrassing, and entertaining in equal parts.

Transcript

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[B]

It's a. It's a.

[D]

It is not.

[B]

It is.

[E]

It is not A. And you are getting completely destroyed. It is C. Your hands, your team, your vibe.

[B]

Fate of Ophelia lyrics is Sabrina Carpenter.

[E]

Secretly pushing trad values through her practically nude music videos. Are Labubus actually pocket demons? I don't know. I'm just a regular suburban dad who thought Ice Spice was a winter candle. But you know who might have the answer? These pop culture defining mysteries? Michael Knowles and Mary Morgan. One of them post pop culture crisis, which has pop culture in the title. The other thinks pop culture peaked when Bach dropped his six Conciertos. Here's how it works.

[B]

Conciertos. Conciertos.

[E]

Conciertos.

[B]

Is he a Mexican? Oh, man, this is off to a bad start. Sorry. Keep going, Mr. Davies.

[E]

Here's how it works. Right, I'll read a question. Each host has 30 seconds to scribble down their answers. The loser, well, they'll have to deliver a glowing 30 second ad for the winner and publicly declare them the real Delulu Giga Chad Sigma Rizzler, main character, maven of pop culture. This is Face Off Pop Culture. Welcome, ladies and Gentlemen.

[B]

Well, it's great to be here, Mr. Davies. Thank you for having me on my own show. My answer for who our guest will be today is. Mary Morgan.

[D]

Oh, I hate that.

[B]

Is that what you mean? That's good. What are you talking about?

[D]

That looks horrible.

[B]

That's very pretty. What are you talking.

[D]

Erase that immediately.

[B]

What? Hold on. I don't. That's nice, Mr. Davies. Is that.

[E]

That is gonna be the most. That's gonna be the most value NFT of 2025. Most of these questions will focus on 2025 pop culture, but maybe there'll be some curveballs. We'll see. Are y' all ready for the first question?

[B]

I'm ready.

[E]

All right.

[D]

I think so.

[E]

1. What is the price of the most expensive Labubu doll ever sold? This is closest without going over.

[B]

Closest without going over of the Labubu doll, which are. They're like Lululemons, I hear.

[D]

I can't spoil it.

[B]

I'm gonna say five seconds.

[E]

All right, Knowles, be a gentleman. What do you got?

[B]

1.5 million. I said $1,400.

[D]

Well, one of them was made of gold.

[B]

They made a gold.

[D]

Expensive.

[B]

No, they did not make a gold.

[D]

I also erased the dollar sign because it depends on the currency, how much this means it's worth.

[B]

Hold on. You can't pick any currency. You can't simultaneously answer yuan, rupees, and dollars. Pick a currency. Pick a currency.

[E]

Well, this is not going very well because neither one of you were close at all. The correct answer is $170,000. The life size.

[B]

Let's go, babe. Because it's closer without going over.

[E]

Yeah, it's closer without going over.

[B]

If you let Mary Morgan get away with yen, then she actually would go rubles or something, and then she would win. Wow. Oh, let's go. How much was it?

[E]

170,000. It was a life size.

[B]

Labubu life. Did they make one out of gold, though?

[D]

What does that mean? They're not alive life size.

[E]

Like, depending on how tall you are, it's kind of like rupees, you know?

[B]

But is it like, Mary Morgan life size, or is it like, you know, David Cohn life size?

[E]

That's a great question.

[B]

Those are very different lives, you know.

[E]

Another great question.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Okay, the next one.

[B]

All right.

[E]

Sabrina Carpenter's new album, Man's Best Friend, was released in August of 2025, with the album cover going viral, leaving everyone and basically every man thinking the same thing. How tall is Sabrina Carpenter? Close without going over.

[B]

How tall is Sabrina? Yeah.

[E]

Hmm.

[D]

I know this one. It's in her song.

[E]

Whoa, not looking good, Michael.

[D]

She sang it. It's in her lyrics.

[E]

I wonder if she lied or if the Internet lied. We'll see. All right, what do you have?

[B]

I'm gonna get it wrong. Ladies first.

[E]

Okay.

[D]

All right, this is the lyric. Five feet to be exact.

[E]

Michael.

[D]

She leaves quite the impression. Oh, I leave quite an impression. Five feet to.

[B]

So I almost put five feet to be exact, but it's closest without going over, and I did. 4 foot 11.

[E]

It is 5ft exactly.

[B]

Hey, that was against my better chance.

[D]

But in those huge platform heels that she wears, she's like, maybe your height, Michael.

[B]

Yeah, she might be. Is she petite in her videos? I've never really noticed her relative to other men.

[D]

It's really hard to tell them to be her videos. Like the music videos?

[E]

The men?

[B]

Yeah. Like, I see her. I've watched two of her videos now, I think, at least. And she doesn't. Five feet is very short. She doesn't seem that short. Maybe the guys are all little Al Pacinos. I don't know.

[D]

It's the perspective thing. They probably have her standing on a milk crate or something.

[B]

That's show business.

[E]

And Michael, when he analyzes her music video, he's always thinking about the height. Always.

[B]

All the time.

[E]

Yeah. How tall are you, Mary Morgan?

[D]

I'm 5:1 to be towering around 5 foot 1 flat.

[B]

Why didn't I get.

[D]

I kind of mog her.

[E]

You mog her?

[B]

You mog her. You mew her.

[E]

All right, number three. As we know, 2024 was the hoc to a summer which viral phrase dominated 2025. Is it a bones day? No, Bones day. It's giving brainrot Summer Muse.

[B]

Summer Muse as in the muses or mew as in the word I just said? Muses as in the muses. Muse.

[D]

No, none of these are the correct answer. Literally, none of these are the correct answer.

[B]

I have my answer, Mary Morgan. You gotta get on the TikTok and figure out what all the kids are twitching about. You know.

[D]

There was no summer anything this summer. There is no anything summer.

[E]

My good friend Google says that's where.

[D]

Any of this comes from.

[B]

Yeah, maybe you didn't marry Morgan. Maybe you didn't get invited. Maybe only Mr. I certainly didn't get invited. Maybe it was only Mr. Dayton.

[D]

I've heard that. Like, I'm officially unk now because I was alive during 9 11.

[B]

That makes you unk. Wow.

[D]

It's not, if you remember. 9 11. Now it's just if you were alive during 9 11.

[B]

I was like 28 during 9 11. No, I was 11, actually. I was 11. Really? I was.

[E]

Same. All right, what do you have?

[D]

I just put Brainrot Summer. Cause I don't know what other term it could have been. And I put six, seven as a footnote.

[E]

What did Michael write in cursive? What is that?

[B]

I wrote, it's giving.

[E]

It's giving. Wow, that ages you, Michael. Just like your cursive. It's actually brain rot summer, which is why Jacob's having the best summer of his life.

[B]

What is the six, seven.

[D]

That's not real.

[E]

Well, don't get into the six seven. Cause we may. We may get into that later.

[B]

I'm keeping that in my mind. Let's go. All right.

[D]

There was no brain rot summer, though.

[E]

Have you been around, Professor Jacob?

[D]

Brain rot summer.

[E]

All right, next up, the new Grand Theft Auto number six takes place in a fictional US state. Which real state is it based on? And I mean, maybe they'll come out this year. Who knows?

[D]

Probably not.

[E]

Michael may actually play this one.

[D]

This one's pretty. This one is easy, right? You gonna draw it too?

[E]

He's gonna quickly erase it.

[D]

What's going on there? I feel like I can see it. So I'm cheating by looking at your board.

[B]

Can you see what I'm writing?

[D]

Vaguely, yeah. But there's like more. There's more flourish than that.

[B]

Yeah, there's a lot.

[D]

I wasn't really creative with Minecraft.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I said California and that's Gavin Newsom.

[D]

That's your genuine answer?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, no, no, It's Florida. It's Vice City. No, I was thinking of San Andreas.

[D]

I thought it was obvious.

[E]

Michael, my future's tied to you. The fact that you missed that is just so cool.

[B]

No, I knew it was a reboot of one of the two and it was. The only one that I ever played was Vice City, but I just confused it. Cause San Andres was the LA one. Wow.

[E]

We reviewed the trailer on your show, bro.

[B]

I had.

[E]

We talked about it.

[B]

I had so much Tylenol this morning. I'm sorry. I just overdosed on Tylenol.

[E]

That's.

[B]

What do you think of my Gavin Newsom?

[D]

I'm not even a gamer and I knew.

[B]

Yeah, I'm really into drawing.

[D]

You're Gavin Newsom.

[B]

Is it okay? It's not.

[D]

I don't know. He's a little bit more vivacious than the real Gavin Newsom.

[B]

Than that just American Psycho Cadaver. Yeah. Okay.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

All Right. All right, all right, next up, how many major tabloid level relationships has Taylor Swift been in since entering public life in 2008? This is closest. Without going over. These. This is not like, high school mystery boyfriends or whatever. This is, like, official celebrity, you know.

[B]

Like, could have had a song written about it.

[E]

Right. Since 2008.

[B]

Closest to that going over.

[D]

I think I know it's because she's a witch. Do I have to not go over to win?

[E]

Right, you have to not go over, but you can get it exactly. Like you're five foot.

[B]

That one's gonna hold.

[D]

This one's risky.

[E]

Okay, I'm nervous.

[B]

I gotta get my board off camera. Why? We gotta frame this better next time she's seeing my numbers.

[D]

Well, it's, like, blurry. It's fine.

[B]

It's 18.

[D]

Oh, it's 18. I think you went way over.

[B]

No, it's 18.

[D]

I put 13.

[B]

No.

[E]

All right, y' all both collectively lose. Cause it was 12.

[D]

Damn it. I knew it was 12.

[B]

I thought if I said it confidently.

[D]

She's a witch. I think that her 13 obsession, like, she's, like, obsessed with the number 13. It has to be the 13th guy that she marries. So maybe. Maybe that means she'll break up with Travis. I don't know.

[B]

I thought that I could be a witch. I thought I could force the reality to bend to my will by confidently saying 18. But I am not a witch. Like that lady in Delaware. I'm not a witch.

[E]

All right, what's the score?

[B]

Currently, this is bad asking.

[E]

Control room three, one. Mary. All right, this is when the Comeback starts, right here.

[D]

Wow, this is great. I feel good about this because I learned on yes or no that I'm not competitive enough and I'm really bad at following rules.

[E]

Oh, Michael, this is your shot here.

[B]

Get that bot question. Let's go, baby. Here we go.

[E]

Which social content format rose the most in popularity in 2025? Was it long form, live streams, 30 second TikTok duets, vertical shorts. Under 15 seconds, full screen VR videos. Which of those four.

[D]

Which was the most popular?

[E]

Which row is the most in popularity?

[B]

So it's, like, about. It's acceleration, not velocity, right? It's about the growth.

[E]

Where's the energy at?

[B]

You got to be a hopper. Pop culture maven. Like me to know, but it's obvious. It's obvious. You ready?

[D]

Is it?

[E]

All right, Mary, what do you have?

[D]

I did Long form livestream.

[B]

Not even close. 15 seconds.

[E]

The correct answer.

[D]

Too much faith in humanity, which is.

[E]

Bad for both of Our shows, it's the vertical shorts under 15 seconds.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, you're right, though. It is bad for the shows. But at least I get a point.

[D]

I was too optimistic.

[B]

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[E]

Film became the most viewed Netflix movie ever? This is before Elon Musk completely nuked the platform.

[D]

Well, I don't know about nuking the platform, but.

[B]

Which film became the most viewed Netflix movie ever?

[D]

I have a pretty good.

[E]

There's been some good ones. There was, like, Bird Box and a few others like that, but this crushed it.

[B]

I don't. I watch, like, one television show a year, possibly two. The biggest Netflix movie ever. Say. Okay, I think I have it. I think. Okay, I've got it.

[D]

That was a long title.

[B]

Listen, it's the biggest movie ever. All right? What do you have, Mary Morgan knives out.

[D]

Hmm?

[B]

I said I think it's a pretty good match. Big Medea's house 7.

[E]

The correct answer is K Pop Demon Hunters.

[B]

Ah, shoot. I knew that. I hate that.

[E]

It got 541 million views in 28 days, which is wild.

[D]

Wait, that was for 2025. I was just thinking, like, the most popular of all time.

[E]

This is the most popular of all time.

[B]

Because also, Tyler Perry's big media came out in 2022. So I also, I guess, was thinking about it that way.

[E]

Brutal.

[B]

That's frustrating.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

I also, I need to point out, I think Mary Morgan is very delayed here, and I think that's giving her a big advantage. I think her stream is delayed and it's giving her an advantage.

[D]

I'm watching you put up your answer while I'm still writing mine.

[B]

It's outrageous. It's outrageous.

[E]

Cat's out of the bag here. Speaking of views, how many Taylor Swift music videos currently have over 1 billion views on YouTube? Closest. Without going over, Just for reference, the true pop star Sabrina Carpenter doesn't have a single one over a billion yet, but your girl Taylor's got a couple.

[D]

Haha.

[B]

She has a couple.

[D]

You said, I don't even know how many. I don't know how many music videos Taylor Swift has.

[B]

He just gave us the answer. He said she has a couple. A couple is two. So did you. You just said it's two.

[E]

Close is not going over, Michael.

[B]

All right, shoot your shot. All right.

[D]

Well.

[B]

It'S like, is he lying? Is he a reliable narrator? Is he a reliable moderator?

[D]

Yeah, I think he's trying. He's trying to lead us away from.

[B]

He's gonna be like, it's gonna be like 10 and he's gonna be like, no. Like a couple just means more than one or whatever. Now what it means, it means two, but I don't know, maybe. Or is it like a double, triple, reverse uno card?

[E]

I'm just trying to keep it competitive with this delay. I don't want to throw Mary Morgan off the scent with this delay.

[B]

You know, I know the delay that's really. That's messing me up too. She might have. With the delay. She might have traveled into the future, looked it up on YouTube, come back, and then written down the number.

[D]

I'm thinking about it now, and I'm thinking Bad Blood for sure has a billion views. Blank space for sure has at least a billion views. Maybe. Look what you made me do. I think that would have a billion views.

[B]

Yeah. Dancing in the moonlight probably has like a trillion views.

[E]

Her best one hasn't quite cracked a million. It's at 950 million.

[B]

Tutti Frutti has wildest dreams. A quadrillion views. I don't really know any Taylor Swift songs. I've heard of Bad Blood. Okay, I say two. I stick by two.

[E]

Two.

[D]

I said four. I don't know why I'm not confident.

[E]

In it, but the correct answer is 5. Mary Morgan pulls ahead more. Uh huh. Yay.

[D]

It feels good to be good at something.

[E]

There's 2 over 3.5 billion, which is the blank space and blank space and Shake it off.

[B]

You said she had a couple. I don't know why you lied.

[E]

I couldn't just say, like, oh, she has one. I'd be like, you know, a couple, a few, like, whatever.

[B]

No, no, A couple and a few are different. You said a couple.

[E]

I confused three couples. Yeah, I know.

[B]

You didn't say a throuple.

[D]

How many of the views are bots? Like a lot of the YouTube views are bots. Anyway, I don't know.

[E]

Great question. You know what else is a great question? Number nine, Someone needs to turn the air on because it's heating up and it's about to get serious. Cause I can tell that Mary Morgan wants to choke Michael out with his new Mayflower silk ties, available now. And I know what Michael's feeling. Michael's feeling a little 6 7, if you know what I mean. What did I just mean?

[B]

Feeling a little 6 7. Yeah, I, I was kind of hoping 67 would be the answer to one later on. And I could just use my.

[E]

If Michael's thinking 6 7, like what is he thinking?

[B]

Like how he goes in the ad read. Things are heating up. Mary Morgan's beating me by like 100 points. Heating up though.

[E]

But you can pull ahead here if you can.

[B]

I.

[E]

No, it's six, seven, six.

[B]

It's six seven.

[D]

You want to know what it means when someone goes like this?

[E]

I need you to write down six, seven, like give me. What does that mean for this 20, 25 term?

[D]

Well, I know where it comes from.

[E]

Do you know the basketball player?

[B]

It's a basketball thing. Hold on now I gotta change my answer.

[E]

Wait, it's a couple giving us hints.

[D]

Yeah, I forget the name of the basketball player, but I know the name of where it comes from.

[B]

Do you know what 420 means? Apparently it means marijuana.

[E]

I think by the end of this, I'm going to be the pop culture maven. I'm just going to win the award.

[B]

420 is also Hitler's birthday. Did you know that? I'm just trying to tell. Trying to prove I know something about pop culture.

[D]

I have an okay answer. It's like part of the answer.

[E]

You know what's even better than okay? Michael Knowles Mayflower silk cigar is available on dwshop.com silk cigars.

[B]

He says he's selling my silk Cigar. This is a disaster. This is a complete shonda.

[E]

All right, what do you have?

[B]

I say it means moderately acceptable. Like, it's not like it's. You know. On a scale of 1 to 10, it's like 6, 7.

[D]

You said the Skrilla is the name of the rapper. I think this is the name of the rapper that made the song that was used to, like, over the videos of the basketball player that you mentioned.

[E]

Ben, you are that. That is correct. And that is kind of the origin of the term. But that's not what the term means.

[B]

What's it mean? Does it mean moderately acceptable?

[D]

I think I know what it means now.

[E]

It means nothing. It's just like Dada. It's like nothing. It's, ah, six, seven.

[B]

I love Dada. I get a kick at wow.

[D]

That's kind of the point.

[B]

Is Skrilla like Skillet? I know Skillet. They're a Christian band.

[D]

I've never listened to Skrilla. I've listened to Skrillex.

[B]

Is he allowed to say Skrillex?

[D]

What the scriptures are doing?

[B]

But, like, we have to say Skrilla?

[D]

That might be offensive to many people.

[B]

I'm asking.

[E]

I don't know. All right, next question.

[B]

No more of the S word.

[E]

Yeah. Before we get knocked off YouTube, what does Taylor Swift pledge allegiance to in her new song the Fate of Ophelia? And for Michael, if you don't know, Ophelia is an unpopular character in a very popular play.

[B]

Oh, thanks for informing me.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

He doesn't know that.

[B]

No.

[D]

Can we give multiple answers?

[E]

Yeah. I'm going to give you a, B, C, and D. So the first option is she pledge allegiance to the land, the sea and the sky. B, your pants, your feels, my guy. C, your hands, your team, your vibe. D, the American flag.

[B]

This is what Ophelia pledges allegiance to.

[E]

This is what Taylor pledges allegiance to in her song the Fate of Ophelia.

[D]

I watched your reaction to the music video. You should know this.

[B]

I should. I know, but I forgot. It's been like two days since I saw it.

[D]

That was the only song.

[B]

Can you read the answers again? I'm honored.

[E]

Is it the land, the sea and the sky, your pants, your feels, my guy, your hands, your team, your vibe or the American flag?

[B]

It should be the American flag is what it should be.

[D]

It's not she hates America.

[B]

It's definitely. Can I move the purr to a different answer?

[E]

You can.

[B]

Thank you.

[E]

I will allow it.

[B]

The American flag.

[E]

I can't get the trill man.

[D]

Thanks. I hate it.

[B]

You got to be a little bit Mediterranean for that.

[E]

You know, I was trying to give Michael hints with that because he does it on all of his shows now just to make people uncomfortable.

[B]

All right, this is. It's getting weird, man.

[E]

It's getting weird. All right.

[B]

Weird episode. I think it's the delay.

[E]

Graymore, what do you have?

[D]

I put C because I know my Taylor Swift.

[E]

It's an A.

[B]

It's not. It is.

[E]

It is not A. And you are getting completely destroyed. It is C. Your hands, your team, your vibes. Travis Kelce. Your team, your vibe, your hands.

[B]

Hold on, hold on. I'm pulling up the lyrics. What's that song called? Ophelia.

[D]

I'm a Swiftie. Like, I'm kind of a hater, but I'm a studied hater.

[B]

Fate of Ophelia lyrics.

[E]

The play is called Hamlet, and out of the guy who Shakespeare wrote it.

[B]

Fade of Ophelia lyrics. It just came out. Keep it 100. On the land, the sea, the sky Pledge allegiance to your hands, your team, your vibes. I was so confident.

[E]

She is a Swiftie.

[D]

That's so cringy. Why did the Chiefs get a shout out on the song? What do they have to do with anything?

[B]

Is that a Chiefs thing?

[D]

She's talking about his team.

[E]

Yeah. Travis Kelce plays for the Chiefs.

[B]

Oh, man.

[E]

I. Yeah, they have a losing record since you released the song, though.

[B]

Coincidence?

[D]

They didn't ask to be involved in this.

[E]

No. All right, number 11. Which actress is rumored to be shifting towards maximalist glam in 2025? Is it a, Zendaya? B, Florence Pugh. C, Sabrina Carpenter, D, Emma Stone.

[B]

Is Sabrina Carpenter an actress?

[D]

Yes. She started out as an actress on Disney.

[B]

Interesting.

[E]

Name that show.

[D]

For a bonus point.

[B]

Hannah Montana.

[D]

I could do it.

[E]

It's Girl Meets World, right?

[D]

It's not Hannah Montana.

[B]

It's not Hannah Montana. Bluey. Was it Bluey? Who's the first one you said?

[E]

Zendaya. Florence Pugh. No, that's.

[B]

Zendaya is how it's pronounced.

[E]

Zendaya. Florence Pugh. Sabrina Carpenter, Hannah Stone.

[D]

Maximalist. Maximalist.

[E]

Y' all are both really into fashions. I figured this would be a real nail biter here.

[B]

Yeah. Going. It's not going to be Hermione. She's, like, gone very feminist. Right. So it's going to be. I don't know.

[D]

She wasn't on the list.

[E]

Maximalist plan. I don't know what that is.

[B]

Hermione's on the list. Right? Didn't you Say Emma Watson.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

No, you said Emma Stone, right?

[E]

Oh, yeah. Emma Stone.

[B]

Oh, Emma Stone.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, Emma Stone. I don't know. I'm.

[D]

Is that a smiley face?

[E]

This has been the most educational piece of content that Michael Knowles has produced in 2025.

[B]

Without question.

[E]

We're learning so much. Hold on.

[D]

Is this a portrait?

[B]

Sabrina Carpenter.

[E]

It's Sabrina Carpenter.

[D]

Let's go. No.

[E]

Let's go.

[B]

It's not Emma Stone. What are you, a boomer?

[D]

Off of Emma Stone's Vogue cover? She was in the COVID of the September issue.

[B]

She's very pretty. She's very beautiful. But no, she not. She's not glam. We need my girl Sabrina for the glam.

[D]

Yeah, I guess not. Yeah, but I'm torture. It could have been anybody.

[B]

That could. That could have been Zendaya. Or Zendaya is Mr. David.

[D]

That could have been me.

[B]

That could have. That could have. I should have saved yours. I should have had a separate board.

[E]

Speaking of women celebrities, which female celebrity has the most husbands? A, Drew Barrymore. B, Kim Kardashian. C, Scarlett Johansson. D, Jennifer Lopez. Which celebrity has had the most husbands?

[D]

JLO has had a lot of engagements, but I don't remember how many of them actually culminated in a marriage. Hmm.

[E]

We'll do closest without going over first.

[D]

Are we doing a portrait again?

[B]

Wait.

[E]

No, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

[B]

Closest. Yeah.

[E]

Michael. Stressed out. Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

All right. What do you have, Barry?

[D]

I put jlo.

[B]

I said Halle Berry.

[D]

She's been engaged, like, seven times, right?

[E]

You put Halle Berry on Halle Berry.

[B]

Sally Berry.

[E]

It's uncanny.

[B]

She had that short haircut for a while. Remember when she was kissing the guy from the Pianist? Remember Adrian Brody? You don't remember that?

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Anyway, that's why I did the short hair.

[E]

The correct answer is JLo at 4. All the rest have been married three times.

[D]

I really know my stuff.

[B]

I need to fact check, but I.

[D]

Just thought if you've been engaged, like, seven times, like JLo, at least some of them actually ended in a marriage.

[E]

I wonder how many times. Yeah, she's been engaged.

[B]

But Halle Berry.

[D]

It's a lot.

[B]

Halle Berry was married to David Justice. I remember that. New York Yankee. Yeah. Eric Benet and Olivier Martinez. But she had other partners. Gabriel, Aubrey, and Van Hunt. But they didn't get married.

[D]

Kim kind of takes the. She takes the prize for the shortest marriage, though. Remember she had a basketball player. Long marriage. Chris Humphries. Yeah.

[E]

All right, next question. Bad Bunny was just announced as the Super Bowl. Halftime show performer. Which of the following is one of his songs? Is it A, Senoriti, B, Ducati, C, Mama Siti, or D, Margariti? I'm gonna say this. Southern sponsors.

[B]

This is like. Remember in the 2000s when rappers would be like. Like shizzle, varizzle, whatever. That's what it sounds like. But the Mexican version. Okay, so let's see.

[E]

One of these is real.

[D]

One of these day.

[E]

Yeah, one of these is real. And one of these has 1.5 million views on YouTube.

[D]

I definitely can't spell the one that I'm going to put as my answer, so I think it's the most realistic.

[E]

Senor Reidy, Dakiti, Mamaciti, Margariti. Which one of those is real?

[B]

I got it.

[E]

What do you got?

[B]

Tecate. It's Tecate.

[D]

I don't remember which one that was, but I put B. Y' all are both correct.

[B]

Yeah, let's go.

[D]

Was it the same one? Okay. It sounded the hardest to spell and pronounce, so that was my guess.

[B]

Margariti was, too.

[D]

I don't listen to Bad Bunny.

[B]

Yeah, no.

[E]

What percentage of adults have had at least one romantic or intimate relationship with an AI system? Closest without going over with.

[B]

And we're defining adult as 18 plus.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

This is pop culture, okay?

[E]

It's modern relationships.

[D]

They say they have or that they would have.

[E]

These have already occurred. Apparently at least one romantic or intimate relationship with an AI system.

[B]

Like they do weird porn stuff with it.

[E]

Couldn't tell you.

[B]

You couldn't tell me? Yeah.

[E]

All right.

[B]

Yeah. I don't know.

[E]

Close this without going over.

[B]

Remember the guilty fleeth when none pursueth Mr. Davies?

[E]

Like 1.5 million.

[D]

Wait, are you looking for a percent.

[E]

Or a number percent percent?

[B]

Just a couple of percent. Just a couple of percent. Don't worry.

[E]

Six, seven, you know.

[B]

Six, seven, couple percent.

[D]

All right. I have a doomer answer. It's quite high, Michael.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And this is a doomer answer for me. 1%, I would say 1% of American adults, which is a shocking number of people, apparently.

[D]

Mary Morgan, because.

[B]

Do you think people are close?

[D]

Is that closer?

[E]

I think, apparently you're underestimating yourself. I think you must be like a basket of roses. Cause the real doomer answer is 28%. 28%.

[B]

Oh, that's fake.

[E]

No, multiple articles. We're talking about this. We were looking up this morning. No, 28%.

[B]

I mean, whatever you figure. Okay, so it's guys. How many guys watch porn? Adult guys. Gotta be 80% or something. At least 70. Percent. And then if the idea is this is just like, new porn, so then you're like, 70% of guys, but that's still. Yeah, that takes you to, like, 30% of the country. Wow. Crazy.

[D]

And I saw a different survey that said, like, something like 45% responded that they would have a relationship with some sort of AI system. And I'm guessing about, like, half of them would actually do it if the opportunity arose. Yeah. This is our future.

[E]

It's very doomer.

[B]

I've long thought once they're not going.

[D]

To create new humans.

[B]

Well, yeah. Well, that's true. I always thought once they figure out AI and robots and then porn immediately affects any new technology, so they'll basically make the AI porn robot sex slaves. At that point, the human race will go extinct because there'll be no more children.

[D]

Yeah. And it's interesting that Elon Musk is kvetching all the time about the birth rate decline, and yet he is encouraging men to take up AI girlfriends with Grok. Yeah, that's quite ironic.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

He doesn't make them kind of anime and weird, though, so maybe he's just trying to, like, throw them off. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, they are weirdly sexy, though. Isn't that weird?

[E]

Speaking of sexy, Olivia Rodrigo had beef with an artist over their shared ex, Joshua Bassett. Who was this person? Is it Sabrina Carpenter, Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande, or Doja Cat, who also dated this guy, Joshua Bassett?

[D]

Doja Cat. I know this one.

[E]

That was that for a stumbled segue. What's the lore?

[D]

It's the lore in one of Olivia's songs that was viral on TikTok. I hated it.

[E]

What's nice is we're not even gonna have to read Michael's complex process when he reveals this. It's so uncanny. You wanna have to say.

[D]

We'Re getting a.

[B]

Hold on.

[D]

Are we getting a torso this time?

[B]

Maybe? Don't hold on.

[D]

I'm scared.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[E]

No.

[B]

All right. There we go. And. Yeah. Is Doja cat.

[D]

No, that would be, like, predatory. It was Sabrina.

[E]

It is Sabrina.

[B]

Sabrina. Do you ever see in Tom and Jerry. In Tom and Jerry. This was from, like, the 60s. I was playing them for my kids. They have this really sexy cat. This, like, hot.

[D]

I remember.

[B]

You know the one that's like, mm, mm. And anyway, that's what I pictured. Doja Cat.

[D]

Yeah. And she has, like, red lipstick on and everything. Yeah, yeah. Olivia's song says, like, you're probably with that blonde girl and she's talking about Sabrina.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

But it was all over a guy that looks 12. Anyway, how old is Sabrina Joshua Bassett? I'm sure he's a nice guy. Sabrina. I think Sabrina is 25.

[B]

Okay, now not then. How old is doja cat?

[D]

Little older than Olivia Rodrigo.

[B]

How old's doja cat?

[D]

She's the older woman. Doja cat. Let me guess. I think that doja cat is in her 30s. I could be wrong.

[B]

So do you know that would make her 210 years old if she were doja dog.

[D]

In dog years.

[E]

Is that math correct? Did you just, like, nail that one?

[B]

I think so.

[D]

I think so. I have no idea. I'm not gonna fact check you on that.

[B]

Thank you.

[E]

Michael. This is almost as doomer as the AI relationship question, but you are losing 94 than Mary Morgan right now.

[B]

Six' seven is what that is.

[E]

Hey, there's still time to come back. All right, here we go. Next up, a popular Internet theory claims which male music artist is married to a woman who stalked him since childhood based on viral photos of her appearing in the background of his life for years. Is it A kid Laroi. B. Justin Bieber. C. Bryson Tiller, D. Hi, Dullesan.

[B]

Hmm.

[D]

Michael knows this.

[B]

I actually, I have this one pretty well done.

[E]

He's down the rabbit hole in this one. This was kind of a layup, this one.

[D]

This story was huge.

[E]

Yeah, he's a big kid Laroi fan. All right, what do you have?

[B]

I said E for Emmanuel Macron. I hope that doesn't cost us a billion dollars.

[E]

Correct answer is B. Justin Bieber. It is Justin Bieber.

[D]

Justin Bieber.

[B]

Wait, she stalked Mrs. Bieber? Stalked him?

[D]

Allegedly.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

Allegedly. Allegedly.

[B]

She's very pretty.

[D]

For years, like, while she was. She started stalking him. Allegedly when she was, like, 12 years old. That's dedication. And all the women saw this story, and they were like, I don't know. It's kind of crazy, but I respect it. Like, maybe we need to normalize female aggression.

[B]

Yeah, it's true. I could have used a little more aggressiveness from the ladies during some of my single periods. Come up.

[D]

Hey, Michael, in these topsy turvy times, what are we to do? When men don't ask us out, we have to be the pursuers, which means we have to stalk them.

[E]

Speaking of aggressive women, this female artist was labeled a homewrecker after allegedly causing a divorce by sleeping with her married co star, a new dad, and his wife's high school sweetheart. She later dropped the song. Yes. And who is she? Vid Cardi B. Doja Cat. Selena Gomez or Ariana Grande.

[D]

These are like, two. Is it just easy for me because I talk about this stuff?

[B]

I got. I even. I got this one.

[E]

He's writing confidently.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

These were huge stories. It's stage four. Ho. Ariana Grande.

[B]

Ariana Grande. Not Ariana Pequeno, but Ariana Grande. That's how I wrote that.

[E]

You are both correct. Now the current score is 11 5, which does make Mary Morgan the victor. However, this is a gentleman's game, and it's never too late to come back. So if you're feeling frisky, you can risk it all on an all or nothing bonus question for the last round. Mary Morgan.

[B]

Mary Morgan. You want to do it? Are you going to risk it all?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes. Yes. Oh, let's go.

[E]

We had to just build her confidence in those last questions.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

No, this is going to. This is going to rig it in Michael's favor.

[B]

I know it better. Rig it in my favor. Let's go.

[D]

What is it, you dirty riggers?

[E]

Yeah, it's Rigas.

[B]

It's for us. No, for you, not for. I'm the rigger.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

That's my word.

[E]

All right. He is an expert in this. In 2025, OnlyFans top earners include Bella Thorne, Iggy Azalea, and Bhad Bhabie. And it was topped by Sophie Rain. How much did Sophie Rain reportedly earn in one year? Closest without going over.

[B]

Wow, man. Some people have it all. You know, if Bhad Bhabie can make all this money on Onlyfans and then headline the super bowl the following year, it's just an amazing.

[E]

How much did Sophie Rain have the number?

[B]

Sophie Rain is the top one on onlyfans. I don't know. I've heard crazy numbers for, like, OnlyFans General, even though most of them make $3. Yeah.

[D]

She might be lying. We never know.

[B]

Hold on.

[D]

And they're certainly lying to the government.

[B]

You're telling me a prostitute would lie?

[E]

Hold on.

[B]

There's no way. I don't believe it.

[D]

You know, this Sophie Rain girl is the one that got into a feud with Bonnie Blue because she was like, you're tarnishing the reputation of sex workers everywhere, Bonnie.

[B]

Right? That's right.

[D]

Some of us are in it because it's empowering and beautiful, and you're just in it for the spectacle, Just in.

[B]

It for love of the game. You know, money's only.

[D]

Everyone's a freak until Bonnie Blue pulls up.

[B]

Yeah, it is crazy. Cause you see this gal who appears to have been hollowed out by very, very evil forces. And she seems to be almost 700 years old with this wizened face. And then you find out she's like 23 or something. Like, oh, man, lady, she's not turning around.

[D]

She is 100% lying about her age. That's totally not true. And I think that she's probably just clinically a psychopath. She's like dark tetrad.

[B]

Yeah, could be. She never returned any of my calls back in my single days, you know, not once. I could have been Mr. Blue. You just said she's old. Don't make it weird. You just said she was really old.

[D]

All right, look, I'm just going off of what the media told me.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I always do. Okay, hold on. Sophia Raine. I kind of like that. That's a nice name. I'm gonna.

[D]

I don't know. This is the one that she talks about being Christian a lot.

[B]

Oh, really? Interesting.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

She made the most of anyone.

[E]

Yeah, Whatever she's doing is working, apparently. All right, 10 seconds closest. Val going over.

[D]

I think I was close.

[E]

All right. Oh, man, the tension. You cut it with a knife. What do you got, Michael?

[B]

I said $36 million.

[D]

Okay, that looks like 136. Is that just the dollar sign?

[B]

That's the dollar sign. I wasted all of it. Drawing little figures of cats and stuff.

[D]

I might have guessed too high, but I feel like I remember it being this high. It's 55 million.

[E]

Well, it looks like there is a new maven of pop culture because it was 43 million.

[B]

Let's go.

[E]

Damn it. So close.

[D]

So rigged.

[B]

Oh, man. I want to thank every degenerate zoomer out there for spending money on an evil and disgusting vice that is corrupting your soul. Because you just let me win a meaningless game. So thank you.

[D]

Damn it. I thought I knew my stuff. You just proved me wrong.

[B]

You.

[D]

Maybe you should take over my job, Michael.

[B]

I've said it. For years, I've been gunning to be just a hip, cool zoomer chick.

[E]

Well, to the victor does go the spoils.

[D]

You can be whatever you want again.

[B]

Yeah. This is great.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Thank you.

[E]

Thank you. Well, Mary Morgan, thank you so much for playing this game. And would you please give Michael a 30 second ad read for why people should tune in and watch the Michael Knowles show?

[D]

You should tune in and watch the Michael Knowles show because he is such a Riz master that the Riz might emanate from the screen and be endowed onto you. And one day you could have as much Riz as. As Michael Knowles.

[B]

It's so beautiful. It was so nice. I. Wow. It's like men want him, women want to be him. This is big. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm honored.

[D]

I want to be him.

[B]

Wait, what? Huh? Hold on. I admire your bravery, Mary Morgan, for going out, risking it all. Sometimes, you know, in love, in culture, you have to take risks. Sometimes they pay off. Sometimes they don't. Mr. Davies, thank you once again for having me on my own show. And I'm happy that I could teach everyone a thing or two.

[E]

Well, there you have it. And if you haven't already, go subscribe to the pop culture crisis on YouTube and follow Mary Morgan and drop a comment with who you want us to have on next and what topic to cover in the next episode of Face.